Working fast food is mocked because... Orange Man Bad! (10-21-2024--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowOctober 21, 202400:29:4227.25 MB

Working fast food is mocked because... Orange Man Bad! (10-21-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so Donald Trump goes and works the Fry Station and then the drive-thru at a McDonald's and outrage ensues for several reasons, but mainly it's because the Orange Man is bad. And here's the thing. I've said this about Donald Trump for several years now, is that Donald Trump's superpower is that he exposes people for hypocrites.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not to say that he doesn't say stupid things or inappropriate things.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Arnold Palmer's manhood, for example. So I'm not making a comparison that he is better or worse or anything. I'm pointing out that by doing what he does and saying what he says, he exposes so many people as hypocrites.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_05]: As not really holding true to a standard that they claim one thing.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when Orange Man says something or does something, they then will flip completely and adopt the opposite position.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, for example, right? Exposed. We all know who they are. It's very obvious now who they are, right?

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I also understand that they're going to put Liz Cheney now. I'm seeing that if Democrats are saying that if they win back the House, they are going to launch another like J6 style kind of investigation.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently, Trump gave an extra chicken nugget to somebody on the drive-thru line. Look to indict him on that.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_05]: But here's an example. The Palmer report. I'm assuming this is some sort of a liberal organization because affiliated with the Democrats, I should say.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_05]: They put out a tweet that said the real proof of Donald Trump's dementia is that he let his handlers do this to him today.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And they got a picture of him wearing the apron. He's got the McDonald's apron, you know, and he's in the drive-thru line.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're like that his handlers let him do this to him today without pushing back about what a humiliating idea it was.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Which why is that humiliating? This reminded me of the story of I believe his name was Alvin.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Alvin. I don't know his real name, but he was on the Cosby show.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_05]: He was one of the daughter's husbands. I think his name was Alvin.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And you remember this video turned up of him or something a couple of years ago where he was working as like a manager or something of a grocery store.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was through this it was told through this lens of, you know, oh, look, famous actor now has to work at a grocery store.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Well. And he came out after like all of this, you know, kind of blew up and.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, first off, why are you shaming a guy who's holding down a job? Right.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no all work has dignity to it.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So. Like, who are you to say that this is not a legit dignified job to have?

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And the same sort of mentality pops up also in the illegal immigration issue where you I just heard it this weekend.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say a bunch of liberal talking heads sitting around a table with their heads talking.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And they say something.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_05]: One of the women says something on the order of, you know, you can't deport all these people.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Who's going to pick your lettuce? Who's going to clean your toilets?

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Who's going to raise your children, basically?

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, this is what you think of these people like this is not that's not a morally superior position to take.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And so when you are actually able to engage with people and this is what Trump does so very well is like he.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know if it's intentional.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I know people that love Trump think that this is all intentional and he's this master, you know, maneuver or.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Or something anyway, you know, playing 72 dimensional chess.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's I think it's actually just something a little bit more fundamental, which is that he represents a little bit of.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I know this is going to I mean, lefties are going to hear this and they're going to guffaw at it.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's a it's it's a level of authenticity that they don't actually have.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think there's probably some psychology behind it for why leftists particularly.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Mock.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: The common man and the authentic, you know, regular Joe experience.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that there is some some there's a psychology behind that.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And there might also be a little bit of the.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Might be a little bit of good versus evil there, a little bit of darkness and light.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm not an expert.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I just know what I see when I see it.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And I see people that are reacting pretty negatively to what has traditionally been a standard thing that politicians do.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_05]: They go out and serve some ice cream.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_05]: They go out and, you know, work at some factory.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_05]: They.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, Kamala Harris, she parachuted into Charlotte a couple of weeks ago.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Remember hard hit from Helene disaster zone Charlotte.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And she put a couple of tubes of toothpaste into plastic bags and they had her do like four or five of these things.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Got the photo, got the video.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And then she was gone.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that is that any different than what Trump did here?

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_05]: No, what really angers them here is that he's trolling Kamala Harris.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a troll job.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Not only is it the, you know, hey, I'm the every man.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it it it actually is a very smart play because you've got the photo op.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You've got the hey, look, he's authentic.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, hey, look, he interacts with the common person.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a humanization kind of operation, too.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But also it's trolling her because she claims to have worked at McDonald's.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_05]: She uses her stint at McDonald's as a way to prove her middle class or working class.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Not really sure.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But then again, she isn't either her roots where she's just like us, despite the fact that she's the daughter of like two college professors.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That grew up in, you know, very ritzy parts of of town.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Mainly in Canada.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But she's just like us.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And so him doing this draws attention to the McDonald's part of her bio, which has not been confirmed.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody can confirm this.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yet when Trump says she never worked there, the media reports it as if that's a lie.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And their proof of him lying is that she said she did, which says everything you need to know.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_05]: About the state of modern fact checking.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And journalism, for that matter, I guess.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Here was what was this?

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: The Washington Post.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Trump's visit to McDonald's was not in support of the minimum wage effort.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's what they wanted it to be about, because they threw questions at him about why don't you raise the minimum wage?

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_05]: The minimum wage is like seven dollars and twenty five cents.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And these McDonald's workers are making between 13 and 15 to start.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is obviously not an issue for them here because they're making double, more than double the minimum wage.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the real minimum wage is zero.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Not sure who needs to hear that, but now you have.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Instead, Trump focused on promoting his unsubstantiated claim that Vice President Kamala Harris did not work at the fast food chain in college.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: The unsubstantiated claim.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Her claim is also unsubstantiated.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: See how that works?

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Because she hasn't proven it.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_05]: She has no pay stubs.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's weird that you would have that.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But there isn't anybody that's like, oh yeah, I worked with her.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: The store has no records.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Corporate has no records.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is weird, but it's been a long time.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But she hasn't proven that.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I say, fry off.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Only way to settle it.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Have her go to a McDonald's.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Have Trump go to a McDonald's.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And let's see who can stack more boxes of fries in, say, five minutes.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: A contest.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Because if she worked the fry station, it's like riding a bicycle.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all going to come back.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And if she knows about the shimmy shake thing there with the fry funnel, then she's going to have him hands down.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: She will beat him.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And that will prove to me, or maybe make a burger.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Show me that you remember how the burger system works.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I could still make a Whopper.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I could still do it.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, maybe just a hamburger or cheeseburger.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the Whopper's got a lot of extra on top of it.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And maybe they've changed their system.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I doubt it.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and by the way, people also say that, oh, they spray paint the lines on the patties at Burger.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: That is not true, people.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_05]: The lines come from the rack that the burger sits on as it goes through the conveyor belt.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The conveyor belt is a wire rack.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And it runs over the flames.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what gives it the thin grill marks.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a legitimately flame broiled burger.

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[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Kevin Dalton.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't know what he does.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But he's on Twitter.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And he says,

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_05]: To the 4.7 million fast food workers in the United States,

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_05]: this is apparently what Democrats think of you.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is, they called this a humiliating idea for Donald Trump to be working at a fast food joint.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just, I don't, I don't get, like you guys, you don't have to, you don't have to be this way.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, just because you have these really nasty thoughts.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And I know that when you think negative and nasty thoughts, it just becomes more and more easy to do that.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, but you got to break yourself out of that.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Like this doesn't make you cool.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And let me head over to the phones.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get to Brian.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the program.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Brian.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Brian?

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hey, Pete.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Hearing you talk about Burger King earlier, really brought up, stirred up some memories with me.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I used to work at a pizza place when I was 16, and I gained the system.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm trying to clear my conscience here.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have my buddies call up right before closing and order a pizza, and they would not pick it up.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And then if I would close up the shop, the manager would say, do you want the pizza?

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: No one ever came and picked it up.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I would go to a party with a free pizza in hand.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Say 10 Hail Marys and buy a free pizza for a homeless shelter.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll do.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Go and send no more, Brian.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_05]: That is a common practice.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I have heard it.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I may even know somebody who did it.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It was not me.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It was not me.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But that was, look, back in the, I remember when I worked at that Burger King, that was

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the first time that I had worked at a restaurant where I had to pay for my own food.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Because when I, my first job was at an Italian pizzeria and restaurant in the back in the kitchen

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: as a first dishwasher, then cook.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I never made the pies up front.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But, but yeah, you, you would get free dinner.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_05]: We would eat.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You got a slice of pizza for dinner or whatever.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And these are the big pieces.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_05]: This is New York, you know.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Alex, welcome to the program.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Alex.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, good morning.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Pete.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just want to follow up on this McDonald's thing with Trump.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I kind of turned on maybe middle, middle of your discussion about it.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But he actually didn't work.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they, they did shut down the place and there was a whole photo op.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make sure.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see if that's something you brought up.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about Tom McCamill doing, you know, whatever, but, but it's all, both of them are

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: doing a Photoshop.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like it's a photo op.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a, it's called photo op.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I did.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause the Washington post headline was like, this is stage managed photo op.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And yes, of course it is.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_05]: They all are.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:08] Okay.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But also I just want to also, if you don't mind, just piggyback on sort of just Trump.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm by no means a Trump supporter to be honest with you.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But, and there is, I just don't see him as the leader.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you look at it, you know, when he was elected first time around, he had this

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: cabinet bunch of generals.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember him calling it, look at my generals.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Also proud, like a, like a father about his children.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course now they all campaign against him, which I don't see any of the Biden, for

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: example, cabinet campaigning against Biden or Harris for that matter, uh, here, uh, again,

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: campaigning against them where we have 30 cabinets or whatever the numbers of, uh, cabinets

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: member for Trump campaign and actively against them.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, when, when she brought it up in the, during debate, uh, his answer was, well, they're all

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: bad.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I fired them because we're all the bad.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I worked in a sort of like a, you know, business environment, a lot of things that we,

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, management and whatnot, a lot of sort of things that people kind of put emphasis

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: on as being a leader, you know, accepting some liability for things that you do.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And he ultimately hired them.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So he either hired them, they were good and they decided to quit, or of course they were

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: bad and he fired them.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But at some point, you know, when you have like 25, 30 people, whatever it is that actively

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: telling everybody who will listen, that this guy is unhinged, he's not right for this job.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, his answer is like, well, they're all bad at some point.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't the box stops with him because he's the one who hired them in the first place.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So they either, he, he, he's a bad judge of character because he keeps hiring all these

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: people who, you know, bad quote unquote, or maybe he's just not good at what he does.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And these people actually can see that these are the people who were in the office with him

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: making decisions and situation room.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're actively campaigning against him.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what would you take on that?

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I will tell you after the news, Alex, I got to run.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm way late, but I wanted you to make your point.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I let Alex go long because, you know, he was on a roll and he was asking a question.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So a couple of things to answer the question.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, first off, I don't, uh, I don't, uh, um, abide by false dichotomy arguments.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you present me with a false dichotomy, I'm usually going to pick a third option because

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't believe those are the only two choices, right?

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So when Alex, uh, offered me up this, this, you know, either or proposition, I tend to

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_05]: reject those, uh, just in general.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And I reject this one as well.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, multiple things can be true.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Donald Trump can be bad at hiring P or Donald Trump.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yes, he can be bad at hiring people.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_05]: He can also have been bad at hiring those people for those particular jobs.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: He also could have been getting manipulated in hiring people because this was what I talked

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_05]: about this at the time.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, one of the problems that Jimmy Carter had was that he was an outsider.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_05]: He was a governor.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody, he, he didn't, he wasn't of Washington.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: People didn't owe him any favors, but he didn't know them any favors.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And that became difficult, you know, cause you don't know, uh, who your allies are and

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: that sort of thing.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, there is people call it the deep state.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_05]: You can call it the bureaucracy, the military industrial complex, the establishment, right?

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Liz Cheney is a perfect, uh, encapsulation of this, uh, of this type of person.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_05]: They're like her deal is war, war in Ukraine, right?

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Keep the military, uh, defense contractors fed, right?

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And the way you do that is by blowing up a whole bunch of stuff someplace so they can

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: make more of it.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And so there is a natural, there, there is an incentive there.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And there are people that, uh, that are happy to, to go along with that incentive.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_05]: This is why defense industry contractors, uh, they set up operations in as many congressional

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: districts and as many States as possible.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_05]: They can make one product, but have it built in three or four different congressional districts,

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_05]: preferably of powerful lawmakers, right?

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_05]: That's job security.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And so then when, you know, you get enough people that have come through that system

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and there is a system here, right?

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And Donald Trump does not know how to play within that system.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_05]: He says stuff and, and he doesn't know any better.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't say that out loud.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't know that.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't care maybe, but he doesn't know that.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And I suspect that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Now the, so that's one part of that either or that I was presented with, right?

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_05]: The other side of it is that all of the people that he fired or quit that are now campaigning

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: against him, that they are proof that he is not the right fit for that office.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, part of that could be true too.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not my first pick.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never voted for the guy, right?

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not going to find me defending Donald Trump on indefensible things.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_05]: His comments about Arnold Palmer, completely inappropriate and unnecessary.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It does not endear him to me.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Does it cost him votes?

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_05]: No, but this is where we are.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I recognize where we are and the American public doesn't care about that.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And I suspect most people that don't like Donald Trump already, they don't care either.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Them wanting to point it out is an attempt to make me not like Donald Trump.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Or for you to now not vote for Donald Trump.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And so that's, it's a form of gaslighting and I, I recognize it.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I don't, I just don't play along with it.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's all.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So it can be a little bit of all of the above and the things that I mentioned as well.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_05]: There were people that he hired that were not good hires.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_05]: That's on him.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Buck stops at him.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Does that mean that he shouldn't be elected president again?

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_05]: If my choice is Kamala Harris and I've outlined my explanation for why I intend to vote for

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Trump this time.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not about him and it's not about her.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It's about the media in that they covered up for Joe Biden's mental decline and they are

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_05]: still covering for her.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And she is still covering up his mental decline.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Still to this day, she refuses to say that he's in cognitive decline.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And the media allows her to do that.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: They will not hold her accountable.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_05]: They will hold Trump accountable in excess.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: The guy's already been impeached twice.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I know that they are going to act as a check on the presidency.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I know they won't if she's president.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's how I got there.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me get to a couple more calls here.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Joe, welcome to the show.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, hey.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Joe.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_03]: How are you?

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I'm good.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_03]: What's up?

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me premise my whole point by saying, if you remember the Reagan quote, trust, but

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_05]: verify.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So here I am.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the ads on the TV and I see a couple of Trump ads that say, uh, Carmela

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_03]: didn't do this or Carmela said she's going to increase taxes and everything that he posts

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: on TV or in ads, he sources.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's standard.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's standard, Joe.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_05]: That's, that's standard.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, Pete.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, look at Carmela's, uh, ads.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She never sources.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I have gotten mailers from her as well to my house and they have the footnotes too.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Pete, do me a favor.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Please look at the ads on TV.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Never.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But Joe, I don't want to.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to watch her ads.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I already hear enough of them here.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to watch more.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But, but see, they're there.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: They're there for other people to see.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, you know, and, and.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, all right.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, okay.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I get the point.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you may have meant, made this point, uh, maybe last week or something.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it wasn't you.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody else had raised this.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It is a, this is a standard thing.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It is a citation of where you got that information.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's used to prove what you're saying is correct, right?

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Like here's the footnote for this thing.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And if you follow the footnotes, sometimes you find out that it's actually coming from like

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_05]: a left wing, uh, like, you know, website or something.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So sometimes they're just footnoted to make people believe that you've actually a bibliography

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_05]: or something for your, for your ad.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And when in fact, you're just citing some other leftist or right wing publication.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, I, yeah, I, I don't, I don't look at any of that stuff.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't campaign ads, like anything that is spent trying to win my vote, whether it's

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_05]: a campaign ad on TV, on radio, or a mailer is a waste of your money.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I don't look at any of it.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_05]: If I even look at it, I laugh at them and I throw them away.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Or I pull them for show prep.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they mean nothing to me.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why people still pay money on that stuff.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Tony, welcome to the program.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Tony.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_05]: What's up, my brother?

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: How are you, man?

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I'm good.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_05]: What's up?

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to be really good.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm at the other side of the coin.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm a Latino, uh, uh, you know, Trump supporter.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Alex was talking about, he's not fee for the president.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but listen, we got four years of these two people, right?

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: These two guys.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What did they do to the country?

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I just want my daughter to be state.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I, my conviction, what I believe.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to man go on a, on a girl bathroom and, and, and, you know, and pretend to be a woman.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe in abortion, right?

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think life is, is, is, is beautiful given by God.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's, it's not always about Trump and about, you know, uh, the Democrats.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's about my belief.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So people sometimes confuse things, right?

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm very conservative, but I also open mind.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: If you think you're a unicorn, go knock yourself out.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Go be a unicorn.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But don't come and tell me how to raise my kid and want to believe what you believe.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: If I don't believe it, I'm bad.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe in that.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, freedom of speech, freedom of faith, whatever you want to say, it's beautiful when

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you go both ways.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I don't agree with Alex.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, with all, with all respect, I'm not, I don't want to be nasty, but, uh, I mean,

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: we got people here for four years, uh, I pray for him, Biden, I pray for him, brother.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I pray for him, but he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he didn't do anything.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think you're raising a good point.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we're at, we're actually, we are facing an election of basically two incumbents, right?

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got two people who are running, uh, and even when it was Biden, but they basically

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_05]: both have track records of four years in office.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So we get to see what do we want?

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Do we want the last four years or do we want the prior four years?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that, yeah, I think a lot of people are looking at it like that.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Tony, I do appreciate the call, sir.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks so much.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me get Ralph on as well.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Ralph.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_05]: What's up, man?

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Pete.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, you know, I'd like to, uh, point, counterpoint Alex and everything.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I just, uh, basically what was better under Biden, uh, about his policies and, and what

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: did he like about his policies that, uh, enhanced his life, you know, made him feel better about

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: the direction of the country and, you know, just things in every, you know, in general of

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: what they've done.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And then how did he feel when the coup de coup happened?

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And, and, you know, I mean, it's, you know, these guys, basically I found out they're habitual

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: liars, but basically, I mean, just like the Marxist said, you tell a lie enough, people

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: are going to start believing it.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what's happened in this country.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And our educational system has failed our children.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not okay for only 20 and 30 and 40% people reading at grade level.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That's unacceptable.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and I think, yeah, also to Alex's point, if we are to look at simply endorsements of,

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: uh, you know, you know, different people, um, that you would normally expect to see the

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_05]: endorsements, you know, like all of these people that were, you know, working for Trump and

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_05]: now they're against him, that kind of thing.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, well then what of the people on the other side that now have flipped and have come over

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: for Trump?

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we've seen enough examples from, you know, Elon Musk to, uh, Tulsi Gabbard,

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: We're so, so this is what I, I keep bringing people back to this, that this is a realignment

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_05]: of the parties.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It's taking a while.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not something that happens overnight.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to take several election cycles, which means, you know, 15, 20 years.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what we're seeing.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And so people are now starting to resort themselves and people are going to have to examine what

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_05]: it is that they believe in and which party represents them on that rough.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate the call.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that when people are looking at this election cycle from a personal perspective,

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_05]: like what am I, uh, going to benefit most from right.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_05]: As a voter, there are people that are, are, are approaching it from that perspective.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And they, and I know a lot of Trump supporters are making that argument because that is to

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_05]: their benefit.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That is a winning argument to be made.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, if you start talking about, you know, reproductive health, freedom, whatever, then

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_05]: that's a, that's an argument Democrats are going to use.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if there's a critical mass to get them enough votes to get there, but you

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_05]: know, we're going to find out.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: That'll do it for this episode.

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