This episode is presented by Create A Video – After top staffers from Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson's campaign jumped ship this weekend, I expect even more stories to come out about him and his operation.
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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right so JD events makes his appearance in Charlotte yesterday takes five questions from reporters
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Three of the five are all about lieutenant governor Mark Robinson and
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether or not JD events will play the game of defend and dis-savow or as I call it D&D
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And as I've said before that if you dis-savow,
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You are free to do so by the way. If you want to dis-savow any candidate you go right ahead and do it.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not judging that. I'm just pointing out that you don't achieve any kind of
[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolution or redemption in the eyes of those asking the questions.
[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a game to make you play to advance the story
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let me take a brief detour in journalism
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: In broadcast land and in print land
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a story
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And the story if it as they say in the biz has legs in other words, it will keep moving
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: After just the one day story right like for example
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: A story about
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala Harris has been knocking up the babysitter and
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know having the abortion on that like what that's a one day story no
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Follow up on that when necessary no legs on that. It's just
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: When it's like it's probably not even a story. You probably don't even need to report it
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but if for some reason it squeaks through and the story gets on the air or gets into the
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Newspaper then it's over right
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Contrast that with like literally any sex related story about a Republican that story that's got legs that thing is going to
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and so the defendant dis-savow game is very useful
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In advancing that story okay
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You're always wanting to keep the story going because once especially if it's a
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: A sex related story a purion kind of a salacious story then
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The reporters that are usually covering you know very boring topics in the world of politics like budgets and policy and
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to talk about that. Let's talk about the sex stuff right
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a more interesting story to tell the newsroom
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Pubas the managers and producers
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They will allocate more resources
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: To a reporter going out to go cover
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Salacious story versus some budget story. Now, yes the budget story might actually impact you in a way greater
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Manor right like affecting everything that you could now purchase because more of your money is being taxed
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And that sort of thing but who cares right we're talking about some sex here people come on
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to devote and we're going to send a camera person with you
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even a producer. We're going to send a live truck like we're going to we're going to do it all up
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless of course you're working for some newsrooms where they don't have that stuff and they just hand you the reporter a camera
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And send you out to go do it all by yourself, right? Okay
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's story
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's got legs that is celacious. It's more quote newsworthy to the people in the newsroom who most newsrooms are generally populated by
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: People who get their news from the same sources they come from similar backgrounds
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They have similar political outlooks
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So they have kind of a tunnel vision going on about what is news
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Versus a more ideologically diverse newsroom
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Who will say oh well what about this other angle to that story or what about this other story that you guys haven't even heard of
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: This may come as a surprise to you, but I myself played that role in some newsrooms
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I would point out things that people in the newsroom may not have been aware of
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, we're not aware of because they did not consume the same news sources that I did and did get leads that I did
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why you want different people from different perspectives
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: For example, I've got I've got sent a message today from a former colleague
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was asking hey what's the deal with this constitutional amendment that's on the North Carolina ballot this year and it's about restricting
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Voting to people who like a mending the state constitution to refer to to make sure that only citizens can vote
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And it is being
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The lie is being spread that this somehow or another would preclude naturalized citizens from voting and that is not true
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It literally says in the referendum citizen
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a naturalized citizen is a citizen so they get to vote
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's closing a loophole in the state constitution anyway
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So like I am aware of this story
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Now maybe somebody else in the newsroom would not be aware of that story because they didn't see that kind of
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Post going around on social media because their friend group on their social media counts as different
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so when the story's got legs it keeps moving and you get to keep updating it
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've talked about this before you end up with sort of boilerplate language
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That lives on
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: In every story once a story is told like the first time or two day or two
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Certain language gets adopted and and tweaked and edited down is it's kind of like a distillation process where you have a very you know large story
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to explain it all in the first day
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And then
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: When the story keeps moving and you keep doing new episodes basically of this original story
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to condense down the overarching story into a liner to a sentence or two
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And so you develop a shorthand and you edit it down for as few words as possible
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that becomes the template that you literally will copy and paste and put into every other story that lives on
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Every follow up story will have that same boilerplate language
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's called a narrative
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a calcified narrative
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It has firmed up it has taken hold it is
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It is what will now be the description of the story in every follow up story, narrative crafting
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we have seen
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You're watching it right now with the Mark Robinson story, right?
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all happening in real time now
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So one of the ways that you keep the story moving is you keep asking other Republicans defend or dissuade defend and dissuade
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And when anybody takes the bait
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You then run that as the story
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you implement the calcified narrative, right?
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You start off with Mark Robinson, blah, blah, blah, blah
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you plug in the latest update to the story
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you block out, you know, I'm Pete Cowenard, WBG news like that
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very easy way, it's an easy story to turn
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: At this point you got a lot of b-roll for TV
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of the footage of Mark Robinson walking around, shaking hands
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Post and stuff on the internet
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But like you got a lot of images and stuff
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You got the graphics all done up
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Always keep in mind that you have an incentive structure
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In TV news, in radio news, in newspaper, online news, all of it
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The incentive is you have to feed the beast, you got to create content
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to make slot, you got to fill the news hole, whatever you want to call it
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to produce content
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And so this will do
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what JD events is coming to town
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We got our scandal with Mark Robinson, let me ask him about that, boom, boom, plug it in, done
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Because does it really matter?
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But honestly, from a newsworthy standpoint, does it matter if JD events still endorses Mark Robinson or doesn't?
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if they were to pull their endorsement of Mark Robinson, if they were to be like, you know what?
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't believe them anymore, we're sending our endorsement
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so like what is the widespread practical impact of that?
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You think people are just hanging on JD events as every word to vote for or against Mark Robinson?
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They know nothing about the story, they can't make their own determination, something like that
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why we've been going over these details of the story as they come out
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: As more and more of the legs walk in this story
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And the media keep turning it out
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And the problem that Robinson now is going to have, aside from obviously the original story
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that he lost a whole bunch of his senior campaign aids
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're going to talk
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The defectors are going to start spilling the beans on what really is true
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll do it anonymously, of course, their incentive structure is that they don't want to be known as the rat
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to jeopardize future work with other candidates
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So they'll feed these stories because there's part of this is that people love having a story, a secret
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then handing it off to somebody in the media
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's not, you know, just on background don't identify me
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But people get a rush
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Trust me, I people come to me all the time and they get a rush from
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Knowing something
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a secret, I know this thing
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, I'm so important, I know this thing and nobody else knows
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just can't contain my soul, I have to tell somebody
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they tell somebody in the media
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what benefit other than that, it gets them
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I've never really understood like what happens to the mindset after that
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But I know that mindset, I have experienced it, you know, I've seen it first hand
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of the people that were in the campaign are now going to start talking
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that they have said is going to be a pretty big problem for Mark Robinson
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[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Alrighty, so part of the problem Mark Robinson is now going to be facing is that with the exodus of so many of his top leaders
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to talk, right?
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be now other stories that come out that are completely unrelated to the stories that we have heard
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Things are going to come out now because they are no longer invested in his success
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And why did all of these people leave?
[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like at first it was just the four and then it turned out to be eight and then WRAL was saying there was like scores of people
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But they never said who so I don't know how many people actually have left the campaign
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this might be why
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: This might be why a bunch of people left
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that according to WRAL's Paul Spect
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is quoting quote people directly familiar with the matter which again
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Tells me virtually nothing about who the people are so I don't know how credible these sources are
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: However, what they have, what they are reporting is that
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Robinson rejected multiple offers
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: From his own supporters
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And next him with IT specialists to help him investigate
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The origins of the comments and on the porn websites and stuff
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: His alleged rejection of the offers so doubt among some staff members
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: This is according to the people directly familiar with the matter again
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that means
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like directly familiar so in other words, it's one of them is that what you're telling me?
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Which that's what I believe by the way
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I would if I had to guess I would say it's probably one of the top people that quit
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why they're saying was the reason why they quit which makes sense right
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: If your his campaign manager or advisor or something
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And this all breaks and you know you have a big meeting of the leadership team
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's up there saying this is all fabricated
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's AI, this is garbage, it's never happened
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are not my words or our words or whatever
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying all of that
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well then you're like well you know what we actually have some people
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They are IT forensic experts whatever
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And they have offered to help us track this thing down and blow this thing wide open
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you are innocent and you want to clear your name
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you say yes?
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I would
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he says no
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're the leadership team, you're like well why not
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh we need to focus on just you know winning this election
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we can't focus on winning the election now
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because this thing is so scandalous we have to address it
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And if we have a way to get at it we have some experts who have expressed interest in helping us
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Blow this thing open
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it, let's blow it open
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You realize how devastating that would be for CNN
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And for Josh Stein's campaign if you were able to track it back to them
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you could prove this was all just manufactured then do it right? Why wouldn't you?
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he says no
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Then everyone's like well I guess it's true. He doesn't he doesn't want us investigating it
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's going to confirm that it's true and so we're out
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the story that
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_01]: The media is reporting that I assume is coming from the people that have left him
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And the campaign
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That is no bueno as they say
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[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: The latest episode now in the Robinson affair is that Mark Robinson's alleged rejection of offers to help him investigate
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: How the
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: How the digital footprint was created that he says is a lie he didn't write any of that stuff and post any of that stuff you know over a decade ago not his words he didn't do it
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: There were people that made their services available to him and he rejected that and according to WRAL citing people directly familiar with the matter Robinson's rejection
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So doubt among some staff members his response in the wake of the report likely played a role in the exodus of some staff members they said at least eight campaign staff members quit the campaign on Sunday including Robinson's campaign manager and finance director
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The people spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared professional retribution details of Robinson's declination
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Were shared with WRAL on the same day the candidate told reporters that he's forming a team to help him refute the scene and report
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He also said he's working to rebuild his campaign staff just you know five weeks ahead of the election Robinson said during a meet and greet with voters in Wilkes County that he is considering quote everything up to legal
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Council to take CNN to task for what they have done to us we are going after them he added quote we are not going to let CNN throw us off our mission arm mission is to win this race and then there's another report
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: In political
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: About more connections with user names email addresses IP addresses
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: On other websites other websites like fling dating website another dating website called adult friend finder another one called mate one and another one called lords of porno
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The breach data also revealed that the password that robins because this this was done by the way by the southern poverty law center so of course you know left this organization
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they comb through the data sets that were that were stolen and then you know it's a hack in leak campaign hack in leak operation against these websites
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They stole the data they posted them up onto the dark web or wherever and then people have them and so now they can cross reference all of this information with these different accounts
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to tell nothing you do online is private nothing. Okay, so if you you don't want to like never for example never put anything into an email that you wouldn't want to see projected on a screen at your trial
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: If you live by that you will be better off
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus your emails will be a lot nicer. You know I recommend emojis lots of emojis
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The breach data revealed that the password of robins and email address used to register with new dafferca was nearly identical to a password used by three separate accounts registered under his wife's email address on non pornographic websites
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Including that fifth which is a now retired hip hop mix tape website
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So is it possible that these these were his wife's accounts?
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Craig welcome to the program hello Craig. Hey, what's up?
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to make a point about this Mark Robbins thing but really really quick one of my real quick point I heard about on the news during the commercial
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: About how Sarah vibes getting turned and do apartments restaurants and the retail when
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte so big I mean it's grown once a fast has got got freaking of
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on down there is this going to be 90 plus percent apartments one to put lay in a convenience store and I call that retail and the restaurants
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen I have not seen their plans yet their site plans yet, but they say they're developing it over a decade
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So or decades I think maybe like 10 20 years
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have you objective to make any money
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh, I may must not want to make any money if they're going to take that long to do it
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty no I mean I'm I got a pretty
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a pretty good sense that the owners of of Charlotte pipe and foundry know how to make a profit
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not talking about them talking about the people they sold the land to well they're doing it anyway Charlotte pipe and you found me is doing it
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. Oh, they're doing it. Well that's a different book in the front. Yeah, as my understanding that there that this is their plan
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. Well, they're already rich enough. They can track your feet
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you would know better than they I guess yes
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why everybody I mean I know auto wild but this whole thing with politicians say scandals ever since Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Who gives it crap anymore? I mean the the standards been set just because Mark Robinson is a red blooding mail who I mean pretty dang chubby
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So he probably doesn't work too well with women given their high-forgive misin picking nature
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not surprised he's on some more websites out there
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But what I mean Trump cheating on whoever with his wife with stormy Clinton doing that. I mean here about Obama and the bath houses
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just that we even care anymore like if you're going to base your vote
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Whether you're going to vote for a communist the stopian future
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Versus what we all hope to be a capitalist utopia at some point you're going to let something like that and fluids your vote
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It really makes me think that letting everybody in this country vote because there is citizen is a bad idea
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So a couple things number one
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The the people who are promoting the story promote the story not because they care about the sexual
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Deviancy
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But they are hoping that you care
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's why that yeah, I mean that's why and because
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: If the sex scandal is about a Democrat the Democrats don't really care
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll defend their own candidates and they'll say you shouldn't judge them based on their you know their preferences and whatever
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you know the the party of family values and and you know Christian morality and all of that they are making an appeal to your sense of
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Rejecting hypocrisy
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's been that's been the standard for decades
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But I've been I've been arguing that the charge of a hypocrisy doesn't carry any purchase any longer. Nobody cares
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody cares about a hypocrisy because everybody understands that they're voting for hypocrites so once now we have devalued that
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's just okay, why you know what is the the political philosophy or their ability to get stuff done
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the candidates that come forward that more closely align with me on those. That's what I'm basing my vote on and the personal is completely out of the question
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct, and that's what I think that's what I do and I don't care about someone cheating on her wife if they're used politically aligned with mine
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Versus somebody who is so often left field. I don't care if they're an angel. I'm not going to vote for all right. So during the clip where you were you old enough to vote during the Clinton era
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I wasn't okay. So during the Clinton era people were making the argument on the right that the way you behave in your personal life is
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Representative of how you behave in your public life and so you should not separate the two
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Democrats were arguing that you should separate the two that your ability to do your job doesn't have anything to do with the kinds of behavior you engage in
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You should not be in the public life. You should not be in the public life. You should not be in the public life.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that that argument one and it seems like you agree with the Democrats are given from the 90s.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I see while the Republicans made it at the time it was just a game of politics as always if it had been the other way around they might have been making the Democrats want to view it at that time
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And I understand like you're voting for hypocrites if you're voting for a politician who's not hypocrit. I don't I think you're
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, then Clinton came along and it changed the the standard. Because abortion rights like that was withdraw that same thing with Pacwin anyway
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Craig I appreciate the call
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I was a kid my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died my mom and my dad and all of us really helped take care of them as he got progressively worse
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: 40 years ago there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Things are different today because of the workers so many people including the Alzheimer's Association of Western North Carolina
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great organization with awesome people. They've got huge hearts. I've been a supporter for like 25 years
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: This cause means a lot to me. I participate in the annual walk to end Alzheimer's and I am leading a Charlotte team this year
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called Pete's Pack you can sign up and join the team and walk with me. It's on October 19th at truest field in uptown sign up at alz dot org slash walk and then just look for my team
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Pete's Pack and there's also a link in the podcast description here. Also I'm going to be MCing the Gastonia walk on October 5th so make a team and join us or make a donation to help me hit my goal
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I would really appreciate it. There are a bunch of other walks around the Carolinas and you can go to alz dot org for all of the dates and locations
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We are closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's and if you can help us get there we would really appreciate it
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Will you come walk with me for a different future for families for more time for treatments. This is why I walk
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I got some messages here regarding the Robinson affair
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Seth says why is this sort of thing a scandal when it's a Republican but a trans person at the White House flesh and their new boobs under the leftist Democrats is just fine. This is not here then a squirrel turtle.
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well squirrel turtle. Again as I said from the very beginning on all of this stuff it's not that they care about the sexual deviancy
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's that they think you care and they want to get you demoralized so you don't vote for mark Robinson they want you to be embarrassed so you don't vote for mark Robinson
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Better still you don't show up in vote
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Right if you're a hardcore you know gonna vote red up and down the ballot Republicans only they would very much prefer you stay home
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: See because that's not suppression that's just democracy say so they want to demoralize you so you do not participate
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You do not tell your friends vote for mark Robinson right you don't have what a governor Tim walls who by the way is a liar
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you say you know talk to people have the hard conversations in the produce section of the grocery store about vote and for common like they don't want you to have those conversations
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to embarrass you so as soon as you start mentioning mark Robinson people roll their eyes snicker at you. Oh my gosh. He's a purve all that right
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's part of the operation going on here
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If Robinson were a Democrat do you think there would be a hint of racism from the left and the media but I repeat myself that's a that's a good question on somebody else said if I was Robinson
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have played the race card immediately right and he did he did try to do that right he did talk about the the lynching this is it like with the clearance Thomas the high tech lynching
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know back then they use group now they're using cable. That's what he said in that CNN interview so
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this this story would look in and be reported a lot differently if Robinson was a Democrat but that's Democrat privilege in our society. That's the that's the deep privilege
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: All right that'll do it for this episode
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