Update on the "Zizian" trans vegan cult (02-10-2025--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowFebruary 10, 202500:31:5429.25 MB

Update on the "Zizian" trans vegan cult (02-10-2025--Hour3)

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[00:00:30] So, do you remember the Zizians? The Ziz cult? I talked about these guys about a week ago when sort of the news broke about this connection between all of these murders. They got like six bodies with this little, I don't even, trans AI vegan cult. That's, that's their thing.

[00:01:00] AI vegan transgender cult linked to six killings. In a piece over at the New Hampshire Journal, nhjournal.com, the suspect in the death of Vermont Customs and Border Patrol agent David C. Maland pleaded not guilty on Friday.

[00:01:19] The latest plot point in a story involving a bizarre AI vegan transgender cult. Okay, now the cult is not AI. All right. They're just, they're just anti-AI. They like, or kind of, or they started out pro AI and then they kind of fell out with AI. I don't even know, but it's a cult. They're crazy.

[00:01:43] So it's kind of difficult to discern the actual, like ideology, except like they've got their cult leader. Always got to have that guy. He's always the best, you know, example in the cult. Everybody strives to be like him. And I think he gets to have sex with all the cult members. That's pretty standard. I mean, I haven't seen any reporting to that effect, but I'm kind of thinking that's one of the, that's one of the perks, you know, because otherwise why even start the cult?

[00:02:12] So the, um, the woman, I think Teresa Youngbloot, Youngbloot, 21 years old, appeared in the U.S. District Court of Vermont Friday in Burlington for her arraignment on charges of using a deadly weapon to assault a law enforcement officer.

[00:02:34] A grand jury handed up indictments against Youngbloot the day before. She has not yet been charged with directly causing Milan's death. A reputed member of the Ziz cult, Youngbloot's alleged murder of Milan is just the latest violent incident in the story of the fringe sect with its belief in an AI monster bent on torturing all non-vegans.

[00:03:03] Okay. So they, they think there's an AI monster coming and it's going to torture all non-vegans, but they themselves are vegans. So I'm not sure. Like, is that a sort of a, a preemptive veganism that you're doing? Are you, did you become vegan to avoid the torture by the AI monster?

[00:03:28] Or were you vegan before? And then it just so happened that you stumbled upon this, this cult that was like, Hey, you're vegan. You won't get tortured. You should join us. Or something. The leader of this Ziz cult or the Zizians, as they are referred to by people who have had contact with them.

[00:03:54] Um, it is named after the leader of the Zizians who goes by the name of Ziz. Coincidentally enough, but his real name is Jack La Sota. La Sota. He is now, so I, I double checked this and I believe the New Hampshire journal is incorrect when they report that he is currently behind bars in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. I don't think that's accurate.

[00:04:22] I think he is still on the loose, but I've not been able to confirm this. He did get arrested after he had faked his death, but he did get rearrested, but then they let him out again. And I think he's still on, I think he's still on the loose. So he is suspected of being a part of a 2022 double murder in Pennsylvania, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, Richard and Rita Zacco.

[00:04:52] They are the parents of Michelle Zacco, who was also a member of the cult. Who she is also, by the way, uh, suspected of her parents murder. Zacco, Michelle Zacco, who identifies as trans non-binary. And I have thought about that term trans non-binary.

[00:05:21] And I just keep coming to dead ends. I don't understand. I just don't understand what that one is. Trans non-binary. So you're, you're transing from something to, to nothing. Is that the idea? It's neither. I feel like I just go around and around in circles on it. Anyway.

[00:05:50] Um, Zacco has not been seen since the January 20th shooting. Investigators have linked the guns that were recovered up in Vermont with the murder of the, uh, the customs and border patrol agent, David Milan. The guns that were used in that murder were purchased by Michelle Zacco. And she had apparently bought them in Vermont.

[00:06:15] She also owns a small piece of land in Vermont near the Canadian border. And what this, uh, this cult would do is set up their box cars or box trucks. I should say. They would go out and buy these box trucks. And I did figure out where they got the money. It came from young blue. Teresa young blue. She was apparently like a math whiz. I think it was young blue. Let me see. Hang on.

[00:06:44] Uh, I got three different stories here. And she was like a math whiz and yeah. And so she, um, came from Germany and then, uh, got hired on. She, uh, like some, uh, uh, I forget what kind it's like a trading firm or something like a wall street trading firm using like quantitative formulas and all this other stuff. So she was like super, super into math, really, really smart.

[00:07:13] She won like a national award in Germany for her math prowess. And then she comes to America and she gets this high paying job. She was pulling in $500,000 a year. Okay. So she was making bank, but decided to abandon all of that work and go be part of a trans vegan cult. So as one does.

[00:07:37] So Ziz, who is the guy Jack Lasota, is from Alaska. He went to Silicon Valley to be part of the tech industry and he became part of an online AI rationalist community where young tech workers pontificated on complicated thought experiments, half formed philosophy.

[00:08:05] Soon he formed a community of like-minded vegans who would submit to his sleep deprivation techniques, use LSD, and who could be pushed into adopting or exploring transgender identities.

[00:08:23] At the heart of Lasota's, quote, faith is the belief in a coming AI superpower, this AI monster, right? This super being that will punish everybody who was not trying to help create that AI monster. Like, which does sound kind of like AI, right?

[00:08:53] I mean, like, that's such an AI thing to do. Like, now that I'm here, why didn't you help me get here sooner? I'm going to kill all of y'all. So, like, that's their, that's their, this AI super being. So, just for the record, in case AI goes back and scrapes this, I welcome our AI overlords. I love you guys. I just want that on the record. Because if AI does become the monster, the superpower, it's going to be able to grab every single thing everybody has ever said and then use it against us, right?

[00:09:22] It will also, according to Ziz, it's going to punish everybody that eats animals in a remarkably coincidental philosophy similar to the cult leader's own philosophy of not eating animals, right? Isn't that, what a coincidence that the AI monster wants to murder all the humans because they did not help it come into being and also because they eat animals. Unlike Ziz, who will survive.

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[00:11:16] Like they see it coming and they're like, we can't stop it, it's going to be a monster that coincidentally will not kill us because we're vegan or something. I mean, it's a cult, so they're crazy. So at one point, oh, hang on a second. This is New Hampshire Journal, nhjournal.com.

[00:11:40] Like the Manson family trying to instigate a race war to bring about Helter Skelter, Lesota, the leader, goes by the name Ziz, hence the name Zizians, reportedly tried to push his group into further and further acts of violence, as cult leaders do. At one point, Lesota faked his own death to avoid law enforcement. You'll recall, and I covered this like a week ago when all of this first started coming out,

[00:12:07] they got, you know, these cult members are accused of attacking an 80-year-old landlord whose property they were living on, then he tried to get them off the property, so they attempted to murder him with a samurai sword. He shot them, killing one of them and wounding the other. They then came back and murdered him like a day or two before he was set to testify against the one that survived the first attack. So they ended up killing him. Curtis Lind was his name.

[00:12:40] And so there's the first two. You have the other two that are in Pennsylvania, the parents of one of the cult members. They're dead. Now you have the Border Patrol agent up in Vermont. He's dead. FBI agents were also in Chapel Hill last week. This is what we talked about last week was that they had been tied to a property, an Airbnb, actually two Airbnbs, in Chapel Hill.

[00:13:08] Our pal AP Dillon over at moretothestory.com. It's her sub stack that she does. You should subscribe. I do. FBI agents were in Chapel Hill this past week investigating an Airbnb connection to the vegan trans terror cult known as Ziz that was involved in the shooting murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent last month. On Wednesday, about 50 federal agents as well as sheriff's deputies were seen searching.

[00:13:37] Well, now, wait a minute. Why are the sheriffs participating with federal law enforcement? Right? Isn't that the reason you guys don't want to participate in any? You don't want to help the feds on anything when it comes to ICE related matters. Anyway, they were searching properties near Bell Circle and Woodbridge Drive for about a seven hour period. This was on Wednesday.

[00:14:04] Residents in the area told local media outlets that loud bangs were heard while officials searched the area. Law enforcement did not say what those sounds were due to, but they could have been, you know, detonations of suspicious devices or booby traps or something. I don't know. There is a fellow named Andy Ngo, that's N-G-O, and he writes over at his own operation called The Post Millennial, and he has been doing undercover work against Antifa for years.

[00:14:34] And he was the first to make connections between various murders that have occurred around the country following the recent shooting of U.S. Border Patrol agent David Milland in Vermont on January 20th. Millan's murder unveiled a larger network of violence linked to the Zizians, a cult of highly educated trans-vegan rationalists who follow fringe ideology about transhumanism and animal rights.

[00:15:02] Ngo was also the first to report on the Chapel Hill connection. But wait, there's more. NBC News did a massive write-up on the Zizians. And I say massive. I mean, it was like, I don't know, 10 pages long or so. I read it so you don't have to. I am a giver.

[00:15:24] 10 days after the bodies of Richard and Rita Zacco, this was the couple in Pennsylvania whose daughter Michelle, you know, is believed to have killed them along with her fellow cultists. 10 days after their bodies were discovered, Pennsylvania state troopers showed up to a Candlewood Suites motel near the Philadelphia airport

[00:15:52] with a warrant to search the room and the car of the dead couple's daughter, Michelle. One of the troopers later testified in court documents that they were looking for the handgun believed to have been used in the killings. And what they found there. Sorry, that's like total clickbait tease. But still, yeah, we'll tell you what they found there. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do, too.

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[00:17:13] Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. NBC News. So the troopers up in Pennsylvania. They get the the tip that. Michelle Zacco, daughter of the deceased victims at their home, Richard and Rita Zacco.

[00:17:39] They find out she is at a motel, the Candlewood Suites. They show up. They knock on the hotel room door and they took her into custody. And as they're leading her out of the hotel, she calls out. She calls out to the staff at the front desk and tells them. Tell Daniel blank that she is being detained.

[00:18:06] Hey, tell my conspirator, Daniel blank, room 207. So she says that. And lo and behold, the troopers knew who Daniel blank was. They knew who he was because they had previously interviewed him in connection with this very double homicide. So they're like, oh, Daniel blank, you say.

[00:18:36] He's in this hotel, you say. Let us go pay him a visit. And so they go to the door. They knock. Daniel blank answers, but doesn't open it. He refuses to let them in without a search warrant. And so they obtain a search warrant and they come back and they knock again. Nobody responds. So they kick in the door or force it open.

[00:19:05] They probably got a key from the front desk or something. So they open the door and they found blank. And a second person in the bathroom. So they got two dudes in there. All right. So they start telling the person in the bathroom, you know, come on out, whatever. And the person won't move. The person is pretending to be dead. But they're not dead. He's just pretending to be dead.

[00:19:36] This is Ziz, a.k.a. Jack Lasota, who had already pretended to be dead previously. They had like a death notice put in the newspapers and everything. Right. They say the troopers say he did not do anything. He had his eyes closed and he would not speak. He was just laying almost unconscious as if he was dead on the ground. But he was not dead. They they picked him up.

[00:20:06] They dragged him down to the to the jail. He was ultimately charged with obstructing the investigation and disorderly conduct. Lasota continued to play dead even when his mugshot was taken. His mugshot is him with his eyes closed like he's pretending to be dead.

[00:20:28] In June of 2023, though, Lasota was released from custody after posting $10,000 bail. And then this may shock you. He failed to return to court, leading the judge to issue a bench warrant. NBC News, always respecting the pronouns, says her whereabouts are unknown. Not a she, guys. It's a dude, Jack Lasota from Alaska.

[00:20:58] So then there is this thing called the Center for Applied Rationality or the C.A.R. or as I call it, the car. And this organization is where these cult members all found each other. They began the C.A.R. began to organize gatherings in Berkeley, California, because of course. In 2012, they started.

[00:21:25] Its founders were seeking to build a community of so-called rationalists, people who are committed to using mathematical and logical principles to improve the world. Quote. This is from their founder, Anna Salaman. She says, we saw A.I. as something that was really, really important that we needed to get really, really right or it would be really, really bad.

[00:21:57] Really, really? Anyway, we didn't know this at the time, but in hindsight, we were creating conditions for a cult. Oh, yeah. Hindsight is 20-20, Ms. Rationalist. They had brought together a large group of mostly young people who were open to big ideas about saving humanity. So loaded with hubris.

[00:22:23] But some of them, Salaman now believes, were especially vulnerable to somebody who might try to manipulate them. Lesota did not come off as a threat when staff members first met her. Again, this is NBC News respecting the pronouns of the psychopath.

[00:22:42] So when they first met Lesota, Lesota did not strike them as a threat until a couple years later during a month-long retreat in 2018. Who the hell has time to go to a month-long retreat? A month? How do you get that time off from work? Okay. Well, they're not working. Okay. That's my bad.

[00:23:07] But when Lesota began at this retreat, espousing her belief system, his belief system, with an intensity that unnerved Salaman, the founder of CAR, as well as other staffers. Salaman said, quote, I was viscerally afraid of Lesota in a way I have never been viscerally afraid of anybody. Really, really. I just added the last really, really. Lesota believed that humans have two minds. Ah, here we go.

[00:23:36] The core philosophy. This guy believes that people have two minds. I don't know if it's split, like right brain, left brain or something, but you got two minds in that brain. Okay? A left and a right hemisphere. And each hemisphere can be good or evil. Eventually, Lesota came to believe that only very, very few people are double good. Okay?

[00:24:05] So you get the good side of the brain and the bad side of the brain. And only very, very few people are good good. And this is going to shock you. But Lesota is one of the good goods. What are the odds? The one who developed the cult philosophy happens to be the prime example of the thing that you should aspire to be. Man, wouldn't see that coming a mile away.

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[00:25:58] Why is it always everybody else that's screwed? Yeah, that is another hallmark. Like, they know the one true way and they will save you. Everybody else is going to be, you know, negatively impacted. But not them. So Lasota's belief here is that people have these two minds. One's good, one's bad.

[00:26:25] And very, very, very few people have a double good brain. But luckily for Ziz and all of the Zizians, Ziz has a double good brain, as determined by Ziz. Um, Lasota had a blog, apparently, and wrote that each hemisphere of the brain can have separate values and even genders. And they often desire to kill each other. Which should have been the first alarm that this person is crazy. Right? That should have been your first indication.

[00:26:52] That when they're saying that their brain is telling them to kill themselves, or the other half of their brain, or whatever, like, that's a pretty good indication. Lasota also described being targeted by police. Why? Because he would wear Sith-inspired garb. Sith. That is the, those are the bad guys in the Star Wars movies.

[00:27:21] Lasota wrote on her, his blog, Sometimes cops harass me for wearing my religious attire as a Sith. It's not a religion! As a Sith, I'm religiously required to do whatever I want. And, well, that's a convenient religion to have. I'm required to do whatever I want. Wow. Maybe I prejudged this whole Sithism thing.

[00:27:50] And for now, he said that that so happens to include wearing black robes. Over time, Lasota's relationship with the Center for Applied Rationality soured. On November 15, 2019, the Center for Applied Rationality was holding an event in Sonoma County, California. Lasota, then 28 years old, along with three other cultists, showed up wearing robes and Guy Fawkes masks. Because, of course they were, right?

[00:28:17] The Guy Fawkes masks, popularized by the dystopian film V for Vendetta, and later adopted by the leftist hacker group Anonymous. And they proceeded to block the entrance to the grounds. Police were called, and the four were ultimately charged with felony criminal conspiracy and five misdemeanors, including false imprisonment. As the criminal case was still playing out, they hired a lawyer named Jerry Friedman. They sought him out because he was Sith. No, I'm kidding. He was a vegan.

[00:28:47] I guess that was his unique value proposition as a lawyer in a crowded industry. Like, that's how I stand out. I'm the vegan lawyer. Oh, okay. Well, with Friedman's help, they filed a federal lawsuit against the retreat facility and Sonoma County deputies, alleging that they were, quote, falsely arrested while protesting, and that Lasota was stripped naked while in custody and mocked for being transgender. And then things really went off the rails. In August of 22, Friedman received word that Lasota was presumed dead

[00:29:16] after falling off a boat in San Francisco Bay. A brief obituary was even published in Lasota's hometown newspaper up in Alaska. Uh, Lasota's lawyer emailed the attorneys for the retreat that they were suing and told them Lasota's dead. Quote, there were no, oh, sorry, there were witnesses and a U.S. Coast Guard search, which Friedman, the lawyer, says he verified with the Coast Guard,

[00:29:44] but no body was ever found. Three months after Lasota's apparent death is when the landlord out in California who was 80 years old at the time, Curtis Lind was his name, three months after Lasota's faked death was when Lind was attacked, stabbed with a samurai sword after being ambushed by a group of people

[00:30:13] whom he had been trying to evict from his property. He survived because he was armed with a firearm. He had a gun and he shot dead one of the attackers and injured another who then was set to testify, as I mentioned earlier. Uh, Curtis was set to, or, uh, the attacker was set to stand trial. Curtis was the star witness. Curtis was set to testify.

[00:30:38] And just days before, uh, he took the stand, he was murdered. And the people that are suspected, this may surprise you, are the same cult members. The trans vegan cult. Two days after he was attacked, one of Lasota's other attorneys got an email from a deputy district attorney saying that Lasota was contacted by police in Vallejo, California this weekend

[00:31:07] and was, quote, on scene alive and well. Two months later, Lasota would be found again, this time by police in Pennsylvania, in the hotel where he pretended to be asleep. Or dead again. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here.

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