UNC-Charlotte administrator is out after viral video (05-30-2025--Hour1)

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[00:00:29] I want to welcome to the program the president of Accuracy in Media, or AIM, Adam Guillette. Am I pronouncing your last name correctly, Adam, first off? Guillette? Oh, but no one does. That's okay. It's Guillette. Oh, so see that? I almost went with the L sound and then I was like, no, no, no, it's probably... All right, I'm sorry. So Guillette is the correct pronunciation. So welcome. Tell us first, what is Accuracy in Media? What is AIM?

[00:00:56] Sure. We're a nonpartisan organization and we use hidden camera investigative journalism and cultural activism to hold bad public policy actors accountable. I like to say we put frowns on the faces of bad people.

[00:01:11] Well, it's funny because it's true. So, all right, and AIM has been around for a while. And in fact, we talked a little bit about your organization and when you guys were rolling the trucks, identifying the anti-Semites all around, was it Harvard? I think you had the big box trucks with the video screens and stuff. That was your operation, right?

[00:01:33] We have visited Harvard. I was there yesterday for commencement. They weren't happy to see me. We've been to dozens of universities going after violent anti-Semites and anti-Americans, people who assault Riley Gaines, people who shout down Trump-appointed judges at Stanford, and of course the anti-Semites.

[00:01:49] If you engage in anti-American anti-Semites on a college campus or if you assault a speaker you don't like, we buy your domain name like amaributler.com, set up a profile page explaining what you've done, put you on the side of our mobile billboard that we send to your campus and occasionally your parents' house, and then we work with search engine optimization experts so that if a future employer or a date Googles you, our domain profile page comes up first.

[00:02:15] A lot of people want to kill me, unfortunately, because of that. But as I said, we make bad people unhappy. So, and I know this, we're going to talk about the UNC Charlotte story because you guys had a video, it went viral, and now the administrator is out at UNC Charlotte. But so, it sounds like what you've explained in that strategy, is that doxing? And if so, is that defensible?

[00:02:44] Question. We've been doxed repeatedly. Me and my family have been doxed repeatedly. People share my social security number and birth date so much on social media that people sign up for credit cards. They do the things in my family. We would never, ever dox anyone. What we've done, for example, is at Harvard, the leaders of, I think it was 22 student organizations, publicly signed a proclamation blaming Israel and America for the October 7th terror attack.

[00:03:11] So, they signed a public proclamation in the student newspaper, in their social media pages. They said, so-and-so is the president of this organization. Well, if you publicly signed a proclamation and if you're posting on your Instagram page that you're the president of the organization, I am more than happy to share that information with as far away an audience as I can find. Because if you're so proud of what you've done, you should thank me for amplifying your message.

[00:03:37] And if you're ashamed of what you've done, you should apologize and we take down your webpage. And I'll tell you what, we've taken down many, many, many webpages because thankfully, at least at Harvard, a lot of people learned the lesson. Interesting. Okay, I was going to ask, did anybody take you up on the offer? That's interesting. All right, so you released this video, this undercover video of the assistant director of leadership and community at UNC Charlotte named Janique Sanders.

[00:04:04] And it sounds like a couple of undercover journalists go in there and they're asking like, hey, we know DEI policy was supposed to be ripped out root and branch based on state law, based on the UNC Board of Governors direction. Is that the case, though? Is that really the case? And she explains, we're still doing it. Don't worry. It's just a rebrand effort, right? So the video gets released, I want to say Wednesday.

[00:04:31] And so I'm curious, just from a timing standpoint, because you showed up on the campus. When did you show up in our fair city to confront Ms. Sanders? That's a great question. I was there a few hours ago. You know, we have hidden camera investigations from about a half a dozen universities in the state of North Carolina. And I had the opportunity to go back and confront three of them across the state. This was the first of a bunch of videos we'll be releasing from your state.

[00:05:00] And unfortunately, it's consistent with what we see across the country. These politicians or trustees pass a ban on DEI or trans boys and girls sports or critical race theory. They pat themselves on the back for a job well done. They virtue signal to their base, to their voters. And then the laws are entirely ignored. The rules from the regents and the trustees, state laws, mean nothing to these radicals. They're almost not worth the paper they're printed on.

[00:05:27] Right. And that gets to the issue here is that these activists don't cease being activists simply because they're being told, hey, don't overtly do this stuff. They're still going to do it, just as Ms. Sanders said, covertly. Right. So how do you go about addressing the Marxist pedagogy that is embedded in the activism teacher model?

[00:05:50] Well, I'll be honest with you. I've spent the last 20 years volunteering for organizations where I train college kids on campuses across the country. I've met with college students in 48 states, which is most of them, several Canadian provinces, Mexico City. And I see this radical stuff everywhere. You know, people used to think, well, the colleges are left wing. Oh, it's beyond that. Really corrupt, irredeemable institutions that we're funding every day with our tax dollars.

[00:06:19] And everyone wants to like their own daughter. They want to root for their football team, basketball team. And I get that. But the unfortunate thing is these are no longer institutions of higher learning or of education. They might do some great work in, you know, the engineering schools or in the sciences. But by and large, these are simply political activist organizations funneling money from the taxpayers to advance their far left ideology. You know, think about what that job title is, the assistant director of leadership and whatever.

[00:06:47] The amount of ridiculous administrative bloat they have in these universities speaks to why the tuition is so incredibly expensive. They don't really add faculty. They don't really add anything that makes the education value better for students. They just spend more money on far left radical administrators because these are essentially left wing activist organizations. Yeah. To that point, UNC Charlotte closed three offices as a result of the policy directives.

[00:07:16] They had three different offices. One Office of Diversity and Inclusion. Another Office of Identity, Equity and Engagement. And then the Office of Academic Diversity and Inclusion. Three different agencies or offices inside the UNC system all for the same thing in this, like you call it, this bloat. And so what I hear from your answer there is that training up college students to basically take out through undercover video operations, I'm assuming,

[00:07:45] to identify these activists that are breaking the rules. And it's like you've got to go one by one through every single institution. Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure when they got rid of those three entities within the university system, I doubt any jobs were lost. You know, the only thing that changed is they had to order new business cards. These are radicals who don't care about the law. As they tell us, we change the job title. We do the exact same work.

[00:08:12] And the real danger is that the politicians won't necessarily act because they oftentimes say there's no problem because if they were to acknowledge there was a problem, they would have to do something about it. And that isn't easy. So it's incredibly incumbent upon the elected officials or upon the voters in North Carolina to say to your politicians, uh-uh, I'm not interested in you merely virtue signaling and passing laws against rain in the hopes that the rain will stop. We actually need to go to the rot of these universities.

[00:08:41] We need to defund them and force them to cut down the administrative bloat. We need to assign people who are actually focused on education, free speech, ideas, instead of just radical ideologues who run these institutions. I was talking to a friend whose kids are in college. They don't even provide on-campus housing after freshman year in one of the schools that her kid was going to because they've over-enrolled.

[00:09:10] They have so many kids that are coming in, they don't even put them in housing anymore. It seems like a racket. I don't know. And so, Ari, finally, you said there are half a dozen other schools that you have already done operations in, and you're going to be releasing stuff on. UNC Charlotte was sort of the first. Are you at liberty to tell us who else may have been scooped up in this operation, or are you holding those cards close to the vest?

[00:09:38] Well, we've got some fun coming from Wilmington, from Western Carolina, from UNC Asheville, others as well, notable universities in the state. And I'll tell you, if we don't have content from a university, it doesn't mean that there's no problem going on there. It means we probably couldn't get past the gatekeeper because these people who were paid to actually talk to prospective students or prospective employees aren't interested or they're working remotely more often than not. You know, I find that as my greatest challenge when I revisit the universities and try to get these people.

[00:10:08] They're never in the office. For the ridiculous six-figure salaried employees who are getting up to this administrative bloat, they're not even there. They're at home. They're working remotely. They're at the coffee shop with a barista talking about Karl Marx. It's utterly insane. And visiting these universities and just trying to meet with them after the fact and finding them impossible to find. You know, the only person I was able to find, of course, at UNC Charlotte was the provost who, when confronted with reality, had no words to say to me

[00:10:36] and told me to get out of the building immediately. Yeah, the look on her face when she realized what was going on was priceless. It was absolutely priceless. It's great work that you're doing, by the way. I mean, UNC Asheville, really, that's like fishing a barrel up there, man. That's like the San Francisco of North Carolina. So, yeah, it would surprise me if you couldn't find somebody up there doing this stuff. But, hey, keep up the good work. The website, by the way, is AIM.org, Accuracy in Media, AIM.org. And Adam Gillette, thanks so much for your time, sir.

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[00:12:32] and make memories that'll last a lifetime. So in case you hadn't heard, we covered it on the newscast yesterday. The video went viral. It attracted attention up at even national levels. UNC Charlotte was the scene of the crime. It's not a crime, but like, that's where it happened. And so, as I mentioned yesterday, we had made it three days

[00:12:57] without any kind of new chapter in a Charlotte corruption-type scandal story, and then we had to reset the clock. But good news is we are now back at, well, okay. So then yesterday we heard that they're going to close down all the businesses at the transit center. So there's that. Okay. Is that the same thing? Okay. All right. We're going to start again starting now. So we're at zero days. Okay. Maybe it's just embarrassing.

[00:13:26] An embarrassing slash corruption slash scandal story, you know? So UNC Charlotte says that it has fired this administrator, or sorry, that they no longer are employed there. Don't know if they got fired. Don't know what's up. AP Dillon reporting over at the North State Journal that a series of posts on X, and I do have the video and the audio, and I've seen it. You can find it as well.

[00:13:55] I'll, you know, put it in my prep sheet. But the audio is not great because it's undercover video. So you really need to see the transcript of it. So I just opted not to even, you know, play the audio and then have to restate everything that she says because a lot of it is like she's whispering, and they're in sort of a room with a lot of people. There's some music in the background. It's undercover video. And so she's, you know, she's speaking in these hushed tones.

[00:14:24] So this way it's not overt. And that is on purpose. It's intentional because she's bragging about how they are dodging the UNC system ban on DEI instruction and programs. The video went viral yesterday, picked up like three and a half million views in less than 24 hours.

[00:14:50] And it got attention from, yeah, here it is. Corey DeAngelis tweeted it out. He's affiliated with AIM as well. He's a pro-voucher guy. And the thread caught the attention of Harmeet Dillon, the assistant attorney general for the U.S. Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division. Gillette responded to her by writing on Twitter that AIM has, quote,

[00:15:17] more videos from half a dozen universities in North Carolina, as well as many more from across the country. Senate leader Phil Berger also took note of the news by writing, DEI, no matter what name or acronym you use, doesn't belong in education. The North Carolina Senate has already taken concrete steps to address this by passing Senate Bill 558, a bill that I filed to eliminate DEI from UNC system schools and community colleges.

[00:15:47] UNC Board of Governors member Woody White responded to the tweet saying, This is disappointing to see. I worked closely with other members of our board and the system office to repeal and replace the DEI policies system-wide back in May of 2024. The UNC System Board of Governors directed each institution to implement the new policy, eliminate spending on DEI, and report compliance by September 1st.

[00:16:15] We expected all institutions to fully comply, but suspected some would stealthily attempt to rearrange job descriptions and shift personnel, but not undertake what was intended, which was a full uprooting of discriminatory practices and divisive doctrines and a return to institutional neutrality.

[00:16:39] White added, quote, I will be asking our system office to make a formal inquiry about the things said in this video and expect that UNC Charlotte will be forthcoming in a response. So then UNC Charlotte put out a statement. Let's see here, I have it. Yeah. So this statement came out yesterday.

[00:17:06] UNC Charlotte is aware of a video circulating on social media that shows an employee making statements that suggest the university is failing to uphold DEI-related policies and laws. The employee's statements were inaccurate. Yeah, I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that. She was talking about what she is doing and what her colleagues are doing.

[00:17:36] So while, yes, you could have changed your policies or whatever, if you still have these activists doing the work, then nothing has really changed. They're still drawing salaries. They're still doing the work. They just went underground. They're, they've, they've burrowed in. And the only way to rip this crap out is to fire these people. That's the only way.

[00:18:05] And to that point, as I said to Adam Gillette, it like, that's, that's what apparently their mission is. Get kids in these schools to do the more of these types of videos, get them on tape and then make the school answer for it. And if what UNC Charlotte has done is any indication, it's to cut the employee loose.

[00:18:30] Like the incentive for the UNC Charlotte administration is to not upset the activists on campus, whether they're paying tuition or drawing a salary. Right. But they also cannot cross the board of governors. Right. They can't cross the state lawmakers.

[00:18:51] So they need people, even if they don't want people to, but they need people to do these types of ops because it's the only way they're going to be able to fire people. That's, I mean, that's what it seems like to me because most of the time they probably don't want to fire the person. So you have to force their, their hand. The employee statements were inaccurate and do not reflect the university's actions.

[00:19:16] UNC Charlotte continues to uphold both the letter and spirit of UNC system policy and all federal and state laws. Let me, of course you're going to say that. I mean, it's not like your Columbia university and you're going to come out and say like, we discriminate or Yale. Like we're racist institutionally, you know, like, okay, well then you don't get any more federal dollars.

[00:19:38] The individual featured in the video had no policymaking authority, no role in compliance matters and was not authorized to speak on these issues. Okay. Let me, let me explain what this means because this is some words smithery right here. The individual featured had no policymaking authority. She never claimed to, and nobody assumed that. Nobody looked at her and thought, oh, this is a person who writes policy. Nothing she said would indicate that.

[00:20:08] So of course that. So you're like, oh, she had no policymaking authority. We don't believe she did. That's the point. The policy says something and she's going around the policy. No role in compliance matters. Again, irrelevant. Nobody assumed that she was in charge of compliance or anything. She's talking about undermining these very things. The compliance and the policy. And then finally, she was not authorized to speak on these issues. Uh, yeah.

[00:20:36] Because if she were authorized, she wouldn't have said what she said. If she knew she was being recorded, she would not have said what she said, which is the whole freaking point here, people. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know, I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do too. And you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why? Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with Ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place.

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[00:22:03] I've not been contacted, but that's like every other day. So regarding, this is from Tim, regarding DEI on college camp high, I think the solution is to pull funding for colleges and universities for at least a year. Shut them down. Send everybody home permanently. And a year later, have those departments re-justify their existence and never re-hire those involved in DEI practices. And if it hurts some people, so be it.

[00:22:32] I honestly think this could be addressed also by making the student loans expungible in bankruptcy and by making the schools offer the loans.

[00:22:59] I think that's the way that you get at some of this stuff. Because if a school is going to hand out diplomas based on instructional standards that will not lead to the person getting a decent job, right? They're not going to then offer those loans. I really believe that a large part of the problem here is that you've got the short-circuiting

[00:23:29] of the market signalization. Same thing as in healthcare. Because there's a third-party paying, then you end up with people asking for services and then the provider conjuring those services up in order to get those customers because the provider is not on the hook for the cost and the customer is offloading the cost to a third party.

[00:24:00] And they think that they have to have this service. And then, oh, I get to choose this ridiculous major that will not lead to any kind of marketable skills. Trust me. I graduated with a degree in Mass Comm. That's funny because it's true. Mike, welcome to the show. Hello, Mike. And you have put that degree to good work for a long, long time. Well, that's true. No apologies needed.

[00:24:30] Where did you go to school? Winthrop. I know you told me that, but I've forgotten. Where's that? Yeah, Winthrop University. Gotcha. Just down the road. Yes. Got it. I am calling because I need, speaking of education, I need to be educated by one of the leading conservative thought people around, and that's you, about the evils of DEI, because this progressive really has never gotten it. You have never gotten what?

[00:24:58] I don't understand why it is so wrong that it needs to be excised or exercised like a demon from the military, from various colleges, from businesses, et cetera. Okay. No, I can tell you. Yeah, no, I can tell you. I can tell you. Well, let me, okay. Well, I mean, if you want to know why conservatives, and I would submit liberals should also, not progressives,

[00:25:28] because progressives I put into a different category from liberals. So if you are a self-identified progressive, then you're in a different category than liberals. So the key here is the oppressor-oppressed lens through which Marxism views all things. And that's on the progressive far left, leftist side of the spectrum. So that's why I... Yeah, go ahead. Can I interrupt for just a second? Yeah, sure. Why not?

[00:26:00] How prevalent... Because I hear you use the term Marxist all the time. Yes. So, and I don't know, frankly, anybody that's calling themselves Marxist. No, why would they? Nor do I know folks, you know, any real politician that you can look at and say, oh, well, he's definitely a Marxist. Yeah. Well, people don't, people don't, Mike, people don't like to use the term Marxist for themselves because Marxism has such negative connotations and associations, rightfully so.

[00:26:30] Rightfully so. See, like a key difference here is like, if you call me a capitalist, I'm going to say, yes, absolutely. I'm a free market capitalist. Absolutely. Whereas when you call a Marxist a Marxist, they don't like being called that because they are ashamed of the hundred million body bags attached to the philosophy. Yeah. So that's why you don't hear that term. But that's so to your original, I'm sure, good faith question on DEI is that it's not

[00:26:56] necessarily like when you use the terms, like, for example, women's health care instead of abortion, right? It's a manipulation of the language. When you say diversity, equity and inclusion, who could be against such a thing? Well, if you are implementing a system under that heading that forces people to view everybody through the oppressor and oppressed lens all the time, you are creating people that

[00:27:23] are then trapped in what's called a victimhood mentality where they see themselves as oppressed by some other. And the other, those kids that are lumped into the category of the other, they then carry guilt and they feel like they're being attacked as well. And this is why Harvard University, its own research shows that when you implement these types of trainings in the workplace or in a school setting, that it actually doesn't

[00:27:50] reduce any of the tensions over these things. It actually exacerbates the problem because you're telling some, you're telling one group of people that they are the oppressed and they are right in all their feelings of oppression. They see slights and victimization where there are none. They ascribe motive to their oppressors. And then you have the other side where they're labeled the oppressor when they are not. And then they get very upset.

[00:28:15] And now they are viewing the other groups as hostile to them where before they were not. Isn't this a situation in which, because I know you have pulled out various instances here and there and has a story from someplace that somebody said something and this person got upset, et cetera. But isn't this a situation, Pete, in which you can pull out various anecdotes and then attempt

[00:28:43] to extrapolate from them? Therefore, the entire system is just like this. And we must fight. I would recommend, Mike, I would recommend that you explore the roots of the DEI movement and such. And you will see the connections because they talk about them. The people who create the pedagogy, the people who create this entire effort, they are very clear and they are out in front.

[00:29:10] You go back 20, 30, 40 years there, you're talking about this stuff. And it is Marxist in its roots. They talk about it. They admit it. They acknowledge it. So, you know, it's not a matter of me pulling examples and anecdotes and then painting with the broad brush. This is the intent. I take them at their word. So I'm glad I could answer that question for you. I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you. Have a great weekend. All right. So spring is here, a time of renewal and celebrations.

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[00:30:34] Get all the details at createavideo.com. Here's a tweet. It's a Pete tweet from Gary who says, Mike's call and question boils down to one thing. Do you believe in equality of opportunity or in equity? They are not the same thing. Equity is not equality. Equity is the opposite. Equity requires you to give victims, quote unquote victims, more and disadvantaging others. Right.

[00:31:01] So this is the, this has always been the case. I've been talking about critical race theory, Gramsci and Marxism. I've been in the long march through the institutions. Right. Right. It's all of the same ball of poop, which comes from Marx, which actually comes from Hegel. So. Right. The philosophy, it, it, it morphs and it changes. And you're seeing a lot of this also now on what people are calling the woke right.

[00:31:32] Same stuff. Same stuff. It changes based on whatever the issue happens to be at the moment. I've been saying this also. James Lindsay said at first, I keep quoting him. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

[00:31:50] And just because progressives or liberals or even people who think of themselves as on the right, just because they don't understand the roots of their philosophy that they are espousing doesn't mean those roots are not there. But they get mad when I point out the roots of their philosophy. But those are the roots. That's where this stuff comes from, whether it was critical race theory.

[00:32:20] Right. Which had its moment. Right. And that's the same thing. Like, well, who could object to sort of the concepts that there was slavery and that was wrong. Right. And that's the game. That's the way that they induce the conversations and then direct it to the outcomes they prefer. Which are Marxists. That's the point. And so you do the privilege walks. And, oh, these are just anecdotes. As Mike said, these are just anecdotes and I'm extrapolating out.

[00:32:50] Yeah, if it was one anecdote, I would agree. If it was five over the course of, you know, a decade, like, okay, this is not widespread. But it's all over the place, man. It's all over the place. What do you think gender queer theory is? Queer theory. What do you think that is? It's of the same root. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

[00:33:19] All of this stuff is simply designed to deconstruct, to tear down the various pillars upon which Western civilization is built in order to usher in the utopia, the better world, the perfect world. And under Hegelian philosophy, you keep tearing down in order to perfect. And in Hegel's view, the perfection was the state. And you keep perfecting.

[00:33:47] And of course, the fatal conceit there is that, as humans, you actually know what the perfect is. That's the fatal conceit. And therefore, the fatal flaw in the entire philosophy. One might even argue, satanically inspired to make people believe that they can know what the perfect is and they can implement it here on Earth. And if you have to murder 100 million people to get there, well, so be it. Sometimes, you know, you got to crack some eggs in order to make an omelet.

[00:34:16] And then eventually, you end up with this perfected utopian society because you kept destroying everything along the way that wasn't the perfect. And of course, like you see, the problem here is not only knowing what is or is not the perfect, but then over the course of time, after you've destroyed so much, you end up in a position where the things you have kept may not actually be perfect any longer. Or may not be perfect with the other pieces that you thought were perfect and you kept. And maybe now they're in conflict.

[00:34:47] It's just chaos. That's that's the end result. It's always the same result. So. That's why I call it Marxist. That's why they called the people who advance these ideas. They consider themselves to be Marxists. They say that have said it. Read their own writings. Steve, welcome to the program. Hello, Steve. Hey, Pete.

[00:35:18] I had to come up with a plan and a way to work around when people like Sean calls in and Mike calls in. My blood pressure starts to boil and I've come up with a solution for myself. And I want to share it with your listeners because it works pretty well. What I've started doing is when they call in, as soon as I hear their voice, I turn the radio off for a minute and a half. And then when I turn it back on, if I hear their voice again, I do it another minute and a half. And then when I turn it back on, usually they're gone by the end. And man, life goes on sweet as before. So that works great.

[00:35:48] And I want to share that with your listeners. Yeah, but that doesn't help me, Steve. I can't do that because I need to hear what they're saying so then I can dismantle it. Okay, but you hear the same things over and over again from these guys. I do. And when are they going to stop? No. Well, never. That's why it's the long march through the institutions. It never stops. Okay, well, I had to do something for self-preservation. Oh, I understand. But they say the same things over and they've got to hit an agenda. They're coming in.

[00:36:17] They're trying to trap you, get you to say something. Sure. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Well, see, so this is the problem, Steve, is that I was a political science minor. And the rule is an old axiom, really, is that you never argue with a political science student because at some point you realize they enjoy it. That's the fact. You do a great job, man. Hang in there. All right, man. I appreciate the call. Yeah, that's the sort of dirty little secret there. I enjoy it.

[00:36:46] I like I because I have confidence in my positions and I feel like I have done enough of the research or the work to understand their arguments. And that's why I when they when I hear their arguments, I'm not surprised by them. And I usually have answers for them. Melinda, welcome to the show. Hi, I just have a question. Sure.

[00:37:14] Can a white Christian heterosexual male ever be considered a DEI hire? Well, maybe in like a if there were to be some sort of a quota hire for like a I don't know. Like an NBA team or something, maybe. Wow. And then my second. Why is that a wow? Do you don't believe that?

[00:37:42] Like if if a if a white guy was not if a white guy was not good enough to make the team, but they put him on the team anyway because he was white. Right. Wouldn't that fit the category that you're describing? I get what you're saying. Right. Because like we all believe that like professional sports, that's a merit based system. Only the best get to be on the team. Right. So like that's what makes sports. I feel like that's what makes sports so great is that it doesn't matter what people's race or religion is or their sexuality.

[00:38:12] None of that stuff matters. The only thing that matters is do they perform the best in their field? And that's who you put on the court or on the field. Right. Right. All right. And my second. I just just had a little thought here. Mm hmm. Considering what the I are, the I kind of like stand for and what we're using it as not that he is, but one could say who believes in that, that then Coakley might be a B.

[00:38:42] I hire if they didn't know any better and didn't know him because he's the only black on air personality on your radio station. So this is a perfect Melinda. This is a perfect example of viewing everything through that lens. It has so corrupted your brain that you think that somehow or another Vince doesn't deserve the spot when he absolutely does. But thanks for the totally good faith questions. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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