Tulsi Gabbard on endorsing Trump and World War 3 (09-04-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back to the show Iraq war veteran and major in the Hawaii Army National Guard former Congresswoman from Hawaii presidential candidate former presidential candidate author of the book for love of country leave the Democrat Party behind Tulsi Gabbard welcome back how are you.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey I'm great Pete thanks much for having me back on certainly so.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So you have endorsed Donald Trump you're making the rounds your you're going on TV shows and radio programs like this and so the first question I got to ask is why why would you why you didn't need all the crap that comes with publicly endorsing Donald Trump right so why would you subject yourself to this.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I love my country it's as simple as that and that's really what's at stake right now in this election is it this is the most important election my life first of all given what's at stake and it's it's so much bigger than maybe the usual traditional choice of.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I pick the Democrat or do I pick the Republican you know which one is is most palatable in this election it's really a choice between freedom versus an increasingly tyrannical government that's undermining our freedoms.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a choice between peace and prosperity versus under Kamala Harris certain World War three which can only lead to nuclear war and greater economic hardship for the American people and quite frankly for the world in that case.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is the context that we the American people have to make this decision between you know there's a lot of people who may or may not agree with Donald undecided people at this point who may or may not agree with Donald Trump on every issue or.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: You know may not like the way that he says things sometimes but what I'm encouraging people to do as I'm traveling across the country and I'm speaking to Americans who really do love our country and who cherish peace and freedom and who are deeply concerned about the direction that we are headed.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We've got to set aside the personalities and the emotions and literally focus on the record and the truth about what is at stake and I give credit to President Trump he's gotten endorsements from two people who ran for president of the Democratic ticket Bobby Kennedy and myself.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Today he just got endorsements from him Walz's family members I think in Nebraska he's bringing together a coalition of people who may not be in agreement on every issue but who share the most important value and cherishing and loving our country and freedom.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So we hear this a lot in elections right that this is the most important election of our lifetime you just said it so is what like why is why is that the case for this one versus previous ones.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad you asked you know never before have we seen such brazen attacks.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: We just saw Mark Zuckerberg himself he came out and admitted what many of us to be new to be true for a long time which is the Harris Biden administration bullied Facebook and meta and Mark Zuckerberg into doing their dirty work of censoring Americans

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: censoring their political opponents censoring those who had the audacity to challenge their policies.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's one of many different examples of how they are weaponized our public institutions to silence their opposition to smear and attack their political opponents.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: In my case most recently they put me on the secret domestic terror watch list after I spoke out against Kamala Harris and how dangerous her policies are.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Never before have we seen the brazen weaponization of our Department of Justice and law enforcement.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: They've not only thrown everything they possibly can at Donald Trump and are continuing to do so.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: They're going after brave whistleblowers in the FBI for example who are exposing how the FBI in some cases has been politicized to be essentially the police arm of the Democrat elite.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They are they have put us in the most dangerous position ever in my lifetime in being closer to the brink of World War Three and nuclear war than ever before.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That will destroy the economic well-being of Americans and people around the world and frankly will result in the destruction of our world.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It is freedom and our ability to live in a peaceful and prosperous future that is on the line.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never said before you know and I know I heard from a lot of politicians is the most important election vote for me right.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never said that before and I have never felt it so viscerally as I do now and I'm my name is not on any ballot what I'm asking Americans to do is to join me in standing up for freedom.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Standing up for our future and defending the fundamental principles that make our country the greatest country in the world.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: So how do you think that you mentioned World War Three and the dangerous policies taking us to war like what are the what are the danger signs that you're seeing that most concern you.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well you see us embroiled in multiple wars in different regions of the world in different continents whether we're talking about what's going on in Europe.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: What is going on in the Middle East and what is going on in the Asia Pacific in each of these regions we're dealing with nuclear armed powers.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And we are we are one spark away from not not just getting into war with one other country but in each of these cases any kind of war would result in multiple countries fighting and a grand geopolitical battle.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That that would bring a cost that would make what we endured over the last 20 years in the post 9 11 era where those of us who served in those wars it will make that feel small in comparison.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You know Ronald Reagan was very prescient and compelling when he said a nuclear war cannot be won and should never be fought.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the signs that we should be extremely concerned by is how you have so-called experts on national security pundits and talking heads on television politicians talking about nuclear war and the use of nuclear weapons as though it's just another kind of missile as though you can fire a nuclear weapon and there won't be a response.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry about it. These are smaller nukes and talking about it completely disconnected from the reality that there is there is no such thing as oh we'll just launch a nuclear weapon and that will be the end of it.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It is their hubris and arrogance that puts us at the greatest risk and why we can't allow that to happen. Why we need strong leadership that will have the places of value on our lives as service members in our lives as Americans to go and exercise diplomacy.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Peace through strength not only means strength through weapons and military systems it is strength through diplomacy that Ronald Reagan demonstrated that JFK demonstrated that other leaders in our time have demonstrated to go and meet with and negotiate peace with people whether they be adversaries or or dictators or working with our friends allies and partners.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So I understand you've also been helping Donald Trump with his debate prep for Kamala Harris is for that when they share the stage so I'm curious like how do you prepare how to help Trump prepared you do you have to like practice speaking in word salads mention a lot of then diagrams and stuff like that like how do you how do you do that.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that the word Venn diagram has come out of my mouth since I was like in middle school or whatever they started teaching us about Venn diagrams.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: No you know I mean President Trump he's out there talking to the American people he's doing rallies he's doing town halls he's doing interviews with both friendly and adversarial media just about every single day so he knows the issues.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He knows the truth about Kamala Harris's record that she's trying to hide from the American people and he is ready to hold her to account on that record which is what she does not want to happen.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Where I can be helpful or try to be helpful is really just in sharing within the experience I had with her on that debate stage.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I was the only one on that debate stage quite frankly in 2020 that actually challenged her on her hypocrisy in her record where she says one thing and does the opposite you know where she talked about or her record reflects how she threw people in jail for smoking marijuana.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But when she was asked about it on a pop culture radio show did you smoke marijuana she laughed about it and said yeah I inhaled and thought it was a big joke.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: President Trump has the opportunity to share the truth with the American people that Kamala Harris does not want them to know which is that she will say and do whatever it takes to get elected and hope that we as voters are too stupid to pay attention to the last three and a half years.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And her policies that have been so harmful and destructive to our country.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So just as an just as a request if you do get to help Donald Trump ask or formulate a question for Harris.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_05]: The question that I would love to know the answer to is when did she know of Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_05]: When did she know it.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's to me it's the most important question because if because she's got to have an answer for it and I don't know what her answer would be when did she realize that he was in decline because you can't say that she couldn't have noticed it so it had to have been when and then that's going to kind of.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Raise the question of why did she come out and tell all of us that he was fine after the special counsel report.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah that's a really great question you know.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Dan a bash on her on the CNN interview that was the most hyped up interview of all time given it was the first time Kamala Harris did an interview with the media and thirty nine days after she was announced as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know she she still seems to claim that President Biden is a okay and there's nothing going on.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah once again trying to lie to the American people and tell us something that is very obviously not true and not reflective reality I think it's a great question.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Tulsi Gabbard major in the Hawaiian as army National Guard former congresswoman presidential candidate author of the book love of country leave the Democrat Party behind thanks again for your time we appreciate it good luck on the on the trail.

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[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: An email from Mike.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Who says the question for Harris about the president losing some of his cognitive abilities is a question we would all like an answer to.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_05]: However, I think our answers are going to be the president shows no decline I don't know what you're talking about so to me Mike says that's like a nothing question haha see no it's not.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And it is not a question that you only ask once.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_05]: When she dodges the the answer with or with her answer right.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You see you ask the question it's not you know is Joe Biden in decline you don't even ask that because it's it is obvious to all and so that is your underlying assumption that it is obvious to all.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And so then the question is when did you first notice his cognitive decline.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And I am sure she will then launch into some BS answer that's not an answer and she'll talk about how working with Joe Biden was greatest honor of her life and you know he was such a mentor he did all these great things and whatever whatever and she'll.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_05]: She'll fill out the time that way and then you hit her again so when did you notice because you didn't answer so when did you notice.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And at some point she has to either deny the underlying assumption right she's going to have to address the assumption which again is obvious to us all and once she denies that.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Then we all know and it is laid bare that the truth does not matter and she is going to lie directly to your face.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: That he's fine there is no decline and Trump can take that to her he could take it to her by just hammering away when did you know when did you know when did you know not did you know because we're assuming you're not an idiot and you saw it like we all saw.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And if she does answer in that way then the follow up would be well then why did he get out.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are you here.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are you on this stage debating me and not Joe Biden on the stage debating me.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I saw it when I was on the debate stage with him I saw he was in cognitive decline.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody has seen it and you're telling me you didn't see it so why are you standing here if he is still fine why are you here.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But she's going to tap dance it's what politicians do.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But those are direct hits and easily transferable into political ads easily.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_05]: It is the most obvious thing.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And now you expose yourself if she says you know there was no cognitive decline now you expose yourself as part of the cover up.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is why she doesn't want to answer the question of when did you know right.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why she doesn't want to answer the question when did you know that he was in cognitive decline because she was part of the cover up and if she answers the question that would that would be an admission that she is she doesn't want to do that.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So by forcing her to say that he's not in decline that then proves also that you are part of the cover up because you're doing it right now.

[00:16:04] Right.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. That's my suggestion. I'm glad I remembered I almost let her go and I was like oh hang on one it pulled a Columbo Oh one last thing.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah if she if she's going to chat with Donald Trump like ask that question.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it'll work we'll see I'll be watching now and if that question comes out of Donald Trump's mouth I will feel I will I will feel like I have made an impact.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_05]: In some tiny tiny way and hopefully it plays out the way I've just laid out but will it.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. I cannot tell the future otherwise I'd be buying lottery tickets ready let me go over and talk to Steve hello Steve welcome to the program.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey how you doing.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. What's up.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to make the comment you know about a year year and I'll give him a year and a half into his presidency we could tell he was in cognitive.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the word decline yeah yeah.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You could tell that so we know their lines but it's not just Kamala.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We have we have a House of Representatives in the whole bucket full of people in Senate that can see this and we let him go.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why he's still president because he is not functioning we know that.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So why is he still in there and nobody on either side is why there are Republicans.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Never saying that but he needs to be going to plot over half the time he's been an office he's been on vacation yeah and we're paying the bill for that yeah you know it's just.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Well now to be fair I would prefer he spend every day on vacation.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I just got back out like to be on the beach again today.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But I just from me he should like if he's on the beach then he's not he's not doing anything crazy you know and.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it is so it keeps us a little bit safer but it does highlight the fact that other people are running the country and who are those people now for what I also understand is that he has not been meeting with even members of his own party.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Democratic members from the legislative branch so yes, he hasn't been doing that so I don't know how much.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not talking about the leadership they obviously knew but the you know the rank and file Democrats I saw one guy forget who it was he said he hadn't he hadn't seen Joe Biden in you know 2 years almost personally and so I don't know how the rank and file.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what otherwise have known this and Democrats they're not watching the media that we watch on the right we have been seeing his decline like you said for years it was not a surprise but for people I mean think about if you're only getting your news from lefty publications mainstream media.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: They they hit all of that so maybe they a lot of people didn't know I find it hard to believe that people in leadership didn't know.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You hear in the of the blurb city had when he especially with that set down with when they had the debate between.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Former President Trump and and and President Biden you could tell yeah he was the host man and I just I don't understand why you got to keep online you know just keep they don't want to remove a beat.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Well that I think they're lying right now is because there you know the you've got whatever the group is whoever makes it up.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_05]: They're enjoying the freedom to govern as they have been doing right so they've got a lot of freedom to enact their will so they don't want to give that up and then I think that the Democrats don't want to have him removed as the first president in history removed under the 25th amendment.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think they they they don't want to do that to him with and some of them don't want to do it because they like him you know at a personal level and they don't want to have them you know kicked out in disgrace well any more of the disgrace than sort of that they just put him through it at the primary level.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well you know is we if we as a living in America if we we don't watch out.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The presidential election is very important but the Senate and the House of Representatives is just as important if not more I agree.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's becoming more and more obvious and I can't believe how people can see this that this is not this is a government entity this is not a government entity.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a government of people.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Because just like in Fort Mill they didn't want the solar panel well they're going to do it whether they want to or not that's not a government for the people.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Most of the people don't want it we don't get it just like the rail the light rail that that Charlotte's proposing you know all mixed up one guy has common sense to say I don't think so nor folk sovereign at a point where they ain't going to get rid of that stuff unless they get pawned it off on Charlotte.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte wants it but anyhow that was mine.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I got you.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Steve you too I appreciate the call.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's a message from Stan who says if Kamala Harris didn't know that Joe Biden was in cognitive decline way back when she was on the debate stage with him during the primaries.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: He says 2015 but I think that would have been 2020 or 2019.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_05]: If she didn't know it then the world should hope she never has her finger on the proverbial button.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah well what was his name we mentioned him the other day.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was Julian Castro.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: One of the twins right and he ran yeah Julie Julian or Julian Castro ran for president he was on that debate stage and he made a comment about Joe Biden not remembering what he had said minutes prior.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he was like he's been banished you hadn't seen that guy ever again he doesn't nobody invites him to the cocktail parties anymore like how dare you mention.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_05]: All right let me go I'll get Tara on here right before the break hello Tara.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey Pete I think you're making great points however I think they're hitting on dumb ears which I call them.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Because people like to look at the pretty package and they think it's a woman she's of you know she's not white that's great.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think we could just bump our heads up against the wall all day long they will not listen.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: No I don't know excited.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I mean there's a look the group of people that were super excited at the DNC and and and about her being the pick you are absolutely correct but always keep in mind that those are like the those are the party faithful those are the activists right they they are super excited.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_05]: That Joe is gone that that she's not Joe Biden and so yes there are going to be people that vote for her because she's a woman of color absolutely.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm not trying to reach those people I'm trying to reach people that are actually persuadable and trying to arm you with some arguments that you could use if you encounter somebody who's actually persuadable so Tara I do appreciate the call.

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[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright so I mentioned this article in the last hour but I tie it back into the Tulsi Gabbard interview that I did at the beginning of this hour.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_05]: She mentioned you know Bobby Kennedy her and Tim Walz's entire extended family apparently in Nebraska they've all endorsed Donald Trump.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And I've said this repeatedly that the parties are in a realignment phase right now the parties are realigning don't know what it's going to look like nobody really does.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And there was a piece called so long social conservatives question mark or so long social conservatives it's by Kayla Barsh it's at national review.com.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And she talks about and this was done back in July right after the RNC and she said rather than standing for traditional Christian values the Republican National Convention underwent a TMZ makeover.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Only fan star Amber Rose took center stage to deliver a MAGA speech a seemingly botoxed Matt Gaetz badgered former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy on the floor.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Hulk Hogan tore his shirt off at the finale this shift however is not merely aesthetic it represents the substance of the new Trump platform on social issues.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_05]: At the RNC abortion issues were absent from the docket and LGBTQ plus activists celebrated the GOP's platform removal of language defining a marriage as a union of one man and one woman.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_05]: The topics of birth control and IVF were not even broached the new RNC stands against the elites more than it stands for any particular principles.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_05]: The problem for the Republican Party now is that the rhetoric of populism does not translate smoothly into executive action any populist candidate faces an unavoidable dilemma.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Upon election he becomes the man he claims to hate the very nature of populism neuters the ability of populist leaders to implement effective solutions once they reach office.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_05]: As it turns out it's much easier to express a litany of frustrations with a government than it is to run one.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_05]: She goes on to say later in the piece here talking about the strange marriage between populism and elite rule underneath National Conservatism's mask of populism National Conservatism or Nat Cons.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_05]: They still want the elites in charge.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But this time they're the ones sitting in the cushy agency jobs.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Self-government ought not to be confused with populism.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Self-government was established in a uniquely successful form by our nation's founders.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Populism is a force that can tend towards good or ill as it has throughout history and across the globe.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_05]: J.D. Vance said in a 2021 speech at the second National Conservative Conference.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: If National Conservatism means anything it means standing for the people in this country who have been screwed over the last 30 to 40 years.

[00:27:19] Right.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: If it stands for if it means anything it means standing for the people who have been screwed over right.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. So then the question is what will actually work to address these frustrations.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_05]: What policies.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: What are you going to do to actually make America work for this population.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Vance said in the New York Times in a piece by Ross Doubt that doubt I never know how to pronounce this guy's name do thought do that doubt that do that anyway.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: He said the people on the left I would say whose politics I'm open to it's the Bernie bros.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh so their policies are what National Conservatives are open to the Bernie bros socialists.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Along with the departure from Reaganite free enterprise Vance and others in the Natcom camp have departed from the pro-life pro-family principles that for years propelled the religious right.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm not I'm not outlining all of this by the way to tell you this is the wrong path or this is the right path.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not I'm not saying that I'm pointing out that this is part of this shuffling that's occurring this realignment that's occurring.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is what was missed by journalism errors that did the hit piece on Mark Robinson.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I they're not they're not plugged into this kind of a debate.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I do think that the that the guys who write the hit pieces on conservatives or Republican candidates do you think that they consume.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Talk radio.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: This kind of me do you think they listen to the show or any of the other shows on WBT do you think they listen to us regularly to get all of the jokes to understand you know when I say the democracy.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You know did they get that do they understand the cone of creativity nobody really does by the way that's what makes it so mysterious.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And why there are no bad answers or suggestions in the cone of creativity but I digress the point is like they don't listen to this stuff they don't read this stuff they don't understand it.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And so they're still fighting a Republican Party that they believe has all has always been calcified around the religious social conservatism.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But now it's shifting.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_05]: She concludes her piece by saying that the issues that have motivated social conservatives for decades have been publicly tossed aside if this is the new Republican Party social conservatives may find themselves in the wilderness for some time to come.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And that is by the way the case with all coalitions that's how it happens that's how it works I have a piece also in the stack of stuff here that Donald Trump there's a growing divide here between the genders.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Men going more towards Trump women going more towards Harris but also men going more towards and towards the right conservatism and women going more towards the left so like this coalition that was built.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_05]: For the Republican Party as well as the coalition on the left for the Democrats right when people don't feel like their voices matter inside the coalition they begin looking at the other side they begin looking for another vehicle to express those wishes.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And if the other side welcomes them now you've got you've got internal friction as to which members of the coalition have superiority in the you know in the tent.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what we're seeing all right that'll do it for this episode thank you so much for listening I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast.

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