Trump's visit to Charlotte (07-24-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:28] All right. So first, let's start with the now resigned, the now former head of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheadle. She's out. And I'm going to ask a similar question that I have been asking about the last time an administration official announced that they were going to be stepping aside Joe Biden. Why?

[00:00:56] Why is Cheadle out? Why did she resign? Am I to believe it was because of the hearing on Capitol Hill that she stonewalled the lawmakers and then somehow or another, she was like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't have done that. And so I'm just embarrassed and I'm shamed. I have to resign. Is that what happened? Why would she have resigned over that? No.

[00:01:22] No, no. Was it like public shaming and embarrassment, social media, mockery or something? Or was it the same reason that Joe Biden resigned? Well, he hasn't stepped aside from the presidency. He's just resigning from the reelection campaign. Why? Internal pressure, right? Internal pressure.

[00:01:45] So the question then is, why was the internal pressure applied, right? As journalists, you're supposed to go ask the people who applied that pressure, why apply the pressure? Might that indicate, I don't know, some sort of information that people would be interested to know, taxpayers, citizens? Why would the Secret Service chief resign?

[00:02:16] She said she wasn't going to. She said she wasn't going to. And then she did. Just like Joe Biden said he wasn't going to drop out of the race. And then he did. Why? Pressure? OK. Well, who pressured him and why? Well, we kind of know who pressured Joe Biden. We're getting those stories.

[00:02:33] Over at the Federalist. The same agency that failed to protect former President Donald Trump from a would-be assassin's bullet is now asking the GOP's presidential candidate to stop holding large outdoor campaign rallies.

[00:02:47] The request from the grossly incompetent, at best, federal agency stinks of election interference and it sounds a lot like a threat.

[00:02:58] The Washington Post first reported last night that the U.S. Secret Service is, quote, encouraging the Trump campaign to halt the large-scale events his supporters have grown accustomed to.

[00:03:11] Which, by the way, have you heard that Donald Trump's going to be in town if he isn't already? He's going to be in town here in Charlotte.

[00:03:18] He's going to be speaking at 6 o'clock and WBT will be carrying that speech live as it happens at 6.

[00:03:24] That will be during the Brett Winterbull show.

[00:03:27] But Brett, ever the eager beaver, he went and talked to Donald Trump ahead of time anyway.

[00:03:33] So you got to have Brett got an interview with Donald Trump.

[00:03:36] So that's pretty cool. He's going to be airing that at 3 o'clock here on WBT.

[00:03:42] But I was listening to some of the discussion about, you know, this rally today.

[00:03:46] By the way, if you are over around the Bojangles Coliseum, you probably don't want to be over there just because the traffic is going to be horrendous.

[00:03:57] OK, for all of the national media folks who are arriving in Charlotte, welcome to the Queen City.

[00:04:03] That's what it's called. You are still in North Carolina.

[00:04:06] Charlotte is located in North Carolina.

[00:04:07] Despite all of the branding, we spent a lot of money doing the campaign Charlotte USA.

[00:04:13] For some reason, we spent all that money to brand ourselves Charlotte USA, but nobody really figured out we were in North Carolina.

[00:04:21] So branding fail. I'm not sure why.

[00:04:24] But you are in North Carolina.

[00:04:26] Charlotte has not moved from like West Virginia or the coast of South Carolina.

[00:04:31] We've always been here. Charlotte's always been right here in the Piedmont.

[00:04:35] It's a banking city.

[00:04:37] Very large, actually.

[00:04:38] It's the second largest banking center outside of New York City.

[00:04:43] That's why we have a lot of the flights that run directly to New York, where you probably just flew in from.

[00:04:49] So welcome to the Queen City.

[00:04:51] By the way, that Bojangles Coliseum, it is named after the famous Bob Dylan song, as I understand.

[00:04:58] I'm just kidding.

[00:04:59] It is not.

[00:05:00] It is not.

[00:05:01] No, it's named after Bojangles.

[00:05:04] Fast food joint.

[00:05:06] Is today fast food day?

[00:05:07] Drive-thru day?

[00:05:08] Did I hear that?

[00:05:08] Or is that yesterday?

[00:05:09] It was drive-thru day.

[00:05:10] Oh, that's right.

[00:05:11] It was yesterday.

[00:05:11] It was official.

[00:05:12] It was national drive-thru day.

[00:05:17] Not as apparently a lot of our residents in the Queen City seem to believe drive-by day.

[00:05:22] That is a different day altogether.

[00:05:24] But people get confused here in the Queen City sometimes.

[00:05:27] So, Bojangles Coliseum, that is one of the oldest geodesic domes in the world.

[00:05:36] You're going to be under one of the first and oldest geodesic domes.

[00:05:43] In fact, when it was built in like 1955, Reverend Billy Graham dedicated the Coliseum.

[00:05:49] Elvis Presley played there.

[00:05:51] But when it was dedicated, when it opened, it was the largest span of a geodesic dome.

[00:05:59] And a geodesic dome is, think, Epcot.

[00:06:02] Right?

[00:06:03] The big round ball with the, like, made of triangles.

[00:06:07] Yeah, Bucky Fuller up at Black Mountain College.

[00:06:10] Now it doesn't exist anymore.

[00:06:12] Buckminster Fuller.

[00:06:14] He patented this idea.

[00:06:15] And he wanted to make, like, these little homes and stuff so you could, like, kind of just drop them into, like, war-torn areas or refugee camps.

[00:06:22] And then you would have, like, a pop-up house.

[00:06:25] Because you could just, like, almost like a tent.

[00:06:27] Just, you know, just flip it out and boom.

[00:06:29] There you go.

[00:06:30] You got a little dome that's made out of triangles.

[00:06:32] And it's based on tension, I think.

[00:06:34] Is that right?

[00:06:34] Tension?

[00:06:35] Not compression.

[00:06:36] Anyway, down a rabbit hole here.

[00:06:38] But the Bojangles Coliseum is one of the oldest geodesic domes in the world.

[00:06:43] And the largest when it was built.

[00:06:44] So there's a little bit of trivia for you as well.

[00:06:48] I forgot where I was.

[00:06:50] Oh, stay away from the area.

[00:06:51] That's what I was saying.

[00:06:52] If you don't have to be there, steer clear.

[00:06:54] Because traffic is going to be a mess.

[00:06:58] Oh, and also national media.

[00:07:00] If you're wondering, yes, that is how we have been building roads in that area.

[00:07:06] That's how, yeah, that's how the region has been building roads for a long time.

[00:07:10] They're trying to get away from it because it's really pretty awful.

[00:07:13] But that was, yeah, that was kind of our calling card down there.

[00:07:18] So there's going to be, it's going to be a mess.

[00:07:20] But here's what I realized in listening to some of the coverage, the previews and stuff about what's going on.

[00:07:29] And I think Scott Hamilton may have been down there interviewing some people in the parking lot.

[00:07:34] And you know what it reminded me of?

[00:07:36] And also, this was prompted, I should say also, I saw somebody on Twitter that was bad-mouthing fish.

[00:07:43] And not the aquatic life, but the band, P-H-I-S-H, which I'm not here to defend fish at all.

[00:07:51] But they were happy that they had never gotten into fish, too.

[00:07:55] So, the Trump parking lot scene, the Trump rallies, like, I was a deadhead.

[00:08:07] I've been to the Grateful Dead shows, the parking lot scene.

[00:08:11] Like, you go early because the lot scene is so much fun.

[00:08:17] You walk around, there's music playing, there's hippie crack, there's all, you know, nitrous oxide.

[00:08:23] There's, you know, there's just, there's like people, you know, juggling stuff.

[00:08:27] You could trade out a, as I did, a grilled cheese sandwich for a toothbrush.

[00:08:32] I was hungry, so I, you know, traded a toothbrush for a grilled cheese sandwich.

[00:08:36] I got it.

[00:08:38] I did not use the, it was not a used toothbrush.

[00:08:41] Although I probably could have, I probably still could have made that trade.

[00:08:45] But, um, all right, how about this?

[00:08:48] The, the Parrotheads, right, that would travel around, watch all of the Jimmy Buffett shows.

[00:08:53] It dawned on me as I'm listening to some of the people that are already there.

[00:08:56] Some people are camped out there.

[00:08:58] They've been to 47 shows, or sorry, rallies.

[00:09:02] But that's, it was, it's the same sort of scene, it sounds like.

[00:09:05] Like, like, the traveling to the show and hanging out in the lot with all of your fellow Trump heads?

[00:09:15] Trump, Trump-a-maniacs?

[00:09:17] By the way, did you notice that, like, a day after Hulk Hogan said that Trump-a-mania was going to run wild on you,

[00:09:24] that Joe dropped out?

[00:09:25] Did you notice that?

[00:09:26] I'm sure it's unrelated.

[00:09:28] Probably just a coincidence, but I did note the timing.

[00:09:32] But I wonder, is the lot scene at the Trump rallies, like, that's part of the draw?

[00:09:41] That's a big part of the draw.

[00:09:43] Because, obviously, they've seen the show over, I mean, 40-something times.

[00:09:47] I mean, yes, yes, it's never the same set list, right?

[00:09:51] But they still play some of the same, they mix them up, but you're still getting some, a lot of the same songs, you know?

[00:09:56] Like, with The Dead, The Grateful Dead, you would, I mean, they'd mix them up and stuff.

[00:10:00] But you knew they were going to go, you know, I know you, Ryder, out of China, Cat.

[00:10:06] Like, they knew, like, these were the progressions and stuff.

[00:10:10] So I kind of, I get the sense that the appeal is the fellowship out in the lots.

[00:10:17] I've never been to the Trump head lot scene, but I got to believe that that's part of the deal.

[00:10:23] No?

[00:10:24] Why else would people be camping out ahead of time at 6 o'clock in the morning or something, 12 hours before the doors open?

[00:10:31] Or, actually, the doors open at 2.

[00:10:33] He starts talking at 6.

[00:10:36] And then Joe Biden's going to speak, I think, at, like, 8.

[00:10:39] But as I understand it, that's a pre-recorded, I think it's going to be a pre-recorded message.

[00:10:44] I don't know.

[00:10:44] Maybe.

[00:10:45] Never can tell these days.

[00:10:47] Got an email here from Dennis, who says,

[00:10:50] You might want to advise those visitors coming to the Bojangles Coliseum for the rally today that the two empty bus lanes down the middle of Independence Boulevard have been vacated for about a decade due to Charlotte's excellent planning commissars.

[00:11:05] It's ghost projects like these bus lanes and our magnificent trolley car that make Charlotte such a unique city.

[00:11:12] Just like the bus lanes, nobody rides the trolley car either.

[00:11:16] Welcome to the Queen City.

[00:11:18] Well, Dennis, you're overlooking the purpose of the street car.

[00:11:27] The purpose of the street car was to get Anthony Foxx elected mayor.

[00:11:34] And it served its purpose.

[00:11:36] That's exactly what happened.

[00:11:38] Anthony Foxx, in a tight race against John Lasseter for mayor, promised the East Charlotte crowd that was very upset that they weren't getting a train.

[00:11:49] They were getting rapid bus down Independence Boulevard and they wanted trains.

[00:11:54] They wanted the train stations and the development that comes with the train stations because they're permanent.

[00:11:59] They're not you can't move them around like bus stops.

[00:12:02] I mean, you want to move a bus stop, you just pull the sign out and move it down the street, you know.

[00:12:05] So they wanted they wanted trains.

[00:12:08] And.

[00:12:10] They were getting very, very angry.

[00:12:11] Nancy Carter, the city council member representing the East Side at the time, threatening to vote against all sorts of things.

[00:12:20] And and so, you know.

[00:12:25] He cut a deal.

[00:12:26] And he leapfrogged the streetcar project over all of the other higher priority projects in order to get the East Charlotte Democrats on board, which he did because he promised them tens of millions of dollars in streetcar money.

[00:12:42] And then after he was mayor, he then went and became the transportation secretary, I believe, under Obama.

[00:12:51] Right.

[00:12:53] Him knowing as much as he does about streetcars and all.

[00:12:57] Right.

[00:12:58] So he then he leap.

[00:13:00] Yeah.

[00:13:00] So you leapfrog the streetcar project over the bus rapid transit and the train projects and such.

[00:13:06] Divert all of that money away and get the streetcar to nowhere.

[00:13:11] And then that gets you your assignment in the Obama administration, which I believe he then parlayed into like a consultant or a lobbyist gig for a transportation company, obviously.

[00:13:23] So it served its purpose, Dennis.

[00:13:25] I mean, that's the thing.

[00:13:26] If you write if if you don't understand the result you are looking at, you got to go back and reassess the assumption.

[00:13:33] Your assumption was that the streetcar was meant to move people in some sort of mass transity sort of way.

[00:13:42] And that's what it was supposed to do.

[00:13:46] No, supposed to get Anthony Fox elected mayor to propel him into higher office.

[00:13:52] And it did that.

[00:13:53] Right.

[00:13:54] So success.

[00:13:55] OK.

[00:13:55] So the Washington Post first reported last night that the U.S. Secret Service is encouraging the Trump campaign to halt the large scale events that his supporters have grown accustomed to.

[00:14:08] They say we don't want to make the Harris campaign look too bad.

[00:14:13] No, I'm kidding.

[00:14:14] Look, they filled that high school gymnasium.

[00:14:17] They they got a lot of people.

[00:14:18] Then they and she answered all of the questions.

[00:14:21] Anyway, in the aftermath of the shooting, agents from the Secret Service communicated their concerns about large outdoor rallies going forward.

[00:14:32] To the Trump campaign advisers, according to people familiar with the matter.

[00:14:37] Trump's team, at least according to the Post story, is scouting larger indoor arenas to accommodate thousands of rally goers.

[00:14:45] Oh, my gosh.

[00:14:46] All right.

[00:14:46] OK, there's another one.

[00:14:47] Rally goer.

[00:14:48] That's a terrible word.

[00:14:50] Terrible word.

[00:14:51] Sounds awful.

[00:14:52] It's almost as bad as vote getter, which is why I have introduced the term voteainer.

[00:14:57] So all of you national media that are in town to cover the Trump rally at Bojangles Coliseum, please think about adopting the word voteainer instead of vote getter.

[00:15:07] It's a terrible word.

[00:15:08] Vote getter.

[00:15:09] Awful.

[00:15:10] Rally goer.

[00:15:11] Awful.

[00:15:12] Just say, you know, attendees or audience or or or or Trumpites.

[00:15:18] Like Hulk Hogan suggested.

[00:15:22] The campaign is not currently planning any large outdoor events, according to a person close to Trump.

[00:15:28] It's not clear whether the agency has made the same requests of Vice President Kamala Harris, though.

[00:15:33] Writing at the federalist dot com.

[00:15:36] This is a piece by M.D.

[00:15:38] Kittle says the Washington Post devoted several column inches to what a burden Trump's outdoor rallies have been for an agency that glaringly failed its mission to protect him.

[00:15:48] The post's narrative is anything but subtle.

[00:15:51] Trump and his penchant for massive campaign rallies is to blame for his near assassination.

[00:15:57] The rallies have long been viewed as onerous by the Secret Service because they include complicated outdoor venues with thousands, if not tens of thousands of people.

[00:16:07] How dare you attract that many people to your events, Trump?

[00:16:13] It's just this war and that this will be Johnson.

[00:16:17] Most other former presidents rarely appear in public.

[00:16:20] And when they do, they usually appear in settings such as conferences and restaurants with fewer people.

[00:16:26] Trump requires a much larger security footprint than other past presidents because he holds so many large events.

[00:16:34] End quote.

[00:16:35] That was from the Washington Post's Josh Dawsey.

[00:16:40] But Kittle says Trump isn't merely a former president showing up to a haughty cocktail party with D.C. elites.

[00:16:46] He's the GOP's candidate for president, whether the Washington Post and their Democrat pals like it or not.

[00:16:52] His rallies are so much more than standard campaign events.

[00:16:56] They're how the political outsider has campaigned for the better part of a decade.

[00:17:01] He loves them.

[00:17:03] This is what got me thinking, too, along these lines.

[00:17:06] Like, these are dead shows.

[00:17:08] It's like Grateful Dead shows.

[00:17:12] Right?

[00:17:12] You got a set list, but you don't know.

[00:17:14] Actually, the Grateful Dead never even played with a set list.

[00:17:16] They would just communicate during the jams while they were playing on what song they were going to go into or they're going to play next or whatever.

[00:17:23] And sometimes it didn't go very smoothly.

[00:17:25] Right?

[00:17:25] Sometimes it went on for way too long.

[00:17:27] Kind of like Trump's acceptance speech.

[00:17:29] Sometimes, you know, and sometimes it was gold.

[00:17:31] It was just magical.

[00:17:33] Right?

[00:17:34] Shutting down the outdoor events would smack of election interference, a way to stymie a successful means of campaigning.

[00:17:42] Harris made her campaign stop as the Democrats' presumptive top of the ticket yesterday in suburban Milwaukee at a high school.

[00:17:49] The Associated Press boasted about the roaring Wisconsin crowd, but never told us what the turnout was.

[00:17:58] But it being a high school gymnasium, you get an idea of like the max capacity there.

[00:18:07] Right?

[00:18:07] The occupancy is probably like a thousand or so.

[00:18:10] Right?

[00:18:13] Former President Trump, according to NBC News, plans to stop holding outdoor rallies like the one where he was shot.

[00:18:21] According to two sources familiar with his campaign's operations, the sources said current plans are to hold indoor rallies,

[00:18:27] but they also said it's possible Trump will participate in smaller outdoor events or larger rallies in facilities where entrances are more fully controlled and there are not issues with high ground nearby.

[00:18:39] News of the shift in venues comes the day the director of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheadle, announced her resignation.

[00:18:47] In her letter, she said she took full responsibility for the security lapse.

[00:18:52] Well, I mean, finally, yes, she did.

[00:18:54] But she was claiming that she was taking full responsibility, that the buck stopped with her, but that she wasn't going to resign.

[00:19:01] And then for some reason, she resigned.

[00:19:05] Again, much like Joe Biden said he was going to keep campaigning.

[00:19:10] He's running for reelection.

[00:19:12] He's not going to let the elites muscle him out.

[00:19:14] And then they muscled him out.

[00:19:16] In a phone interview with Newsmax, Trump said, I don't think I had much of a choice or she had much of a choice, I should say.

[00:19:23] He's talking about Cheadle resigning.

[00:19:25] He said in recent months, his campaign had been asking for more Secret Service agents at campaign events, but was, quote, not getting them.

[00:19:34] The editors at National Review said that she was always going to have a rough time explaining to lawmakers how her agency allowed an aspiring assassin to get such an easy shot at Donald Trump on July 13th.

[00:19:45] But she did worse than expected.

[00:19:47] And maybe that's the why here.

[00:19:49] Maybe people thought she was going to perform a teensy weensy little bit better than she did, and then she didn't.

[00:19:56] And so then it was like, okay, you're out.

[00:19:58] I do know I have.

[00:20:01] It is a very rare sight.

[00:20:03] What we saw at that hearing with Democrats and Republicans together on the same page saying.

[00:20:11] Massive failure.

[00:20:12] You need to resign.

[00:20:14] That is a rarity.

[00:20:16] And maybe that's what did it.

[00:20:17] But internal pressure.

[00:20:18] Don't know if it came from inside the administration or what.

[00:20:22] Maybe somebody will find out in the coming days.

[00:20:25] There was a series of questions by a Democrat during the hearing that looking back on it was almost prescient.

[00:20:35] Chris sent an email.

[00:20:37] Pete, I heard the news report earlier about beefed up security at Trump's rallies, saying that everybody entering was being sniffed.

[00:20:47] I did not realize that Biden was stepping down so he could run security at Trump rallies.

[00:20:52] That's good to see him land on his feet.

[00:20:56] There you go.

[00:20:57] Yeah.

[00:20:57] Well, it's nice, you know, after retirement, you know, you find something to keep you busy, you know, occupy your time.

[00:21:05] It's always good.

[00:21:05] Okay.

[00:21:06] So Jared Moskowitz, Democrat from Florida.

[00:21:11] This was his line of questioning to the Secret Service chief on Monday.

[00:21:15] And the next day she's she resigns.

[00:21:20] But listen to this line of questioning from Moskowitz.

[00:21:23] Director, I just want to give you an honest assessment of how this is going for you today.

[00:21:29] Did you happen to catch the hearing many months ago in education where there were a bunch of university professor of university presidents and Elise Stefanik asked a very easy question and couldn't get an answer.

[00:21:42] Did you see that hearing?

[00:21:45] No, I don't think I did.

[00:21:46] Okay, well, let me tell you, it didn't go well.

[00:21:49] And the short end of that story was those university professors all resigned.

[00:21:53] They're gone.

[00:21:54] That's how this is going for you.

[00:21:57] This is where this is headed.

[00:21:59] Okay.

[00:22:00] This is.

[00:22:02] I don't know who prepared you for this.

[00:22:05] I don't know how many times you've testified in front of Congress.

[00:22:09] But a president was almost assassinated live on television, not just for Americans, but for the world to see.

[00:22:16] And this being your first opportunity, I understand there's an ongoing investigation.

[00:22:21] I understand there's things that you can not talk about.

[00:22:25] But the idea that we're getting less than you did on television is something that Democrats, independents or Republicans are going to find unacceptable.

[00:22:35] My high school, Marjory Stoneman Douglas, was on the list of mass shootings that Representative Raskin held up.

[00:22:42] That very day, the school resource officer, a police officer, did not run into the building.

[00:22:47] He hid in the stairwell while the shooter was in the building.

[00:22:50] He stayed outside.

[00:22:51] Never helped.

[00:22:52] Okay.

[00:22:52] He also directed other officers who showed up on the scene not to go into the building.

[00:22:57] When it was determined that the failures in response and training and that the sheriff fired nobody in his agency,

[00:23:08] Governor DeSantis then removed that sheriff.

[00:23:10] I supported the removal.

[00:23:12] So here's my question.

[00:23:13] You said there's going to be accountability.

[00:23:14] I understand you don't want to give us names.

[00:23:15] When you say that, are you telling the committee that once it's concluded,

[00:23:19] you're prepared to fire the people on the ground who made poor decisions that day?

[00:23:25] I'm prepared to take the actions necessary.

[00:23:27] No, no, that's nonsense.

[00:23:29] Okay.

[00:23:31] Accountability.

[00:23:31] The failure was human.

[00:23:33] That doesn't mean they're bad people.

[00:23:35] It means they failed that day.

[00:23:38] And a president was almost, a former president was almost assassinated.

[00:23:41] Okay.

[00:23:42] Are you prepared to fire the human failure on the ground?

[00:23:46] Yes or no?

[00:23:47] When you have the names of where those failures were, they're people.

[00:23:50] It's not like a piece of technology failed.

[00:23:53] It was people who failed that day.

[00:23:54] Are you prepared to fire them?

[00:23:57] I don't have an answer as to whether.

[00:23:59] Well, then how can there be accountability?

[00:24:01] Right.

[00:24:02] If you're not prepared to fire someone.

[00:24:04] And the reason why your name is going to be the person who's held accountable,

[00:24:09] the reason why members in this committee are calling for resignation,

[00:24:12] and I join in that, or for the president to fire you,

[00:24:15] is because you're saying there's going to be accountability,

[00:24:17] but you can't commit that people are going to get fired.

[00:24:22] There you go.

[00:24:22] Well, exactly right.

[00:24:23] Michael Cloud, Republican from Texas.

[00:24:27] CNN reported that the Secret Service did not sweep the building.

[00:24:30] The shooter was used to shoot President Trump and other attendees.

[00:24:33] Is that true or false?

[00:24:36] So we are conducting a mission insurance investigation,

[00:24:39] and will depend on the information that we obtain from our investigations.

[00:24:43] Okay.

[00:24:45] The Secret Service knew there was a suspicious person anywhere from eight minutes

[00:24:49] before the president walked on stage to 30 to 60 minutes.

[00:24:52] We have different reports.

[00:24:53] Was President Trump or his team notified of the threat?

[00:24:57] No.

[00:24:58] I think there's a difference and a distinction between suspicious and threat.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:02] So we are going back and looking at communications to know when the information about a suspicious person

[00:25:09] was passed to Secret Service personnel.

[00:25:13] Okay.

[00:25:14] But was President Trump or his team notified?

[00:25:16] Again, we are going back and looking to make sure that we have the exact information

[00:25:21] of when those notifications were made and who those notifications were made to.

[00:25:26] Okay.

[00:25:27] I think it's troubling for a lot of us that the number one question everyone in America is wondering

[00:25:31] is why was the roof left open?

[00:25:33] And after nine days, we should at least maybe have a little bit of that information.

[00:25:38] And when you come to this committee hearing and you don't have anything to say about that,

[00:25:43] it's very, very troubling.

[00:25:45] Did you review the security plan for this event?

[00:25:49] No.

[00:25:50] I personally do not review security plans for events that take place across the country.

[00:25:57] Any of them?

[00:26:00] We have a number of events that take place.

[00:26:01] Who's the top level official who reviews the security plans?

[00:26:05] There's a number of people that review security plans.

[00:26:08] Who's ultimately responsible for signing off on a security plan?

[00:26:12] It's a conjunction of personnel.

[00:26:15] There are people on the ground.

[00:26:16] There are supervisors on the detail.

[00:26:18] There are people at headquarters.

[00:26:19] So there's not one person who says, okay, this is good.

[00:26:23] It's copacetic.

[00:26:24] We're going for it.

[00:26:25] I think much in the way that we build our security plans where they are multi-layered.

[00:26:29] No doubt there's teams working different aspects of it.

[00:26:31] But ultimately, isn't there an individual who signs off on the plan?

[00:26:34] Much like how we design our security plans, they're multi-layered.

[00:26:38] There are multiple layers.

[00:26:39] So there's no accountability?

[00:26:41] There is accountability, sir.

[00:26:43] There's – this is – whether it's the FBI or Fauci or anything, it's time after time after time.

[00:26:51] These multiple layers of accountability turn into layers of plausible deniability in agency after agency after agency.

[00:26:59] That's got to be fixed.

[00:27:00] Yes, exactly.

[00:27:03] Exactly.

[00:27:04] That's why there isn't accountability because it's too big.

[00:27:07] It's too big and you get all these different layers.

[00:27:09] Exactly right.

[00:27:10] All right.

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