Trump's response today is a reaction to a fake media narrative (01-30-2025--Hour2)

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[00:00:28] A military helicopter collided with a flight from Kansas that was bound for Reagan National, or DCA. And they collided as the plane was on approach and about to land. They were like 300 feet off the ground. And the Black Hawk helicopter had three service members on it. They were all killed. 64 people on the airplane were all killed. The wreckage fell into the Potomac River.

[00:00:57] Emergency response immediately on scene. And I will read to you the post that Donald Trump sent out last night or early this morning at 1219 AM.

[00:01:13] Said the airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It's a clear night. The lights on the plane were blazing. Why didn't the helicopter go up or down or turn? Why didn't the helicopter tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane? This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. Not good.

[00:01:39] So that's what Trump sent out last night, early this morning in the aftermath of the crash. Eric Erickson, about 10 minutes ago. He's a talk show host down in Atlanta. And for people who are not aware of what the coverage was going on or looked like last night and what reporters were saying last night,

[00:02:02] what Democrats and anti-Trumpers, they were flooding the zone last night with these accusations that this was somehow the fault of Donald Trump. And, you know, the decision to, you know, do the funding freeze or a hiring freeze or the FAA administrator isn't on the job anymore.

[00:02:23] And like somehow or another, that caused the crash. They were tying it to Donald Trump, much like they do in any kind of a tragedy, any kind of a mass casualty event. And there's always this race to find a connection to the Republicans, to the president, you know, and to hang it on them. And so if you were unaware of all of that, that occurred late last night into the wee early morning hours today,

[00:02:53] then what you saw today with the Donald Trump press conference, or if you heard the press conference where he came out and I made some notes here. He talks about, he starts off by saying, you know, this is a dark and excruciating event in our capital and in our country.

[00:03:16] And then he pivots to defend his administration's implementation of, you know, merit-based hiring, the ripping out of DEI. He says, I put safety first. I, you know, that's what I did in my first term. I'm doing it now. He said, Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Democrats, they changed it. This is due to policy, the DEI policy, the lowering of standards for the FAA and the air traffic controllers.

[00:03:45] And I wrote, as he's saying this, I wrote, why? Question mark. Because they are blaming Trump. That's why he's saying this. Because they were blaming Donald Trump. And if you want to blame policy and personnel, and if that's, if that's where you want to go with this, then what Donald Trump said with Barack Obama was correct. This is from June 3rd, 2015. So before Trump comes in, right before Obama is out,

[00:04:15] like a year, year and a half before Obama's term is ending, Wall Street Journal headline, affirmative action lands in the air traffic control tower. The Obama administration forces the Federal Aviation Administration to move away from merit-based hiring criteria. Now, is that the reason for the crash? We don't know. I don't, I don't know. Nobody does at this point.

[00:04:41] And that's, that's what I am urging people is to be, people need to be cautious. Go slowly. But I understand pushing back against the immediate race to, to set a narrative and then have it calcify in the public opinion. And that's what the left is very, very good at because they control the institutions of the media, right? They tell a story and stories are very powerful things.

[00:05:08] And you tell a story enough times, people then think it's true. And Eric Erickson, I mentioned the host down in Atlanta, he summed it up about 10 minutes ago on Twitter. And I think this is exactly correct. He said reporters last night rushed to blame the plane crash on Donald Trump.

[00:05:30] Now, today, Donald Trump pushed back and the same reporters blaming him last night are now upset at him for politicizing the tragedy. That's what's occurring here. It's the same thing. It's like, do we not remember from four years ago, right? Or eight years ago when Trump first got in, he was running his campaign on it. This is the same play over and over and over again.

[00:06:00] And Donald Trump responds. He comes out and he responds. And, like, you can disagree with the way he did it. I'm not a fan of the way he did it. I think he could have done it better. But what do I know? I'm not president. I haven't won, you know, the presidency. So if that's what people want, then, you know, then they're getting it. This was part of the package. So.

[00:06:27] But I but I recognize what it is that he's doing and why he's doing it. And so now they're going to accuse him of politicizing it when they were the ones who actually politicized in the first place. Let me go to the phone lines here and get up. I had Marcus. But OK, Marcus dropped off. Here's Tom. Welcome to the show. Hello, Tom. Hey, how are you doing, Pete? First of all, I want to say condolences to the families, all of them. And it was a terrible tragedy.

[00:06:55] But I want to say sometimes and please don't take this the wrong way. It seems like you're trying to defend the indefensible. And like you said, I agree with you on this. He should have done it a different way. And my third thing is he should have waited until the experts get the report together. This stuff is not politics when you're dealing with death. It's not Republican, independent or whatever. Death is death.

[00:07:23] So I think that Trump needs to get people that are not sycophants. And that's a big word. You'll probably know what it is. The king has surrounded himself with a bunch of sycophants. And what we need in America is just plain, objective truth. OK, so a couple of things, Tom. I'll stop you right there. I know what sycophants are. But I would also submit that every administration packs their administration with sycophants. That's kind of the deal.

[00:07:49] But the first thing is that you say I'm kind of defending the indefensible. So define the... I don't want to defend the indefensible. I feel like you do that. But you did say he did it differently. You could have done it differently. I'll give you that now. Yeah, because I was going to ask you, so what is the indefensible and how did I defend it? Well, you didn't defend it. The indefensible is this. This stuff has nothing to do with DEI.

[00:08:15] He doesn't need to keep blaming Bush or Biden or any... Obama, nobody. He just needs to take charge, unite the country for the good, send condolences to the families, and cut this bullcrap out, as you say, because he's not going to make it like that. So, all right, so let me... So then let me ask a follow-up here. And I have about like a minute with you, but before the break. So let me ask this then. So when the media establishment is blaming him for the crash, what is the appropriate response

[00:08:45] that you would have preferred he take to combat that narrative? The appropriate response is to give condolences to the family. They were going to wait for the experts to come out with the report. And to hell with the press. Public opinion, the voters have spoken. He don't need to worry about the press. The people have spoken, but he just needs to conduct himself more presidential. Thank you and have a good day. Okay, Tom.

[00:09:11] So Tom would have preferred that Trump not address the accusations. And that is in marketing, that is in branding and PR. That is one approach. The other approach is to not let unfounded false accusations stand. Because when you don't respond, then people believe they are true. And I am generally of that school.

[00:09:40] I am generally of that approach. That somebody makes an accusation that's false. I respond. That's false. Here's why. Now, again, Donald Trump does it his way. And it has worked for him so far. Below these many years is what, you know, 78 years or whatever it is. And because he's gotten to be president. He's won, you know, three Republican nominations. He's won the office.

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[00:12:02] And Trump mentioned that. And so coming out now and saying, you know, this is what we know. And it looks like he's got questions too. And he's saying it looks like that it was the helicopter that didn't do something right. But like I played in the first hour, whenever you have these types of crashes, there's usually a bunch of different reasons that all converge at one point in time at a certain place. And multiple failures compound.

[00:12:32] And so that's the that's sort of the general thing that occurs in in these types of accidents. But we don't know at this point. We're speculating. Let me get to Marcus here. Hello, Marcus. Welcome to the show. Oh, great show. We appreciate y'all. As usual, you're doing a great job and you're hitting the nail on the head on most things. You're missing one little ingredient.

[00:12:55] And that is, you know, we we on the right have been taken with chin since both bushes. And, you know, they come out like Maxine Water did at that time and run people off the restaurants and run people on the right rim away from the gas stations and stuff like that. And that was actually happening in D.C. and everything. They're showing on TV and whatnot. And, you know, it's long come Trump. And this is why he's so popular.

[00:13:24] This is why he draws giant crowds is he's actually fighting back for us. And, you know, we've been we've been they've been talked down to and then they've been calling us all sorts of vile names and whatnot. And and outlawing stuff that we say and outlawing this or that and saying that not politically correct and all that stuff. And he fights back. And that's why he's so popular. I mean, I hear people talk about they don't like his mouth and whatnot, but they're going to vote for him and stuff like that.

[00:13:52] But still, most people, they show up in giant crowds. I've never been to one like that. But they sit on TV and that's why he's so popular, because he runs his mouth. And it's, you know, and a lot of people don't like it. But I think, you know, finally somebody is fighting back for us. We can't go on our TV and tell them, you know, that they're crazy and stuff like that. But he does. And he calls them out. It just uses common sense. And most of the time what he says is right. So it's been interesting to watch.

[00:14:19] But, you know, that's the reason we have somebody to fight back for us and say stuff. The people have been bad-mouthing us for a long time. So I think that's one of the reasons he draws big crowds. I would agree. It's the thing that I heard from 2015, which is he fights. And that was the grand summation of all things Trump. It was just that he fights. And it didn't even matter what he was fighting for. It really didn't. Over the years, like, people will change. And there's enough examples of this. I don't need to run through it. But he will flip-flop back and forth.

[00:14:48] And people that just want somebody to fight for them, they don't care. It does not matter if he flips. It doesn't matter if he cusses. It doesn't matter if he's wrong. None of that matters. They just want somebody that's going to defend them. And, look, I understand the inclination. I get it. I don't think it's healthy. But, you know, I lost that argument eight years ago. Yeah. Well, it's not hard to do like that. Yeah. So, Marcus, I appreciate the call, sir. Let me jump over and get Angela on before the news. Hello, Angela.

[00:15:19] Hey, Pete. Hey. I really appreciate your detailed perspective. It's calmed me down. It's made me think about two sides to this. It's made me think in my heart that why would a passenger plane immediately descend on impact from a helicopter if it wasn't on autopilot? And I believe that they already know what happened. Anybody that can hear the radios know what was said. And Trump even said that there was a call right at impact and it was too late in that press conference. Yeah, I've heard it.

[00:15:49] And I think that it's just the FCC's job to protect their, the public before they're ready to tell everything. I mean, I was on the first international flight after 9-11. And my fiancé was making a will out until 11 p.m. the night before. He was scared. I was praying. You know, we had a safe trip and everybody was really gracious in London and Paris and places.

[00:16:16] But bottom line, people are scared sometimes when they fly. Oh, absolutely. No, I get it. I totally understand that. But there was just, I just have to thank you because sometimes I feel like I just always hear one perspective and you just really kind of, you just, you had a way earlier, you know, within the last half hour of just making me calm down. Well, I'm glad I could do that for you.

[00:16:45] No, I'm glad I could do that for you. That's what I strive to do, to calm people's passions. I mean, I understand that sometimes people will fuel things just to get conversation or whatever. And maybe that's not the right word. No, that's true. I really appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thanks, Angela. No, there are people that just like stirring the pot. And that is a business model for some people. It is not mine. And maybe that's why people are like, oh, when are you going to go national or whatever?

[00:17:13] I don't think I can because I like sometimes I see too many angles for a lot of people. You know, they don't like the fact that I try to see these things from all of these different angles. And I recognize that sometimes, you know, the truth lies somewhere in the middle between all of these different arguments. And I don't have to choose. I like I reject. I fundamentally reject the false dichotomy that it's either this or that. And I'm not saying that's happening right now.

[00:17:43] But, you know, it's either this or that. Like you're either with me or you're evil and you're a Nazi. Like, OK, like there are some reasonable disagreements here and different things to assess. And all I urge in all of these instances is to wait and see what some information is when some information gets presented. And so then we can learn. Because if you adopt a position early on after anything like this, it becomes much harder for you then to assess new information when it comes in.

[00:18:12] Because you become wedded to a particular viewpoint. All right. I hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell me if something like this happened at your house. Your family and friends are gathered around. Maybe y'all are in the living room. You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing. And then somebody says, hey, dad, remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred? And then the room gets all quiet. All eyes are on dad who says, oh, you know, well, I've been meaning to. But I just haven't gotten around to it.

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[00:19:40] Bad weather and that sort of thing. Now, that was 82. Ronald Reagan was president. A decade later, Ronald Reagan went and spoke at the commencement address for the graduating class of the Citadel in Charleston. And he talked about this plane crash. And I was actually there.

[00:20:08] My brother graduated from the Citadel, 1993. That's when Reagan spoke. And he told this story in his address. Yes, countless soldiers have distinguished themselves on fields of valor and are part of the century and a half tradition of duty and honor we celebrate today.

[00:20:31] But for me, there is one name that will always come to mind whenever I think of the Citadel and the Corps of Cadets. It is a name that appears in no military histories. Its owner won no glory on the field of battle. No, his moment of truth came not in combat, but on a snow-driven peacetime day in the nation's capital in January of 1982.

[00:21:01] That is the day that the civilian airliner on which he was a passenger crashed into a Washington bridge and then plunged into the rough waters of the icy Potomac. He survived the impact of the crash and found himself with a small group of other survivors struggling to stay afloat in the near-frozen river. And then suddenly there was hope.

[00:21:27] A park police helicopter appeared overhead, trailing a lifeline to the outstretched hands below. A lifeline that could carry but a few of the victims to the safety of the shore. News cameramen watched helplessly, recorded the scene as the man in the water repeatedly handed the rope to the others,

[00:21:49] refusing to save himself until the first one, then three, then three, and four, and finally five of his fellow passengers had been rescued. But when the helicopter returned for one final trip, the trip that would rescue the man who had passed the rope, it was too late. He had slipped at last beneath the waves with the sinking wreckage.

[00:22:16] The only one of 79 fatalities in the disaster who lost his life after the accident itself. For months thereafter, we knew him only as the unknown hero. And then an exhaustive Coast Guard investigation conclusively established his identity. Many of you here today know his name as well as I do.

[00:22:44] For his portrait now hangs with honor, as it indeed should, on this very campus. The campus where he once walked, as you have, through the Summerall Gate and along the Avenue of Remembrance. He was a young first classman with a crisp uniform and a confident stride on a bright spring morning full of hopes and plans for the future.

[00:23:10] He never dreamed that his life's supreme challenge would come in its final moments, some 25 years later, adrift in the bone-chilling waters of the ice streamed river and surrounded by others who desperately needed help. But when the challenge came, he was ready. His name was Arlen D. Williams, Jr., the Citadel Class of 1957.

[00:23:40] He brought honor to his alma mater and honor to his nation. I was never more proud as president than on that day in June 1983 when his parents and his children joined me in the Oval Office. For then I was able, on behalf of the nation, to pay posthumous honor to him.

[00:24:04] Greater love, as the Bible tells us, hath no man than to lay down his life for a friend. I have spoken of Arlen Williams in part to honor him anew in your presence here at this special institution that helped mold his character.

[00:24:24] It is the same institution that has now put its final imprint on you, the graduating seniors, of its 150th year. But I have also retold his story because I believe it has something important to teach to you as graduates about the challenges that life inevitably seem to present and about what it is that prepares us to meet them.

[00:24:54] Sometimes, you see, life gives us what we think is fair warning of the choices that will shape our future on such occasions. We are able to look far along the path up ahead to that distant point in the woods where the poet's two roads diverge.

[00:25:13] And then, if we are wise, we will take time to think and reflect before choosing which road to take before the junction is reached. In fact, but such occasions, in fact, are rather rare, far rarer, I suspect, than the confident eyes of one's early 20s can quite perceive.

[00:25:38] Far more often than we can comfortably admit, the most crucial of life's moments come like the scriptural thief in the night. Suddenly and without notice, the crisis is upon us and the moment of choice is at hand. A moment fraught with import for ourselves and for all who are depending on the choice that we make.

[00:26:05] We find ourselves, if you will, plunged without warning into the icy water where the currents of moral consequence run swift and deep and where our fellow men, and yes, I believe our maker, are waiting to see whether we will pass the rope.

[00:26:25] These are the moments when instinct and character take command as they took command for Arlen Williams on the day our Lord would call him home. For there is no time at such moments for anything but fortitude and integrity, debate and reflection, and a leisurely weighing of the alternatives are luxuries we do not have.

[00:26:53] The only question is, what kind of responsibility will come to the fore? And now we come to the fore? And now we come to the heart of the matter. To the core lesson taught by the heroism of Arlen Williams on January 13, 1982. For you see, the character that takes command in moments of crucial choices has already been determined.

[00:27:20] It has been determined by a thousand other choices made earlier in seemingly unimportant moments. It has been determined by all the little choices of years past, by all those times when the voice of conscience was at war with the voice of temptation, whispering the lie that it really doesn't matter.

[00:27:47] It has been determined by all the day-to-day decisions made when life seemed easy and crises seemed far away. The decisions that piece by piece, bit by bit, developed habits of discipline or of laziness, habits of self-sacrifice or of self-indulgence, habits of duty and honor and integrity or dishonor and shame.

[00:28:14] Because when life does get tough and the crisis is undeniably at hand, when we must in an instant look inward for strength of character to see us through, we will find nothing inside ourselves that we have not already put there. And you know, it turns out that much the same thing is also true for our country.

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[00:30:01] Hey, I'm good. What's going on? Well, I just I've been an aircraft mechanic all my life. And that's 47 years I've been an aircraft mechanic and I actually work on Bombardier aircraft, which is the type this one was. And I hear people freaking out, you know, first off, hearts and prayers to those that lost their lives. It shouldn't have happened.

[00:30:26] The safety systems and aircraft today almost always would preclude this type of event. But there's a lot that that could have happened here that that we'll know soon. And I just I just want to encourage people not to be too freaked out about safety of aircraft. They're extremely safe. But, you know, like with a military aircraft, they could have had their transponder turned off. They can do that.

[00:30:53] Right. And if they were running the kind of training mission, a continuity of government training, which is like what happens if the president and the vice president are killed or something like there has to be a continuity of government. If if that's the kind of mission, this training that they were doing, then they very much I'd seen reports that they had gone dark as part of the training mission. And so if that that might have contributed.

[00:31:17] That's absolutely true, because anybody today can download an app to track aircraft. And I track I track my my company's aircraft on that particular app just so I know where they're at. Not it's with commercial aircraft. They're always going to be transponding or putting out a signal, whereas the military don't if they were transponding.

[00:31:43] And I don't know either way whether they were or not, but I agree they probably were dark. And at that point, the aircraft inbound who was doing everything completely right. Could not have detected them. Right. And so he could not have taken evasive action. No, in the plane was. Yeah. Apparently the plane was cleared. Right.

[00:32:07] They were the ones going in and there was, you know, the warning that went to the helicopter that said, you know, hey, there's you know, there's another plane here. And what may have happened is that the chopper pilot looked and saw another plane that was taking off that and was like off to the right and saw that plane and thought that's the plane that they're talking about, not this other one on a short approach. And and that that RJ would have been at that point.

[00:32:36] I looked at the at the flight tracks and that RJ would have been turning for the runway, which would have put him right wing up and very difficult for the helicopter pilot to see. And they were probably, as you said, distracted by the taking off airplane, not the landing one. And and I don't know what type of airplane was taking off, whether it was an RJ, too. But the bottom line is it was it was simple human error.

[00:33:04] But we have to protect our military, too, when they're on a mission where their transponder needs to be off, because if I can download the app and track them, so can the bad guys. Right. Yeah. And, you know, these we are aware of stories of military training exercises. That go very bad and soldiers and airmen, Marines, they lose their lives in those accidents.

[00:33:32] And then there are investigations and everything else. But these like this, this does happen. And it's an it seems like right now. But I have no idea just going by some of the the details that I've seen. It does. You know, it does appear that human error is the biggest factor here. But I don't know. Well, yeah, we'll wait and see. I think we'll know that. But but at the end of the day, you know, God bless our troops.

[00:34:01] And and, you know, our hearts and my heart's broken for the people. Yeah. You know, that's very personal to me. Yeah. And everybody in our industry. So, you know, I really just, you know, pray for those folks that lost their lives and including the helicopter pilot. Yeah. Because it's. Yeah. I mean, it's I think that's what it's going to come down to, that they were they they thought they were looking at the right airplane. The controller did everything right.

[00:34:29] I heard some of the president this morning on your radio. And I think there were some jump to and I love Trump, but there's some jump to there that he just not the time or the place. Yeah. Yeah. And unless he's gotten some information that we don't have yet, I'm sure he has. But like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But but I don't know how anybody can can know exactly what happened at this early stage. But they may he may have a clearer sight line on that and and, you know, we'll find out.

[00:34:58] But, yeah, it. Well, I would I would hope so. Yeah. Right now it appears to be just an accident. So, Larry, I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you very much. It's it's one of those things, you know, just like when people are looking at any kind of a tragedy, mass casualty event, and people want to know how did this happen. And.

[00:35:22] You know, it's one of the reasons why I think a lot of conspiracy theories develop around these types of things is because. People are more comforted by the idea that somebody had to have done this on purpose rather than accept that mistakes and accidents and randomness happen. That's a that's a scary thing for a lot of people, I think. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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