Trump's alleged birthday letter is sus (07-18-2025--Hour2)

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There must be more to life than having everything. Donald, Yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, nor will I since I also know what it is. Donald. We have certain things in common Jeffrey Jeffrey, Yes, we do, come to think of it, Donald Enigmas never age have you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you Trump a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret. There is something I just want to put this out there too that I have seen over the last ten years, since you know, Trump came on the scene and people have attacked him in all sorts of ways. I have seen some pretty ridiculous thing that were conjured up, usually online he said, oh this is this is Trump. Trump did this, he said this or whatever, And a lot of these stories over the years when debunked, when you know, the first kind of investigation is held, they fall apart. But it's quite obvious at the very beginning, because it reads like somebody who hates Trump trying to channel Trump, but their hatred comes through. Does that make sense? I get this with callers, by the way, and emailers, people who pretend to be maga, they pretend to be of the right, and when and then they say something and it's like, well, wait a minute, that that sounds almost like a leftist's caricature of the right or of true Trump. And that's what this kind of sounds like to me. It sounds like it's written at a time when Trump is president and people hate him. Because remember, people didn't hate Donald Trump until he ran as a Republican and beat Hillary Clinton. Nope, Trump had like near universal approval. Everybody loved Trump. He was in more rap songs than any other businessman, maybe any other guy in America. He was in so many rap songs about being rich. Right. He was on Oprah all the time, he was on Larry King, he was all over the place. He had his very successful TV show, he was in movies. So just reading this thing where it says there must be if I were to just take out the voiceover the stage directions basically of who's speaking voiceover, Donald Jeffrey, Donald Jeffrey, there must be more to life than having everything. Yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is, nor will I since I also know what it is. See. So he's like he's communicating like I know what you're doing because I do it too. I've been part of what you've been doing. We both know, ha ha. And then Donald says, we have certain things in common. Jeffrey, So, okay, let's pretend for a moment that Donald Trump was part of the sex prostitution, human trafficking, all of that stuff around Epstein. Let's just say that that was all true. Why would he say we have certain things in common? Wouldn't Jeffrey already know that, right? Why would you say that you wouldn't have to And then Jeffrey replies, yes, we do, come to think of it. Wouldn't have to come to think of it because you've been participating in it with him, right, That's what I mean. Like this, it reads as if it is ret conning, retroactive continuity. You go back in the timeline to try to piece together something, to make it fit, to make it work. It's a literary device. That's what this reads like to me. I don't know. I'm just telling you, like, this is how it This is how it strikes me. And he says, enigmas never age. Okay, well this was twenty five years ago, so they both would have been fifty or so, right. Why would you say that. Isn't that more of a recent thing, like in the last ten years, fifteen years, where everybody's like, man, Donald Trump, Like, has the guy have all this energy that he sleeps for like three hours a night and doesn't seem to age at all. In fact, his hair gets blonder. It's very weird. Like yeah, yeah, I just I don't I don't know. Let me head over to the phones here and chat with Mike. Hello, Mike, welcome to the show. Hey Pete, Hey, what's up? Thanks for taking it call. First of all, I really do like the fact that you point out when something like this comes up that you don't lead to a conclusion because you just don't know and we really don't know. And I get that point absolutely, But I'm going to take both sides of this. Now let's say it. Well, first of all, if it's not true, he should deny it, right, And if it's if it is true, first of all, there got to be more than one copy of this book sitting out there, and maybe the onus is on if they looked at the one at the Justice Department of Wall Street Journal. I understand why they may not be able to have a photograph or whatever of the page, but they ot'll be able to find other copies sitting out there. So if it's true. The onus is on them to produce that, I think. But even and if it is true, and here's the point I made to your screener, I don't think there's a big smoking gun here. You know, we knew who Donald Trump was before he was elected the first time. Yeah, remember the whole access Hollywood thing. Absolutely, yeah, I mentioned it in the last hour. Right right, Yeah, there's. Been no secret and it's not a secret. And Trump has never denied that he used to go party in and hang out in the same social circles as Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, exactly, And so again, I don't think it's a smoking gun for that reason. Everybody knew who he was already. And I'm sorry. Well, here's another thing you mentioned about the book, and you said you think there may be other copies, and they very well might be he apparently, according to the Wall Street Journal story it talked about here, it is the book was put together by a New York City bookbinder named Herbert Whites, and according to people who were involved in the process, they said this in Whites died in twenty twenty, and he listed Epstein as a client on his website back in two thousand and three. So maybe there was a single book made and that was it of these letters, and that's possible. But here's the thing. That book, if it's in evidence in the DOJ files, right, it's in their boxes of evidence or whatever, then it seems to me like you could just release the book. Let's see the book, Just put the book out, let's see. Well, you know that would have embarrass Trump at this point, especially since he's denied it. So I don't think the Justice Department's going to do that. Well. The other thing is it's possible he might not have even written this. He could have had somebody else on his staff do it for him. Well, that's a good point too, And coming back to the point I guess maybe my point about maybe there are other copies of the book. Maybe not if these were all original pages that were collected and bound into a book by that bookbinder, maybe there wasn't only one. If it was a birthday gift, I don't know. Yeah, But anyway, but again back to the K point I want to make, what's the big deal. I mean, you and I might find the behavior represent reprehensible, but it's nothing the public didn't already know. It's nothing of a type that the public didn't already know about it, right, And this is remember too, it was it was it was not the burglary that cover that killed Richard Nixon. It was the cover up. Well in the media pylon. Yeah. So the the point though, that you're making about it's a nothing burger, that's the point that Ed Morrissey made as well over at hot air dot com. He's like, I don't I don't understand the end. Yeah, like what He's acknowledged this many times and according to Trump, it's not true. So who at the Wall Street Journal thought it was a good idea to run this after it was denied? If the story had some actual and substantive news value, it might be worth the risk. But it doesn't really have that value. So, Mike, I appreciate the call, But yes. The text doesn't really body. It's the drawing. Yes, exactly exactly right. Yeah, great point. I appreciate the call, Mike. Could hear from you. I have a great weekend, all right, Right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, and you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app, and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news, slash pete. I put the link in the podcast description too. I started using ground News a few months ago and more recently chose to work with them as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the left and the right. See for yourself check dot ground, dot news slash pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. All Right, So we had a call. He did I guess he did not stay on the line right, but he made a point, which I think is a really good one. Hadn't even considered it, I would have got him on. But he told Bernie call screening that he noticed how people or since this story came out yesterday, that you've got a lot of people that were agitated in magaworld. They with Trump, they were mad at Trump and like, give us the documents. What are you covering up all this stuff? They have now moved back towards Trump because he's being attacked. I had not considered that. So could it be that they released it themselves, they put it out there in order to unify the base. Again, I don't know. I mean, we're all just spitballing here. Corey. Welcome to the program. Hello, Corey, how are you? Hey, mister p thank you for taking my car. Certainly, yes, sir, as always, I'm not a Republican, Democrat, liberal or constitutions conservative, you name it. Not to be my only grum. You're just nothing. I'm a human being, what common sense? Right? Okay? Yeah, So my whole argument with this is we're talking about children being taken advantage of by demonic souls. I don't care if they're Republicans, Conservatives, Democrat, the president, law enforcement, military. This is a sickening thing that's happening. And for people to say, oh, there's nothing to see here. Oh, it's just a bunch of propaganda. These are the people that are a problem in America. Right, But you have to accept facts. Corey, you have to, Okay, So first off, you have to separate out the the the crimes that Epstein was doing, right, versus the handling of the of the case and the files right that, like those are these are separate things because I have been calling for you know, the people who were engaged in the operation side by if if they were like Prince Andrew for example, that guy paid out millions of dollars to one of the uh, one of these girls that that Epstein recruited in and that tells me yeah, like and he started sweating during the interview, and like all of this evidence around him, Like that's like he's like the one guy that I'm aware of that has his name believably attached to the uh, the the operation. I would like to know. I want to know all of the all of the other people that were part of that operation too. They should be prosecuted. Yeah, yeah, which right, And that's what people in you know, in the MAGA world influencer crowd, that's what they have been clamoring for for years. I've been saying it for years. When I first became away of this case, I've been saying the same thing. I want all of the all of the clients identified and prosecuted. But that doesn't mean that everybody that was in Epstein's orbit, that doesn't mean everybody was involved in the whole operation of the pedophilia stuff. That's understandable that we see right now. There's a massive trend of people in America that just don't want to believe it, but will not entertain it. Well, believe what. That quote unquote president entertainers are doing demonic behavior things with children on that island. We should need to be discussing nothing. I don't even I'm not aware of anybody. Well, hang on, Corey, I don't know anybody that's that refuses to believe that Epstein did those things. I'm not I've never encountered for refusing. You have people that are denial that a possible president could be included, and the denial. Is see, okay, So now what you're doing, though, is you're saying that the operation that Epstein was running, that that that anybody around him then is automatically part of that operation. No, I'm saying, there are people who do not believe that this is an issue. Who this we I don't have Tom Mary Jane Susan's name. It's public. We all see it. You just had a collar. They said, there's nothing to see here the story. Well this story. No, no, he said this story that this story isn't nothing. Here is something worth talking about. I've obviously spent over an hour talking about it, so I agree with you there, right, But what I'm trying to do is figure out what your point here is because it sounds like. Is this okay? Go ahead. I'm gonna make it very simple. Yeah, please do. We're talking about children being done wrong by a bunch of adults that are hiding behind political theater. Get the list out so we can get these demonic people out of here. So the uh, the Attorney General's office, the DOJ, Alan Dershowitz, the lawyer for Epstein, they've all said there is no list. But you don't believe they're right. So you think they're okay, Yes, sir, I think they're well. And that lines up. I mean that would line up if you have any kind of preconceived idea of who's involved, then yes, But like it's completely believable to me that they would not keep a list. Now, I think they probably have incriminating videos. I think they have evidence of people, right, I think they because the whole that whole Pedophile Island building was raked up with cameras and stuff. So they've probably got all sorts of videos of people. Now who are they? Why haven't they've been charged? I'm with you on that. And look, if Trump is on any of the videos, then that then yeah, he should burn for it too. But it doesn't sound right. But but here's the thing. Why wouldn't they have put this out over the last decade when they smeared him with the Steele dossier, which was false? If you had true things like this, why wouldn't you have divulged it and take the guy out a decade ago? Okay, Well, my belief is this because when political party switch in power, they're covered their own by all means. This has been going on the way before me and you was even born in this political game. So to me, I'm not just letting a pull of curtains over my eyes. The Democrats on that list, there's recookies on that list, they're all spoken. Why would somebody obviously leaked this story about the letter with the writing the birthday letter? Somebody in DOJ leaked this story right to the Wall Street Journal, And so why wouldn't they have leaked If there's evidence and they have seen the evidence that Trump was a participant in the operations in the pedophilia all of that, why wouldn't they have done it when they have been leaking NonStop against Trump for the decade. That doesn't make sense to no that doesn't know. That doesn't because there are leftists inside the DOJ that obviously want to hurt Trump, and they've been trying to do so for a decade. So why would it just start now with Epstein? It just doesn't make sense. That it's a leftist or is it speculation that it's a leftist? There are leftists inside DOJ that have been leaking information, leaking things to harm Donald Trump. Batu or speculatory, that's. Not a word, but it's factual. People have been leaking against Trump. All right, that's it? All right, there you go. Here's a great idea. 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And maybe we find out, maybe we don't, but whatever comes out, if anything, is not going to satisfy a large chunk of the population because a lot of times, you know, the conspiracy theories are too much fun, and when people have drawn lines in the sand and they've said this is what really happened, I know what's going on, they can't move off those lines. They don't want to admit that they were wrong about something, or they have preconceived prejudices and such, and so they're not going to move off of their positions. So the conspiracies will will never die. So I can talk about the different theories that are out there, and I can ask all of the questions. And to me, one of the biggest ones that I just asked Corey because Corey seemed to indicate that he thought that the president is implicated in the Epstein trafficking ring, Well, I've seen no evidence to prove that. So but you know, if you've got evidence, then let's see it. And the big question that I keep asking is if you had this evidence for the last decade against you know, literally Hitler, the threat to democracy to the point where you were fabricating all sorts of other stories about Trump over the last decade, why wouldn't you have used something that was actually real? Right, So John says, even Eric Erickson doesn't think that that letter sounds like Trump. Eric Erickson's not a big Trump guy. Email from Thomas, who says, subject line more Epstein again, love your show, but tired of hearing about Epstein's story again. Best part of your broadcast version is the DODA DA theatrical highlight. Oh you mean this? It always makes me laugh. You are probably close to the truth that he was involved with international political or criminal activities. His two thousand and eight sentence of eighteen months surely indicated that he was connected and protected. It has been so long and so mixed up that the truth has been buried so deep. The real truth may never be known. All the documents released won't matter in the long run. Dead Men Tell No Tales is how the game ends. Yeah, and that's what makes it, you know, unfulfilling, but also gives the story legs in perpetuity. It will continue on because of that. Dennis says, I for a long time have thought that there are two types of politicians in DC, the caught and the uncaught. That's fair. Another message. You referred to any potential customers of Epstein and Maxwell's as John's. Where do you get off stereotyping a whole section of people based on their names? I am insulted. I am so mad, signed John. Let me see here, this is from pretty lengthy here. I might have to wait to read that, Timotheo, because that's a pretty lengthy comment there. This is from Drew. Two things about this new bombshell Epstein report Number one, It sounds like somebody trying to extort something I e. Faked maybe by Epstein himself. What the letter is faked by Epstein? It was compiled by Maxwell, So I don't know. Could this have been done to ruin the reputation of the Wall Street Journal by getting them to publish this without authentication? Also, Russia isn't low enough to do something to distract Trump and his administration. Look, this is this is also part of it, right, This is part of the This would be part of the political dynamic going on here is that now this story comes out right timed for the maximum impact. Now, maybe somebody had this document or knew about it or something, and all of the Epstein stuff in the news recently prompted them to finally break their silence and divulge information from an investigation of over you know, fifteen years ago or something. Yeah, maybe maybe that's what did it, Or maybe it's timed to drive the wedge to double down, to keep splintering and fracturing the magabase and to keep Trump and his administration talking about this story. When they want to talk about all of their successes. 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This is how Democrats completely missed the fact that Biden and Democrats were in power before Trump took office for a second time, and could have released the Epstein files while they were fighting to save democracy itself from literally Hitler by any means possible. Releasing some paperwork would seem to fall under the by any means possible, but the fact that they didn't would indicate that there was nothing to tie Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. From the other direction, there comes a near rabid charge by hardcore magas steeped in naievete I never know how to pronounce that word. To exact justice for every pervert found on the Epstein client list. If it actually exists, they demand that these clients be brought to justice, without any idea of how justice would be achieved. It is as if they believed that a monster capable of pimping out children would be of sufficient character as to never tell a lie. If that list actually exists, there is no way to know if any person who appears on it is actually guilty of being a client. Alan Dershowitz is a prime example of this, having been named as a client and proving in court that the accusation was false. Right, And this is what I was talking about earlier. Actually, Epstein had a black book. It was an address book, a contacts book, but everybody was in there, all of his contacts were and Dershowitz was a lawyer for him. And he had met Dershowitz because he wanted to go to Israel. He had never been, and so he knew nobody, and so he asked to be put in contact with people whatever. So that's how Dershwitz ended up in this book. And then Epstein used him as his lawyer. And this then when his name got outed, some woman accused him of being part of the ring, and then she later recanted, said she made it all up and she was troubled. Right, she was a troubled person, and he showed in court that the accusation was false. The same could be true for any person who shows up on that list. But then again, it doesn't really matter if they are innocent or not. It has to be proven that they are guilty. And until it has been proven they then any entity that publishes their names with the accusation will be committing libel and find themselves being student. Well, you can public if they get charged. Yeah, if they get charged. And that's that's the thing. Like, did Epstein keep a separate list? Like here are the people that I have compromised, you know, here are the people that participated in the illegal activities, and then these are the people that I was acting as a bagman for intel agencies to fund covert projects that their governments didn't want them to be right, Like, I don't know, but he keeps separate lists. That sounds pretty That does not seem secure, But maybe he did as insurance right, he could have every success of Trump. This is back to Timoteo's message. Every success of Trump's second administration will be ignored in favor of coverage of constant lawsuits and conspiracies over what Epstein files Trump didn't release, because lord knows, no amount of transparency will ever be enough. Democrats have found in maga's naive demand for justice their own Russia collusion two point zero where twenty four to seven. Until November twenty twenty eight, the only coverage in mainstream media will be about Trump and the cover up of the Epstein files. Let me see here, this is an eighth three number. I don't believe Trump was involved because of exactly the point you are making, which was why did they not release any of this stuff earlier to prevent him from winning? Why do you think Epstein's girlfriend is still alive? I raised that same question earlier. I don't know. It doesn't It doesn't make sense to me. If Epstein did not kill himself, if he was whacked because of what he knew and who he was going to take down with him, she would be able to do the same. But she's still alive, right, So that's that's odd. Have you considered that maybe Gleane Maxwell is the asset and he was not, and this could be the reason she is still alive. That's possible too, right because her dad. The texter here points out that her father look at his father or her father, Yeah, he was a shady guy. Maxwell was. He was all connected to intelligence services and stuff. So it's possible that she was an asset. Although now she's in prison, so I don't know. Let's see here, I'm trying to get through. There's a bunch of texts here, Kenny from mint Hill. Isn't it interesting that the UK was the first to cut a tariff deal and then the Epstein files became uninteresting? Maybe a side deal to protect the royal family. I am a Trump supporter, but Trump is a deal maker. That's interesting. That's a theory. Yeah, maybe they maybe used it to pressure the UK into doing a tariff deal, like you know, we got these EPs files and such whatever. I don't know, but they've been saying that for Trump ran on this. I mean, people all around Trump World we're talking about, you know, we're going to release all the Epstein files and stuff. I see here. I'm trying to get like, this interface is is not the best? Doesn't the FA require flight plans including passenger manifest to be filed for every flight yes. In fact, it's in the Wall Street Journal article, which we've already known about Epstein and Trump spent time together. Here it is spokes Yeah, because Trump or Clinton was on the flights too. Maybe I don't think I highlighted the part of this. It's a very lengthy story, but it's in there, and it talks about the number of flights that Trump appeared on. There was like four of them, like twenty five twenty eight years ago or something, and then like one in the next year, one in the next year, and one in the next year. But they were always from Florida up to New York. So yeah, but the flight logs, I don't know if Yeah, Trump along with others including Clinton, appeared several times on flight logs, according to two thousand and two. And then they do over there Trump had the falling out. Then yeah, well it's listed in here, but they a lot of the flight logs are known. So oh, and now I'm accused of is this one here towing the company line? I don't even know what that means? What's the company line on this? I feel like I've gone over every single angle you could see in this story. Well, what do I know? All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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