To punish media, I'll vote for Trump (09-05-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, thank you so much for your support. We are still awaiting

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: developments out of California

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: IA where Hunter Biden

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: apparently his attorneys have offered

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: To have their client take an Alfred plea

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Mentioned this in the last hour

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: An Alfred plea is named after Alfred. I don't know his first name, but no it's well. Yes

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an Alfred a L F or D Alford plea and it means that he accepts a guilty verdict

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But maintains his innocence and so it avoids a trial which I think is really the point and to give the DOJ

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Daddy's DOJ the opportunity to offer him some sort of a slap on the wrist sentence

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know because remember the judge does not have to accept it

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The judge doesn't have to accept the plea arrangement

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if both of the parties involved have come to it the judge can say no and

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I came across

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see here one of the lawyers he does a lot of defense work

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: for the

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: For a lot of the the J6ers

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The people that got swept up by law enforcement after January 6th and these are

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Nonviolent people that were like outside waving a flag, you know

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They get the book thrown at him. He posts on Twitter. I forget his real name

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just saw it come down and he posts under

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: the Twitter handle of shipwrecked crew and

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: 22 years as a federal prosecutor and defense attorney for 55 plus January 6th defendants

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He pointed out here a couple minutes ago

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That Alfred please require consent from the Department of Justice, right?

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He says in 21 years at the DOJ. I never heard of a case where DOJ consented ever

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: DOJ policy is that for a defendant to plead guilty the defendant must make a factual admission of

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: guilt

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They've got to say it

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: DOJ policy is to not allow somebody to plead

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What you know air quote guilty while not admitting factual guilt

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they never wanted to be on the record that this person didn't actually say they were guilty

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: No, we're charging you your guilty or if you can get acquitted then you are found not guilty

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are your options here. We're not taking the Alfred thing so

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We shall see there's an update on that

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: As I said, I think he's taken the fall right now

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna try to get him as sweet of a deal as they can before daddy has to leave and

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know then let all of that that poop storm swirl as Joe

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know hits the exits

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I had submitted for publication an op-ed

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: To the blaze

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's this was something I had been

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of turning over in my head for a while and

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: When I was a reporter for about nine years here at WBT

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Never had to tell people how I voted or even whether I voted right?

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I could always say, you know, it's a secret ballot. You don't need to know for whom I have voted

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: As a report and there is a debate inside journalism that

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: There are people that are reporters and journalists who say that they shouldn't be voting at all that as a reporter or journalist

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You should not vote

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're covering these people, especially if you're you know covering politics or politicians. You should not be voting

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Never subscribed to that position

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought in fact, I knew more about these topics and about

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: governance and

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The people involved the politicians running and so I felt like no I'm I'm like super informed. I should be voting

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: When I became a host though, I learned very quickly that people were interested to know for whom I was voting

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't make endorsements. I don't tell people that you should go vote for somebody

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna make your own decisions on

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: who you vote for and why and so I caught a lot of

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Heat over the last

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Seven years and even before then but really well my entire time as a host. I have gotten a lot of

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: criticism because when it comes to the presidential ballots

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I have never voted for a Republican and I have never voted for a Democrat for president

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I've always left that ballot spot either blank or I voted for the libertarian. I

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Have had many many arguments over the years. You've probably heard one or two of them

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Which case I'm sorry

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But you've probably heard these arguments that I have made in the debates

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I've had with people who tried to embarrass me or shame me and guilt me and pressure me

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: To vote for their candidate

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and they make the argument that a vote for like Gary Johnson the libertarian candidate a vote for him is

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Throwing your vote away

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And I disagree it. It is literally a vote for Gary Johnson

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If I leave it blank, they say you're throwing your vote away. I

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Disagree I don't have to give somebody my vote

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I can withhold support and it is my protest

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's my protest of the candidates that the two parties have selected to put up before me and

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like either of them

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is what I did in the last election

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2020 in 2016 I

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Voted for Gary Johnson. I believe I think it was yeah Gary Johnson was right and then

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then I think he ran again in 2020 but he had

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just like yeah, I wasn't happy with him either now. Maybe I'm too demanding that's possible

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That is very possible. I am a single person

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Casting a single protest vote. I recognize it's

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: ineffectiveness I recognize

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's minute if any impact on anybody or anything I get it

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I totally get it

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is not throwing a vote away and even like a

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Worst argument was that oh a vote if I vote for Gary Johnson

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a vote for Hillary Clinton when it is literally not a vote for Hillary Clinton

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It is literally not a vote for Donald Trump. It is literally a vote for Gary Johnson, right?

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a vote for somebody else

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The only way you could consider that to be a vote for somebody else is if you are expecting me to vote

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: For the person you want me to vote for but

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Because like for example, you're seeing this with RFK junior on the ballot

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: People are getting very mad that RFK in fact. I just saw

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: A judge today said RFK juniors got to stay on the ballot in North Carolina

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and people think though that's gonna take votes away from Trump as if they were

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They were

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know required to go to him

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: See because if I were to say to people and I would usually get this argument from Trump supporters over the last seven years

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Last two election cycles where I said, you know, I'm gonna vote for Johnson or I'm not gonna vote for anybody

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They would say well then

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't vote for Gary Johnson. You shouldn't vote for you shouldn't abstain or leave it blank

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't do that

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I said okay. Well the alright fine. I'll you've convinced me. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for Hillary Clinton

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, you can't do that. Oh wait a minute. Oh, okay. So wait a minute so

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: so your argument is is not actually based on any kind of

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Philosophical foundation it's based on an ends justify the means kind of a thing

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's based on this idea that you believe my vote is ordained to go to Donald Trump and

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: disagree

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's been the argument that I have been having for seven years plus actually longer than that ever since I've been a radio host

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: people want to know for whom I am voting they want to know why and

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get to

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get to duck the question

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So and look

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know arguing against Donald Trump in 2015 2016 during the primaries

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a very difficult thing to do I had long conversations with my boss at the time

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the concern was I was going to alienate the audience that was I thought pretty clearly in the Trump camp and

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to hear any of this

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to hear my arguments against Donald Trump and me trying to convince people that he's not a good standard bearer

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna lose and all of this all this other stuff and so

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But he said no, no, don't worry about it

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know if it's your opinion, that's fine

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But still like you always know as a radio host if your ratings plummet then

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna you're gonna be out of a job, but I made that decision for myself. I talked with my wife about it, right like I

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Went in with eyes wide open

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: In 2020 same deal

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: my core first principle is

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: believe in

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The role of the press to hold government accountable

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my primary philosophy and my core principle there is the media the the press is essential in our Republic and

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: What I know is that the press will go after Donald Trump. I know that with certainty

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: indictments and

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Media coverage prove it, right? I

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Also know

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Considering what I have seen in the last six weeks seven weeks, whatever

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually longer with the decline the the cognitive decline of one Joe Biden and the media not covering that and then

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: participating in

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The palace coup to install Kamala Harris Kamala Harris is I

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Know also with certainty. They are not going to hold her accountable. They're not doing it now

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So go back to my first principle

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Media must hold government accountable and that's how I have now reluctantly ended up in the position

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I am not happy about that I got a vote for Donald Trump

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not happy about it

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll go over here to Chris. Hello Chris welcome to the show

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you skinny Pete you beautiful man. I just

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You're making me uncomfortable tears

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: What's that?

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you blushing I'm almost in tears over here man because I've been so respectful of your show and you're reasonable minded

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I just want to fall over when I hear you say well

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't vote like I listened to your show and everybody that listened to your show

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's your perspective and you do the job of the media supposed to be doing and it's very clear

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: What's up and what's down and then you throw me for such a loop and I am I know

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You're entitled to the way you approach it and I'm not going to take anything away from you

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think I've told you this before my son is in the Marines and I desperately want his life to be

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Impact when he's done with his time

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying it to guarantee the Trump wins that he's gonna survive

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think it increases his odds greatly and I just want to say thank you man

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you do your impact is in your in your reach is larger than you think

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I I can go and I can talk to my checkout lady when I'm at the grocery store

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can ask her what you know what she can we talk about her boat?

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I can do these things but you're talking to

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Hundreds of thousands of these people simultaneously and everybody sees you as a reasonable minded man

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you say you're not voting for Trump that gives other reasonable minded people like myself

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We sit there we question ourselves or like what the hell why am I like one of my missing and it's so for you to come around

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciate it and I just want to say thank you. I thank you. Thank you

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean you don't need to thank me and look this way reasonable people can disagree

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because I you know like

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Chocolate chip ice cream doesn't mean you have to like chocolate chip ice cream, right? We don't have to a little more impactful though

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I well, I don't know tell that to Joe Biden and Tim Walls. They seem to be very interested in the flavor of ice cream

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No, and I recognize the responsibility that I've got

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I do recognize that you know the the audience size then and when I talk about this stuff

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I always you know say I'm trying to provide

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: information and arguments for people so they can use them

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: When they find themselves in similar arguments in their own lives, right?

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's a big part of why I do the show the way I do the show

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Do a good job. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. That's what I strive to do

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know the the arguments though that over the voting it and I did vote

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Except for 2020

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I left that race blank

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But I leave races blank if I like for example if I go in and I see

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody who's running unopposed if I don't like that candidate. I'm not gonna vote for him

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna give them that that that vote of approval because they because the campaigns know this stuff

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They track voter erosion ballot erosion

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called where people will vote at the top of the ticket and then they stop voting as they work their way down

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: The ballot, you know

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So the campaigns and the parties the consultants they they comb over all this data

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: so they are aware of you know people I did at one time there was a guy running in an office out west in the

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Asheville area and

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: His state legislative district was identical that the boundaries were identical to a county commission district

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And he received fewer votes and there were fewer votes cast in that

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: State legislative race then the county commission race which was below it on the ballot

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Which tells you that I that people jumped over that they they passed over that race and still voted in that same district

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And they voted for the Republican in that county commissioner race

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And that tells you that wasn't just people walking out of the voting booth before they voted right?

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They they literally skipped his race. They would not vote for the guy. That's a candidate problem, right?

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've seen similar just last election when Robinson got more votes for attorney general then

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Cooper got for governor, right?

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the guy and the guy who got the most amount of votes in the statewide race was Steve Troxler

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The agriculture commissioner

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So right which is further down the list on the ballot and so the campaigns and the parties and the consultants

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They know this they see the data which is why I cast I use that vote at the

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: In the presidential race the no vote as a register

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Registration of disapproval for both of the candidates. I was not happy with either of them

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to see either of them in there. I wanted us to turn the page and move on

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I look and I lost look I've never voted for a candidate for president who has won

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So be careful what you wish for Trump supporters because now I with my

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Vote now I may just have tanked Trump's chances. That's that's all you can do though

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I can do what you can do where we really appreciate you out here in Cabarrus County like I get nervous

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who these judges are who am I even voting for they've got out here

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But they make this a yellow sheet

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's called and the candidates who make that the people that make that I trust and support and

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: When they're on that yellow sheet out here, you've got like a 95 percent chance of being elected

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So those those are very powerful pieces of tools for these people

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But man again Pete, thank you for your show. Thank you for your time

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for your reasonable approach to life and that you know

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I that I can sit back and feel better about myself

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Knowing Pete can't even Pete calendar is gonna go ahead and vote for Trump. Okay

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But keep in mind why the why matters

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir because the media will hold him accountable. Okay, Chris. I appreciate the kind words. Yeah, I appreciate the kind words

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for listening. Thanks for the call. Appreciate that. All right real quick

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[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I had an op-ed that published at the blaze calm. They rewrote the headline

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it hang on a second

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It said they they gave the headline from never Trump which I wasn't but from never Trump to reluctant vote

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: One man's media protest is the headline

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the sub headline is a a Kamala Harris defeat would punish the media and the Democrats for their corrupt actions

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I did say that that's the reason I have no confidence in the media to hold a Harris walls

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Administration accountable. I have every confidence that the media will continue

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's deranged. Yes bias. Yes

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: their efforts to hold Trump accountable to

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: examine everything that guy does

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no doubt they will continue doing that none at all and

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, my first principle is the media's job is to hold government accountable. That's it

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're supposed to do

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we can't be informed enough to make decisions about

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Charting our path as a society unless we know what the hell's going on

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And if I've got media that's not telling me what's going on and is actively participating in covering up things that are going on

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, then I can't change all the media but I can rob them of the vehicle that they are using

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not endorsing any kind of criminal activity. It's a rhetorical robbing. Okay. It's not real robbing

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: David welcome to the program. Hello, David

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey Pete, I tell you a lot of what you said in the last few minutes has really resonated with me

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It got so bad because you know people reach out to me want to know who do you voting for who should I vote for?

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It got to where I started rating them based on how many shots of tequila it would take for me to vote for that guy

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know we're lady. That's a decent system. That's a pretty decent system. Yeah

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you know, I kind of conveyed the thought you know the idea

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But I tell you what a wasted vote is a wasted vote is where you step in that ballot box

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You vote for someone or something that goes against your conscience and against your values and principles

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a wasted vote the question is it's which one of these jack wagons is actually gonna represent me

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know we I think we know neither one of them because it comes down

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like a professional sports environment, you know at the end of the day

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They're kind of part of the same league

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Hit it against each other and as long as the sponsors are represented during during the role play and at the end of

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The game that's all that matters and it said that has come to that

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean you really you really you really kind of reflect on what's been going on through my head the last few months

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was kind of leaning hard towards Kennedy personally and I want to endorse Trump

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know this guy never was my first choice

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But I can't I just not know I can't vote for for that the Democrat

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Propaganda basically that the Democrat model is just not me

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Are the Republicans my favors a heck no no, you know

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an opposition vote, you know, so yeah, I'm comfortable with it

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't regret it. I I don't think but I'm

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you man. It's it's like you just gotta

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You can take Reagan's 80-20 rule you just step in there

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You do the thing you go home and you just hope for the best, you know

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you David? Thanks for the call man. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. All right. Yes, sir. You too

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a email

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: From Dennis along the same lines there. I think something that David just mentioned

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Would it make life more simple for us voters if during election years all the politicians had to wear uniforms like the NASCAR drivers that display

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The decals of all the sponsors that they really work for, right?

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Scott says I was just getting into the truck to head home for lunch

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But did I hear that you're voting for Trump? If so good for you buddy

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm helping the Russian hackers and voting for him too since the White House seems to think is happening

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then this is from hang on. Let me scroll down from

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Christopher I

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Can understand not being a Republican slash Democrat Party candidate supporter

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I voted libertarian in 76 after Reagan failed to be nominated

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I also voted for Perot in 92. I wrote in Rick Santorum in 2012

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I opposed Trump at first believing he had been put up to run by David Axelrod and Obama

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Disabotage Cruz's candidacy. I

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Agreed with a Hispanic Texan talk show caller who said he had switched from Cruz to Trump solely because the media would have destroyed Cruz

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know about that like that the argument that anybody else besides Trump would have folded like I don't believe that

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really buy that I

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's hypothetical no nobody knows how people are gonna react to this stuff and also

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know nobody has gotten the amount of stuff that Trump has gotten

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Donald Trump gives his enemies plenty of ammo. He gives them openings all the time

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Other candidates don't have that kind of baggage

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't they don't have the kinds of

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Issues that Donald Trump has

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So he creates a target-rich environment for his for his opponents

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway back to the email he says I've done a lot of growing

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Over Nixon Ford Perot bush 41 bush 43 McCain Romney our system depends for its survival on

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Initiative from the citizenry. I simply can't see how sitting there and just yelling no no no helps us

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Civic virtue if I may is a man stepping up enacting to solve a problem not letting his

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Being imperfect deter him from doing what he sees is needed if you believe things can be greatly improved

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Why aren't you putting forward your own reform program? I?

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of feel like I

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Literally do that all day long. I mean I do it on the air. I do it on Twitter. I

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Do it in appearances I

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Do it at the local level

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm engaged and involved in

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Low, you know local governance and and civic organizations, so I got a charitable work

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like I do that at a personal level but

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, tell us who is the perfect candidate in Trump's place. Well, there is no perfect candidate in

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Trump's place. There's no perfect candidate period

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're all people and people are imperfect. What do I always say do not fall in love with politicians?

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They will break your heart. I

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Believe that I live by that. I don't fall in love with politicians

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They are people we hire

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right to go someplace and get us stuff

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it like it's a transactional relationship

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Now my stuff is not monetary right my stuff is not you know

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Go take from the rich and bring it to me for you know, whatever kinds of programs or services

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I want them to you know be constitutional defenders like I want them to rein in government spending like he but that's

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the point of sending somebody there to do that. Did Donald Trump do that? Not really

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Now he spent like crazy too

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But every Republican has

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not holding him to a higher standard

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't bash him unfairly

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Compared to other Republicans that have been in his place you ask who is a perfect candidate

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: There isn't one who would I prefer? I thought I made that pretty clear in

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: 2016 I preferred Rand Paul and then Ted Cruz and

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't have any other alternative in 2020 right but in this year. I would have preferred Ron DeSantis

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's actually done this stuff. He's got a track record

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a philosophy that lines up more closely to me. Do I

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he do know wrong? Of course not there are things about him that I don't I don't think is helpful as a candidate or or a leader but I

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Would have preferred him so

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you have to lose

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: If I recall Clinton won with only 24% of the eligible voters votes Trump surprised the

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: pollsters in 16 by inspiring enough previous non-registered to register

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That suggests elections may be be termed may be determined as much as or more than by how many vote

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The survival of our system depends on people picking up the gauntlet and acting all the while knowing that if they

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait for someone who is perfect to do it. They will be way again. I'm not arguing for perfection

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who has ever listened to my show knows this. I'm I don't argue for a perfect candidate

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's never been my criticism of Donald Trump that he's not perfect and that's the extreme

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Side of that argument. Oh, well just because you know, he's done X and Y and Z and then a BCD

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: EFT like there comes a point where you have enough of these things that become problematic

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I recognize it makes people not feel comfortable voting for the guy and me pointing that out doesn't mean I hate the guy

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate him. I don't love them

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: again

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My beef is with media my beef is with the press that has completely

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: abdicated and

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: corrupted their responsibility here

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We see it and I went through this in the op-ed

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That all of the different ways the weaponization of the steel dossier and the fabrication of the steel dossier the

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Corrupted FBI crossfire hurricane operation the denial and the burying of the hunter-biden laptop story and what it meant for our national security

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: The the whole fine people on both sides lie the lie that supposedly was why Joe Biden

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Ran for office ran for the presidency and no reporter has ever asked him to explain

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: How the hell he came to that conclusion when

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Trump clearly didn't say that thing that Biden believes he said and nobody ever held him accountable for it. I

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Believe the media will not hold Harrison Walls accountable for anything. I

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Know they will with Donald Trump because they are deranged

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All right

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[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Christopher sent a follow-up saying I didn't mean to get too passionate in that email as far as I know

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You're the best guy in the air. No, I know I don't take any of this stuff personally

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I've developed a very very thick skin

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it makes for very uncomfortable doctors appointments when I get shots just it's one of the downsides

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello Cohen welcome to the program Cohen. What's up?

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you Pete. I love you show me. Thank you, sir

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to let you know that I'm a registered independent and Vietnam better

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome home and when I heard about the vice president on the left

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: saying stuff about he was in war and all this stuff if it

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Sealed the deal for me to vote for Trump advance

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm calling all my family and friends in my contact in my phone

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And I got a lot because I was in business for ten years and had a lot of clients

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm calling them all and asking them to please vote for Trump advance and to spread the word with their president family

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is because of Tim governor Tim Walz is

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Claims to have gone into combat when he hadn't

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know my best friend going to high school with was over in Vietnam when I was he got killed his tenth day in country

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm and

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know where the betters are serious about oh, yeah things that you know

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, I'm aware. I grew up my dad's a Vietnam veteran Marine Corps like I'm well aware

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is hard. Yeah

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So color bed

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. Thanks for the call sir. I appreciate you

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your show. I appreciate you. Well, thanks. Thanks for your service. That's Cohen

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He I think that's Cohen he of promo fame

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah on the promos

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph says why do you have to vote for anybody I vote for who leftists hate?

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care who it is if I'm not beholden to any principles

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I vote for who my mortal enemy doesn't want to win

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Trump may be a narcissistic boob, but he has forced the crazy commies to drop the mask now

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We all can see who we are up against knowing is half the battle

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: G hi Joe, that's true

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Another Joseph says

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Pete male. He's going to try to make that happen. He's totally trying to make that a thing

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay as a Christian I think do Democrats wish I didn't exist the answer is obvious with Trump

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's does he support anything? I stand for it the answer is obvious, but at least he is okay with my existence

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Look I understand too

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That because I I am not lacking in self-awareness if anything. I'm probably a little too critical

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But I recognize that there is a degree here if not a very large one somewhat a degree of

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Rationalization I get it right that

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like I'm it's not like I went about trying to find a reason to vote for Donald Trump

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying I'm trying to send a message just as I have done with my votes in all of the years

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Past for every presidential race

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But this message is for the media because here's what I wrote at the at the blaze

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I said my first principle is the belief that the press must hold the government accountable. I

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Have no faith it will do so if Harris wins absolutely none

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Additionally a Harris defeat would punish the media and the Democrats for their corrupt actions. I know of no other way

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: This too will be a single ineffectual one-person protest vote, but it's mine and

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: For that reason I'll vote for Donald Trump even if I'm not happy about it

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's it

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a vote against the media behaving as it has the corruption that I have witnessed not just in government

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But in media all of those examples I gave and I covered those things as they were occurring

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the steel dossier stuff if you know people were listening to me up in Asheville at the time. I

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Was covering that stuff deeply

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: For years as you know drip drip drip little pieces of information come out and go back and reset the table and you know

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now what does this tell us and people here's Robert Mueller and his

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Investigation and I remember Trump supporters saying this is all you know a

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Persecution it's a witch hunt and all this and I said let him do the let him do the investigation

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what he has to say and then of course it comes out

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like well, this isn't anything and then we learn other stuff and then we get the hunter-biden laptop more recently

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's too much this isn't normal media folks. This is not normal your behavior here is not acceptable

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't change you I implore you to change but I can't change you I recognize like we are

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We are the only ones who can change ourselves

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to be better, you've got to want to be better. You got to want to do better

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So I can't change you

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I can point you in a different direction

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Rather than having you

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You know cater to one candidate I can turn you and point you at the one that you hate is

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That the best thing for the country probably not

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not but it's the closest thing that I can approximate to

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Holding government accountable because I know you won't do it with Harris. All right, that'll do it for this episode

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