Third Worldism and elite over-production | Hour 3
The Pete Kaliner ShowApril 24, 202600:32:3722.44 MB

Third Worldism and elite over-production | Hour 3

This episode is presented by Create A Video – What is "Third Worldism" and how is it related to our current political climate and discourse? And how does this mindset relate to an over-production of Americans who believe they are entitled to membership in the elite class... but fail to gain access? Plus, Pre-Gaming With Brett Winterble!

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What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily show prep with all of the links, become a patron, go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for your support. Alrighty, So the other day I mentioned the term. People ask me about it, and so I'm going to go a little bit deeper into this term. It's called third worldism. Third worldism, okay, because if you understand what that is, you can now see it being applied in various ways of thinking and in arguments and ideologies. Okay, So the term, this expression was first coined by a guy named Alfred I saw THEE in nineteen fifty two. Right. This is according to a writer, Zeneb Rebua. I've quoted her frequently. She's done a lot of work in the last month and a half or so regarding like Iran and the Iranian regime and stuff, and so third world ism. This is the expression of third world nineteen fifty two. It was used to describe a category of countries situated outside the dominant Cold War blocks, and from that point an entire body of political thought developed around this concept. Okay, when you hear people talk about a multipolar world, we need to get back to multipolarity. Right. What those people are advocating for is another superpower to fight US America. Right. We had that with the Cold War. We had the Kami's and we had the freedom loving, awesome countries, right, but there were a group of countries that didn't really you know, want to hook their wagons to either block. Okay, and so that's the third world. And so this idea started, you know, decades ago, and now you've got people that are arguing for this very same model to be reapplied. And so they are rooting for America to be taken down some pegs, to have somebody to to have to worry about in their hope. And it's China, you know, maybe even throw in Russia and Iran. Right, those three countries aligned and they would be the counterweight against the free world. Okay, that's number one. There is also a connection to Islamism okay, and she goes on to say Islamism, in its doctrinal core, demands a fully ordered society ruled by religious law. That's in its documents. Okay. I've had Raymond Ibrahim on the show. He's done work on this topic for decades. He has his own YouTube show that he's been doing, like within the last year he started this thing up or it's called the Holy War Channel. And in it and he has described in Islam, you've got, you know, five categories of things, like it's very legalistic, okay, very prescriptive for you know, how you are supposed to behave There are like five categories of everything in your life. There there are things that you should do or sorry, at the top is things that you are required to do. Then there are things that you should do but are not required. Then there are neutral things, and then there are things that you shouldn't do but it's probably best that you don't. And then there are things that you totally can't do, okay, and that people refer to this as sharia law, right Sharia, she writes for Islamists, or she says, sorry, let me back up. In Western Europe, secularism set formal limits but Islamists treat these limits as tools for adaptation and infiltration rather than genuine barriers. In other words, they use the you know, our own systems, our own freedoms. They use those in order to gain advantage, to to infiltrate, to influence. Right, she says, they cleverly mask their ambitions in the language of human rights, minority protections, anti discrimination, and that allows them to maneuver inside secular systems. They readily align with segments of the radical left around shared enemies, enabling tactical coordination without ever abandoning their ultimate goals. Most dangerously, they provide a ready made playbook of resistance quote unquote that fuels mobilization and justifies violence. Okay, that's what the left. That's what the left provides, a ready made playbook of resistance, mobilization and a justification for violence, all of which we have seen increase. Right. This is the Red Green Alliance. This is These are the two camps that worked to overthrow the Shah and install the install Iatola Komani in Iran back in nineteen seventy nine. Right second, she says, modern political Islamism maintains a clear direction. It wages a total critique in the Heygalian sense or in the Marxist sense. You know, this is where like critical theory, critical race theory, that's where the critique is what that's all about. And there's never a critique of Islam. There's never a critique of communism or socialism. It's always a critique or criticism of the West right, constantly tearing it down, demoralizing the people so they won't defend their own society. They focus on modernity, they focus on liberalism, they focus on the West, all branded as symptoms of Western civilizational decay. And by the way, this now brings in this third world ism brings in the horseshoe right, people like Tucker Carlson, right Ian Carol Nick Fouentes, Like these are the people that, by the way, did you notice that like four of these trans write influencers, they were all off air this week right after the SPLC story broke, Like Candice Owens was out and like didn't tell her audience. She's like, oh, I forgot to say I'm on vacation or something for a week. And it's like you have a whole team of like publicists and stuff that like push all this stuff out for you. You don't run your own Twitter account, Like, what how did that get past everybody? That you just forgot to tell everybody you're traveling for a week. Nick Fouentes was off fair. He's traveling in Rome for some reason, just happened to go over to Rome. Didn't tell anybody. I and Carol was the other guy. Myron Gaines I think was out too, like for some reason, just all of a sudden, very weird. I'm just asking questions. That's the horseshoe right, demoralizers tearing down the West, And in Tucker Carlson's case, for example, there's this strange, mad respect for Islamic countries. It's very weird it's going on there. This contempt extends to the westernized individual and to the West itself as a symbol of corruption. The same judgment falls on Muslims societies that have succumbed to Western influence. Right, they will attack Muslim countries, the governments, the leadership. If they are too Western, they'll be branded as complicit, degenerate and therefore legitimate targets for destruction. And third, the Islamist direction converges perfectly with third worldist thinking, the West is cast as the ultimate adversary and the supreme reference point for all evil, while every local grievance is absorbed into this grand vision of global resistance. Islamism slots neatly into a larger anti imperialist framework that is obsessed with delivering absolute historical justice. This is why they make common cause. It's precisely why the Green activists find so much common ground with Hesbelah, to the point where they're openly displaying affinity for these terrorist groups. Right the shared enemy and the shared narrative make the alliance feel natural. In the US, several dynamics explain the re emergence of third worldism. I will get to that in a moment. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. 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So Zenebribua in this piece. This appeared at her website Zenebribua dot com. And by the way, I post all of these links on my Patreon page. You can see them for free. So if you want to go read all of the write up on this stuff and go deeper, you can go to patreon dot com. Search for my name. It's Pete Calender k A l I n E R. There is no d in Calendar and then you can find the link there all right. So in the US, several dynamics explain the reemergence of Third world ism. The first is the institutionalization of this ideology within universities. Okay, the study of decolonization, right, like this is this is essential to understanding all of world history, Okay, and so there's so much focus on that in the academy, and so that helps to install this way of thinking into the young skulls of mush. The second is the exhaustion of domestic progressive politics. She says, political campaigns centered on identity have reached a point of fatigue in the United States. Right, it's it's not working anymore. Right, people are are fed up with you know, all of the you know, identity politics and all that stuff. They continue to shape discourse while their capacity to mobilize has weakened. This is where third world ism introduces a different register. Political energy moves from the individual to the global, and a structural reading of power regains prominence. Right, it's all about power dynamics on the left, That's what it's all about, because that's what Marxism is all about. Power dynamics, oppressor oppressed. That's it. Well, and envy. The third reason this is re emerged the expansion of anti Israelism within a wider ideological field Israel appears as the place where American power becomes nakedly visible. A concentrated symbol of global hierarchies and domination, it becomes a fixation. Fourth dynamic can be found in the weakening of national political reference points. She says, the old distinction between domestic and foreign affairs is collapsing. Only global narratives now supply the master frame through which every local issue is interpreted and judged. She goes on to say later in the piece of very lengthy piece, I'm just giving you the highlights here, she says, what is striking is the rise of anti Semitism in the West. It serves as a clear indicator of how far this mode of thinking has spread. As global conflicts are increasingly read through categories of domination and depression, complex political realities are compressed into blunt hierarchies of power. So is why we don't do nuance Right Within that ordering, Jews and Israel are placed on the side identified with dominance, stripped of historical specificity, and they are recast as just symbols in its current forms. The depiction goes further, presenting Jews as the embodiment of a cosmopolitan American project, rootless powerful, aligned with capital and empire, a convenience stand in for everything associated with Western hegemony. And worse, they even have Israel, they have their own country. Still, this translation gives hostility a political language, and it allows it to circulate within a thought process that appears legitimate. In the US, the conditions have fundamentally changed. Public life will now unfold under an unrelenting stream of global exposure and interpretation. In this new environment, third worldism will not dominate as an official doctrine. Instead, it will function as a ruthless organizing machine for political mobilization. Okay, people aren't going to come out. What she's saying here is people aren't going to come out and argue America needs to be taken down a peg. We should elevate China to be our enemy. Right, they're not going to say that. They're not going to say, I want Russia to be more powerful, so then they can, you know, start up a Cold war again. Like they're not saying that. They say multipolarity, it's inevitable. You know, we are messing around all over the place. We shouldn't be involved in all this stuff, right, It sort of just permeates through these arguments, and that's why Trump has angered a lot of people that voted for him, because like he wants America when he says make America great again, he wants America to win in everything, and that means, you know, America is dominant. And there are a lot of people that have this third world ist ideology embedded, sort of coded into their thinking, Like they don't want that. They want America to be weakened. They want America to maybe even just go away, Like where are the source of all the problems? We're the ones who created every problem throughout history, even before there was anybody here. Right now, remember what she said about how this third world ism sort of gets cooked in in college. Right. This then ties into a thing called the overproduction of the elites. I've talked about this before. Rob Henderson he coined the term luxury beliefs back in twenty nineteen, and he wrote about this. I thought this was a very interesting piece over at his website Robkhenderson dot com titled Rage of the Falling Elite. And there is a message in here that I think we should all take to heart, and it's about expectations and gratitude. I firmly believe that if people like intentionally expressed gratitude to first off, it forces you to recognize things in your life that you are grateful for. And when you start thinking directly about those things, intentionally about those things, it makes you happier. It makes you feel blessed. Right, it makes you recognize that you have a lot of things that other people may not have, Soude. He says, in America, we love a rags to richest tail. Well, we used to. In twenty twenty five. The most combustible force in American society isn't upward mobility but the opposite. The radicalization of seemingly well off people is one of the defining political developments of the past decade. Right, people who thought that they were going to get access to the elites, and then they don't, and they are angry about it, he says. Consider how the upper middle classes lionized Luigi Mangioni, who's accused of killing the CEO of United Healthcare, or how they propelled Zon Mamdani into the mayor's mansion in New York City. Right, the children of affluents appear to be mobilizing and boy, do they want you to know about it? But what's really happening here? Why are why are people who appear to have made it rallying to causes at odds with their own standing right? And he says it's the story of downward mobility. The higher your parents' income, the less likely you are to match it. And they're mad about it because they grew up in a richer household. They're accustomed to certain things, they have a higher expectation, and when it's not met, they get mad. According to the Pew Charitable Trust, fewer than four in ten kids born into the richest households stay there. So they're downwardly mobile. They're falling out of the elite class. Message on the text line from Eddie. Karl Marx was raised by a wealthy family. They paid his debts off each year. When he got his PAHD, his mother cut him off and told him he could now take care of himself. He stopped talking to her. As a result, he never made his own money of any real amount. His rich friend gave him money each year. In short, Karl Marx was a lazy, underachieving, looter and loser. Correct he also had piles Yeah, I'm actually reading The Devil and Karl Marx. I started that on my long weekend last weekend. All right back to Rob Henderson's piece. Unlike the working classes they so often claimed to represent, these downwardly mobile elites remain armed with the tools of their upbringing. So they got degrees, the contacts, the cultural fluency. They retain platforms in media, academia, and politics, which allows them to broadcast their grievances. Given these privileges, it should come as no surprise that their concerns dominate the cultural conversation. Some of this downward mobility is also There are a lot of young college educated people who would prefer to be a freelance writer or a part time contingent faculty member rather than work as a manager at a cheesecake factory. The dream is artistic freedom and flexible work. The reality disillusionment when prosperity does not follow. When reality disappoints these people who are raised in privilege, the gap between their expectation and outcome produces rage. Behavioral economics has long recognized this dynamic. Here's the key. Satisfaction depends less on objective conditions than on whether outcomes match or exceed your expectations. So if you expect to be rich as a freelance basket weaver and then you don't get rich doing that, that produces anger. The higher the expectation, the sharper the disappointment. Privilege itself can encourage feelings of decline. He goes on to say later in this piece, these people were aggrieved that they were in the ninetieth percentile rather than the ninety ninth. Survey show progressive activists are wealthier, wider, and more highly educated than the average American. And highly educated just means they've got degrees. Okay. The dynamic has a name. This is called elite over production. It was a term coined by Peter Turchin, and it describes what happens when you crank out too many of these ambitious strivers than there are actual high status positions for them to move into. And history shows it is these very disaffected elites who lead the revolutions. Robespierre, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, Schegovara, even America's founders. They were all well educated and ambitious. And here's the key. They were close enough to the ruling class to see its flaws. But they were excluded enough to then seethe with resentment because the masses well, we remain largely inert unless they organize us, and we are then led by these disaffected elites. He goes on to say, many assume the central conflict in society is between the haves and the have nots, But in reality, much of the struggle is between the haves and the have mores. People who are already doing well but want the money and the resources and the status of those people just above them, and then they disguise their ambition as concern for the have nots. Sound familiar. Higher socioeconomic status are more likely to crave wealth and status and prestige than those with less. The more one has, the more one wants. There was a University of Edinburgh study that found malicious envy resentment at other people's success, was one of the strongest predictors of support for coercive redistribution, socialism, communism right malicious envy the impulse is not to lift up the poor, but to tear down those who are one wrung on the social ladder or economic letter above you. Today's wealthy activists are the meritocratic descendants of this ruling class, and now they face their own reckoning. He says, once upon a time, their education and their resumes guaranteed them status. Now, as the economy stratifies, many people feel themselves slipping, and once again socialism or its progressive equivalents offers a way to explain the loss and to seek revenge on those who have outpaced them. He says, how this pent up rage erupts is still unclear, but it's certainly not going to be pretty. So that's the elite overproduction blended with your third world is and is Lamism, the Red Green Alliance. Here is a little segment we like to call pregaming with Brett Winterable, and as coincidence would have it, Brett Winnable is here with me. Good to be with you, Good to be with I want to play for you a clip. Sure. This is a fellow by the name of Sam Froun. I think Froun for Farun or something. Okay, he's a stand up commute, all right. I grew up in a liberal town that's also very affluent, and that's where my views were shaped. And it's kind of a strange combination of factors because it gave me a lot of class resentment towards people who are not that much wealthier than my family. I'm like those bastards in the one percent, they have no idea what life is like down here in the two percent, never worked a. Day in their lives. I got a job when I was fourteen for my dad's law firm. People say eat the rich. I'm like, how about we nibble? Can we nibble? It still bothers me to admit that I have all this privilege, though, because it's like, it doesn't give me a good story, Like if I succeed, it'll be despite no adversity. No one is making a movie about my journey coming this summer, the incredible story of a suburban white boy who. Fought the odds. Right there, you go awesome? Right, So this ties into what I was discussing in this hour about elite over production. Yes, and the problem with so many of these people who think that they should have been granted access to that strata. Yes, and they're not in it. Yes, and it makes them very, very angry. And they are the ones historically who then lead revolutions, and they disguise their resentment and envy and anger. As for the people yeah, right, what do you think of this theory? I think it's I think it's it's a perfect theory. And I genuinely am buying in on every bit of that, because when you start talking about a revolution or anything, you're doing it wrong, right, Like look at and I got yelled at yesterday because I said Hassan Piker the wrong way. Okay, So so I don't say Hassan Piker. Hassan, No, Hassan Hassan is it with the don't know? Okay? I don't want to be young. So this person, this person took took a shot at me and said, you and Pete Calendy. He mentioned you, you and Pete calendar You. You don't say his name, right, So I so I shouldn't say. This, but I'm gonna say. I said, I said, tell me how to say it, because it was coming in on the on the text slide. Okay, I'm like, how do you say it? Yeah, yeah, give me a pronunciation. They won't get me the pronunciation. Oh they didn't, No, And then they go, oh, it's no big deal. I still love I still love your shows. But his name is Hassan. It is Hassan Piker Piker, right, and I think he's the nephew of chenk Wiger. Yes, he's got a relationship there some for sure, total nepo baby red kid. Yes, yeah, I thinks it's okay to kill Louis, you know, be right alongside Luigi and all that other sort of stuff. Now he's campaigning with Democrats, right of course, right, like there's no coming back from oh my gosh. Like he is the main like the New York Times. You just mentioned the comment that he made right in a sit down interview podcast appearance at the New York Times. Yes, they're like mainstreaming this idea that you know, well, you know, he committed social murder. What the ceo? Yeah, what is that? Three more and you get a dunkin Donuts ticket or something. I mean, what is this? It's it's crazy, it's crazy. It's erecting a permission structure for violence. And he lives in Hollyweird and he's got like a massive amount of money and all that kind of stuff, and you know, so good, you got yours. But it's obvious that he's trying to just poke the bear and he's not. Really he's the kind of ony person that says that they're they're down for the struggle. Really, have you seen pictures of his childhood? Yes, he's he looks like like he's he's on a horse with the dapper hat, like that little bucket horse thing of helmet thing. He's got the blazer. Yes he's a little chunky, right, but like that. But this, this life of privilege. That's exactly what this is. And so when you look at this like I did a little I did a little research because I was listening to your to your segment of on Piker, not about not on Hassan either pronounce his name, but back I don't even you know, I'll just go call him, you know. What, Pike, I'm calling Pike, hp hp oh, Hewlett Packard. That's g if I can't do that, Yeah, yeah, that's not good. Depending on the. Definition of rich, it's between three million and thirty four million Americans in total for the rich people. But didn't Rush used to talk about that that. He would ask people at like dinner parties and stuff like what do you consider rich? Of course, and everybody had a different answer. That's exactly right, right, rich is somebody else. There's a very famous quote from I'm trying to remember who it was, but it'll come to me. And he was a guy who was one of these guys who's like a motivational speaker kind of guy. And he said, listen, you just need All you gotta do is just get a little more. No matter how much you have, you just need a little more. That's why people continue to work. Except for Piker. The guy live streams like twelve hours a day. I don't even understand. Could you even do? Like, no, I have too much in my life that I mean, I have things to do. Right, But he doesn't. Well, he's on he's on Twitch. He does have to walk the dog and abuse it? Did he? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so he had a are you people really? Yeah? People were curious how like when he's live streaming, he's got one of those dog beds in the background and his dog stays in the bed the whole time, and he's doing these streams for hours, and people were always wondering like, how does this dog like sit there for so long? And then a video came out. It was a call on a live stream where the dog went to get off the bed and he reaches over and he his hand moves off screen or something, and and then the dog yelps and jumps back on. So he's got a shock collar to keep the dog on this bed for the entire time because it's good for the stream numbers. That guy, that guy is, you know is what he is. Yeah, he's you know, he's called for he has like explicitly called for the murder of Republicans and conservatives. He just went to Cuba, right for that stupid junket or whatever. Yeah, and the guy's walking around in sunglasses that cost more money than a Cuban earns in an entire year. Absolutely, and he's just, you know, just just extolling the virtues of communism. He's a full on commy, yes, and talks openly about. It and and that, and that should surprise nobody. Brett stick around. Brett Winnable is gonna be on three to six. I'll hang out with him for a little while as well. All Right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.