The wackiest defense of unisex bathrooms (03-26-2025--Hour2)

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[00:00:28] Senate Bill 516 filed in the North Carolina Senate a bill entitled An Act to Define Various Terms in the General Statutes of North Carolina and to Enact the Women's Safety and Protection Act.

[00:00:46] Senate Bill 516 and so it lays out definitions of male and female. And then it also says that the bathrooms and sleeping quarters and changing rooms, locker rooms and such will be reserved for, you know, women only based on the definitions of a woman that basically like 90% of women is a woman.

[00:01:16] 90% of the people know what that is, what a woman is. But they, some, a larger portion may not, may be afraid to say what a woman is, but they do know what the definition is. Okay. So it's basically a rehash, albeit a bit curtailed of the original House Bill 2 and that fight that we had in North Carolina before anybody else was really discussing this issue, which was basically forced upon the state because of the actions of the Charlotte City Council.

[00:01:46] And the former mayor, Jennifer Roberts, who promised to enact the bathroom access to all people, right? All the transgender access bill at the local level. And then was going to fine businesses if they didn't comply and all of this other stuff.

[00:02:01] And we had this really bizarre exchange with the then city attorney, Bob Hageman, who said, well, yes, it'd be against the law, but we just won't enforce it. It's like, that's not how you do laws. You don't write laws and then say, but we're not going to enforce it on the business. No, because at some point somebody does come along and wants to enforce that law.

[00:02:21] So House Bill 2 erupts. I went over all of that in the last hour, partially repealed by Governor Cooper after he used it to win his governor's race. And now we've got Senate Bill 516 that is coming back to this issue. So let me get Christine on who called during the last segment, but we did not have time to speak with her. Christine, welcome to the show. Thanks for holding on. I appreciate it.

[00:02:48] Sure. Thanks, Pete. I just wanted to let Mike and your listeners know that this does happen. And my daughter, and this probably happened back in 2019, was attending a charter school here in Monroe.

[00:03:09] And she had a, and I'm not, forgive me if I get the terminology incorrect, but I think it was a trans girl. So it was a biological boy that came into the locker room during their swim fly out. She was going to be on the swim team. And this student who was new to the school was a boy. And when he first came to the school that year, he was a boy.

[00:03:38] And after fall break, he started dressing as a girl. And the school was taking care of it because there was another student doing the opposite way. And the way the school was taking care of it was saying, okay, you two will use the teacher's individual bathroom. So at the school, they were taking care of it. However, the school doesn't have a pool. So they were used in the local, the aquatic center.

[00:04:09] And so this was off a school campus. And this boy decided he was going to try out for the swim team. When he came, my daughter told me about it. I was like, okay, let's see if he's going to wear swim trunks or a swimsuit.

[00:04:23] And so he came and he tried out in a swim trunk. He had changed in the boys locker room. But after the practice, after he changed, he walked into the female locker room.

[00:04:43] My daughter was in a towel changing. Thank goodness had a towel wrapped around her. But he came in, of course, all the girls scream because now there's this boy in the locker room. They know him as a boy. And they screamed. And he's like, he says, what? I'm just like you. No, right. He's not great.

[00:05:06] No, no. So I notified the swim team coach. And the only thing I said to her was, I know you will take care of this because I didn't know her. And she did. And thank goodness the boy was a terrible swimmer and did not make the team. So, you know, he was doing it simply to instigate and to see what he could get away with going into that locker room.

[00:05:35] Yeah, that's not a surprise. Right. That's not a surprise. This is what and this is why when I with caller Mike before the the news there at the end of the last hour, I said, you're opening up spaces for bad actors. And they don't necessarily have to go and assault a woman, but they are behaving as a bad actor. And that then is victimizing the women in that locker room.

[00:06:01] Exactly. And so we should we should be trying to protect those women in those vulnerable positions and places. Exactly. Yeah. I'm sorry your daughter had to go through that, but I do appreciate you sharing the story with us. Sure. Absolutely. All right. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. Let's jump over and talk with Nancy. Hello, Nancy. Welcome to the show. Hi. Hello. Hi, Pete. Yep. Hello. Yes. Hello. Hi.

[00:06:28] I was at L.A. Fitness and this was before the COVID and I have I'm I'm a sort of senior. Anyway, they had it was Memorial Day. And so they didn't have hardly any staff.

[00:06:48] Anyway, I was working out and in the pool and a large man wanted to borrow my star foam weights. I know he was a man because he was adjusting his penis. As we do.

[00:07:04] Anyway, he after I got out of the pool, I went into the women's shower area and L.A. Fitness and he came in the women's shower. I called the police later. I have lung problems. I have lung damage and I couldn't scream if I wanted to. Mm hmm.

[00:07:30] And anyway, the police later told me there was nothing they could do. They said if he didn't put his hands on me or he didn't hurt me, he scared the heck out of me. I'm not even five feet tall anymore. I lost two inches. Women do that. Anyway, he he terrified me. I was afraid to get out of the shower. Or I was digging through my bag to see what I had to hurt somebody with.

[00:07:59] You know, I don't think trial size bottles of shampoo would do any good. No, but here I don't even. Yeah, I'll give you a piece, a tip, a piece of advice. The ear is the most easily detachable part of the body. Well, you grab that ear and you just pull it until it comes off. He was very tall, too. But anyway, it just was terrifying. I appreciate the tip, but I stopped going there. They won't.

[00:08:30] As far as I know, I don't know that they let that go on much more. But I called L.A. Fitness. I tried to get their corporate and to let them know. But they said that there's nothing they can do about it because of the law. Right. I'm like, you know, you should want to protect women. Right. But if the state, if the if the if the state, the authority of the government will not. Yeah.

[00:08:55] If they won't recognize what a woman is and they have no, quote, definition of that, then they. Yeah. Then that's the position they got put in. Nancy, I appreciate the call. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Yeah. I mean, it's awful. And again, like. And so when Mike says, oh, maybe I'm just not hearing about it. That's correct. Mike, you're just not hearing about it. Amelia, welcome to the show. Hey, Amelia. Amelia. Hi. Hey. I would just like to say in the case of, you know, young boys and girls, they're barely

[00:09:25] pubescent. For some reason, it is such a big deal that boys and girls make in bathrooms, but not a big deal at all. That girls see other girls in locker rooms. I think that the schools make it a big deal and it isn't. You think the schools make it? How do the schools make it a big deal? I think. Separating boys and girls in locker rooms in the first place is not a good idea.

[00:09:55] You're implicating that it's totally fine for other women or other girls, really, because these kids are, what, 12 trying out for the middle school swimming team and then telling them that they can't be around boys. And that just creates a stigma that, you know, their other, the sex of the other body matters for some reason. Why does it matter? Why does the opposite sex matter? Have you met a 12-year-old boy?

[00:10:25] I have. Yeah. What do you think they do around naked 12-year-old girls? Nothing that naked 12-year-old girls don't do. So we should encourage that kind of behavior? No, we should encourage acceptance of bodies as normal.

[00:10:50] Who's, well, then, so you then do not believe then in the transgender surgeries, I guess? I... Should we ban those? I'm not speaking to that. No, but you just did. You said there's nothing wrong with the bodies. So I'm assuming then you would be opposed to the transgender surgeries. You don't get upset that, like, girl dogs and boy dogs are together. Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:11:18] I don't get upset that male and female dogs are together? Yeah, you don't see that as a problem. They're also naked. Yeah, they're also naked. They're naked. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, unless, like, I guess they have a collar. Or sometimes their owners put, like, this silly little sweater on them, which is weird. They should really put pants on them if they're going to pick a garment. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, because they're the same. Dogs and... Right, dogs and people are the same.

[00:11:45] Why do we see ourselves... Our physical bodies as such an important thing? They are. Okay. Well, because we see... The society sees them like that because they are. To some people. Mm-hmm. To most people. There wouldn't be this huge issue about a bathroom bill if all the bathrooms were all gender to begin with. Oh, I disagree because we actually... We've seen this play out.

[00:12:15] And that's what the two stories from these ladies just outlined was that when you open up the spaces... It's like, why do you segregate... No, hang on, Amelia. Why do you segregate the changing rooms, locker rooms, showers, bathrooms? Why do you segregate based on sex? You do that... You do that because you try to protect women from men who take advantage of that access to those spaces. That's the point.

[00:12:44] And how, and in the first instance, was the man, the boy, in high school or middle school or whatever, taking advantage of the space other than to use it to change? No, he wasn't, actually. He changed in a different room and then he came in afterwards while the girls were changing. So you realize there are fetishes? Do you know that people have fetishes? Do you know that? I'm aware. Yeah. And so do you know that there are fetishes related to this kind of behavior? I think it's called voyeurism.

[00:13:13] No, that's one of them. Whatever that is. No, that's one of them. There are several different kinds of, like, wearing the clothing and pretending to be the thing. And, like, so there are different fetishes surrounding this issue. And so when somebody comes in and starts, like, ogling your naked body for their own sexual gratification, do you think that that's appropriate? I don't think that's what was happening. No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[00:13:38] I'm asking because that's the scenario that you are allowing to occur by opening the spaces up to everybody as you outlined. So if I had that fetish, I would be able to come in and just ogle you. I don't care if anyone sees my naked body. What's that? I don't care if anyone sees my naked body. Do you respect that some people do?

[00:13:58] I think that the House bill will make it so that people care less about such things and that such conflicts won't actually happen. By normalizing being around, you know, someone of the other gender. Well, okay. I will leave it here because I'm way late for my traffic break, Amelia, and I appreciate your call.

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[00:16:18] Yes, this is Robert Brown. I remember when Pat McCord got voted out during the time that all this had come down about the bathrooms. And anyway, my niece had a volleyball tournament there at Convention Center. And we went, and it was pretty packed. And I told my wife, I said, I'm going to try to find a bathroom, you know.

[00:16:47] And I was looking and looking and looking and looking. I just kept seeing this same bathroom, you know. So, I went in there. And then there was like men and women in there. And, you know, it was just something I just couldn't believe. I was like, I can't believe this is really happening. Yeah. Well, that's the way it went for a long time. Yeah. I just thought I should share that. I appreciate it, Robert. Yeah. This was the case for a while. I don't know what it's, if it still is.

[00:17:17] But I remember right after they did the HB2 fight and everybody was like, all of our bathrooms are unisex now. And share the bathrooms, everybody. Free love. And then the DNC came to town. Remember that? And they, or no, they had, or was it here? No, it didn't. They didn't come here. Wherever it was, because this would have been like 2016 or 2018. I forget which year it was. And they did, or 2020.

[00:17:47] And then they had, they had female and male bathrooms. Remember that? Yeah. So it's absurd. It's absurd. But yeah, they, and I still see signs around and there are bathrooms. And look, if you're a private business, you go ahead and do whatever you want. You do what you want. But there was a purpose for the segregation of restroom facilities for women. It was to protect them. And you may not like that now.

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[00:19:40] Just a few responses. I do not know if there was any. I do not know if there was any intoxicants involved in any of the calls. I just want to say that. I have no evidence of that, but people are asking. So Ron says, for years, conservative politicians played by the Marquis of Queensberry rules while libs were playing by prison rules. Libs were kicking our tails. Trump came along and is willing to fight the libs on their own terms. As you've said repeatedly, that's how we got Trump.

[00:20:10] Time to embrace the Obama approach. We won. We're in charge now. So just shut up because we don't care what you think. That's from Ron. Now, I mean, the problem with that is that sometimes like that you get blowback, just like we saw with Obama. Right. People don't appreciate that. And you will end up losing as Obama lost all of those legislature races all across the country. Right. All of the states flipped and all of that. So there is backlash.

[00:20:37] There is a downside to governing like that or ruling like that. Joseph says, it's funny how all the Democrat callers you get never really call in to yell at you when you talk about the trans stuff. They only ever call in about Trump. Yeah, that's interesting observation. Alan says, I would hate to have Mike as my lawyer under any circumstances. How many Seth says, how many times does it take for a woman to be violated in a woman's only area for enforcement to take place?

[00:21:08] Yeah, which is, again, that's the argument. For the protection of the safe spaces is so you don't have women victimized by the bad actors who get access to the safe space because we're all too polite. Oh, no, I don't want to offend anybody.

[00:21:28] Joseph says, I wonder how Mike, being a traditional race based lefty leftist commie, how he really feels in his heart of hearts about having to align himself with the trans insanity. I'm sure when it seemed like a good play for numbers, he could deal with it. But now that the issue has become an 80, 20 or worse loser for Democrats, if they're ever going to cut their losses and dump the nut job gender bender Bolsheviks.

[00:21:56] Tim says, with the logic that Mike uses, I wish I knew his whole name so I can avoid accidentally hiring him in the future. That's getting a couple of those types of messages. Now, Amelia's call. This is from Dennis. It is frightening to me that your caller, Amelia, is an adult. Scary. Well, to be fair, I don't know if she is. I don't know how old she was.

[00:22:25] And Tony wants to know, where was this kind of girl when I was a teenager? That's yeah. But notice, like she wants this. What her comment there at the end indicated was that, you know, she doesn't care if men are looking at her. Although I'm sure if maybe some guy came up and asked her out or made her feel uncomfortable in the workplace, like I'm thinking class action lawsuit all over the place there. But she wants her standard applied to everybody.

[00:22:55] This is what I mean about competing interests, competing rights. And you can't have it. This is what the society is telling people like Amelia. We know what you want. And we're saying no. We're saying no. This is a very bright line. The answer is no. And the sooner that you accept that, then the better off I think the society will be and you will be.

[00:23:24] But the answer to your demand that society change and start putting 12 year old boys and girls into showers together in order to make everybody feel comfortable, which I don't think that's actually going to have that kind of an impact. You can read about it. All this all this Huxley has written about it.

[00:23:49] And yeah, so like the society is telling, you know, that's it. Just accept it. Richard says it's real simple. It only takes one girl, one woman to feel uneasy about a boy or man being in their safe space. Why only women have to endure this issue as a high school dude? I would spend all my time in the girls locker room.

[00:24:17] According to statistics, Larry says it sounds like Amelia is a college educated white female. That's that's actually probably exactly true. Ellen says, wow, what a caller. She is completely wrong. A young girl under the age of 18 should never have to deal with a young man or boy in the bathroom or locker room. They are not adults. They are just developing. That woman is nuts and completely wrong. As an adult, if she wants to show her naked body off, go for it, honey.

[00:24:45] But a minor should not be subjected to that. But see, she's going to make you not feel uncomfortable about your own body. Unless, of course, you want to chop off various parts of it. Obviously. Gosh, I don't understand why people are freaking out. Chris says, from the sound of it, I assume Mike and Amelia are related. I don't know if I don't know.

[00:25:16] This is Bob. He says, last caller should walk into either the Hornets or the Panthers locker room. If that didn't do it, she should strip among the team. She would get a new perspective on clothing or a lack thereof. Yeah, I don't know. Stan says, during COVID, I went into a public building in South Carolina. One of the restrooms said women and the other door said all others. I asked somebody there about it and they couldn't tell me who all the others were.

[00:25:45] Yeah, and it is one of the things that I didn't even get to with Mike in the first hour when he called about an hour ago. What's a woman? See, and that's one of the things in this bill, Senate Bill 516 now. I think this is one of the problems that Democrats are going to have. And if I'm the North Carolina lawmakers in the debate on this, if I'm the Republicans doing the debate on this, that's what I would ask them to define.

[00:26:16] Because it's a very simple question that exposes the level of dumbassery at play. In this bill, not only does it talk about the bathrooms and stuff, but it also talks about domestic violence shelters, for example, which I'm assuming I guess Amelia is fine with that too, right? Women who are fleeing domestic violence and they end up in a shelter for victims.

[00:26:42] I'm guessing she's okay with allowing men to parade around the women's showers. You know, these are victims that now you're going to be flashing. Like we have these rules, these laws. Like you're not allowed to like walk up to people and expose yourself, right? There are reasons why these laws exist. And this is what I went over this a couple of days ago. The defining deviancy down and defining deviancy up.

[00:27:11] And so you take what is sort of the standard mores, the norms of a society, and you problematize things that are generally accepted in the society. And you start saying these are bad things now, like sex segregated locker rooms. And you start saying, no, no, no, that's wrong. You're a bigot and all this.

[00:27:37] And so you're making, quote unquote, normal behavior and thoughts and standards. You're making them abnormal. That's what Charles Krauthammer called defining deviancy up. While on the other side, you're allowing and permitting more and more things that were deviant to now be accepted. You're forcing those things into the culture too. And it is all in service to a degradation of the society. That's what's going on.

[00:28:09] But this law defines a boy, a human male who is a minor. Father, a parent who is of the male sex. Female, an individual who has, had, will have, or would have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or historical accident, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports, and utilizes eggs for fertilization. Gender, the psychological, behavioral, social, and cultural aspects of being male or female.

[00:28:38] Girl, a human female who is a minor. Male, an individual who has, had, will have, or would have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or historical accident, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization. It defines man, defines biological sex or sex, defines mother, and defines woman,

[00:29:01] which in case our friends on the left don't know, a human female that has reached the age of majority or a minor who has been emancipated. Just in case you were unclear about what a woman is, there's your definition. And now, thanks to the left, we actually have to spell it out for you. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do too, and you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why?

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[00:30:23] On Twitter, at Pete Callender, I have received a message from Trent. It's a Pete tweet who says,

[00:30:44] Yeah, the whole act has been cheapened, right? And when a society no longer values this thing, then you can't obviously expect,

[00:31:09] and this is one of the things, by the way, that you see in impoverished countries, war-torn countries, where there is no rule of law meant to protect these privacy rights, right? And these are rights enshrined in our founding documents, the right to privacy. And there is an effort to blow that up. Now, they can find the right to abortion inside the right to privacy,

[00:31:37] but they can't find the right to a private changing room when you're getting naked. That can't, I can't figure that one out for the life of me. That's not privacy at all. No, the founders meant the right to abortion. See, we can read between the lines there, and that's where that lives. But the right to not have some guy with a fetish ogling you while you change in the showers,

[00:32:06] that's, you know, that's not what the founders had in mind at all. A couple more messages on the Twitter. Let's see, this is from former pole dancer. I'm glad to see you got your life on track. But to caller Mike, if it only applies to a tiny percentage of events, then why does he oppose it?

[00:32:32] By the way, this is, and I didn't even raise this point with him because of the time constraints I was dealing with. But one of the, you know, the old blueprints that we talk about with the left is, you know, first, the argument is that it's not happening, right? And then the argument, after then you show examples of it happening, then the argument moves to,

[00:32:59] okay, fine, it's happening, but it's not a lot. It's the same thing we saw with, like, voter ID, vote fraud stories. And whenever we have these types of arguments, the first step is to deny it exists. Then the second step is to say, okay, well, actually, a lot of times they don't even say, okay, fine, it exists. They just move to the next one. It's not even a lot. And then when you could show them multiple examples, then it shifts to, you know, okay, fine, it happens a lot, but not enough for whatever reason.

[00:33:30] And then finally, when you show that, no, this does have a big impact on this race or a big impact, you know, for this victim or whatever, then it goes to the, fine, it's happening, but here's why it's good that it is happening. Because there isn't a principle at play here except power. That's it. That's the only thing that's going on. And the left has bought into this idea because their base is animated by the issue, right?

[00:33:57] The Democrat Party's base is animated by this issue. And the vast majority of Americans and the vast majority of the world, the global population on the entire planet understands men and women different for many reasons. Not saying one's better or worse. They're just different.

[00:34:18] And the left is taking this very, very minority view and they're trying to force it upon the entire society. And this is the society saying, no, we disagree. Anyway, so Mike first started off trying to make the argument that it's only a tiny percentage, you know, so. But if that's the case, this is a good question. Then why oppose it?

[00:34:47] Especially when about three quarters of Americans are supportive of protections for women. Is it so that the left can expand and broaden the issue a piece at a time? I think that's the most likely explanation. Yes, that is right. It is the destabilization of the society. It's knocking out pillars upon which the Western civilization is built. That's what Marxism is about. That's why the left does these things. This is, remember, the issue is never the issue.

[00:35:16] The issue is always the revolution. This isn't about bathrooms. It's about power. This is from Timoteo. It's choosing imaginary rights for an imaginary gender over the innate rights of real women. Andy says, I should ask callers if they've actually read the bill. Please, Andy, come now. You know the answer to that question. It's always going to be no.

[00:35:42] Kelly says that caller Amelia sounds like she regularly watches The View. Wake and bake, man. Anyway, what is the quote, Pete, about it takes a lot of education. To be so dumb. Yeah, I have to admit. At first, I thought that Amelia's call might be a bit, a skit, a put on or something.

[00:36:12] But as I proceeded through the call, it became obvious that no, she's actually advocating for this wacky opinion. But that's what we do here. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecalendershow.com.

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