'The Science' goes to Capitol Hill (06-03-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] The science is on trial today.

[00:00:33] By that I mean Tony Fauci, not actually on trial.

[00:00:36] He's at a congressional hearing.

[00:00:39] But ahead of the hearing that started this morning at 10 a.m. and I was listening to

[00:00:43] some of it before the program.

[00:00:46] And tomorrow I'll pull up, you know, a lot more audio and we'll go deeper into his testimony

[00:00:52] that he provided today.

[00:00:54] But we do have a transcript of some of the stuff that he has said in the closed door

[00:01:01] testimony with congressional investigators and lawyers and members.

[00:01:09] And some of it got leaked out to the UK Daily Mail over the weekend.

[00:01:14] Headline, Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he made up covid rules, including six feet social

[00:01:22] distancing, which my first question is, if he's the science, can he really make up stuff?

[00:01:30] Because he's the science.

[00:01:32] And that's not how the science works.

[00:01:35] Right.

[00:01:36] Now, maybe there's somebody else around the corner named the data.

[00:01:42] I'm not sure.

[00:01:44] Because like we heard a lot about that during the pandemic.

[00:01:48] We heard it from Mandy Cohen, who, as I understand it, has it going on.

[00:01:53] And when she was in charge of North Carolina's Department of Health and Human Services before

[00:01:56] she parlayed that into a gig to head up the CDC now.

[00:02:02] And also my good friend Ray Cooper, Governor Roy Cooper.

[00:02:07] I mean, he's he goes by Ray amongst his friends like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.

[00:02:13] I mean, that's what they said.

[00:02:16] They said my good friend Ray.

[00:02:17] So I just feel like I have to kind of give both of those anyway, both those names.

[00:02:22] He goes by either in my book.

[00:02:23] So we knew that this thing, the response was morphing into something else.

[00:02:31] I did at least.

[00:02:32] And a lot of you did.

[00:02:33] Because we talked about it at the time where at the very beginning there was a certain

[00:02:39] mindset and then as it progressed, actions were taken, statements were made.

[00:02:47] Data was collected.

[00:02:48] Death tolls rose.

[00:02:50] Like all of these things started happening.

[00:02:53] And that's sort of your beginning point, the ramp up as the virus landed on shore and

[00:02:58] started spreading.

[00:02:59] You know, the pandemic became endemic and now it's with us.

[00:03:03] So just like the flu.

[00:03:05] And so there is what is the most frustrating part of all of this.

[00:03:09] There is a there is a conflation of what occurred at the very beginning with what occurred sort

[00:03:18] of midpoint through the end.

[00:03:21] And you can quibble over when the midpoint was exactly right.

[00:03:25] But obviously when it was a brand new virus and people weren't sure what was going on

[00:03:30] and we saw these images coming out of, you know, Wuhan, you know, people dead in the

[00:03:34] streets and all of this.

[00:03:35] This hysteria that first took off at the very beginning from this is where we got the, you

[00:03:41] know, bend the curve stuff, got to close down the hospital so they're not overrun.

[00:03:47] And people believe that.

[00:03:49] They were predictions.

[00:03:52] But the best brains in the world that study this kind of stuff and then go break their

[00:03:56] own quarantine, they told us that this is what was going to happen.

[00:04:02] And so at the beginning, people weren't sure whether those predictions were true or not,

[00:04:07] but best to err on the side of caution, shut everything down.

[00:04:10] And remember at the beginning, don't buy the masks.

[00:04:13] They don't work.

[00:04:14] But then, of course, you know, flip that around and say, OK, now go buy the masks.

[00:04:17] And we had to lie to you at the beginning.

[00:04:19] You see, not because the masks do work because they didn't, but people were going out and

[00:04:25] buying them.

[00:04:26] We had to tell people don't because then the frontline medical workers couldn't get them.

[00:04:30] Now, they wear them for a bit of a different reason.

[00:04:32] But point was it sent a mixed message to people.

[00:04:37] And that has been the problem in the entire pandemic response, in my estimation.

[00:04:43] There's been the conflation of the beginning with the midpoint and through the end in the

[00:04:49] responses and the way government has behaved.

[00:04:54] And then there has been the flipping of advice by the experts.

[00:05:01] And then gaslighting people that remember what the advice used to be.

[00:05:07] I read the other day from the 2008 Scott, was it Scottish Health Service or whatever

[00:05:14] it was.

[00:05:15] And they did a big thing about a whole like response plan for pandemics.

[00:05:20] And they talked about masks and how they don't work in an aerosolized virus.

[00:05:26] They've done this for decades.

[00:05:30] Do masks work to stop the larger droplets and particles that come out of your mouth

[00:05:35] when you're talking or coughing or sneezing?

[00:05:37] Yes, they do.

[00:05:39] But you can't trap them inside your mask.

[00:05:41] That's why you shouldn't have a mask on all day long.

[00:05:44] You should be swapping them out all the time.

[00:05:46] Right.

[00:05:47] And you should be like sealing them off and all this.

[00:05:48] That's just to protect from the big droplets, the micro droplets, the stuff that's so small

[00:05:54] that they literally suspend in air.

[00:05:56] Those go right through the mask.

[00:05:58] And if it's an aerosolized spread, then the masks don't stop that.

[00:06:05] In fact, ventilation would actually do more to combat the spread than masking.

[00:06:10] But they never said to ventilate.

[00:06:11] They never said open up windows, run a bunch of fans.

[00:06:14] They never emphasized that.

[00:06:15] In fact, the one question ever that I give Travis Fain, formerly of WRAL, credit for

[00:06:21] asking during one of those press conferences that Mandy Cohen and Ray Cooper held was he

[00:06:29] asked about the ventilation.

[00:06:32] Because I was hammering away at that during the pandemic, hammering away.

[00:06:36] I don't know if he saw my tweets.

[00:06:37] I think he did.

[00:06:39] Because I was just beating the snot out of anybody that was in those press conferences,

[00:06:45] which remember Roy Cooper and Mandy Cohen limited, strictly limited who could participate.

[00:06:51] They went out and got software, call screening software essentially.

[00:06:58] And I believe it was AP Dillon.

[00:07:01] She did the big write up at the North State Journal about this program, this software

[00:07:06] platform that they started using for the pandemic.

[00:07:09] And it was a platform that was built for left wing organizers.

[00:07:13] I'm sure it's completely coincidence who got that contract.

[00:07:18] But the creators of the platform never intended it to be used for press conferences.

[00:07:25] It was supposed to be used for just conferences, for conventions.

[00:07:28] You're going to do like some seminar.

[00:07:30] And so what you do is then you have people break out into different groups, A, B, C and

[00:07:34] D, whatever.

[00:07:35] And then you could take the Zoom calls or the whatever, like people can teleconference

[00:07:39] in, telephone or video in, in these different pods, in these different groups.

[00:07:46] And so what the public information officers or I guess that's kind of oxymoronic, but

[00:07:52] whatever, the PR people that work for DHS and the governor, they would put people into

[00:08:00] different pods.

[00:08:01] They'd assign the reporters into groups, A, B, C, D, whatever.

[00:08:05] And if you were a person that was not going to rock the boat for them, they'd put you

[00:08:10] in A. Needless to say, AP Dillon never got put into A. Nick Oxner from WBTV, I think

[00:08:18] he was in A once and then they booted him out after he asked a question that they didn't

[00:08:23] like.

[00:08:24] Right?

[00:08:25] This is how they kind of rolled.

[00:08:26] And they would always, in any kind of situation where anybody would present anything that

[00:08:32] even remotely sniffed of a challenge, the mere whiff of a challenge, they would say

[00:08:40] as if a religious incantation, the science and data.

[00:08:48] And that was it.

[00:08:51] Mandy Cohen, I'm a doctor and it's the science and the data and that's what we're

[00:08:57] relying on.

[00:08:58] We're relying on the science and the data, the data and the science.

[00:09:00] And then Roy Cooper would get up there and be like, I just want to thank Mandy Cohen

[00:09:04] for relying on the science and the data.

[00:09:08] That's it.

[00:09:09] That was all the explanations that we would get.

[00:09:10] Any kind of deeper dives, whatever, they could hang up on you and move along.

[00:09:14] And then you never, and that's the thing is once you go down that path, then you get

[00:09:17] thrown into group B. And then you can never ask another question again.

[00:09:21] Travis Fain asked a ventilation question.

[00:09:25] He was allowed back in because he didn't ask it in an aggressive way.

[00:09:28] He just asked about it.

[00:09:30] And then she gave an answer that was kind of like this, well, you know, that's just

[00:09:33] not one of the three Ws and the science and data.

[00:09:36] And that was it.

[00:09:38] Never asked about again.

[00:09:42] So now we've got the science on Capitol Hill.

[00:09:46] Anthony Fauci, he gave closed door testimony.

[00:09:50] And in that testimony, he revealed according to the UK Daily Mail, although now he's fighting

[00:09:55] back on this, on this framing of it in the hearing or he's trying to dispute this framing.

[00:10:00] He says that he made up the six foot social distancing rule and other measures to protect

[00:10:05] Americans from COVID.

[00:10:08] He says now in his testimony I just saw come down that that he says that's not true.

[00:10:14] He says that's a mischaracterization of what he said.

[00:10:18] I'm almost getting the sense that this guy has got a God complex and he doesn't even

[00:10:21] know he's lying.

[00:10:23] He doesn't even know anymore.

[00:10:24] He just goes back and forth between whatever he needs to say at any given point.

[00:10:30] He's throwing his subordinates under the bus about these private email accounts that they

[00:10:34] were running in order to avoid FOIA requests, which, oh, by the way, that was kind of how

[00:10:40] the state of North Carolina handled its crafting of the covid metrics and responses.

[00:10:47] Did you know who was behind all of that?

[00:10:49] Did you know all of the members of that of that team?

[00:10:52] How about at the Mecklenburg County level?

[00:10:53] Did you know who was on that on that board of advisors who was making all of the recommendations

[00:10:59] to Dina Diorio, the county manager, the science and data?

[00:11:06] Right.

[00:11:07] That's what it was.

[00:11:08] That's only what it was.

[00:11:09] Don't ask any more questions, just put your faith in GovCo UK Daily Mail, quote, speaking

[00:11:16] to counsel on behalf of the House Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic earlier this year,

[00:11:21] Fauci told Republicans that the six foot social distancing rule, quote, sort of just appeared

[00:11:28] and that he did not recall how it came about.

[00:11:31] Quote, you know, I don't recall.

[00:11:34] It just sort of appeared, he said, according to committee transcripts.

[00:11:39] When pressed on how the rule came about, he added that he was not aware of any studies

[00:11:44] that supported the social distancing and conceded that such studies would be very difficult to

[00:11:49] do.

[00:11:51] In addition to not recalling any evidence supporting social distancing, Fauci also told

[00:11:56] the committee's counsel that he did not remember reading anything to support the idea that

[00:12:02] masking kids would prevent covid.

[00:12:06] He was asked, quote, Do you recall reviewing any studies or data supporting masking for

[00:12:11] children?

[00:12:13] And he responded, quote, I might have, but I don't recall specifically that I did.

[00:12:19] The pandemic patriarch also testified that he had not followed any studies after the

[00:12:24] fact regarding the impacts that forced mask wearing had on the children, of which there

[00:12:28] have been many.

[00:12:30] And this is part of the problem.

[00:12:33] Once they put their measures in place, any kind of reversal of the measures was apparently

[00:12:44] viewed as a mistake.

[00:12:48] Right.

[00:12:49] Oh, we can't look at this.

[00:12:50] We can't reverse it.

[00:12:51] We can't tweak it.

[00:12:52] We can't we can't say, hey, you know what?

[00:12:55] Kids under five is fine, even though we knew that we were talking about this very early

[00:13:00] on in the pandemic.

[00:13:02] About how kids don't seem to be transmitters.

[00:13:04] They don't.

[00:13:05] And it may have had something to do with the underdevelopment of their A.C.E. inhibitors

[00:13:11] or whatever those things are called.

[00:13:12] Right.

[00:13:13] The there's something in the lungs.

[00:13:14] I don't know.

[00:13:15] But like the kids don't have them fully formed.

[00:13:16] And so or the receptors rather not inhibitors, but the receptors, they that there was something

[00:13:21] there may be something to that.

[00:13:23] And so they're not they're not vectors of transmission.

[00:13:28] Lots of other things.

[00:13:29] Absolutely.

[00:13:30] Any time I'm around a child, I get sick almost within like 12 to 48 minutes.

[00:13:37] So we knew early on.

[00:13:42] But any attempt to get them to dial something back or to reassess was met with gaslighting.

[00:13:48] It was met with resistance.

[00:13:50] How dare you question this is the science and data bow before the science and data and

[00:13:56] the experts.

[00:13:58] All of this stuff was sold with an appeal to authority.

[00:14:01] That's a tactic, right?

[00:14:02] This appeal to expertise, to authority.

[00:14:06] Who are you to question me?

[00:14:08] I have doctor in front of my name.

[00:14:10] I have these credentials.

[00:14:12] You don't.

[00:14:13] I experienced this with my own doctor when they tried to get me to get a booster.

[00:14:18] And I said, no, I think I'm done.

[00:14:20] I appreciate it, though.

[00:14:21] Like at the beginning, I got the two shots, didn't know what was going down.

[00:14:25] You guys sold it as this thing.

[00:14:26] And now I'm off the train.

[00:14:27] You know, it's like, fine.

[00:14:28] I departed the train.

[00:14:31] And that wasn't sufficient.

[00:14:32] I end up in an argument with my doctor in the doctor's office.

[00:14:35] Like, I don't think this is the way this appointment supposed to go.

[00:14:39] Like I was here for a blood lab draw.

[00:14:45] But they really wanted me to take the booster and I really did not want to.

[00:14:50] And I mean, because I've gotten covid two times at least since I had the original shots.

[00:14:55] So I'm good, you know.

[00:14:57] And the things we knew about viruses, they're going to virus.

[00:15:02] They behave certain ways.

[00:15:03] They're viruses.

[00:15:04] We know how they behave, generally speaking.

[00:15:06] Now, the actual impacts and symptoms of all the viruses are different, but we know how

[00:15:10] they behave.

[00:15:12] They tend to become more contagious, but less severe.

[00:15:17] With fluctuations, obviously, year to year to year, but they're going to.

[00:15:21] It's with us now.

[00:15:22] It's endemic.

[00:15:24] And I was always on board with the idea of herd immunity.

[00:15:27] And of course, at the very beginning, how dare you suggest such a thing?

[00:15:32] And people got terrified because of what Andrew Cuomo did up in New York, putting all of the

[00:15:37] elderly people into these, you know, quarantined nursing homes where they all just got sick

[00:15:43] and died.

[00:15:45] Which actually ended up costing them a congressional seat because the population declined so much.

[00:15:49] UK Daily Mail continues that the committee investigating the origins of covid discovered

[00:15:57] that Tony the Science Fauci's former top aide, Dr. David Moran's, more more more

[00:16:04] ends, sorry.

[00:16:05] More ends, not more on more ends, routinely conducted work on his personal email account

[00:16:11] and deleted files to avoid government transparency laws under the Freedom of Information Act.

[00:16:17] His disregard for FOIA requests was so blatant that he bragged in emails to colleagues that

[00:16:23] he learned how to make official correspondence disappear.

[00:16:26] More ends did not Foushee.

[00:16:28] More ends did that.

[00:16:29] He can make correspondence disappear and that he would delete things that he didn't want

[00:16:33] to see in The New York Times.

[00:16:36] Emails from more ends uncovered by the committee further revealed that he boasted about having

[00:16:41] a secret back channel to Fauci where he could clandestinely communicate with the former

[00:16:47] NIAID director.

[00:16:50] Also, Fauci admitted to the committee in January that he never looks at the grants

[00:16:57] that he signs off on.

[00:17:00] Some of which total in the millions.

[00:17:02] And I saw part of this earlier today where he was asked about this and it's just like,

[00:17:08] oh, there are so many of these grants that come in and so somebody has to sign them.

[00:17:11] But you know, he's got all these underlings that basically do all the approvals and then

[00:17:15] it just comes across his desk and he just signs it.

[00:17:17] But be aware, they've never funded any gain of function research anywhere.

[00:17:23] He knows that to be true even though he doesn't read the grants before he signs them.

[00:17:28] And you are an idiot for having any questions about this obviously logical and efficient

[00:17:35] and effective management mechanism.

[00:17:39] He said he was not certain that foreign labs that receive U.S. grant money such as the

[00:17:43] with the Wuhan Institute for Virology or of Virology, which was studying coronaviruses.

[00:17:50] He wasn't aware that they were using U.S. taxpayer dollars at the time the pandemic began.

[00:17:55] And he wasn't aware that they were operating at the he wasn't certain that they operated

[00:18:00] the same standards as American labs.

[00:18:03] That seems like a kind of a big deal.

[00:18:05] He also said that the money he gave out as part of the NIAID grant process did not go

[00:18:09] through any national security reviews.

[00:18:13] So we got that going for us.

[00:18:14] I'll go and I'm going to go into more depth on his performance today on tomorrow's program.

[00:18:20] Well, I had time to watch it and pull audio and such.

[00:18:26] So I will pass back on that for you tomorrow.

[00:18:30] Meanwhile, the Biden administration is trying to look like it's getting tough on the border.

[00:18:36] Right.

[00:18:37] But behind the scenes, it's operating a program of mass amnesty for migrants.

[00:18:42] The New York Post reports that data shows since twenty twenty two, more than three

[00:18:46] hundred fifty thousand asylum cases that were filed by migrants have been closed by

[00:18:52] the U.S. government if the applicants do not have a criminal record or are otherwise not

[00:18:58] deemed a threat to the country.

[00:19:00] This means that while the migrants are not granted or denied asylum, they are removed

[00:19:06] from the legal system and no longer required to check in with authorities.

[00:19:12] The move allows them to legally indefinitely roam about the U.S. without fear of deportation.

[00:19:22] Roam if you want.

[00:19:25] Roam around the world.

[00:19:27] It effectively lets them slip through the cracks.

[00:19:30] Andrew Arthur, a former immigration judge who now works for the Center for Immigration

[00:19:34] Studies, said this is just a massive amnesty under the guise of prosecutorial discretion.

[00:19:40] You're basically allowing people who don't have a right to be in the United States to

[00:19:43] be here indefinitely.

[00:19:45] ICE officers back that up.

[00:19:47] They say they have seen an increase in cases of such migrants committing crimes after their

[00:19:51] asylum cases have been dismissed.

[00:19:53] And that forces agents to restart the removal proceedings, which typically takes years.

[00:20:01] Since Biden assumed office, the Post reports 77 percent of asylum seekers have been allowed

[00:20:07] to remain.

[00:20:10] That is about 500,000 of the 648,000 who applied for asylum.

[00:20:17] Six hundred forty eight thousand applicants since Biden got in.

[00:20:21] So once the cases are closed, migrants are no longer in what's called removal proceedings.

[00:20:27] And so they're not subject to deportation.

[00:20:29] The government's default position for all migrants admitted at the border.

[00:20:33] The migrants are under no obligation to leave the U.S. and once their cases are dismissed,

[00:20:38] the person is no longer monitored by ICE.

[00:20:42] That means they don't have to regularly check in.

[00:20:45] Unlike anybody that is still pursuing an asylum claim.

[00:20:48] And once a migrant's case is terminated, the person can reapply for asylum or seek other

[00:20:53] forms of legal status in the United States.

[00:20:58] In April, U.S. authorities in the Southwest intercepted.

[00:21:02] This is just last month or two months ago, April.

[00:21:06] An average of five thousand nine hundred ninety.

[00:21:09] So six thousand, we'll call it.

[00:21:12] They intercepted an average of six thousand migrants every day.

[00:21:19] That's and that's that's just the number that we know of.

[00:21:23] Those are the ones that got intercepted.

[00:21:25] That doesn't count the gotaways.

[00:21:28] The ones who escaped detection and arrest.

[00:21:32] Six thousand a day is just too bad Joe Biden can't do anything about it.

[00:21:39] Just going to have to give everybody asylum and then and then release them from it.

[00:21:44] So just mass amnesty.

[00:21:46] And by the way, this is not this is not legal.

[00:21:50] When Mayorkas was up on Capitol Hill a couple of weeks back, you're you're supposed to be

[00:21:55] reviewing each of these cases and they're not.

[00:21:58] They're just doing blanket dispositions.

[00:22:01] They're just saying all of y'all's applications are now moved out of the asylum process.

[00:22:06] They just release them.

[00:22:08] This mass amnesty.

[00:22:13] Like if you weren't intentionally trying to break everything, what would you be doing

[00:22:17] differently?

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[00:23:11] Hunter Biden's trials underway.

[00:23:13] Jury selection today.

[00:23:14] We'll we'll be back on that one for you tomorrow.

[00:23:19] Also get this.

[00:23:20] Remember when Joe Biden sat for that interview with the special counsel Robert Herr and.

[00:23:27] Her then came out and said, well, you know, we could try to prosecute him for the the

[00:23:32] taking of all of the classified documents and storing them in cardboard boxes in his garage

[00:23:37] and moving them all around and having them in his office and all the stuff over decades

[00:23:41] like during like even before he was president, like when he was not allowed to have these

[00:23:45] documents.

[00:23:48] He said, well, we wouldn't prosecute him because we probably couldn't get a jury to convict

[00:23:53] him because he would come across as an elderly, confused old guy with memory problems, a sympathetic

[00:24:04] defendant.

[00:24:07] And that, of course, outraged, you know, President Tapioca.

[00:24:13] And so he was like.

[00:24:14] Conference, and he gets out there and I think about how dare you?

[00:24:20] How dare you and all this other stuff?

[00:24:23] And made him look even worse.

[00:24:25] And then, of course, they had to do some cleanup on the stuff because he lied during the press

[00:24:28] conference because he just lies.

[00:24:30] And he has he's a liar.

[00:24:31] He has been a liar his entire career.

[00:24:33] And so.

[00:24:36] In order to give people the full picture as to whether or not he was what special counsel

[00:24:42] Robert Heard described him as or what Joe Biden tried to portray himself as, albeit

[00:24:47] very poorly in that press conference, as, you know, completely with it and totally not

[00:24:52] senile.

[00:24:53] So I guess we should prosecute him.

[00:24:54] But whatever the DOJ now says they do not want to release the audio tape of the interview.

[00:25:05] Because a.

[00:25:09] This is their excuse now, because the Republicans have said, well, would you just give us the

[00:25:13] audio tape so we'll ensure that, you know.

[00:25:18] What was transcribed, what was actually said, you guys are disputing.

[00:25:24] Like your performance during this testimony.

[00:25:26] So let's take a listen to it.

[00:25:28] And the White House is like, no, oh, no.

[00:25:33] And let's be clear, both the White House and Democrats and media, but I repeat myself and

[00:25:37] the Republicans, they all they are on the same page as to why the audio.

[00:25:45] Could be problematic.

[00:25:47] Right.

[00:25:49] Everybody understands the whole point here is that it's going to cast Joe Biden in a

[00:25:52] very bad light.

[00:25:53] It's going to make him seem exactly as special counsel Robert Heard described him.

[00:25:59] Elderly, confused, couldn't remember dates and stuff, which, of course, would raise a

[00:26:05] whole bunch of questions about whether or not he is fit to serve.

[00:26:09] And they don't want that out.

[00:26:10] And that's the reason Republicans do want it out.

[00:26:13] So.

[00:26:14] The Justice Department has to come up with another explanation.

[00:26:17] So what do they do?

[00:26:19] They do a filing and run over to Politico to give them a heads up on the filing.

[00:26:24] And here's the cover story.

[00:26:26] The Justice Department is seizing.

[00:26:29] Wait a minute, I thought only Republicans could see this is a big day here.

[00:26:33] I didn't even realize it.

[00:26:35] This is a big day.

[00:26:36] This is historic.

[00:26:37] I thought only Republicans could seize or pounce for that matter.

[00:26:41] But apparently the DOJ can as well.

[00:26:43] They're seizing on an increasingly common fear as it fights to prevent the release of

[00:26:48] the audio of President Joe Biden's interview with former special counsel Robert Heard that

[00:26:52] it could spawn deep fakes.

[00:26:55] The concern raised as part of an overnight court filing late on Friday is the latest

[00:27:00] step in a multi-pronged legal battle aimed at forcing the Justice Department to release

[00:27:04] the audio which Biden claimed executive privilege over last month.

[00:27:09] Bradley Weinheimer, an associate deputy attorney general at DOJ, argued in an affidavit included

[00:27:16] in the filing on Friday night that the release of the audio would create a, quote, substantial

[00:27:20] risk that malicious actors could alter the recording.

[00:27:25] Because thank God there are no other audio or video clips of Joe Biden that would fall

[00:27:31] into the wrong hands and people could make deep fakes.

[00:27:36] Weinheimer added that while it's already possible to create a deep fake, okay, well,

[00:27:40] they do know that then.

[00:27:41] Okay, so I thought they were just idiots.

[00:27:42] So no, they're just liars.

[00:27:44] Okay, so they're not ignorant of the technology and how it could be used with all of the existing

[00:27:49] audio and video of Biden going back, you know, 50 freaking years.

[00:27:54] You don't even need that much.

[00:27:56] You take one State of the Union speech and you got Joe Biden to do whatever you want

[00:28:01] with the AI.

[00:28:02] You can make him say whatever you want.

[00:28:04] DOJ believes that releasing the audio would, quote, make it far more likely that malicious

[00:28:09] actors could pass off a deep fake as the authentic recording.

[00:28:13] And this is exactly the opposite of the truth.

[00:28:19] If somebody wants to do a deep fake of Joe Biden, they already have enough material to

[00:28:25] do it.

[00:28:26] So, let's say I was an AI expert.

[00:28:29] What?

[00:28:30] You don't know that?

[00:28:32] I did do a graphic the other day.

[00:28:34] That was my first foray into the AI.

[00:28:36] I made a little graphic for a Facebook post in the neighborhood Facebook group.

[00:28:42] It was of some snakes in a police lineup.

[00:28:45] Anyway, somebody could take all the audio and make Joe Biden say whatever they want

[00:28:49] to make him say.

[00:28:50] Do you know how you would rebut that?

[00:28:52] You know how you would say, that's a deep fake.

[00:28:55] Here is the, right, here is the actual audio recording.

[00:29:00] See, releasing the audio, the actual audio guards against the deep fakery.

[00:29:08] Do you think they're aware of that?

[00:29:09] Do you think they know that?

[00:29:12] Surely, the DOJ would not promulgate such misinformation or disinformation.

[00:29:20] No.

[00:29:21] I guess that's some sort of privilege.

[00:29:26] I don't know.

[00:29:27] I'm not sure which kind it is, but it's kind of comical, the lengths that they're going

[00:29:30] to to try to prevent this audio from getting out.

[00:29:32] All right.

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