The Robinson Affair (09-20-2024--Hour1)

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go in on!

[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast.

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It is her live every day from noon to three on WBT radio in Charlotte, and if you want exclusive

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_04]: content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream ideally show prep with all

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: the links become a patron go to thepcalinnershow.com, make sure you hit the subscribe button

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_04]: get every episode for free, write your smartphone or tablet, and again thank you so much for

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_04]: your support.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So let me first start off by telling you what you will not get from me today when talking

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_04]: about the Mark Robinson story.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to get from me an expression of belief whether it's true or not, because

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know and I don't trust CNN.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust Andrew Kaczynski, what would the whole Unibommer thing?

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just kidding.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not the Unibommer, I was Ted Kaczynski, go into this?

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_04]: CNN's history of promulgating quote unquote fake news is too lengthy for me to have confidence

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: in this story which I have read now three times and I've got some questions and they

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_04]: are not addressed in the report which went on for like 10 printed pages.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So they were not obviously restricted in what they are for space reasons, right?

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: On their website, they gave them all the opportunity to tell the full story how they

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: chose to tell it.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Kaczynski and someone else named M. Steck.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: E. M is the first name, I guess maybe short for Emily?

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: M. Steck, S. T. E. C. K.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Because when I read stories in the media my first inclination based on just a lifetime

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: of dare I call indoctrination or training is to believe that people would not torch their

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: credibility and report stories such as this one especially unless they had solid proof, right?

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But over the last 10 years it's become very obvious that they will.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That media outlets will promote stories without confirmation of truth.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: They will also bury stories that are true that might hurt a particular political party

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm sorry if that sounds too partisan or paranoid for you, but that's where I have

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: arrived at.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where I have arrived at.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You can arrive at a different place and that's totally fine.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of my problem, it's a burden and a blessing is that I try to see as many different angles

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: on a story and approach it from different perspectives as I can.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously if I'm a reporter and I've been assigned to go out and cover the county's biggest

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: watermelon at the fair I don't really need to see a lot of perspective on that.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There aren't a lot of different angles to take on that particular story.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to do a lot of research into large watermelons and the science behind

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: growing large watermelons and all of that kind of thing.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But on a story like this I expect what's the edge, it's extraordinary claims, require

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: extraordinary evidence.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to show me extraordinary evidence for these claims and what I found lacking in the CNN report

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: is deri defer to authority, but where are the IT and security experts quoted in the story

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: about Mark Robinson?

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Where's the forensic analysis?

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I have something a little bit more elemental.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Where did you get the screenshots from?

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's not even a mention.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Are they screenshots only?

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that what you were given?

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I have no doubt at this point, although I could be wrong, but from what I have

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: been told so far by different from my own sources is that this stuff was handed over to

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: CNN.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay?

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So what was handed over?

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: What were you given?

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't say, because in Skie doesn't say in his live hits that he's been doing with

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: the CNN anchors.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: He does not explain how they came by this information, how did they get an email address

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: that was used by Mark Robinson?

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: We are told.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the email address is.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody is published it.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody is published what this email address is for his own privacy, of course.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: While we talk about and post all of the sexually repulsive things that he is alleged

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_04]: to have put onto a porn forum, which, okay, I have to acknowledge, I did not know

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: that these types of forums.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm not surprised, but I kind of am.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But I have no idea what kind of a culture exists if you can call it that on these kinds

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: of sites where people get on first off, I am to believe that people go on to these

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: porn forums and they use their real names in their profiles.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm to believe that, that they put their real, they put their real name into their profile

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: with a photo of themselves.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Or is that just something Mark Robinson did?

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what I'm being told I have to believe here.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm pretty sure, again, not being an expert on this stuff, but I'm pretty sure

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that if you're on a porn site, you're probably adopting a fake name rather than using

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: your real name.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, but P to use this, this, this username, mini soldier, MI and I, S O L D R.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Mini soldier or mini soldier, I don't know.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if Mark Robinson has ever used that handle.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what would have been a good question for Andrew Kaczynski to ask Mark Robinson

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: in the interview that he did get?

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever used that username?

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good question to ask.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't hear it asked.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a foundational type of question.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: First off, is this your email?

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Second off, have you used this username?

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Third, for what websites have you used it?

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, these are building blocks when you're doing an investigative piece like this.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You showing me screenshots does not automatically convince me.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You know why?

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where you got the screenshots.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: You're telling me to trust a screenshot that came from a pay-walled porn site from 15 years ago

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and you won't tell me how you got it.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You're also not explaining to me why you would not have gone through to verify in some sort of a forensic IT way.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You got the email address and you...

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and by the way, did you get confirmation that it's his email?

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: They got one unnamed anonymous advisor.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea what that means.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Once again with these anonymous sources, you telling me,

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: it's an advisor, a political advisor who requested anonymity,

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, due to the sensitivity of the subject matter.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't tell me...

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't tell me whether I should believe this person.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Does that mean that I don't believe all of this stuff?

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: It does not.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It does not.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But those are the first questions that I have.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I was on with Bowlin Beth this morning on their program, Good Morning BT.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I said, one of the things I do is I start a list.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And I can add to it as I go and I could take things off.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It's my list.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I can do it however I want.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And on the list, I have...

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's assume the stories are true.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And then let's assume the stories are false.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: What if they are not true?

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is a super...

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: This exercise is so important when you are doing the kind of life-destroying article

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: that CNN posted.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what this is.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You realize that, right?

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: This is life-destroying for this guy and his family.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's one of the things in journalism school that you are taught

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: is to weigh the benefits and the costs.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So what if it's false?

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Mark Robinson has denied it.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Is he telling you the truth?

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I reached out to the campaign.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, if you want to come on the show, happy to have you one.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And we can talk about all this.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And I will ask these questions.

[00:09:40] But...

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_04]: What if it's false?

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He denies.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He ever made the posts and he says it's not him.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He claims AI is to blame for this.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that possible?

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Did the journalists at CNN, did they explore...

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: whether or not it could be a fake?

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And what's also interesting to me is that he hasn't denied

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: any of his past comments that are on his Facebook page.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And I also note in this CNN story

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that all of the most egregious things that are attributed to his

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_04]: mini soldier account on this new Africa website

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: that it's only on that site.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not on...

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not on Black Planet.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not on Facebook.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not anywhere else.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's because he was on this pay-world

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: porn site and so we felt free or to say these things.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's possible.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I can totally understand that response.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why you go through the exercise of asking the questions

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and anticipating what the answers might be.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Simply asking questions does not make a case.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to get the answers and so when you're going through

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're planning for an interview, you ask yourself,

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: okay, I want to know this question,

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: so I'm going to ask this question,

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_04]: what are the potential answers going to be?

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you adjust the follow-up space

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: on what those potential answers are.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, stories are powerful.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: They help us make sense of things

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: to understand experiences.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Stories connect us to the people of our past

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_04]: while transcending generations.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_04]: They help us process the meaning of life

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and art stories are told through images and videos.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Preserve your stories with creative video.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Started in 1997 in Mint Hill, North Carolina.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It was the first company to provide this valuable service

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: converting images, photos and videos

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: into high quality produced, slide shows, videos and albums.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: The trusted, talented, and dedicated team

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: to create a creative video will go over all of the details

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: with you to create a perfect project, satisfaction guaranteed.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Drop them off in person or mail them,

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: they'll be ready in a week or two.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Memorial videos for your loved ones.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Videos for rehearsal dinners, weddings,

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: graduations, Christmas, family vacations, birthdays

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: or just your family stories all told through images.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what your photos and videos are.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: They are your life, told through the eyes of everyone around you

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and all who came before you

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and they will tell others to come who you are.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Visit creativevideo.com.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I do not know if the story about Mark Robinson is true.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it could be true.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It could not be true.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Parts of it could be true.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And for lefties who were celebrating all of this,

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: the biggest problem with the CNN story

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_04]: is that CNN did it.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the biggest problem for conservatives.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't trust CNN either.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's an automatic knee jerk reaction to say,

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_04]: not true.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's not conservative's fault.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That's CNN's fault.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: They made that bit.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: There are coverage of various topics.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it won the same lines.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Hunter Biden's laptop.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That one, CNN couldn't figure out if it was true or not,

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: couldn't track down any kind of connected tissue

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: in that one with real life events or anything like that.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Couldn't figure that one out.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But this all over it,

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_04]: or the steel dossier,

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: or Russia collusion,

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: or covering for Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't trust CNN.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me go over to Mark here.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Mark.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the program.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, Pete.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I have to say that I agree with you.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: CNN has created this problem.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I have problems with screenshots as that.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And Mark Robinson made the claim of false

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: society ability and then the son bite from Scott

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hoffman of Winthrop, and that saying that a brought

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: receipts, well, that's a possibility.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the reason why I called is that being a social

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: responsible from helping users understand

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: the technology capabilities.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: When you take a computer home to being your home office,

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: your small office, you want to run business out of your home.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I heard on the day of the broadcast and archives are available

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: since the passing of Rush Limbaugh.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Less than 15 years ago, and preface it with that he spoke

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: to a number of informed credential individuals researching

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: artificial intelligence.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The analogy in nature from analogy in nature that

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_03]: communicates to people is that the instant instincts

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: of honey bees, how they live in act in the hive,

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: was the state of the research through computer forensics.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And is the final test in their principles that are beyond my

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: pay grade, doing that?

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But it does follow you test you propose on high processes.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You test the high processes and you look for falseifiability.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: All right,

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Mark, I'm up against the news break. So I think

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got you.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I've got what you were saying.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate the call.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, real quick, let me introduce you to my friends Gabriel

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and Michelle to lifelong North Carolinians who are passionate

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: about everything North Carolina.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: They own simply NC goods, which is a curated box service

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: of only North Carolina made items.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Food, beverages, home decor, skincare, art work,

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: pretty much anything NC.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And times running out to get the holiday themed box.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So order before October 15th, these boxes

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: make great gifts for friends and family.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Even yourself, you can do that house warming, birthdays,

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Christmas, host gifts, grab some extra ones.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Have on hand for when you need a quick gift.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Support small North Carolina businesses the easy way.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Visit simply NC goods dot com slash Pete and check out

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: the various sizes, especially the jumbo box just for the holidays

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: that simply NC goods dot com slash Pete.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_04]: CNN ran this story yesterday.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: They dropped the story.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently they had reached out to the Robinson campaign

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: two days prior.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So on Tuesday saying, hey, we've got this story.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Want to interview you for it.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And Robinson finally gave them an interview yesterday,

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: which then precipitated the drop of the story,

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: which if you recall yesterday's program I said at the time.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's how these rumors start up is that the media

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: outlet builds the story and then they come to the target

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: asking them to comment on it.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And after that happens when people are asked to comment,

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: that's when the news starts to take off.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And the rumor starts swirling all around.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what we were dealing with yesterday for most of the show

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: until the very end of the program went seeing and dropped the story.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So I spent my afternoon, I don't know what you ended up doing yesterday

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: after noon through the evening, but I got to come through gross nasty

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: write ups.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: They're almost, they're like so beyond.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's so beyond the descriptions of sex and stuff that this

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: this account had posted.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_04]: There's so beyond.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It just yeah, the is gross.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Gross, gross stuff.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that was Mark Robinson's fake account.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I cannot confirm it and CNN is asking me to trust them

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and their due diligence and I do not.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's the position I'm in.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm trying to piece together the info as best I can based on the

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_04]: limited information that CNN has given me about their

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: investigative method.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And by limited, I mean virtually none.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They they haven't documented any of the like the big thing is

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: had you find out about the story.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I've been told came from Josh Stein's camp, which they're trying to distance themselves from now.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You got lefties that are claiming it came from Republican consultants and Tom Tullis' office or something.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would they do it?

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would they do it now?

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't make any sense.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll get into the politics of it.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me get over to the phones here.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: This is Charlie.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey Charlie, welcome to the show.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, yeah, I tried to follow things pretty close.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And the way I look at a Josh Stein and right Cooper out of the same old.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it was quite a few years ago, but Cooper going to lie above my Corey

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: so close to the election that McCoy didn't have a chance to crack that

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: ruin his political career forever.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So I would and I would Mark Robinson.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I listen to him enough that if he did something or said something,

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: he's he's man enough to stand up and admit it and explain to a why he did what he did or said what he said.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So I tend to think that C M M might be stretching something with AI.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, so here's the thing.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I think it's a convenient excuse or trap door to say,

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: AI, I do.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not to say that that's not what happened here.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but I think it's very easy for somebody if they were caught like this.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like let's assume that he did it.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Let's assume that the story is true.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: All those posts were his.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just take that for for the foundation of the argument.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Then you could you could very well turn around and claim that this is also a lab or

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_04]: it, you know, AI hoax.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's that's an unfalseifiable claim.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you go about determining whether that's true or not?

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So it would be a convenient excuse.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And also there, there may be a reason why he might not want to admit this versus

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: some of the other things that he stood by.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Namely, that those posts, he's talk in some of those posts.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He's talking about doing like nasty stuff like P tape, you know, the Russia hotel room

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: types of stuff with his sister in law, his wife's sister and somebody else all at the

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: same time.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So like so there, there are other people now that are implicated in this.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And if he admits that this is true that he made those posts, then what's the fallback?

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, okay, I posted that stuff, but it wasn't true.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he would have to argue if he's trying to preserve his marriage.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just seen them up stuff on CNN that I still have a time to see to believe Mark.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And so this is where we are left.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I appreciate the call Charlie.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And again, like I did, I have a list.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: The list actually is longer on let's assume that the story is true.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, one thing that the Robinson's could do is to come out and to speak about

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: this along with his sister in law.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they are saying this stuff never happened and that's not him, think about the

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: pain and the damage that whoever it was that did the op-o hit and handed it off to CNN

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: who then carried it over the finish line.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And the Democrats who are downright giddy today, I mean, they are giddy.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: They get to make all of the sexual jokes that they have been like storing up.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're just unloading on all of their sexual jokes.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They are there and this is why here's the thing Democrats, I have seen what you cheer for.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I have seen who you defend.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't believe you that you are offended by anything this man may or may.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Not have written in that new Africa website.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't care about that sexual stuff, the DV and see whatever you don't care about that.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I know that you just, you know that Republicans care about that.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You want to embarrass and humiliate.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why you're trying to make every single Republican in the state of North Carolina,

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_04]: voter grassroots activist elected official.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You want everybody now to be tied to Mark Robinson.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's just politics, right?

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But what does that mean?

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_04]: What does it mean when you demand that a Republican has to now play your D&D game,

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: your defendant disavow?

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_04]: What does that mean?

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you suggesting that everybody knew that all these Republicans knew about these posts?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And that they support the posts?

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that what you're saying?

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, I come back to the LBJ line.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, reportedly attributed to him, don't know if it actually is.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: There's another piece of, you know, legend when the truth is when the legend becomes truth,

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: print the legend, right?

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: LBJ's campaign manager is instructed to start circulating rumors that is opponent,

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_04]: that LBJ's opponent is sleeping with pigs like in a sexual way.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And the campaign manager says, we can't do that.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We know that's not true.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And he says, well, I know it's not true.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to hear the SOB that deny it.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where we are right now.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter if it's true.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It does not matter if it's true to Democrats.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They believe it's true.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't get me wrong.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But if it turned out not to be true, it doesn't matter.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't care.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I would just want to hear him deny it.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's hilarious.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_04]: As if all of these other people

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: haven't been on porn sites or something, right?

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's background is, oh, no.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's the hypocrisy.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, your hypocrites too.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I could count the ways on that, too.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So what are we talking about?

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died by mom and my dad

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and all of us really helped take care of him as he got progressively worse.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_04]: 40 years ago there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Things are different today because of the work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Association of Western North Carolina.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great organization with awesome people.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_04]: They've got huge hearts.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been a supporter for like 25 years.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_04]: This cause means a lot to me.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I participate in the annual walk to Endals Heimers and I am leading a Charlotte team this year.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's called Peats Pack.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You can sign up and join the team and walk with me.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It's on October 19th at Trouest Field in Uptown.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Sign up at alz.org slash walk and then just look for my team, Peats Pack.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's also a link in the podcast description here.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Also I'm going to be emceeing the Gastonia walk on October 5th.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So make a team and join us or make a donation to help me hit my goal.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I would really appreciate it.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: There are a bunch of other walks around the Carolinas and you can go to alz.org

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: for all of the dates and locations.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_04]: We are closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you can help us get there, we would really appreciate it.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Will you come walk with me for a different future for families for more time for treatments?

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_04]: This is why I walk.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Russ says,

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I believe Robinson?

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The guy has a history of stepping on rakes but he's also been pretty straightforward

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: with other controversies.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I trust CNN?

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Unequivocally know.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: They have demonstrated over and over that they will run with out of context information

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_04]: provable lies and then ignore other stories as long as it helps their party.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: As far as credibility, I don't think many journalists care about that anymore

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: as long as they are perceived as doing right by their team,

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Republicans or Democrats.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Also I haven't gone into detail on the story but from the coverage a lot of the comments

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_04]: he allegedly made would be resume and answers if he had a different letter behind his name.

[00:26:40] That's.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_04]: These Democrats are the,

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: these are the people that defended the woman doing the only fans or chatterbait.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think was the name of the platform she was on where she was engaged in sex with

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: her husband and maybe other men as well live on live streams for paying customers and such.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And then remember when that was discovered,

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and then the Democrats all rallied around her.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So like don't tell me that you care about these types of sexual conversations or comments or acts.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: When I know you don't, you don't.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So no, you're not going to try to position yourself as some moral authority on this stuff on the sexual stuff.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me go to the phones here.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: This is Dave.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Dave.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the program.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The last guy.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I totally agree with what he said.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: How he framed that for with.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But my thing is certainly skeptical of.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Of CNN.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That's for the reason you laid out.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm looking at, I'm looking at like,

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: very just read back to me what he said.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He said he was a black Nazi.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the end of the other thing.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that was one post was him just screaming.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Hang on.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just one.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm a black Nazi completely.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it wasn't in response to anything.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just a just one.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like a comment thrown up on a board.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: About transgender.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_04]: There was something else.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he said, um, where is it here about how he?

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, he likes.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: He says I, I like watching.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I apologize for the word.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Tranny on girl porn.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That's bleeping hot.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It takes the man out while leaving the man in.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I'm a quote, perv and he put it in quotes.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a perv too.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So you said he does it.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He actually say transgender.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: No, he says, tranny.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Tranny.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So my skepticism was.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I still skeptical to call the way we were all.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know,

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: he's been railing on that.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That issue, you know, so it just seems, it just seems

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: convenient that they, you know,

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: find a post to him.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So right.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So this can go either way.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Number one, if it's not true and somebody else has

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_04]: concocted this, uh, all of these, these posts, right?

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Then it makes sense that the left being always

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_04]: hyper focused on sex, um, that they would take the things

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: that mean the most to them and highlight that he's a hypocrite

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_04]: because in their minds, anybody that is against, uh, you know,

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_04]: doing transition surgeries on minors and not letting men play on

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_04]: women's teams like you must obviously be a closeted, uh,

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_04]: transgender or or attracted to trans or something.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And the not and the not being to that, you know,

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: they they aligned him with Trump who's also not seeing.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So he would therefore be a black Nazi, you know.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So we it's all of these things that he is that he has been

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about there, uh, that allegedly from this,

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: from these comments, right?

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: They all fit the bill for the things that he's accused of.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So now that could also be, um,

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_04]: that, whoa, alright.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what that sound was but that was really loud.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, they've I appreciate the call.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: The, uh, but the other side of that is maybe he's always

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: been talking about this, right?

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why he's so focused on it.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Then and why he focuses on this stuff now.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So I see that like that could go either way and know that's not

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_04]: a double untandra.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, John, welcome to the show.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, John.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, how you doing?

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I'm good.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: One time first time.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to go along with the, uh,

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the previous call is this is too perfect.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just too perfect.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: First of all,

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: it's unverified just like Dan Rathers C.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Way 8 documents during, uh,

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: WKP, um, snow two part verification.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know where it came from.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Who the heck saved screenshots from some random

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: conversation on a porn site for 50 years?

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't even make sense.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know if they were saved back then or if it was,

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: if they were taken from behind a paywall or like the way back

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: machine or something like that.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, 15 years.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's quite a yeah, quite an archive.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is to everything that it's supposedly

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: being said by Mark Robinson sounds 100% more like it

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: came out of the mouth of some pink or schmuck.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: This, there's not a Republican on a earth that calls

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: himself a Nazi.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what the left says.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they call though.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they call Republicans Nazis.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, two year point.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It, it's a little too perfect.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The comments all line up.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, maybe that's because he did say it.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is who he is right?

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to keep that in in the mind as a potential explanation.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That'll do it for this episode.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for listening.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I could not do the show without your support and the support of the

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_04]: businesses that advertise on the podcast.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_04]: here.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_04]: You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to the peat

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: calendar show dot com again.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for listening and don't break anything while

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gone.