The return of the 'Maryland Man' human trafficker! (06-09-2025--Hour3)

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They have fought so hard for Maryland Man to get back into America and now it's going to happen. Total and complete victory and vindication for Democrats. That's how I read it. Well, one would think so, except that he's been charged with human smuggling and conspiracy to commit alien smuggling, as well as firearms charges and other launder list of issues. And the Trump DJ has basically said, once he faces these charges and sentences he sentenced, he's going to go back twelve Salvador. So other than that, but other than the federal indictment and all of that, total victory for Democrats. Of course, because the process or something right right. Do process right. So we're talking about kill mar again with these Dickenzian names. Kill Maar Garcia. The Maryland man. This is the guy that we were told is just the I think he first started as a Maryland father or Maryland dad, and then they just went Maryland man. And so anyway, the Maryland man that was like the poster child for you know, Donald Trump, the evil you know, orange hitler man deporting just this Marylynd man. He's just a dad. He's just you know, regular guy who happened to you know, sneak into the country like what twelve years ago or something like that, and so he got deported back to his native country of El Salvador, but he wasn't supposed to be deported to El Salvador. He was supposed to be deported two different immigration courts ruled him to be deported, but he wasn't supposed to go back to El Salvador. So they messed up. And so I was saying, like from the beginning, well, just bring him back and then fly him someplace else. Problem solved, But apparently. We were some confusion with the L. Salvador thing too. And the finally is that Trump administration put forth. Basically it said that yeah, he is from El Salvador, it should go back there. His family had moved to a different country at one point, but he didn't go with them. He went to the border instead, right. Yeah, and also the imminent threat that he said he couldn't go back to L Salvador because to this Eighteenth Street gang would whack him because of his mom's business, that she was running out of her house or something. But yeah, turns out. That more about the fact he was MS thirteen. Well that's a little bit of a detail, yes, And also the mom's business is no longer operating, so that's off the table. Oh, and also the Eighteenth Street gang has been completely crushed by the President of l Salvador that came in on this get tough on crime platform that the people voted for. And so there really wasn't a threat there either. And now I'm going to go out on a limb, but I read through the indictments that came down from the grand jury out of Tennessee for this guy Garcia, now, and there's a there's a refers in there to the murder of an Eighteenth Street gang member's mother that Garcia may have been, may have been a part of or something. And that might actually be why the Eighteenth Street gang bangers wanted to whack him, was because he may have whacked somebody else's mother. Yes, And the indictment also alleges that he was part of the same smuggling ring that was responsible over the death of over fifty migrants in twenty twenty one. I think we all remember that tractor trailer that overturned, yep, And I think it was coming through Mexico into Texas and there were a bunch of it killed a bunch of migrants in there. Yeah, fifty people country. Yeah, lost their lives as part of their smuggling operation. Which this federal indictment goes through. They've got I think it was, was it six different co conspirators. They were just listed like CC one, two, three, four, five, six, whatever, And so they docum meant how and again this is a federal it's a grand jury, so we have to always you know, the caveat and indicting a ham sandwich and all of that. The defense doesn't get to be there. They don't get to present evidence. So with all of those caveats said, they outline how Garcia has been involved in this human trafficking ring for nine years. Nine years he has made more than one hundred trips from the border from the Mexican border throughout the entire camerl and yeah. To other places. And the indictment also talks about how he solicited nude photographs and videos of a minor and that he would sexually abuse the female that he was smuggling, which they used giant SUVs. They would rip out the back floorboards and put their drugs or guns. You know, he was also drug and gun trafficking charges were in there. They would put all the people, the drugs or the guns in there and then put the floorboards back and then till they were smuggling them in these SUVs, they. Ripped out the back seats or whatever. They added a row of seats. Remember we saw this when the there was I think a foyer request from a Tennessee newspaper. They got somehow or another, they got a tip that this guy had been popped by Tennessee Highway patrol and there was bodycam footage still on file from the law enforcement officers that pulled him over, and they were interviewing Garcia, and they were talking about how they had this extra row of seats so he was able in this Chevy suburban. He was able to transport like nine people at a time. And the cops were a little suspicious because he said he was bringing them up to work in like Saint Louis or something for construction work. But they had no luggage. It was very odd, no luggage in the car, yet you are bringing them to Saint Louis for a construction job. Yeah, that video a video is available on YouTube. It's a simple search for it. All you have to do is put you know, Kilmar Garcia, Tennessee cops and boom, it pops right up. Yeah, so this is Okay, so it's not okay, maybe it's not quite the total win for Democrats here that they were hoping for. You have a quote here or you're yeah, you were talking about in your piece. Maryland Democrats like Senator Chris van Holland are calling Garcia's return a due process win. So I'm curious how they go about separating Now this indictment has outlined these allegations, how do they go about separating themselves from just the due process argument that they were making for Oh, now we do have this guy and he is pretty bad. Yeah. Well, this is a pattern that we've been seeing for months now where they're defending criminal aliens who, you know, a lot of them have commenced sparely said crimes, and they're all they're all crying about, you know, due process for these folks. Well, these folks were here illegally in the first place. Okay, they a lot of them already had deportation sort around. That's due process. That is due process. Yeah, so, you know, I'm not sure how how defending these folks is a win for them, considering the polling has the majority of Americans saying they want not only the criminals gone, but they want everyone gone right, So we'll see where that plays out. But I mean we're seeing a win play out right now in California with Governor Knews. Yeah, I mean, he's got out of control riots which are being orchestrated by a group that's tied to a Mexican National Marxist group. From what I'm reading. The New York Post had an article about this, about this organization that's, you know, pumping up these these riots there and how there's actually a connection to former Vice President Kamala Harris, who apparently patted this group on the back several years ago. Is doing good work. Well, well, has she started a fund to bail out the rioters? Yet? That's the that's the real key, all right. So let me shift gears real quick, because here's a story that I had told and I had not gotten to yet. So I was happy to see that you wrote about it over at North State Journal. The Buncombe County Jail apparently not too good with the bookkeeping when it comes to the inmates funds. Like when you get arrested, if you have a bunch of money on you, they take that money from you and you they write it down or whatever, and apparently what they they hadn't been returning all of the money to everybody. Yeah, the State Owner's office didn't investigate about audit after they received a tip. And what they found was that the Buncomee County sheriffs Office had quote, did not return nineteen two and seventy two dollars to nineteen hundred and fourteen individuals that were released from custody. In some cases, those inmates were ote thousands of dollars, and the audit found that no one in the Sheriff's office was a sureing the funds were returned during the inmate release process. For one example, an inmate was released in April twenty twenty three and they were old over forty eight hundred dollars, so you know. Yeah, yeah, so show me the money. So they did. So the audit found they also were not reconciling what's called the inmate fund bank account. And this is where like if I got locked up and you wanted to give me money so I can buy cigarettes or I could buy food or whatever, in the. Commissary the commentsary account. Yeah, and so you could put money into those accounts whatever, and so that was all out of whack too. Yeah, three hundred and fifty four thousand, eight hundred and four dollars of unsupported balance, so not a lot bank fund. Yeah, and that's not a lot. There's this is three hundred and fifty thousand, you know, give or take. So all right, so they so the auditor does this audit, and from what I read in your piece, the sheriff, Quentin Miller up there the Sheriff's office is like, yeah, yeah, we'll fix this. Yeah. So they're just basically he didn't disagree, and he said that, you know, we need to get a different way of doing our ledger. There was some turnover and you know, some of it didn't some of the duties didn't transfer over the way they should have. And so they're they're going to do internal reimbursement process, you know, a way to get things you know, put through when when they're released during their release process. But also you know tracking the commissary problem. So that was that was a nice chunk of change, you know, similar to an audit that they just did it on the Swanna Noah Care facility where they were finding that you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent millions of dollars actually were spent on this care facility in Swanna Noah after Hurricane Heleen, which you know, it had laundries and showers and this kind of stuff, and that's great, folks needed that kind of stuff, But did they really need to be Did we really need to be paying over two hundred and twenty dollars per load of laundry is what the auditor found. So that was kind of interesting. Yes, So the auditor already doing some pretty good work in rooting some of this stuff out and hopefully we can you know, rain some of this in. Now, I know there's a bit of a running contest between Wait County, Buncom County, and Mecklimer County as to who has the worst sheriff. So I would put this audit of the Buncome County jail clearly in Buncome County's score column, you know, for worst sheriff, for the running for the worst sheriff. So I feel like I have to make a note of it because you know, I mean, now, look, nobody, he doesn't have employees stabbing each other like we have in Mecklimer County. But still, this is this goes on the ledger for him. So yes, yes, definitely. Ap Dylon. You could read her work at North State Journal NSG online. Also subscribe to her newsletter. More to the story on substack. Thanks ap We'll talk to you next week. Thanks Pete. All right, see him? All right? So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special days for mom and dad families making memories that are going to last a lifetime. But let me ask you, are all of those treasured moments from days gone by? Are they hidden away on old VCR tapes, eight millimeter films, photos slides? Are they preserved? 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But still that's a bit of a that's a negative or positive in the contest for worse shriff. But you just got to give it about forty eight hours and sheriff not my fault. McFadden here in Mecklenburg. He will come through. He'll pull ahead again. And he did, he absolutely did. So I get a press release. This did not contain a photo of him the top third of the piece of paper. It's usually like his big picture, like one third of the press releases have his picture on it, but this one didn't. I thought that was odd. Why doesn't he have his photo on this one? Well, here it is the Mecklimberk County Sheriff's office extends its deepest sympathy to the Zeller's family. We recognize the profound grief you continue to carry after the tragic loss of your son, and we are truly sorry for the additional pain caused by seeing the accused in recent media coverage promoting a detention center program. Yeah, the Sheriff's office they refurbished a room in the in the jail and they made it into a recording studio, and so it gives the inmates a chance to you know, do their rapping skills and such. Yeah, they built a music studio for the inmates. And the media coverage that they obviously coordinated with the Sheriff's office, they like did a big reveal. You know, here's the studio. Let's look at some inmates and the you know, the camera crews in there getting video of people playing music and singing or working the board or whatever. And the guy that's that's there that they brought in is an accused murderer. From November, this was the story from Queens City News at the time. One person has died after a shooting at an apartment complex in northeast Charlotte. This was November nineteenth, West arrowhead drive. One person pronounced dead at the scene. Well, they apparently picked up somebody suspected in the murder. He's been at the jail and he enrolled in the music program. And that's the guy. Think about that, your loved one has been murdered and the accused murderer is now on TV with the sheriff spinning all the hits. Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office does not typically notify families when residents are involved in media coverage. Inmates are involved, he calls them residents inmates are involved in media coverage. However, in this case, we acknowledge that given the circumstances, this should not have warrant or this should have warranted greater sensitivity. While outreach is not standard procedure, we sincerely apologize for failing to understand how this would affect the Zellers. Yeah, see, kind of a blind spot there, kind of a big blind spot, never thinking about the inmates as accused of doing a horrible thing to somebody else. All programs are voluntary in the center. We understand there may be concerns when families see if someone accused of a serious crime participating in a rehabilitative program. However, we help all residents with healing and rehabilitation. The purpose of our programs is not to determine guilt or innocence, but to offer support and structure for those willing to engage in change. The program in questions part of a broader initiative to provide voluntary rehabilitative opportunities to residence in our care. As mentioned, these programs are not based on the nature of an individual's charging, but rather on their conduct while in custody and their willingness to reflect on the circumstances that brought them to the detention center, confront addictions, address mental health challenges, and work towards becoming better citizens. This guy hasn't even stood trial, so we're back in the lead for worst Sheriff. I knew, I knew he would pull it out. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina? Just a quick drive up the mountain and cabins of Asheville. Is your connection. 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Call or text eight two eight, three six seven seventy sixty eight or check out all there is to offer at Cabins Offashville dot com and make memories that'll last a lifetime. I do not know why tax dollars are being used for a music studio in the jail. That's yeah, I cannot defend that, but that's what our sheriff has done. Gary not my fault. McFadden built a studio in the in the jail so the inmates, or as he calls them, the residents, can can rehabilitate themselves through music. And when they did the big press reveal, you know, they invited media in and they had an inmate in there to show them like, this is what he's working on, this is how you use the thing, and isn't this awesome? And turns out that inmate is an accused murderer, and the sheriff's office never reached out to the victim's family to let them know, Hey, we're going to use your son's killer in this promotional video for our music studio. So if you want to use the music studio, just commit some crimes and then get yourself arrested and then you can get access to the studio. It's like promotion, you know, it's like advertising. This is what we call in the biz earned media. You know, where you do something in the media comes to cover it, so you don't have to pay for the advertising and marketing. You just get coverage. So it's earned media, and they never called the parents. They never called the family. They never told the Zeller's family that this accused murderer is going to be splashed across all of the newscasts. And so think about it, like they're sitting around and all of a sudden, you know, they're watching a newscast and then they see their loved one's murderer being portrayed in this way of a guy who's on the path to rehabilitation. He hasn't even stood trial for the murder yet. But the Sheriff's office did put out a press release and it said to the Zeller's family, your voice matters, your loss matters. We are committed to learning from this and doing better moving forward. Yeah, just think about the victims. That's all that's really, That's like the first thing you need to do is just don't think first about the inmate in that press availability. Maybe think of somebody else first. I'm just kidding, No, it's the sheriff, he can't do that, but uh, you know, maybe somebody on staff think of the victims. Because everybody that's in that jail, virtually everybody in the jail. I'm trying to think of a circumstance or situation where somebody's in the jail that has not victimized somebody else. Chances are if you're in the jail, you have victimized somebody else, right, So maybe think of every single resident of your jail as also a victim and that victim's family, even if the victim isn't dead, like in this case, you've got other people that were still victimized but they survived and their family and all of the trauma surrounding that. Think about them, you know, maybe put that front and center in every thing that you do. That every one of the people that come through. I'm not saying you treat them badly or anything like that. I'm saying maybe think first that everybody you see, there is another person that's not there in front of you, and those are the victims, and then there are other people attached to them, the victims' families. But they did say we are committed to learning from this and doing better moving forward. You have our continued respect, our sympathy, and our sincere apologies. So credit where it's due. At least he apologized, or whoever it was that wrote the press release did so. At least somebody at the sheriff's office apologized for that. Chris says, wait a minute, Pete, So Bunkhom County mishandled nineteen thousand dollars and then another three hundred and fifty thousand that they weren't reconciling. What did the Mecklenberg ought to find? Surely we have higher numbers than Charlotte. If it's higher than Buncom, we will have to detract one point from Sheriff Gary not my fault macfadden. However, if it's less than Bunkom or zero, we will have to award Gary not my fault McFadden plus three points for successfully cleaning out their books. Right, So there was not an audit done of the Mecklenburg Sheriff's office and the jail accounts, so we don't know. I'm not alleging anything because I don't know. The Buncom County audit was done after tips were given to the state auditor, and that's how the auditor's office gets wind of these things to investigate. So if you are aware of something, or you have suspicions about something, you should call or go online and file a complaint or give a tip to the State Auditor's Office, and that's how they they identify things to investigate. Again, I have no knowledge or any evidence or I've never even heard of anything like what happened and bunk them happening here. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription, I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground news as they make the media landscape more transparent. Got a tweet from Big b it's a pet tweet, who says fyi the Youth Development Center and Concord has also built a music studio for the offenders, and they have the latest in video game technology. See that all you have to do is engage in criminal behavior and you too can access these music studios. Let me circle back, as Jen Pisaki might say, to the La riots real quick. We covered this in the first two hours of the program. So if you're listening on the podcast, thank you very much, by the way, but you can go back and listen because we post three podcasts per day, one for each of the hours. And what's interesting and the media reaction to the riots is this new found or maybe I should say a rediscovered sense of the complexities and nuances when trying to cover riots. And we are hearing a lot of things like you know, there were peaceful protesters and then some bad actors engaged in the violence, right and we heard this also during the Black Lives Matter, fiery but mostly peaceful protests as well. And yes there is another apparently the teachers' unions organizing some massive nationwide protest against ICE on June fourteenth. They've got cities apparently Asheville has already given a permit for this anti ice demonstration. So these days of action, this is you know, Marxism. But also keep in mind that, as Corey DeAngelis points out, the K twelve government schools rely on head counts for funding. So if you deport people and they take their kids with them, then you lower the school enrollment numbers, and then that means you lower the money that the teachers' unions get a chunk of. So just keep that in mind. But regarding the complexities and the nuances of you know, good people on both sides. Oh no, no, sorry, that's the wrong. Sorry, that's the wrong protest. But you know, not everybody was rioting. And I'm hearing this from various media people and Derek Hunter over at town hall dot com. He points out the difference in the way this is being approached now and it was during BLM versus j six. He says, remember how nuanced guys like Brian Stelter at CNN, who was a Potato, was about how new Brian was about j six in differentiating between people who were fighting with the cops and then the others who just walked in the doors that were held open by police. No, they didn't. They gave no distinction to those different types of people that were at the Capitol that day. It did not matter to them if you were escorted into the building, if a cop held a door for you and allowed you to walk in. They wanted you tried for trees and just like the guys who were busting windows and you know, dressed up like Vikings. Michael Schellenberger, former liberal, wrote the book San Francisco, and he's on Twitter also, he's got a sub stack as well. He says, a lot of people are upset about these images of violent protesters in Los Angeles waving the Mexican flag. If they loved Mexico so much, why are they so upset at enforcing our laws against illegal entry. To fully appreciate their significance, it's important to understand that over the last several decades, the people who run California and its major cities came to a new consensus a large number of our laws were racist and oppressive. Democrats increasingly viewed laws against illegal camping, open air drug dealing, shoplifting, burglary, arson, and unlawful border crossing not as tools for protecting neighborhoods and preserving public space, but rather as tools for putting poor people and racial minorities in prison. This idea took root that order itself was a facade, simply a way for the rich and comfortable to criminalize the marginalized. So one by one, democrats stopped enforcing and weakened laws against drug dealing, illegal camping, prostitution, defecation, drug use on sidewalks. Cities stopped enforcing anti camping ordinances. State leaders directed prosecutors not to charge certain drug crimes. Federal immigration laws were nullified by city policy in the name of compassion, Progressives dismantled the foundations of public order. Over the last few days, we have seen the consequences of this ideology erupt in the streets of Los Angeles. Protesters attacked federal agents during ice operations, hurled bricks and fireworks at them, torched vehicles, defaced public buildings. All of it was filmed and cheered and amplified on social media. These were not quiet acts of nonviolent protest. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to the EP calendarshow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.