The redistricting wars have begun (08-21-2025--Hour3)

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And I don't know how you can hear all of that reporting here, all of the data, the science right, the strategists and all of these consultants like these democrats who do this for a living, and they are sounding the alarm and saying this is a huge problem. We're losing voter registration. We're not registering Democrats in the numbers that we used to, and in fact, Republicans are outpacing us and they're overtaking us and this Democrat on our text line. Here's maybe they didn't hear the whole two hours, which is why I said go back and listen to the podcast. Maybe you didn't hear all that, because otherwise I don't know how you hear all of that data and text me the following Democrats can win. We just need Republicans to stop cheating racial jerrymandering. Got it. With all due respect, Democrat Texter, stop being a dumbass. Okay, you don't have to live like this. Again. You don't have to listen to any of the I think pretty awesome suggestions that I offered. You don't have to take my advice on any of that stuff. In fact, I prefer you don't. I would like nothing better than to see the Democrat Party tossed into the dust bin of history. You've got a terrible reputation. Awful people in American history were part of your party. They did terrible things. You offer no good solutions, and you are populated by communists and people that hate our country and what it stands for. I would be fine with you guys going away, but if you but if you want to try to save the party, you probably should open your eyes and ears to the data that is being presented to you. Racial jerrymandering, partisan jerrymandering, redistricting, none of that, absolutely, none of it has any impact on your voter registration numbers. They are completely different things. The data I gave you was about voter registration. That's why they're sounding the alarms inside your own party. They're saying the registration numbers North Carolina is about to flip from a Democrat Republican majority to a Republican Democrat majority by registration. Now the number one actually is unaffiliated because we have open primaries. But the Democrats have been above the Republicans since the Civil War. Why do you think that's changing. It's nothing you're doing, It's the Republican's fault. Like this is why I say they can't fix themselves. They just can't because they don't believe that the things they say and the policies they support are not popular. They refuse to believe it. I know, like Republicans come up with ideas and I can tell like, oh, that's not going to be a popular idea. Oh that's I don't know if. I don't know if the public are going to get behind them on that right. But Democrats believe that every one of their policies is where most Americans are, if not all Americans, and the only people that oppose them are racist. Voter registration is not a product of redistricting. Number one. Number two, the most gerrymandered states are Democrat controlled, which is why with the redistricting war that is now erupting, Democrats are not going to come out of that ahead because they've already jerrymandered the states they control to the point where they can't squeeze out any more seats. And there are way more Republican states that if they proceed down this path as well, they can squeeze out way more because the Democrat maps are way more unfair. And by the way, the Texas legislature that just approved their new maps, those aren't racial jerrymanners in fact, in fact, it's going to yield more Hispanic districts. Now they may vote Republican but that's not a racial jerrymander. By the way, this same thing happened in North Carolina when Republicans drew maps. I believe this would have been twenty twenty, but it could have been twenty ten. I've lost track of all the different lawsuits and all the different times the Republicans had to redraw lines based on constantly changing standards from the courts. But the Democrats, I believe this was actually twenty ten when the Republicans drew their lines and Democrats sued claiming racial jerrymanders. The Republican maps actually yielded more black representatives and senators. Now, it came at the expense of white Democrats, and that's why they sued. Yeah, that's why they sued because it gave black Democrats more seats versus white Democrats, and the white Democrats didn't want to lose their seat, so they got the maps tossed, which yielded less black representation. Yeah, I'll go Oliver youa. Let's talk to Chris real quick. Hey, Chris, what's going on? What's up, Skinny Pete? How you doing good? How are you? I'm hanging the top, doing better than I deserve. I just wanted to kind of give a quick run down to my personal experience as a party switcher. I registered as a Republican as a kid when I was able to first start voting, and was pretty disenfranchised by the time I was in my late twenties early thirties and switched to independent, and fair enough for everybody out there that's like, I can't be associated with either party, like this is just neither one of them. They're both full of snakes and vipers and things. But it quickly, well quickly. It took me about a decade to realize I was just kind of wandering in the desert as an independent and I wasn't moving either party in the direction that I desired. So as a guy who wants to keep boys out of girls locker rooms and believes in the right to life and things like this, I decided I would go back to the Republican Party and start trying to do my part to make it the party that I think it should be. And I would just love to encourage others that are out there and have just gotten to the point where they don't want to associate the Republican Party or the Democrat Party to consider it and to consider joining the local executive committee or get involved and start trying to change it from the inside, because there is no independent meetings, there is no independent structure. There's nobody. You're in the desert wandering. Yeah. No, it's true. People who want to actually affect change and make a difference have the opportunities to do so. But it means you have to actually get involved and turn up. You got to show up at play rounds. Yeah, that's it. It's like people who complain all the time about voting, you know and election integrity stuff, and I asked them, okay, well have you have you signed up to you know, volunteer or go work the polls, because you could do that and then you would be able to see the system play out and you'd be eyes and ears if there is any kind of chicanery, like you would be helping to correct these. Problems you have identified. So if people did that they got more involved, I think it would you know, scratch the itch for them, but yeah, it would also I think lead to some positive change. And one last point, it's not just the number. You can't just go by the letter like oh, it's a numb Republican I'm cool, No, man, that Republican may be worse than the Democrat. You got to look into their track record, their history, and the only way to do that is kind of to be part of that party. To get in and to get to the grassroots and to get involved and find these local stories and these local you know people that know these you know, know the folks as who they are and what they stand for. So yeah, Cobara's County Citizens. If anyone's listening, join our page Cabara's County Citizens against tax hikes and for government transparency. All right, Chris, I appreciate the call, buddy, Thanks so. Much, Thank you man. All Right, all right, so you've heard me. Talk about Creative Video for almost a year. But did you know they also offer a game changing app for businesses that reward their teams with incentive trips. Well they do. It's called Incentive Trip Kit. If you want a business or work at one that offers these incentive trips, this is a must have. It maximizes the impact and value of these motivational trips. 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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has granted the motion in the RNC case, ruling that election day is one day and ballots arriving after election day must not be counted under federal law. Still not tired of the winning, Just for the record, Still not tired, all right, So let's talk redistricting. The Democrat on the text line claims that this is the reason why Democrats aren't winning it's all because of redistricting. And I you know, I do agree that the composition of the House of Representatives has been impacted by redistricting, jerrymandering and such. It's because that's also tied to the census. And we've gone over this before. But the Sense overcounted six states, I believe it was, and they undercounted six other states. And the states that they overcounted were Democrat states, giving them additional seats, and they undercounted red states which cost them seats. So in fact, the Republicans should have a larger majority than they have right now. So Texas lawmakers yesterday passed a new congressional district map with the intent to flip five Democrat held US House seats to Republican control in next year's midterm elections. Texas Republicans were able to proceed after dozens of Democrat lawmakers on Monday ended a two week walkout from the state House in Austin that deprived the House of the quorum needed to hold a vote. And for people who might be asking, a quorum is the minimum amount of people needed for a body to pass legitimate votes, right, that's the minimum number of people in attendance. The bill to redraw the map passed along party lines eighty eight to fifty two. It was a little bit different than the version that was passed by the Senate. So they're going to go back and they've got to hammer out an agreement on a final version, and then that will go to the governor. Greg Abbott, a Republican who has said he will sign it. House debate in Texas came on the eve of floor action expected in California State Senate for a redistricting package championed by Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom to redraw his state's congressional map to flip five Republican seats into the Democrat column, thereby negating the increased count out of Texas. Want to play a SoundBite for you. This is Senator Christopher Cabal Dawn c A baldn So his name is like CA for like California Bald, which he is. And then on so Cabal Dawn. Anyway, listen to what he says and see if you can decipher where he gives away the game. And I'll give you a hint. He's going to use a different term than illegal alien. All right, that's your hint, So be listening. See if you can hear where he gives away the game. Okay, if a year from now or a month from now, or if a week from now, if your cousin is kidnapped off the street, if UCLA closes down, if we announce that there won't be an election, if the census that we're relying on for the Commission's next stab at redistricting doesn't include one point five million Californians in it, if we have no democracy left, and we look back and said, if only we could have done something, Well, the nice thing about this is that we are in a time machine. We can do something. We know what is company coming because it's in pribs of twenty twenty five. Did you catch it? He said? One point five million Californians that's for some reason, would not have been counted in the census in twenty thirty. If for some reason, one point five million Californians don't get counted, why wouldn't they be counted? That's weird, right, are you saying the census isn't able to count? I mean, if anything, they over counted California last time around, So why would one point five million Californians not be counted. Oh, he's talking about illegal aliens, which sort of gives away the game as to why Democrats want there to be open borders. As I went over in the first two hours talking about the Democrat Party voter registration numbers circling the drain. They're just bleeding voters. They and it literally is happening in every single state, every single state where voters register by party, Democrats are losing them and Republicans are gaining them. Right. So, if you have open borders and you could bring in a whole bunch of people, but they don't get to vote, they don't get to register to vote theoretically, but they're not registering to vote, but they get counted in the census. Democrats get to keep more seats. That's the game, and it's been the game. And that's why Trump in twenty twenty and now is saying we should not be counting illegal aliens. You get this thing changed, Democrats lose even more seats. Back to this piece, This is from reuters dot Com. Newsom and his Democrat allies in the state legislature are aiming to achieve fast track passage of their newly drawn map by Friday, and that would be in time to put it on the ballot for voters in a special election set for November fourth. And the California Supreme Court turned down an emergency petition that was filed by four Republican state lawmakers that tried to block the legislative action for thirty days, and the court said no. Other Republican states, including Ohio, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, are all moving forward with or considering their own redistricting efforts, as are Democrat states such as Maryland and Illinois, which they have already jerrymandered the ever loving bejeebas out of those states. You don't have any more seats to jerrymander, like there's like nothing left to do. Remember remember Adam Kinsinger, the Republican guy that would cry all the time and his hatred of Trump. This was a guy who threw his lot in with the Democrats, was on the j six Committee and all of that, and they rewarded him by jerrymandering him out of his district in Illinois. We talked about this when the Texas Democrats fled to Illinois complaining of jerrymandering. Yet going to a state that's one of the worst jerrymanders in America. If you guys want to embark on this war, I guess we're already in it. Let's see how it shakes out. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Feel free to put your name on these texts so I can identify your just buy your first name. You can give a fake name too, but. Unless you want to just be known as anonymous Democrat, John, Welcome to the show. Hello John, Hey, how you doing, Petey? Quick? Just a quick comment. I used to live in California. I still have a lot of friends out there, and this reapportionment of the congressional districts could really backfire on the Democrats because they have diced and sliced those districts so much. And I can tell you, you know a lot of my friends out there. I still keep in touch with quite a few people. They're all upset about what's going on out there. And some of them were like raving liberals before, but now they're telling me that, you know, they won't tell anybody this because California is the king of the cancel culture. But a lot of them voted for Trump in the last election. And if you look at the last election turnouts and that if they're basing all this reapportionment on old numbers in that they may be in for real surprise because rather than picking up seats, they may lose more seats. You are, yeah, you are exactly right. The problem that California's got is, like you said, sliced and diced already. And when you create a district that you think, maybe you know, more likely to be won by a Democrat. Like let's say you're taking a district that's a D plus seven, that's a safe seat for a Democrat. Then you turn that into a D plus three or plus two. Now get you get a red wave election and you're screwed and you've lost. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I don't think they've thought this, Sue. I think they just Gavin new some. I mean, what people out there tell me is this whole thing is about Gavin Newsom running for president. Right as far as the people on the Palisades are concerns and everything else, you talk to them, they they're afraid to go to these public meetings and speak out about lack of help and the blaze and getting building permits, and all of us say, because if you go there, the first thing you have to do is, you know, you have to identify yourself. You have to say, hey, I'm Pete Calendar. I love at such and such an address. You say anything against that council or anything, you'll get docts the next day and they'll come after your employer, right, those people there writing down those numbers. Yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah. This is again. It's the I talked about it last hour. The permission structure, and then and then that leads to a preference cascade. When people feel safe to speak their mind and realize they're not the only ones that are thinking these things. That creates the permission to say those things, and more people then kind of flood through and say me to me too. They stand on their desks and say, you know, oh, captain, my captain, there's another dead. Poet society reference. Yep. Yeah, so and that's why, like people think, and this the North Carolina Democrats, uh, sort of the poster child for this. They drew the maps for a century in North Carolina, and you know, Republicans beat them on their own maps in twenty ten because right, because Democrats had done this for so long and they they made too many districts where they had diluted their own advantages that. The seats then flipped on them. So you know, better be. Careful Anyways, that's my that's my combat. Enjoy the soul. Thanks you good one. Yes, sir, you too. I appreciate it. No, it's a it's a very good Uh, it's a very good point. And there is a there is a real risk for Democrat controlled states and Republican controlled states if they've done this sort of thing too, Like, there's not a whole lot that you can do if you've already been you know, cutting these districts smaller and smaller and smaller because you're trying to capture you know, more safe seats, but you don't have enough voters. And that's a problem for the Democrats. That ties into the voter registration issue. If you've got the declining voters, you got the declining support. Now you don't have as big a whol to slice and dice from Travis. Welcome to the show. Hey, Travis, and. Mister beat I had two points or observations are questions. The first one is, I think one of the problems with. Jerry managering their drawing districts is the idea that you're just voting for the r or the deeds. Well, that's already kind. Of happening in the primaries, because you're basically just voting for the guy with the most money or the best connections who can present themselves as right because there's so many people in the district. He has there millions of dollars. So either you've got to have the back end of the groups that can give you a name as a conservative or as was a conservative. And who are they, what are they. Based, what are their interests, you. Know where they're basing that on. So I think we're going to have to at. Some point in that future expand the number of seats in the. House representatives because we just I don't think this is ever meant to function with one representative representing two hundred thousand people who never get. To interact with them. You're so removed from the face of. So what what size district would you prefer? Well, I think it's seventy thouars. I mean those are state House seats and uh and state Senate seats. That's what it originally was. I believe. There was much much the the person per representative. They have expanded you're you're right, You're yeah, they have expanded the House. I believe they've expanded it before. I don't think there's. Going to be any I'm not sure about that. I seem to recall that well, but I don't know. Now. I will tell you right now, the population of a district is over eight hundred thousand people. That's huge and I just don't anyway. So that's well. But but you have states. But you have states also that have more than a million people in them that have you know, two senators that represent you know, two senates represent California, and they've got millions of people. So again, like Y. It's supposed to be different. I mean, I know it was. Supposed to be represented by legislative appointments. Yeah, Travis, I got a run. I appreciate. I know you had another comment, but I'm up against the break. I do appreciate the call. 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I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Let me jump back to the phones here and get John on. Hello John, Welcome to the shoe. Good afternoon, be thank you for taking my car. Sure. I believe North Carolina Democrats with in the news today the headline, they'd be better served to watch the even news and the weathermend report about the riptides on the coast and figure out that they're in that same situation and they keep swimming against that riptide they're getting further and further from shore and wearing themselves out. I see what you did there, topical tied it into the news and a double meaning as well. John Well played sir. Thank you, sir, you have a great afternoon. All right, you too. I appreciate it. Yeah, they are, Yeah, they're getting and you try to tell them this, they're like, again, I spent two hours going over New York Times axios with all of the quotes from all of these Democrat data people and strategists and stuff, and they're all sounding the alarm. And then you get the Texters that are like and you get some Democrats that are quoted in those pieces too, and they're like, oh, it's just the message, or in the Texter's case, it's the jerrymandering. That's why we're losing. Yeah, you don't lose seven swing states in a presidential race. You don't lose seven swing states because of jerrymandering. That's not how that happens. And anyway, the data on all of this is based on voter registration. So California now in order to try to combat what Texas is doing, which by the way, not for nothing, but Texas is actually allowed to do a mid decade redistricting. They're allowed to do it. They're following the law. You may not like that, but they are following the law. There's nothing illegal about what they're doing. Now. California, on the other hand, that's a bit different. See California actually has a constitutional provision that says lawmakers are not allowed to draw maps, which, by the way, they did. The California Democrats drew themselves a map in secret, and now they're going to put this on the referen on a ballot for a referendum because they need voter approval to not go through their quote independent Redistricting Commission. Okay, that's what's constitutionally proscribed, independent redistricting commission. But they want to throw those maps out, so they need to go to the voters to ask for it. California has already has an overwhelmingly Democratic delegation in Congress, reports Colmatters dot org. It's on the left. Governor Newsom's plan could give his party five more seats and off set a Texas jerrymander. And it could. It might not because again, they've already jerrymandered it pretty well, and states like California, Illinois, New York, Maryland, they've already jerrymandered to disproportionately advantage Democrats. And when you look at their maps, they are insane. They you know it's there. People talk about jerrymandering like, oh, I'll know it when I see it, you know, because you look at some maps, and you wouldn't be able to tell just looking at the map that this is obviously a jerrymander. You could look at other maps, like the one in Illinois where you got some part of it that starts in the southern part of Illinois and then gets really really tiny and goes up and then turns left and then goes up again, and then turns right and goes up to the top right. It's like this tiny little squiggle line. Maryland is no better, and they do that in order to disenfranchise Republican voters. So you have states where you've got, like California, forty percent of California, I believe was had voted for Donald Trump, but they don't have forty percent of the House seats. And that's the. Proportional argument that Democrats have made in North Carolina for twenty years, that we need to look at proportional representation so whatever the presidential candidate gets, that's how many seats we should get. However many votes go what percentage of the votes go for a governor, then that's how many seats we should get. Whatever argument they need to make at any given time. But you look at their states that they control, and they don't reflect those values. They don't have a consistent standard. So it's just an argument that they make in a particular state. Like Mark Elias, the Democrat lawyer who sues North Carolina every other week and sues us on our redistricting maps, yet then defends the Maryland map which was thrown out, or sorry, the New York map, which was thrown out as a gerrymander. They had to do another one. Republicans stand to lose more than half their seats in the state in California, so listen to that. The party, so they want to redraw the districts in California, and California's got somewhere around I forget sixty House members, right, and Republicans are going to lose five seats under the California map, five seats, and that means they would lose half their seats, which means what they have ten, so they have ten out of sixty, but they vote Republican by like it's a sixty to forty split. Democrats don't give them forty percent of the seats. Supporters, led by Gavin Newsom, can tend they are saving democracy by stopping Trump from rigging the outcome of the midterms. Ultimately, California voters will likely decide in a special election this November. Unlike Texas, where the legislature determines congressional lines, California voters in twenty ten gave that power to a bipartisan citizen commission. The commission draws a new map once each decade after the census. Newsom is proposing to temporarily suspend the democracy in order to save the democracy. You see, so temporarily override the commission and create districts favorable to Democrats until the twenty thirty census, and then we'll totally go back to that old way of doing things and give Republicans more seats at that point. Tour Okay. Democrat officials drew a map in secret, they shared it to the public on Friday. The legislature. Three quarters of the members or Democrats planned to vote before the end of the week to put that map on the ballot, because they're on a tight time frame here, because the lines need to be in place by the end of the year, so you know, if you're going to run for office, you know what your district looks like. Newsom is looking at the November fourth special election to consolidate with the municipal elections which are already happening across the state. Ballots have to be ready though, by late September, so they are on a bit of a time crunch here. A Politico poll found that nearly two thirds of California voters prefer retaining the state's independent redistricting Commission, So they got a bit of a heavy lift here. And there's going to be a ton of money that comes in from Charles Munger, longtime Republican donor, who poured twelve million dollars into the campaign to pass the independent redistricting and he is opposed to this reference. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 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