The mindset of victimhood (07-25-2025--Hour2)

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Not to go over all of the details again, but in the last hour I started talking about Donald Trump's executive order directing the Justice Department to eliminate laws and regulations that hinder city ability to remove homeless people sleeping on the streets, saying the move is necessary to crack down on crime and drug use. Under the order, Attorney General Pam Bondi will take steps to quote reverse judicial precedents and consent decrees that limit local and state governments from removing homeless people from the streets and help move them into treatment centers. They go to the phones here because Bob is called in. Welcome to the show, Bob. Hey, thanks for taking my call. Sure, pardon me, Yeah, what's going on? Yeah? I was hopeless for like a year and a half and I stayed at the George shin Uptown Men's Shelter. Nice George Shinn. There's a blast from the past for you. The George. I remember for Christmas, he brought us a bunch of tennis shoes. Okay, he brought us tennis shoes for Christmas. But I stayed there for nine and you know, just to echo what a lot of people have been saying, is that there's so many at least back then thirty years ago. It was ninety five and ninety six when I was there, and you know, there were there's so many things that they offer you that you can to get out of homelessness that nobody was taking advantage of, you know, and they make it very very comfortable there, you know. And I remember on my exit interview, they asked me, you know, after I you know, I took advantage of every program they offered, you know, any program, every program, whatever, and was able to get out of it, you know. And and then when they asked me on the exit interview, you know what, what would you change, and I said, get rid of the TV, you know, get rid of the TV in the lobby, you know, because a lot of those guys would just sit around and watch TV, you know, and wanted to give back to the community. You know. After I got on my feet and started doing you know, my own thing, I would go back there and try to get help, you know, try to offer them, you know, a job for them. They don't want to work, man it. I mean some of you could tell the ones that want to work, the ones that want to work don't have any questions. They jump in the truck and they're ready to go. Yeah, you know what I mean. But the ones that don't want to work have a thousand questions, you know, of you know what they're gonna you know, what are we doing? What do we you know? Just I mean it's just kind of funny. But all I the only point I wanted to make is my experience, was that you can get out of this homelessness. Loop if you want to, you know, if if if you at least that was my experience. I was able to take advantage of all their programs and you know, course of course quit using drugs and drinking. That was the biggest thing, you know. And uh and and get back on my feet. Was that a requirement to be in the shelter? No? No, uh no drugs, no drinking, and like you were not. Allowed to h they would they would breathalyze. And I made a lot of enemies because they made me a breath aalizer. Oh no, and. Uh oh they made me uh they made me head of the kitchen. You know, I was man. I was king of the homeless shelter man. Yeah, no, it's not so why do you think it? Why do you think you were different? Like why did it work for you? And why and why it doesn't work for others? Oh, it's a very negative atmosphere. First of all, it's a very very you know, Uh, the man is keeping me down, you know. Here there, here's the man offering you programs to get out, you know, but it's the man that's keeping him down, you know what I mean? Yeah, and uh and uh, you know, it's just it's if you're ready to be on home less than you can become unhomeless. You know, that was my experience. Now you know, of course that's a blanket that's a blanket statement for everybody, you know, I mean, because everybody's experiences aren't the same as mine, right, you know. And uh, well, but I think you mentioned something there, and I wrote down as you were saying it, I wrote down the acronym TIV. And I've talked about this many times over the years, which is the tendency for interpersonal victimhood, which is this psychological profile of people who once they go down this path, it's almost impossible to get off it, which is that they view themselves as this tendency to view themselves as the victim in virtually all areas and aspects and relationships in their life, and it's crippled. I became homeless. I became homeless noly from from you know, being an alcoholic. But also I became homeless because I chose not to pay my rent. You know, That's why I became homeless, because I made the decision that I wanted to party rather than pay my rent, you know. And again, you know, I'm going back thirty years ago, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, and you know, but you know, I mean I hate to say this because it goes against a lot of things, but you know, I really believe that, you know, people make it. You got to make that choice when you're standing in front of the beer cooper or whatever that Wait a minute, I want to get out of this, you know, right, well, of course, you know, and it so anyway. So when you were at the shelter, they had the you said, they have so many services. I'm assuming they've got you know, twelve step program access. Yeah, oh, big time, Yeah, twelve step program access and how you know, if you go to a few mental health classes, you know, uh, sign up for everything they've got you know. Uh wait, hey how about this? How about follow the rules? Yeah, well that's a that's a big order. I think for some people it is. Yeah, it's a big order because we're such a selfish and self centered, you know, like you said t I V. Yeah, you know, you know, it's it's it's a very and it's hard to see it from the inside. Yeah, well it's it's it's it's sort of like our sheriff, nothing's ever his fault. You know, it's not my fault that I'm in this situation. You know, somebody else is to blame for all of my problems, and that's not the case. But it gives people the comfort to not change and they have an excuse, just like you were saying with the people that ask you all of the questions. And I've encountered that in the past when i've you know, I was one day sitting on my front steps and the guy walked up to me and the two other housemates and he was like, hey, check it out. I just got out of prison and I really need some money to go see my uncle on the other side of town. And this was down in rock Hill, and I said, well, I don't have any money, like I'm broke, so I can't give you any money, and and he's like, I just need some food. And I was like, well, I'll give you some food. I was like, you want a sandwich? Well what kind of sandwich? He starts grilling me on, like what kind of food I'm going to be able to give him. Yeah, if you're starving, dude, Like, I'm not going to let you starve to death. I got a ham sandwich. This is what I eat ham and cheese sandwich. That's all I can afford. He's like, oh, I need a hot meal. I need a hot meal. I was like, well, how about some ramen noodles. I buy those things for like seventy cents a bag. You know, No, no, no, that's all right, And like anything, that bad. Thing is Yeah, I was just gonna say. The sad thing is is that like for the guys in the shelter that are trying to do the right thing, that are following the rules, that are taking advantage of their programs, you know everything, you know that they're made fun of and look down on it really by by the gang. So you got to able to overcome that social stigma of being a kisspot, you know really and oh oh big time. Oh it's yeah, it was. It was ridiculous. I was like, man, here's the guy that's trying to help himself and you know, it's it's it's it's it's really weird. You know, you down well and that's you know what you've just described. Also was one of the things that jad Vance wrote about in his book He'll Billy Eleogy, where he talked about the crab or the buckets. The crabs in the bucket where you throw crabs in a bucket and they could climb out if they wanted to, if they tried to, and they and if they all like, they could make it out, but they never do because whenever one crab starts getting up high, the other crabs grab a hold of it and bring it back down into the bucket. And that's what you're just describing. It's the it's the the bucket of crabs scenario. I'm not going to let you get out right. Yeah, well, whereas he called it, you know, you're too big for your breeches, like, oh, who are you to come back from college? Now? Oh, you're better than we are, and that because that's what that's about, is like, oh, look at you, Bob trying to better himself. Oh you think you're better than I am? Well, I mean on this score, yes, like I think you would be better because you're trying to improve yourself into not be in this situation that you don't want to be in. So yes, on this measure, I would say you are behaving better. You just have to rise above and ignore them, you know what I mean? Yeah, you have to or not rise above you just have to ignore them, you know what I mean, You just you know, you just have to ignore them. Yeah, because there's no winning the argument with Key said, I like that, PIV Yeah yeah, yeah. It's it's a victim mindset, and once you start down that path, it is it's almost impossible to break out of it. Bob. Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad your story is a happy one here at the end, And thank you for the insight. I really appreciate it. Thank you. All right, take care, have a great weekend. 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I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. We'll go back to the phones. Here's Scott. Hello, Scott, welcome to the show. Hey b Hey, we met. We met at the News and Brews, the original one towards the end of it all, and we're talking about fans and stall and all that type of thing. But I was a recipient of the f f VF program. You know that, that's a federal program. About three years ago. I got really sick and I'm a veteran, and they gave us, not directly, but they gave us over thirty three thousand dollars through this grant to take care of all of our rent and all of our bills and literally, I mean everything, wow, for almost five months. So that my body could just recover and then then we were rebounded. But before that, over the last twenty five years, in my pursuit of trying to be an entrepreneur, I ended up homeless three times, checked in the George Shenn what they called the Dog Pound, and you know, took advantage of all the programs that were available at the time. And I mean this was back when Patriccrory was you know, the mayor. Yeah, and you know, I've seen more things to help the homeless with you know, Sue Myerk and Richard Benruth than I ever did with pat Munsford and the ten year planned in holmlessness and the liberal you know agenda they once the Liberals gut into Charlotte. I mean they they have all but destroyed any hope of you know, the homeless crowd progressing. And I've gone down and trying to get involved two three times. And because I kind of feel like I'm almost an expert in this kind of get off the street thing, but it you know, it's you're right, I mean, the victim mentality. I mean I had to get over that, and it took probably twenty years for me to get over it. And you know, all I was dealing with was you know, hard economic times. I had no drug issues or no, you know. Alcohol issues, that type of thing, right, so, right, so, but you also had this this victim mentality, this tendency for interpersonal victimhood you. Yeah, so when did you realize that you When did you really or when did you say, like, I'm not the victim anymore, I'm not going to look at myself like that or was it even a conscious thing that you you did? Yeah? And two you started talking about it, you know, two or three years ago. I didn't really think of it that way, but that's exactly what it is. And you know, it's funny that you speak about it quite often. And I you know, it's like I used to say, John Hancock when he was on the air, he would give like great uncle fatherly wisdom, you know, how to you know, kind of budget your money and that type of thing. And I always try to get send him a message every so off and just to say thank you so much for always making you know, being responsible a part of your show. And you do that, you do the same thing. I mean, you're like, you know, listen, guys, I mean, you don't have to do it. You don't have to struw, but you just have to be smart about you know, what you're gonna do on a daily basis. But yeah, I think I think probably about five years ago I really started, you know, looking in the mirror. I tell everybody you should go look in the mirror for about ten minutes. Uh, we all should do that, and and then look at you know, uh, if things are going good. If guy told me a long time ago, Scott or you involved, I said, yeah. He said, well great, great, he says, when things are going bad, congratulations, you're involved too. You know. So I I I tend to look at that and really take it to heart. And then about once a year, I just go up to the mirror and stare at the mirror and you know, trying to figure out, you know, what am I doing right and what am I doing wrong? And you know we got to change that. Well, Scott, I would say, I will return the compliment and say that that's some good uncle and fatherly advice that you've just given to people as well. Yeah, well, you know, after being almost three times and then getting really sick and then watching you know, our federal government, you know basically have a program. It's called the f SBF program, and it's only initiated out of a couple people in North Carolina or South Carolina. But they they will help you. I mean, but but you you got to be wanting to help yourself. And if you're if you're not willing to help yourself, there's not much help out there. Right. I think that's really the message that I wanted to call in today, is that all this help, all this helps is out here matters nothing if if we're not willing to help ourselves. Yeah. No, and that's what the you know, hitting rock bottom, the moment of clarity, like, that's what all of that is about. Yeah, Scott, I appreciate the call, brother, good to hear from you. I have a great weekend, all right, take it easy. Let me see if I get James on here before the break. Hello James, Hey, Pete, Hey, try to keep this real short, so interesting topic. I love it so Pam and the Jam often has reports on our traffic reports bout hit and run accidents right throughout Charlotte. Yeah, and I'm tying that to you had mentioned about these I'll call them beggars out on the street corners with their signage and props and everything else. What would be the parasite the local blob and I've including those the local officials, some of the local media, TV, radio, newspaper, and advocates of the homeless population. What would be their response. Do you suppose if some motorists picked off one of these homeless beggars out on the street corner and. Led what would be the response? Oh, I'm I think, I mean, I would go out on a limb and say it would It would be big news, right, Like they would report that, you know, somebody hit a homeless person and drove away, and then there would be a man hunt and they would be, you know, trying to find them and that sort of thing. But but honestly, I mean, I think if that was the case, that's usual. I think it would get much the same coverage as anybody that got hit, you know, a hit and run kind of a thing like that, the local media on a hit and run where they're trying to look for the driver. I think, I mean, I've seen so many of those stories over the years, not involving homeless people, but just you know, housed people that get that get hit and killed by hit and run drivers, and usually it's a drunk driver, right right, And and I think the coverage is pretty it's it's similar across I think all all of the no matter who the victim is, especially if you're looking for the person so right. So you don't think it to be more sensationalized though, because it was a homeless person hit. I mean, I mean, that would be an angle to it. Sure, but I think, just like all of this stuff, the story would die as soon as they caught the person, the driver, you know what I mean. So, yeah, James, I appreciate the call man. Have a good weekend. I appreciate it. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Let's see, there is a phone number or a there's a tip line for traffic. Oh no, what is it? Is it? Seven oh four? Nickel? Bring it up? Somebody's asking me because he says they are crawling on I eighty five north after exit forty one. So there we we just got the tip line, the traffic tip line up and running, and uh, I'll relay it to you. It's is it tips? It's six six' nine? Tips is that? It is? It seven oh? Four look at that check out out the memory on me seven o. Four i'd LIKE i looked at this email like On monday seven oh four six six' nine. Tips godspeed somebody else wants to know if we moved. Our, tower no we have not moved. OUR tower i Live, In valdiese valdiese and can't pick up, clear today seventy five. MILES northwest i. Don't know it could actually be, heat. RELATED sunrelated i. Don't know i've not heard anything. About that we'll check with the, engineer though. All right so there's a piece At The carolina journals actually from a few, months back Written By. David larson the headline on this Was Make North carolina Downtown's. Great again, he said my WIFE and i were married In downtown raleigh five, summers ago and we decided to celebrate our fifth anniversary this summer by staying at this. PAST summer i guess. It, was oh this is a, Year ago august of Twenty, For, sorry well it's been in the stack of stuff. That. Long okay so they celebrated their anniversary by staying at The same marriott hotel and visiting some of the same locations in the heart Of. Downtown raleigh it was quickly evident that things had. DRASTICALLY changed i doubt we'd have planned the same kind of event if we were planning the. Event, today so in, other words they would not get married In downtown raleigh like they did five. Years ago that's, how far, you know the decline, has been and how quick the decline has been In, downtown raleigh. He said saturday Nights Along, fayetteville street, you know used to have, you know raucous, college students, young professionals gave the area life, and revenue but now it's eerily empty of people visiting the once crowded bar and, restaurant scene. He, said instead the few people wandering or loitering on benches appeared to be homeless people and those intoxicated by things stronger. Than alcohol having Lived in raleigh for quite a while during my, SINGLE days i remembered That The moor square area had a reputation, for this but that it had been fairly well contained to that area at the. Very least the massive number of patrons to downtown businesses diluted, their, Impact right but then you end up with repeated interactions with, intoxicated vagrants and that drives. Business away that's me, saying that, he says bringing this kind of thing up can make city boosters accuse you of whining or focusing on the negative or exaggerating, the problem but He says i'm. Not alone there was a recent social media Post By Mayor Mary ann baldwin where she decried the Possibility that raleigh could lose its, downtown amphitheater even saying that if, it happened they would lose the future. Of downtown she called for a re envision of downtown with a focus on more foot traffic and better. Public safety he points out the irony that the mayor is calling out these issues because she's been in Charge of raleigh for the entire five year period from when he was married to when they went back to celebrate their anniversary when this decline in commerce and safety. Have occurred, HE says i don't want to focus too much on, one mayor though in, one city, this problem as the commenters on This mayor's facebook post, spelled out this is seen across the state in downtown. After downtown it's not just the conservative law and order types that are noticing and calling attention. To it Over At, indie week Which is durham's very progressive, local newspaper they have a pinned tweet from weeks ago to the top of. Their account they cite, rising rents which is, a problem but also business is closing left, and right causing the downtown to hollow out and public safety, to deteriorate making the city. Feel unwalkable if people don't, feel safe they. Don't come if they, don't come businesses lose the foot traffic needed to. Stay open if they, closed down even fewer people come and the once vibrant areas become places for vagrancy. And crime see this is for people like ME who. I knew I mean i knew like almost every block Of uptown charlotte twenty five. Years ago those were the, days WHEN like i was a REPORTER and i was going to cover all sorts, of, events meetings, you know, crime obviously but it was all over, the place all over the City, of charlotte driving around IN the Wbt, news TOYOTA and i DIDN'T. HAVE gps I like i had an old book map and and one of those next tell walkie talkie, type phones remember, Those, Things peach AND so i could call back to the newsroom and ask, the anchor, You Know. Jim barrow i'd Be, like jim, You know i'm Lost where i'm on. This road i'm trying to get to this, location whatever and he would. Direct me BUT like i had to figure. It out you had to learn. The city now you just plug it into your phone and you know it'll take, you there and you don't learn the names of streets and all of. That stuff AND when I then i Went, to ashville AND then i, came back and obviously all of, the growth the new buildings and all of, this stuff IT'S like i don't even recognize. It anymore BUT what i see around on the streets, is DISCOURAGING because i remember twenty five, years ago when city leaders spent so much time and effort and political capital and taxpayer money To Revitalize. Uptown charlotte they renamed it for the love, of me LIKE they, i mean they didn't name, it that but they renamed it uptown right in order to try to shape this image of a hollowed out downtown that's, you. Know dreary and, you know the old joke was you can roll a bowling ball down trade and try on at five point thirty and the only thing you would hit would be, you know hookers and pimps because there wasn't anything. Down there after the bank's closed and all the bankers, went home there wasn't Anything there for all, that effort all, that work all that, treasure spent and you're gonna wiz. It, Away leaders you're you're gonna wiz. It away and once you go into that, doom loop well it leads. To, doom okay it just it just feeds on itself and in. Spirals down Look At. San francisco that's a. Doom loop. You know stories. Are powerful they help us make sense, of things to. Understand experiences stories connect us to the people of our past while. 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Again idea downtown's across. The state he Talks. About raleigh he Then Mentions, winston salem and then he talks about how he had friends coming In From washington state and they wanted to Go visit asheville because they had heard wonderful Things, about ashville and so they Went to ashville and then they came back to their House in raleigh and, they, said quote it reminded us Of, home seattle and not in a. Good, way yeah making reference to the rampant drug use. And. Homelessness yeah and this was always an ISSUE when i was Up in, asheville too and it still. Is, now look a lot of that is. Tourism related we would have stories pretty regularly up there of people who came in To visit ashville from out of town and they would come to party and they would buy some drugs and they would all die of fentanyl poisoning in their. Hotel room so that was a pretty regular occurrence. UP there i Don't blame asheville. FOR that i do blame them for a lax view on allowing the vagrancy in the, downtown area which. Is interesting you never saw It In, biltmore village which is all a. Tourist destination but like even the left wing city, leaders knew you don't do to build more village what you allowed to occur In. Downtown ashville Message, on twitter it's a pete Tweet from trent WHO says i will never forget working Outside The salvation army In downtown ashville when a group of tourists walk through, a dense, homeless, street, saying quote this place isn't as nice as. We thought, Since then I've noticed Ashville leaders ashville T oh. Ashville leaders he probably did voice, to text because It's, ash villains THAT'S what i. Call them they Call. It ashvillians, but anyway, Since then i've Noticed ash villains Don't or. Ashville, Leaders, Oh ashville i'm Sorry that ashville tears down the homeless encampments along. Two, forty yeah they started doing that and they got a lot of pushback, for it but especially After Her hurricane helene like there's been a new. Found love they are rediscovering their appreciation for the Tourists. In ashville the WHOLE time i was, up there there was this constant drum beat, against tourists and, you know it would pit business owners and the business community against the local rabble that would elect the. City leaders and so there's this constant tension because the local leaders also needed the business community to, you know keep, providing revenue but also to keep funding. Their campaigns they needed their support for stuff. And initiatives so there was this. Constant tension and because there are a lot of people that are, up there they went up there so they could live this lifestyle OF what i would REFER when i. WAS there i referred to it as like the year, after college, you know where you're living in an old mill house with four other roommates and you got the couch on the front porch and a keg set up, out there and you're just living this this, party lifestyle, you know working in the restaurants at night and then drinking away the rest of the night and waking up at, you know one o'clock in. The afternoon And that's ashville like, like that that mentality that scene and people people want that for the rest of. The life and that's why you end up seeing these people who are sixty five years old still living. LIKE that i mean they have a, trust fund don't get. Me wrong that's how they can. Do it but everybody else that doesn't have a, trust fund they're just in poverty and hooked. On Drugs and i've said This to ashville is a case study and long term. Drug, abuse anyway back to, this piece a new report From The Major Cities chiefs association shows that violent Crime in Raleigh and charlotte. Had increased this was. Last year there's a general lawlessness that has grown into a violent crime problem and a cause of downtown deterioration and uneasiness from. The public progressive das not prosecuting low level crime is a major source of. The lawlessness another source is the distrust toward police that spiked after the Killing Of Saint. GEORGE floyd i added the saint. Part there both have made it harder to implement the broken windows policing and community policing shown to be most effective for creating. Thriving downtowns here's another Message, On, twitter pete these people are they are broke? Not hungry talking about you Know, the yeah the PEOPLE that i mentioned that my wife has offered food and look a lot of times the people take the food. From her but on occasion there are some that refuse to take the food. From her she'll walk out of a restaurant and one TIME she i told her this was the wrong thing. TO do i do not. Advise this. She got she met somebody for lunch, or something and they leave the restaurant and, somebody, says HEY can i have some money? For food and, she's, LIKE well i don't have any money to give. To you, she's like but if you want something, to, Eat, like i'll, You Know i'll i'll get you something AT this i think it was a. Pizza place i'll get you something in, The, restaurant like come on into, The restaurant i'll buy you. Some food and, He's like i'm not allowed to go. In there so obviously he was known to the proprietor of. This establishment so, she says, all, right well, you know tell me what you Want and i'll go in and. Get IT and i need, a menu, All right so she goes against. The menu she brings in the Menu is i'm, A vegan like this is a, pizza, Place, man like WHAT did i have a? VEGAN option i don't? Even know, And whatever and she ends up buying this guy something that he said. He wanted she brings it out and then he turns his nose up at it and chastises her for not giving her him, A fork like do you understand what that does to somebody with a kind heart that tries to do? Something? Good right do you think now she's more or less likely to ever do? That, AGAIN well i can tell you she's, less likely not really because of, his actions but MAINLY because i, told her don't you ever do? That again like you you are not you are not to. Do that and somebody sent me an IMAGE from i Guess. It's shelby they have posted signs on the side of the road at these hot spots for for, the panhandling for the flying signs guys you know that, you know, need help, homeless veteran that kind. Of thing they've put up signs there telling people do not, encourage panhandling. Encourage help and then they've got the like logos for the various charities that, that help and they've got to think, they've, got like, you know one of those one OF the, qr codes those things like that's a. Better alternative direct people to the resources that can actually help them if that is in fact what they. Are Seeking, all right that'll do it for. This episode thank you so much. FOR listening i could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on, the podcast so if, you'd like please support them too and tell them you heard. It here you can also become a patron At my patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow. Dot, com again thank you so much, for listening and don't break Anything while. I'm gone