The lies that media allow Democrats to tell (08-20-2024--Hour2)

[00:00:04] What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to 3 on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, go to thepetekalinarshow.com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button, get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for your support.

[00:00:28] The email is pete at thepetekalinarshow.com and on Twitter at Pete Kaliner. And much as it pains me to say, a lot of people have a reaction to Brian's call, which I suspect is what he wants. Right? He likes to stir the pot. He's nodding. He's... Brian called at the... in the last hour. And Brian, I've had enough phone calls with Brian to know, Brian is not an honest...

[00:00:58] good faith debater. He doesn't come to the program in order to talk about substantively anything. He's just here to denigrate, mock, make fun of Donald Trump and that sort of stuff and to malign people, accuse them of stuff. It's not a good faith approach. And I always give Brian another shot, another bite at the apple, if you will.

[00:01:24] So when he asked me why I was hating on the Democrats, why do I hate the Democrats? And I explained to him, I thought in a fairly succinct manner, to which he could have then replied and we could have gone into any of the... any of the reasons.

[00:01:39] I think I said that Democrats are generally economically illiterate. They're authoritarian statists. And they... and they entrap people, free people, with promises of free things.

[00:01:55] And so I don't like that. Right? I disagree with that. I disagree with their philosophy. I disagree with their policies.

[00:02:02] And then I even tried when he said that the Republican Party had changed. And what did I say? We actually had a moment of agreement where if he was a good faith arguer, he would have recognized what it was that we agreed on, which was that the political party, the Republican Party, has changed.

[00:02:25] I agree. MAGA, quote unquote, has taken over the Republican Party. I'm not happy about that. I've expressed that for a long time. I am not a fan of populism, which is... that is on both sides.

[00:02:41] Democrats have a strain of populism. Democrats have a strain of populism. I'm not a big fan of populism. So... because it's kind of... in my mind, it's very much like a mob.

[00:02:55] I understand it can be... it can be useful to... to get policies done. But generally speaking, when you... when you are, you know, beholden to the whims of the mob, you end up with bad policy.

[00:03:10] But Brian didn't want to talk about that either. He just wanted to keep hammering away that Donald Trump is a convicted... or sorry, no, sorry.

[00:03:19] A person... formerly... formerly... incarcerated... a formerly incarcerated person. I think... is that the term they're using now?

[00:03:31] That the Democrats, that Brian's crowd is... is using. They prefer this term rather than felon. They don't like the term felon anymore, except, of course,

[00:03:39] if you want to bash Donald Trump. And so... Brian... Brian doesn't care about a convicted felon... running for office. He doesn't care.

[00:03:49] If it was his felon, he wouldn't care. He's saying it in order to make me feel bad. That's why I told him I don't care.

[00:03:56] And Brian really didn't have a response to that, which lays bare the shallowness of his argument, right?

[00:04:04] He's not making an argument as to why a convicted felon should never be elected to any office.

[00:04:11] He doesn't say that.

[00:04:13] Because then you could maybe say, a convicted felon, should they be allowed to vote?

[00:04:17] Should they be allowed to have a firearm?

[00:04:19] Should they be prohibited from working in certain fields, right?

[00:04:22] Like, all of these are other questions.

[00:04:24] But Brian didn't care about that. Brian cares about making me feel bad,

[00:04:27] me feel embarrassed, so I say, I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump because he's a convicted felon.

[00:04:34] That's why they use it. It's an emotional cudgel.

[00:04:38] That's it.

[00:04:39] And so when I say I don't care, it doesn't matter to me.

[00:04:42] Now, if Donald Trump were convicted of something else, I might care.

[00:04:45] For example, if the Steele dossier, if that was true, which it wasn't,

[00:04:54] and nobody has been convicted for promoting that disinformation

[00:04:58] and corrupting our Department of Justice to go after the orange man, right?

[00:05:05] Nobody has suffered any penalties for that.

[00:05:07] No, they got talking gigs, talking head gigs on CNN and MSNBC.

[00:05:13] They got rewarded.

[00:05:16] People of the left, Democrats, got rewarded for that hoax, for the lies,

[00:05:22] for the damage that they have done to our institutions and to the Republican Party, right?

[00:05:29] Because what they did to Donald Trump for the last four years

[00:05:33] has now completely eroded the trust in these institutions and parties.

[00:05:40] Nobody paid a price for that, right?

[00:05:43] So when I originally heard the Steele dossier story, I was like, oh my gosh, this sounds really bad.

[00:05:49] And then Mueller does his investigation.

[00:05:52] It's like, oh, wait a minute, there's really nothing to this.

[00:05:54] And then you find out, we have now found out that it was all just a hoax.

[00:05:58] But if let's say that was true, if the Steele dossier was in fact true,

[00:06:03] then yeah, he probably shouldn't be president again.

[00:06:05] No.

[00:06:06] You get convicted for felonies that are legit convictions for legit crimes,

[00:06:12] then that's one thing.

[00:06:14] But people do not see the Manhattan DA conviction in the district that it's in with the jurors that it got with the judge.

[00:06:25] I mean, imagine any other case, right?

[00:06:30] Imagine Joe Biden being put on trial and the judge's daughter is fundraising for Trump.

[00:06:39] Right?

[00:06:40] Like, really?

[00:06:42] And the judge made donations to Trump?

[00:06:44] Really?

[00:06:45] You think that that would have credibility?

[00:06:48] It does not.

[00:06:49] But they don't care.

[00:06:51] It's the same reason Brian says he's a felon.

[00:06:55] It's the same reason.

[00:06:56] Get the convictions.

[00:06:57] If they get overturned, it doesn't matter.

[00:06:58] It's an emotional plea.

[00:06:59] And if you need any evidence of it, just watch the Democrat convention.

[00:07:02] They must have said it a million times last night.

[00:07:05] Just keep hammering and hammering away at it.

[00:07:10] All right.

[00:07:11] So let me let me get some phone calls on here.

[00:07:13] Let's go to Tara first.

[00:07:14] Hello, Tara.

[00:07:15] Hey, Pete.

[00:07:17] You make so much sense.

[00:07:18] But here's the deal.

[00:07:19] Well, I keep Brian on because if MAGA defines Republicans, he defines Democrats.

[00:07:26] Do you remember the yelling last night?

[00:07:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:07:29] Starting with Hillary Clinton?

[00:07:31] That reminds me of when my children were little and they would do something wrong.

[00:07:34] The louder they yelled back that they didn't do it, I knew they were guilty.

[00:07:40] Same sense with the Democrats.

[00:07:42] They just seem to, if you yell loud enough, they'll believe me.

[00:07:46] It reminds me of Americans when they go overseas, they can't speak the language and they just

[00:07:51] speak English louder.

[00:07:53] Loud, yes.

[00:07:53] Like that's going to translate into French.

[00:07:55] Yeah, exactly.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:56] Tara, I appreciate the call.

[00:07:57] It's, there's a, there is a tantrum quality to it.

[00:08:02] You know, there is a tantrum quality.

[00:08:05] I'm just going to see, I'm just going to scream louder and louder and louder.

[00:08:10] And that'll make me right.

[00:08:12] Denise, welcome to the show.

[00:08:13] Hey, Denise.

[00:08:15] Hello.

[00:08:15] You have a great show, by the way.

[00:08:17] Thank you.

[00:08:17] And your handling of that caller was wonderful.

[00:08:20] Laughed out loud.

[00:08:21] So anyway, I wanted to just two points.

[00:08:24] I hope Donald Trump will take the time to address both of these.

[00:08:28] And one is the, the, the issue of guns being the major cause of deaths in children.

[00:08:34] So we're all imagined, we're all invited to imagine these are preschoolers sitting with

[00:08:39] their hands folded in a kindergarten desk or something.

[00:08:42] The children age group is one through 19.

[00:08:46] Right.

[00:08:47] And 80 something percent of the children are in that age category where they're in gangs.

[00:08:54] And that's what the source is.

[00:08:56] And it's not assault rifles, which is what he tried to link this to.

[00:08:59] Calvo and I banned assault rifles.

[00:09:01] They're not being killed with assault rifles.

[00:09:03] They've been killed with a Glock.

[00:09:04] Right.

[00:09:05] Okay.

[00:09:05] So, and then the 8% that billionaires pay of taxes, this is his imaginary, by the way,

[00:09:13] it's nowhere in the tax code that you're taxed on your undeclared wealth accumulation, but

[00:09:19] rather on your income, be it capital gain or earned income.

[00:09:23] And so this 8% is simply imaginary.

[00:09:25] It doesn't exist in the current tax code.

[00:09:28] So anyway, a lot of, a lot of opportunity to beat back things, including what you were

[00:09:32] saying about the education situation with the closed school where teachers refused to go

[00:09:37] back into the classroom until they got busted to the top of the line for, for vaccines.

[00:09:43] Right.

[00:09:43] I mean, we had a 90 year old.

[00:09:46] So lots for Trump to talk about.

[00:09:48] And will he?

[00:09:50] God willing.

[00:09:52] God willing.

[00:09:53] Will he?

[00:09:54] I don't know.

[00:09:55] Probably not.

[00:09:56] Denise, great points.

[00:09:57] I appreciate it.

[00:09:58] You come with the facts.

[00:10:00] And this was one of the most difficult things in watching the day one last night of the

[00:10:06] convention is the lies.

[00:10:09] Right.

[00:10:10] And then the lack of the quote fact checkers.

[00:10:13] These things, these lies only get told like this over and over again.

[00:10:18] Joe Biden told the Charlottesville lie again.

[00:10:22] This has been debunked for seven years and he still says it.

[00:10:27] His origin story is a lie.

[00:10:30] And the only way you get to do that for seven years is if media doesn't hold you accountable.

[00:10:37] That's why I say elections are about what media make them.

[00:10:40] Let me go over here to Michael.

[00:10:42] Hello, Michael.

[00:10:43] Welcome to the show.

[00:10:45] Hey, Pete.

[00:10:46] Love the show.

[00:10:46] Thanks, sir.

[00:10:47] I have a question.

[00:10:49] I'm curious if you can inform me or anyone really about the accomplishments of Kamala

[00:10:56] Harris, because according to me, I may have missed a thing or two.

[00:11:00] But as far as I can tell, her scorecard as a vice president is zero across the board.

[00:11:07] I mean, the one blatant thing that sticks out was she was the border czar appointed by Biden

[00:11:13] and along with Alejandro Mayorkas.

[00:11:16] I mean, that situation is a complete mess.

[00:11:19] So in essence, what has she done to prove herself as qualified as the future leader of the greatest

[00:11:27] nation in the entire world?

[00:11:29] That's my question.

[00:11:30] All right.

[00:11:30] So admittedly, the answer to this question shifted a little bit five weeks ago.

[00:11:38] OK, so prior to five weeks ago, your your understanding was 100 percent correct.

[00:11:45] OK, five weeks ago, after the party leadership overthrew their nominee and installed Kamala

[00:11:54] Harris, now she is responsible for everything Joe did.

[00:11:58] So now we are to believe that everything that the Biden administration did, she was working

[00:12:06] with Joe the whole time, but had no idea of his mental decline, mind you.

[00:12:12] He just he I guess he hid it from her somehow.

[00:12:16] But she gets credit for everything that he did, too.

[00:12:21] Yeah, that's that's crazy.

[00:12:23] I mean, to me, it just sounds like more gaslighting.

[00:12:26] I mean, it sounds like the Bolshevik revolution is in full bloom here in America.

[00:12:30] And I mean, you know, you can thank George Soros and Klaus Schwab for this gaslighting campaign

[00:12:36] that's, you know, run rampant all over the Democratic Party.

[00:12:40] I mean, I am an unaffiliated voter.

[00:12:43] I mean, I voted for Trump the last two times and will again this time just because I'm in

[00:12:51] America first.

[00:12:51] First, I'm a patriot.

[00:12:53] And these people are globalists.

[00:12:55] And if you're uninformed, voluntarily ignorant folks like Brian want to drink the Kool-Aid,

[00:13:04] then let them have at it.

[00:13:06] Yeah, no, I hear you, Michael.

[00:13:07] I appreciate the call, sir.

[00:13:09] And you mentioned the term gaslighting.

[00:13:11] I got a message here from Dennis asking me to explain what the difference is between

[00:13:15] gaslighting and telling a lie.

[00:13:18] OK, so telling a lie is part of gaslighting.

[00:13:22] OK, so you have to start off with the lie.

[00:13:25] Now, the term comes from an old black and white movie, gaslights in the house, right,

[00:13:30] where you could adjust the amount of gas that would come out of the lanterns in the home,

[00:13:36] right?

[00:13:36] So to brighten the house up or darken it, whatever.

[00:13:39] And so this movie, the husband, I think, would turn the gaslight up and down and mess

[00:13:46] with his wife.

[00:13:48] And then she would say, did it just get brighter?

[00:13:50] And he'd say no.

[00:13:50] Right.

[00:13:52] So the purpose of the lie is what makes it gaslighting.

[00:13:57] So you start with a lie.

[00:13:59] But the purpose of the lie is to make people question their own understanding of what is

[00:14:06] real.

[00:14:07] That's why it's a form of psychological abuse, because you're making people doubt their own

[00:14:13] interpretation of reality.

[00:14:15] Wait a minute.

[00:14:16] I'm seeing I'm seeing these lights go on and off.

[00:14:19] Wait a minute.

[00:14:20] I was alive during covid.

[00:14:23] I remember you guys saying all of this stuff.

[00:14:26] No, it didn't.

[00:14:26] Donald Trump was the one that did that.

[00:14:28] Right.

[00:14:28] What's the point of the lie?

[00:14:30] The point of the lie is to make you accept their false narrative, their what their story

[00:14:37] to make you believe their story.

[00:14:38] So it alters your perception of what was.

[00:14:42] That's what makes a gaslighting.

[00:14:44] Again, it's a sign of psychological or it's a form of psychological abuse.

[00:14:48] For example, Biden last night said that they fundamentally transformed how our economy grows.

[00:14:56] Now, Biden and Harris fundamentally transformed the economy by creating three years of scorching

[00:15:01] inflation.

[00:15:02] Sure.

[00:15:03] They did that fundamentally by applying short term stimulus in a supply chain crisis against

[00:15:08] the advice of people who actually understand economics like Larry Summers, former advisor

[00:15:14] to Obama and Clinton and the middle class and the working class households still have not

[00:15:19] recovered.

[00:15:20] But what do they tell us?

[00:15:21] They say we fundamentally transform the economy, how it grows and you're benefiting.

[00:15:26] See, so your understanding of what is real is not what is real.

[00:15:33] They're trying to get you to doubt yourself.

[00:15:35] So when you go to the grocery store and you're paying more for the groceries and you're like,

[00:15:39] I'm paying more for groceries.

[00:15:40] No, you're not.

[00:15:41] You're not paying more for groceries.

[00:15:43] I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:15:45] The purpose is to make you doubt yourself and your own idea of what is real.

[00:15:50] All right.

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[00:16:20] I have a bunch of messages here on Twitter.

[00:16:23] Tim Mateo says we all enjoyed that.

[00:16:26] I told you so moment when the left finally saw Biden for the dementia patient.

[00:16:29] We had been telling them for years that he was.

[00:16:32] There will be no joy in saying I told you so to Brian and others when they finally see

[00:16:36] in Kamala what we on the right see.

[00:16:38] At that point, it will be too late.

[00:16:41] There was a there's a writer that I follow on Twitter.

[00:16:45] He goes by the name of Sonny Wright.

[00:16:49] And.

[00:16:51] He had a great point.

[00:16:52] This was from this morning.

[00:16:54] He says the media for a few short weeks, fairly and honestly reported on the nation's top Democrat.

[00:17:03] His reelection campaign immediately collapsed.

[00:17:06] Democratic polling immediately collapsed.

[00:17:09] That's the extent to which the media is hackery is responsible for Democratic political fortunes.

[00:17:15] I believe he's exactly right.

[00:17:18] I believe he's exactly right.

[00:17:20] If Democrats had to play with a media that was as adversarial to them as the Republicans have to.

[00:17:27] I think a lot of this stuff would fix itself.

[00:17:30] I really do.

[00:17:31] And like I know and I've got a piece in here that has assessed the the coverage and the positive, negative coverage of the candidates so far.

[00:17:42] And I'm sure it won't surprise you to learn that Kamala Harris has enjoyed overwhelmingly positive news.

[00:17:49] And Donald Trump has suffered overwhelmingly negative news.

[00:17:54] I say elections are about what media make them.

[00:17:56] Right.

[00:17:57] And this is why my fear is that when Democrats are in power, the media will not hold them accountable as they would Donald Trump.

[00:18:07] Regardless of the policies here.

[00:18:09] This has nothing at all to do with whether or not I like Trump or hate Trump or like Harris or hate Harris or or their policies or anything.

[00:18:17] It has to do with the media.

[00:18:19] And if the media is not going to hold them accountable, then I'm going to pick somebody who the media will hold accountable because that's the best way I can protect myself.

[00:18:31] That's where I'm at now.

[00:18:34] Dean, welcome to the show.

[00:18:35] Hello, Dean.

[00:18:36] Dean.

[00:18:37] Hi, Pete.

[00:18:38] Hey, if you'll allow me, I have two comments about from watching the convention.

[00:18:44] The first one is about if you listen to what they were saying, I think that you'd walk away.

[00:18:51] And my opinion is that the election is going to come down to if you like Trump or you hate Trump, because if you listen to the context of the convention, you know, there's not much to support.

[00:19:08] So I think you could strip away all of what they're going to offer or not.

[00:19:12] People are going to vote with their hearts.

[00:19:14] You either love Trump or you hate Trump.

[00:19:16] That's how the votes are going to go.

[00:19:18] So I don't know.

[00:19:19] That was my one conclusion.

[00:19:22] Okay.

[00:19:23] And as I watched the Democratic convention, it sort of reminded me of Rome.

[00:19:31] And Rome was the number one civilization.

[00:19:34] They were a great civilization.

[00:19:37] And there was a ruler, Nero, who ruled.

[00:19:44] And his legacy is that he partied as Rome burned.

[00:19:49] And all I could picture is all the people outside and all the groups and all the diversity.

[00:19:54] And here they are inside and, you know, completely oblivious and party on.

[00:20:02] And it just, you know, I mean, who says history can't repeat itself?

[00:20:07] Well, it may not repeat, but it rhymes, right?

[00:20:09] That's the old axiom.

[00:20:11] Dean, I appreciate the call.

[00:20:12] Everything, everything I believe, I believe everything moves in cycles.

[00:20:21] Civilizations, popularity of a bar, right?

[00:20:24] It's brand new.

[00:20:25] Oh, look at that.

[00:20:27] This is a new thing.

[00:20:27] And then people catch on.

[00:20:28] They like it.

[00:20:29] It grows.

[00:20:30] It's going gangbusters.

[00:20:31] People get complacent.

[00:20:33] They take advantage.

[00:20:36] All of the success masks problems.

[00:20:39] Happens with sports teams, right?

[00:20:41] And they win a lot.

[00:20:43] They don't ever have to fix whatever was wrong because they're winning.

[00:20:48] Political campaigns as well.

[00:20:50] In economics, this happens.

[00:20:52] You know, the green shoots.

[00:20:53] You know, you have this creative destruction that occurs where, you know, the, you know,

[00:20:58] with the horse and buggy, right?

[00:21:00] The buggy whip makers, right?

[00:21:02] An entire profession destroyed with the advent of the automobile, right?

[00:21:08] Was that, does that mean that the automobile was bad?

[00:21:11] No.

[00:21:11] Just things move in cycles.

[00:21:14] So, yeah, I believe that if you don't constantly try to perfect and reform the things that need

[00:21:24] to be fixed because our government is a man-made construct.

[00:21:28] So, of course, it's going to need maintenance.

[00:21:31] It's going to need repair work.

[00:21:33] You can't just set it on autopilot.

[00:21:35] I think a lot of people, particularly conservatives, have let it go on autopilot because they've been

[00:21:40] interested in other things.

[00:21:43] And then you end up being governed by activists and people that are super motivated to destroy

[00:21:48] it because they have a different idea about what they would like to see in its place.

[00:21:55] So, last night, Joe Biden did it again.

[00:21:59] He cited the Charlottesville protests and the murder of, I think her name was Heather Heyer,

[00:22:05] and cited this as his reason for getting into the election.

[00:22:10] This is his origin story.

[00:22:12] Here's what Biden said.

[00:22:13] We're facing inflection point.

[00:22:16] One of those rare moments in history when the decisions we make now will determine the fate

[00:22:23] of our nation and the world for decades to come.

[00:22:27] That's not hyperbole.

[00:22:28] I mean it literally.

[00:22:29] No, it's not hyperbole at all, Joe.

[00:22:31] We're in a battle for the very soul of America.

[00:22:33] Not hyperbole.

[00:22:34] I ran for president in 2020 because of what I saw in Charlottesville in August of 2017.

[00:22:44] Extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches, their veins bulging from their necks,

[00:22:54] carrying Nazi swastikas, and changing the same exact anti-Semitic bile that was heard in

[00:23:01] Germany in the early 30s.

[00:23:03] By the way, have you heard what the people out front of the convention hall are screaming?

[00:23:08] Just curious on that one.

[00:23:09] Neo-Nazis.

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:11] White supremacists.

[00:23:13] The Ku Klux Klan.

[00:23:16] So emboldened by a president then in the White House that they saw as an ally.

[00:23:22] They didn't even bother to wear their hoods.

[00:23:27] Hate was on the march in America.

[00:23:29] Old ghosts and new garments.

[00:23:35] Stirring up the oldest divisions.

[00:23:39] Stoking the oldest fears.

[00:23:42] Giving oxygen to the oldest forces.

[00:23:46] That they long sought to tear apart America.

[00:23:51] In the process, a young woman was killed.

[00:23:54] When I contacted her mother, I asked about what happened.

[00:23:58] She told me.

[00:24:00] When the president was asked what he thought had happened, Donald Trump said, and I quote,

[00:24:07] there are very fine people on both sides.

[00:24:09] Oh, for the love of me.

[00:24:10] My God.

[00:24:11] That's what he said.

[00:24:12] These people in that audience believe that.

[00:24:14] That is what he said and what he meant.

[00:24:16] They believe it.

[00:24:17] That's what I realized.

[00:24:19] Had to listen to the admonition of my dead son.

[00:24:21] I could not stay in the sidelines.

[00:24:25] So I ran.

[00:24:27] That's Joe Biden's origin story.

[00:24:30] And it is a lie.

[00:24:33] Snopes finally got around to fact checking this.

[00:24:36] This year.

[00:24:38] Seven years later.

[00:24:40] Oh, to be a Democrat.

[00:24:42] I tell you what.

[00:24:43] We just heard Joe Biden.

[00:24:45] With his origin story, if you will, how the spider bit him and then he got the superpowers, right?

[00:24:52] No.

[00:24:53] How he heard.

[00:24:53] He heard Donald Trump say good people on both sides.

[00:24:58] From the Charlottesville protests that ended up with that maniac driving his car through a crowd.

[00:25:05] The following day, if I recall correctly, and killed a girl, killed a lefty activist.

[00:25:14] And President Trump held a news conference.

[00:25:19] And here is the exchange of what actually was said by Donald Trump at the time.

[00:25:25] On both sides, sir.

[00:25:26] You said there was hatred.

[00:25:27] There was violence.

[00:25:27] Most of us are.

[00:25:28] I do think there's blame.

[00:25:30] Yes, I think there's blame on both sides.

[00:25:32] You look at you look at both sides.

[00:25:34] I think there's blame on both sides.

[00:25:36] And I have no doubt about it.

[00:25:38] And you don't have any doubt about it either.

[00:25:40] And if you reported it accurately, you would say.

[00:25:47] Until the first, they showed him a Charlottesville.

[00:25:50] They showed him a Charlottesville to protest.

[00:25:52] And you had some very bad people in that group.

[00:25:56] But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.

[00:26:03] You had people in that group.

[00:26:04] Excuse me.

[00:26:05] Excuse me.

[00:26:06] I saw the same pictures as you did.

[00:26:08] You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue.

[00:26:16] And the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

[00:26:21] George Washington was a slave owner.

[00:26:24] Was George Washington a slave owner?

[00:26:26] So will George Washington now lose his status?

[00:26:29] Are we going to take down?

[00:26:30] Excuse me.

[00:26:31] Are we going to take down?

[00:26:33] Are we going to take down statues to George Washington?

[00:26:36] How about Thomas Jefferson?

[00:26:37] What do you think of Thomas Jefferson?

[00:26:39] You like him?

[00:26:40] Okay, good.

[00:26:41] Are we going to take down the statue?

[00:26:42] Because he was a major slave owner.

[00:26:44] Now are we going to take down his statue?

[00:26:46] So you know what?

[00:26:47] It's fine.

[00:26:48] You're changing history.

[00:26:49] You're changing culture.

[00:26:51] And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.

[00:26:57] But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?

[00:27:04] And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

[00:27:07] Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers.

[00:27:13] And you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats.

[00:27:20] You had a lot of bad people in the other group, too.

[00:27:23] You were treated unfairly, sir.

[00:27:25] I'm sorry.

[00:27:25] I just don't understand what you were saying.

[00:27:26] You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?

[00:27:28] No.

[00:27:28] I just don't understand what you were saying.

[00:27:29] There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before.

[00:27:33] If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

[00:27:43] I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones.

[00:27:45] The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people.

[00:27:50] Neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.

[00:27:54] But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest because, you know, I don't know if you know, they had a permit.

[00:28:03] The other group didn't have a permit.

[00:28:05] So I only tell you this.

[00:28:07] There are two sides to a story.

[00:28:10] I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment.

[00:28:16] But there are two sides to the country.

[00:28:19] He explicitly says it.

[00:28:21] They should be condemned.

[00:28:23] He explicitly says when that woman asks him, wait, are you saying?

[00:28:27] First off, anytime somebody starts the question with, so are you saying I know it's going to be garbage after that, right?

[00:28:33] They're going to be twisting whatever it was I did say.

[00:28:36] Are you saying the white nationals are good people in the white?

[00:28:39] He says no.

[00:28:41] I'm talking about the people that showed up to protest the renaming of the park and the removal of the statue.

[00:28:48] And then there were bad people among them, too.

[00:28:51] And then on the other side, you had Antifa and you had some good people, too.

[00:28:56] Right.

[00:28:57] You had good and bad people on both sides.

[00:29:00] That's what he was saying.

[00:29:01] And that this protest that occurred over the course of two days.

[00:29:06] He said it was marred by violence.

[00:29:07] He said it was a terrible thing for the country.

[00:29:10] And this is supposedly what Joe Biden heard that prompted him to get off the bench and go run for another try for presidency.

[00:29:20] It's a lie.

[00:29:22] And they know it's a lie, by the way.

[00:29:24] Well, maybe Joe doesn't know it's a lie.

[00:29:26] He may not know it's a lie.

[00:29:27] But the people around him and the media know it's a lie.

[00:29:31] And they still let him say it.

[00:29:34] They let him get away with it.

[00:29:35] They let him tell these stories.

[00:29:36] They let Democrats tell the stories.

[00:29:39] My God, there was a woman up there talking about Project 2025 last night.

[00:29:43] Just ridiculous.

[00:29:44] This is what Trump wants to do.

[00:29:47] That's a lie.

[00:29:49] That was the Heritage Foundation.

[00:29:50] Bunch of white papers from think tankers.

[00:29:52] Donald Trump has specifically said that's not mine.

[00:29:55] Because it isn't.

[00:29:57] He's got his own platform that he put out.

[00:29:58] But it doesn't matter.

[00:29:59] See, if the media treated Joe Biden and Democrats like they treat Trump and Republicans,

[00:30:07] I think a lot of these issues get tamped down.

[00:30:11] Because people believe then that the refs are calling a fair game.

[00:30:17] And right now, they don't.

[00:30:19] And the reason they don't is because they're not.

[00:30:23] They're absolutely not.

[00:30:25] And the data bears it out.

[00:30:29] That's why I do various forms of this topic virtually every day.

[00:30:35] Because to me, it matters more than just, yes, I mean, okay, fine, dragging some media people.

[00:30:41] Okay, that's fun for everybody.

[00:30:42] But to me, this is a very existential kind of a problem.

[00:30:47] Because you've corrupted your institution, the media, which as a former reporter, really hacks me off.

[00:30:56] Really hacks me off.

[00:30:58] Because you've got a responsibility not to cheerlead for your team, not to cover up and expose the other guys and cover up your team.

[00:31:07] That's not what you're supposed to be doing.

[00:31:10] And when you do that, you undermine confidence in all of these institutions that you touch.

[00:31:15] All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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