The dark underbelly of illegal immigration and its funders (11-21-2025--Hour3)

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The News and Observer, in the Charlotte Observer, the McClatchy Papers, they did a story Danielle Battaglia reported on some comments that US Senator Tom Tillis made at a Senate hearing that occurred yesterday, and Tom Tillis said he wants Homeland Security to provide him with the full list of people who were detained, how long they were detained, whether they were released, and what property was damaged of theirs during their arrest, and whether or not they've been provided any proper restitution. I have no problem with that information being demanded or provided I'm fine. I gave the analogy of the body cams being worn by law enforcement. Totally fine with it. But there was a line here when she said that he said this during a hearing of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, and he said he believes border patrol is now in his state because Sheriff Gary not my fault. Macfedden used sanctuary city policy. So last hour because then she says, well, you know, sanctuary cities were banned by the state legislature, and they were because of the actions of cities like Charlotte and others, right, So you guys were doing this stuff and it prompted the state to say no, stop doing this stuff, although Charlotte is a certified welcoming city. And I went over all of that in the last hour, but I was unaware that there was this Senate committee meeting yesterday. So I went to the YouTube and I found I found the hearing. It only ran an hour and a half and Democrats boycotted it. Democrats refused to attend this hearing, which was on ice. It was it was about this very thing. They had brought in a couple of or three people actually as witnesses and one of whom is Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas that is located in the southwest part of the state. It's halfway between Laredo and Houston. Okay, I have his opening statement here, and he is going to map it out for all of you lunatics on the left that are out there saying like, oh my gosh, you're just you know, detaining people that haven't done anything in all of this. He's going to map it out for you. This is way bigger than just you know, the guy cutting your grass or hanging Christmas lights on the front yard. This is way bigger. He's going to map it out here. I'm here. I'm here to discuss the current situation with the Guards law enforcement and the enforcement of the laws, and more specifically, the implementation of the two eighty seven g Task Force model and the need to expand the program and change our model of conducting law enforcement operations across the United States of America. Here's why these efforts are important to the future of our nation and the safety of our citizens. While illegal immigration has been a historical issue along the US Mexico border, this changed more than a decade ago when the cartels seized control of the border regions in Mexico and change their business model to include smuggling of people. When that and the cartels began controlling who came across the border and began torturing and killing anyone who attempted to violate their control by crossing into the US without paying the cartels. Did you have it? They started torturing and murdering anybody who didn't use the cartels, which then locked down a market monopoly. This control gave rise to a new way for the cartels to conduct business throughout the United States and beyond. In Mexico, the federal government leases territories to criminal organizations and what they refer to as the plaza system, the Mexican government allows cartels to conduct limited smuggling and trafficking activities in exchange for a monthly fee, with any activity above and beyond requiring additional payments to government officials as attacks on excess illicit commerce. The Mexican government is protecting these corridors under a plaza system, and then they're collecting revenue from the cartels. So there was a financial incentive for the Mexican government to keep these corridors open. The cartels have replicated this Mexican government's program and with geographic control throughout the United States. I've witnessed this firsthand when I was the chief deputy for Victoria County Sheriff's Office, which is next door to Goliad. The Golf Cartel took control of the cocaine trade in Victoria and surrounding counties. They then leased the sole distribution rights for the dealing of pure cocaine to the Houston chapter of the Mexican Mafia. The Golf Cartel then sent out people onto the streets to tell the other dealers that unless they were authorized distributors of pure cocaine, they would have to cut their product by at least fifty percent with inert material. What do you think? Inert material may include probably stuff not good for it, not that cocaine as But this is a franchise model, right. We are going to be the only ones that allow one hundred percent pure coke. Anybody else you got to cut it fifty to fifty. We don't care what else is in it, but it can't be anything more than fifty percent pure, which means people aren't going to want to buy from you. Right, If they want the best quality, they're going to have to come to us, the Golf Cartel and our dealers. And it's not just dealers. You have to have distribution logistics, right, You need people, You need places to operate out of. Do you see where this is going. It requires employees, It requires people to participate in various ways in the business model. Right. If you stop thinking of it as a crime syndicate, which it is, but if you stop thinking of it more like less as a criminal enterprise but more of a business model, you can see where this is going. Right. After operations were underway, the cartel sent people back out on the streets to purchase cocaine from non authorized distributors for the purpose of testing the product for purity. If the cocaine was without inert product, the dealer was given a warning about violating the cartel's control of the product within the plaza. During this time, we began to receive word from local cocaine dealers that local cocaine dealers were disappearing. Many families were not reporting their missing loved ones to the authorities out of fear of retribution from the cartel and the Mexican mafia. In total. Our contacts on the streets advised that at least ten drug dealers had refused to dilute their product and had been disappeared, never to be seen again. This is in America. This is how they're taking control of this market. Right. They show up at your door like you're not authorized by us to deal some of your product. They test it. That's too pure, and now they take you off and murder you, chop your body up, bury you in a ditch someplace. Only one family went public and sought justice for their son. We never found him or discovered what became of him. More his remains. The other aspect of this new business model is that cartels began using illegal aliens smuggled into the United States as part of their logistic workforce. When people are smuggled into the US, they must pay a fee of the cartels in order to gain safe passage in our area. Most illegal aliens are smuggled into Houston for transport across the eastern half of the United States. Let me stop there for a minute. Do you remember the Maryland man, the guy who got busted. He was picked up in Tennessee or had stopped in Tennessee. Remember he had a van full of illegal aliens and he said he was driving from Houston back up to the Maryland area. And he's working on some jobs or something. That's their main transport corridor. That's what he's doing. He's moving personnel around for the cartels. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life. And our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Mint Hill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. 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Yeah, all right, So this is again Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas, mapping out the way that the cartels took control of the human smuggling corridors through Texas or through Mexico. Rather, they pay the Mexican government to allow this to occur, and by controlling that human smuggling corridor, they can smuggle people because you got to remember, people are just a commodity to the cartels, just like cocaine or fentanyl or anything. It's what was the big one, he said, he'll say it here, you'll hear it, but he says, the human smuggling. It's putting people into their business model and they need people to then fan out across America and help them run their operations. And these are people that are threatened with death of themselves or of family members or something if they don't help, if they don't comply. Well, it's in Houston. They are given the final amount that they owe the cartels and their contractors for being here. From there, the illegal aliens end up in various forms of indentured servitude across our nation. However, as part of that obligation of the cartels, these people have to be willing to provide labor and other services to pay off their final. Debt indentured servitude to the cartels. You on the left that have been promoting amnesty, open borders, all this stuff, you do not occupy an ethical high ground here. Okay, you are advocating a system that puts people into indentured servitude to cartels. That's what you're doing, and you have been doing. I find it grotesque. You're not going to shame me, you know, you're not going to be able to say, oh, look at you. You don't care about these people. Who cares about the people? Me? Who says, shut this all down, break up all of this model, get these people free from the cartels. Prevent people from getting into the pipeline in the first place. Where if they are young and female, they will be abused. They'll be molested and raped along the way as payment for getting access into America. I'm the bad guy in that scenario, or are you the bad guy? Are you the morally bankrupt person that is trying to make some argument that I should want cheaper landscaping and if a couple thousand girls need to be raped at the border, so be it. That's not a morally superior position. It never has been, and that's why these Democrats didn't show up at this hearing today. We have interviewed many illegal aliens who have been smuggled into Texas during our investigations. What we found is that some will pay off the debt with money over a period of eight to thirteen years. Some will pay off the debt by smuggling other illegal aliens or drugs into. The United States Maryland Man. Some will move illegal aliens and drugs from one area of the interior to another. Others will be placed in a forced prostitution or will be called upon to provide material support and the unloading or moving of drugs in the areas in which they reside. If you think these indentured people can just decide not to cooperate once they are here. That is not the case. The cartels have a vast intelligence network and keep records of the people they smuggle, to include family member information. Have had illegal aliens involved in criminal activity tell me that they had no choice but to commit criminal acts in order to prevent their family members from being placed into bondage and doing unspeakable acts in their home countries. What this means is that millions of illegal aliens now residing in the United States are part of the logistical support operations for illicit cartel activities throughout our country. By the way, imagine a scenario where somebody, maybe you, you make this journey and the cartel says, hey, you know what, we're going to move you through, but you're going to pay us this money, and when we get you to Charlotte, you're going to help us do this illegal work. You're going to help us with our logistics. You're going to make some drop offs, pickups, whatever. So now you've got to pay off this debt for eight to thirteen years in Charlotte. You can't go back, right, you can't go back to your like, Okay, I'm going to go back home. Can't do that now because you owe them this debt, and you're not going to go back to the place voluntarily because then they'll kill you in your family. But what if you got de ported. That's not your fault. You got swept up and they sent you. The US government caught you and they sent you back. That's not your fault. Look, I even tried to run. I tried to ram the vehicle with my own vehicle. I tried, I tried to get away, but they caught me. Is that actually a way out of the bondage? See, if you start thinking the way the cartel thinks, you start thinking the way a true victim of the cartels abuse things. You start thinking like that, then some of these operations don't look quite the same. If our goal is to dismantle cartel operations in the United States, we must never be able. We will never be able to do so unless we deny them the logistical capacity conduct business and a manner that generates an acceptable stream of revenue to be moved from the United States into their home countries. In order to take the initiative and what can only be deemed is asymmetrical warfare against the cartels, and their business partners. Law enforcement must change their mindset, must change their methodology. We must look at what we have been doing in the past and ask if the billions of dollars we have spent are accomplishing the primary goals of the missions of the programs implemented. In most cases, I will speculate that with an honest assessment, we will find that most of the federal dollars being pumped into law enforcement programs is remaining in urban areas where expense versus real and is not in balance. According to ICE dot gov, as of November fourteenth, twenty twenty five, there were one thousand, one hundred and sixty seven local and state law enforcement agencies in forty states that had signed memorandums of agreement for the at least one of the two eighty seven g programs. Only six hundred and five of those agreements are for the participation of the task force model, which is a model that allows local and state law enforcement to conduct field immigration enforcement under the supervision of ICE. With more than eighteen thousand local law enforcement agencies in the US, six hundred and five agencies assisting ICE in the field is insufficient. This isn't even he's not so what he's talking about. The task force model. That's not even what we had in Mecklimber County that our sheriff got rid of. That was just identifying people that came through the jail. That's it. It's just identifying them and then letting ice know, hey, come get this guy there illegal. The task force model is a separate two eighty seven G structure, and only about half of the agencies across the country that are participating in the two eighty seven G program are part of that task force model. He wants that number to go up. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. 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Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliad County, Texas, Okay talking about the human smuggling being used to support the logistical operations and that law enforcement in America needs to rethink the way we are combating. This to hinder the profit margin of the cartels. If we are to succeed in this monumental task. This effort of defeating the cartels, we must restructure our law enforcement efforts. We must disregard those who stand in the way of change, ignore the anti American median media outlets working against the interests of Americans, and create a new chain of command and organizational structure that allows it for the synergy throughout full spectrum of law enforcement and streamlines the functionality in a manner that demands results and accountability, while ensuring funds are being utilized in accordance with their intended purpose. This purpose must be to defund and prosecute organize criminal activity throughout America, which will not happen if we fail to enforce our immigration laws and deport those who have violated our sovereignty and have placed themselves at the disposal of organizations who victimize our citizens. All right, And then he did say later on he called it a national security of the high issue, of the highest order. Then there was Mia Cathell, investigative journalist at the Washington Examiner. When the uprisings against Ice erupted on the West coast in June, we saw uniform signage, tactical gear and boots on the ground. Activists deployed to Los Angeles, the epicenter of the unrest, almost instantaneously. These certainly were not spontaneous riots. They were well coordinated and in fact well funded. What we uncovered was an orchestrated operation, and those at the forefront of the anti ICE resistance have received ample funding. Chief among them is the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles or CHURLA for short. CHURLA, a five oh one c three nonprofit as part of a sprawling anti ICE activist network in the Los Angeles area. Serving as rapid response to deportation sightings, CHURLA instructs its followers via blue Sky to report ICE encounters to Los Angeles Rapid Response Network abbreviated LAUREN. CHURLA co founded Lauren and late January with the expressed intent to counter the incoming Trump administration's immigration policies. Here's how it works. In response to reports of immigration enforcement called in over its hotline, Lauren sends out sales comprised of immigration lawyers, legal observers, and activist organizers in order to mobilize counter efforts against ICE. This rapid response model is replicated elsewhere across the country using crowdsourced surveillance software, some quite sophisticated or simply social media, to track ICE activity in the region and alert activists as well as illegal immigrants, to nearby ICE agents. CHARLA has acquired its funding from federal and state sources pay According to churla's tax filing from fiscal twenty twenty three, the group reported receiving about thirty four million dollars in government grants unreal. In its capacity as a legal services provider, CHURLA helps illegal immigrants, including those convicted of crimes, avoid deportation. Grant records show that Homeland Security, the very agency Churlist Protesting, has awarded the anti deportation group several six figure grants since twenty fourteen as part of an immigration aid program that financially supports organizations actively working to remove barriers to naturalization. CHARLA has also received generous taxpayer funding from the State of California. In twenty twenty three, the state's Department of Social Services awarded CHURLA about three million dollars for an initiative providing free legal services to immigrants, such as application assistance and cases seeking immigration remedies. City's deportation relief. In twenty twenty two, Charla received one point three seven million dollars from California's Social Services Department, specifically to provide pro bono defense services and removal proceedings. Charlie's deportation team, nicknamed Warriors for Justice, was bankrolled by the Los angele Less Justice Fund, a public private partnership between liberal grant making foundations, the City of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County. These grantees formed a removal defense pipeline in the county. Another far left agitator group fomenting anti ICE unrest is the foreign funded Party for Socialism and Liberation. The chapters mass mobilize their forces and major US cities, many of them so called sanctuaries or Saint Haven's, welcoming illegal immigration. At the time of the Los Angeles riots, PSL activated its followers from all corners of the country to take to the streets, rise up in solidarity, stage parallel protests, and force ICE out of LA, a rallying cry that has since been repurposed for cities targeted by federal immigration authorities. San Antonio Arm explained to local press at the time that the more cities that opposed ICE operations. Through these pressure campaigns, the more difficult a federal crackdown becomes. PSL chapters, such as the ones operating in Washington, d C. And Milwaukee, continued to convene ICE out rallies to stop the raids. Most recently, PSL laden Emergency March in Charlotte, where activists were seen waving Mexican flags to drive out border patrol and quote defeat the deportation machine. PSL Charlotte began circulating call to action material days before Border Patrol made landfall in North Carolina. A coalition of local and national organizations sponsored the protests, including fifty to fifty one, one of the organizers behind the nationwide No King's Movement. An individually checked, these powerful actors work in tandem to advance agendas harmful to the safety and security of the nation. Their shared objective is to obstruct the enforcement of US immigration law legislation that Congress enacted. Simply put, the men and women of ICE are law enforcement officers passed with carrying out their congressionally mandated duties. They are under increasing threat of targeted attacks and hostile demonstrations that often devolve into violent clashes at this rate, I fear more political violences to come unless federal officers take further steps to protect our federal officers. And by the way, Charla has a fundraising campaign on the platform Act Blue, and that's probably why Democrats boycotted this hearing. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I put the link in the podcast description too. I started using ground News a few months ago and more recently chose to work with them as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the left and the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground, dot news, slash pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Pregaming with Brett Winterbull host three to six here on WBT. Brett, how are you o oy? It's good to be here. So you caught the last bit there of this journalist from the Washington Examiner. There was a Senate hearing yesterday about these things, and Democrats boycotted it, right, and it didn't get any coverage like in our local media, sure state media. I haven't seen anybody do anything about it, which I think would be kind of important given that's what we've been sort of talking about Charlotte almost exclusively for a week now. Are you surprised at that level of coordination that she laid out? No, not at all. I mean really not at all, because look, the Democratic Party was put together as a slave party, and let's be honest about that. Yeah, and what do we have that the Democrats are defending now, that is slaves coming into the United States, men, women, children, whatever, And so they're being right on brand. I mean, it's right. It shouldn't even be called Charlotte's Web. It should just be called the old the old South tradition, which is DEM's gonamn, DEM's gonna demn. And so you know that everybody knows that. And you have a bunch of people who I think that this is just Brett Woodable saying it. Not Pete Callander, I believe that there is a large constituency in the House, in the Senate who is getting paid by the cartels period full style. I had, I had a message that I read earlier someone said that exact same. Thing, because it's the only reason why these these people have such high, fullut and high end lifestyles. I mean, where do you get this mind. I'm not saying so it's not the really good stock trading. No, it's not the well that's part of it. That's part of it. But the other part of it is, you know, people are people are getting donations to their to their offices. Like Luke Swallwell just announced that he's going to run for the governorship of California. He has zero chance, but that dude's got some questionable practices that he's done. It's maybe coming from Asia, but it's it's something totally different. When I grew I grew up in I grew up in the desert, I grew up in El Paso. I was there for a long time, and we where we lived. The very first time we were there, was was the all the Feds were up on the hill right right right above us, and they were they were trying to target all this kind of stuff and fight all this stuff. But that was pre Cartel's I mean, meaning the gunfights and the things like that. They managed it like you would to mafia. And and then it just exploded. And it's just it's really it's really sad to see that people will tolerate, you know, what they will, which is slavery. I mean, it's it's still happening. Well, and there are people, I am sure, and I see them online and I know some people who have you know, they they go for the empathy, right, they're susceptible to it. And I talked about this suicidal empathy earlier in the show too. But you know, they their heartstrings get tugged by who by the you know, chasing this poor person down, sending him back to his home country. It's just here to make a living, provide for his family. Wasn't breaking any look except for of course coming in illegally, maybe some documents fraud or something. But right, but what you don't know is is that person's actual story. Right. The media may tell you he was just a marilynd Man, just a marilynd Man, absolutely, but his backstory, he might actually be. As the sheriff from Texas that I played his testimony, that they may actually not be here. They well, they use the cartel to get here, and then the Cartel's like, now you're going to work in one of our distribution centers. You're gonna unload our trucks, you're gonna do this stuff. You're you're gonna give us intel wherever you go to work. It's a business, right, I said, It's it's like a Starbucks franchise here. Right. So these people may not actually be able to get out their indentured server of course, right. And if they were to try to go home, they'd be killed, their family would be killed. If they try to say I'm not going to do this work for the cartel in America, They're going to be killed, their family be killed. But if they get caught and they get deported. That might actually be the only way for them to break free. But you have an institute that exists on the other side of the border where they're just going to go find them and kill them. Even if it's not their fault that they got deported as part of this mass round. Hey they lost money, sure, I mean they don't have that money's now gone. The thing I'm disappointed with in terms of the operation here right now is you go in and you try to decapitate the heads. You don't go down to the low end unless you're going to try to get those people to flip. And unfortunately, it seems to me this this has been chaotic. I mean, I have to be honest, it does seem to be chaotic here. Which is why they're coming back. I think they said, well then they are. Yeah, they said they're coming back, sending a new team to Okay. So what if this is the thing. What if the heads are up in and not. Here, the heads are in where Raleigh, not here. What if they're rolling them up there and they're getting the intel and they're coming back. Yeah with the end I mean this idea that like they're gonna tell us that law enforcement's gonna tell us all of their operations. I don't understand this idea in the media, like just tell us where you're operating, Like why would they do that? Like when you go take out a Hamas member, No no, no, no serious. I'm not saying like you're shooting missiles, but you've gotta go take them into custody. Can you do it at four o'clock in the. Morning when everybody's asleep and they've been doing opium and then you throw them in the van and take them and say, okay, start start talking what you got or we're gonna give you the somebody else? All right, that's Brett Winnable. I'll see you next week. I'm off next week. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, Thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.