The Bad Border Bill and loving America (02-08-2024--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowFebruary 08, 202400:28:5726.56 MB

The Bad Border Bill and loving America (02-08-2024--Hour3)

This episode is presented by Carolina Readiness Supply The President now says he CAN do some border security measures in the wake of the failure of the Bad Border Bill. Also, Pew Research finds Democrats do, actually, not think America is great.

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[00:00:36] I do appreciate it when Mike calls. And at the end of the last hour, I talked with Mike

[00:00:42] and as Mike Dasely, he's the he's a local attorney, Democrat. He used to be the lawyer.

[00:00:48] I think he was lawyer general counsel or something for the Mecklenburg County Democrat

[00:00:52] Party. I don't know how long ago that was, but I remember it was probably like 15 years

[00:00:58] ago or so, 20 years, 20, 15 years ago. And I always, I appreciate him calling in and

[00:01:06] having the debates, you know, these arguments. And you know, he's a lawyer and I'm media.

[00:01:12] So we kind of love to just argue, well, mainly I'm a political science guy. So I enjoy it.

[00:01:17] I enjoy the discussions. But I, like, I, I think it is illustrative of sort of this disconnect

[00:01:26] that we have when, when discussing this issue, but others as well, that I know Mike's position.

[00:01:35] And I don't think Mike knows mine. I know the information that Mike is presenting. And

[00:01:41] I don't think Mike knows mine. And that is, I think, illustrative of the larger issue

[00:01:47] at play in so many different arguments. I have, I've made this, this point when talking

[00:01:56] about election integrity, for example, when this usually arose around like the big fight

[00:02:02] over voter ID and usually the first response in a, in an argument over voter ID would be

[00:02:10] something like, Oh Pete, there is no, there's no such thing as vote fraud or election fraud.

[00:02:18] Doesn't happen. So then I would present evidence that it does happen, because it does happen.

[00:02:24] It happens all over the place. You get examples here, there everywhere, every single election

[00:02:28] cycle, there's always a, there's always a story. So for people to make the assertion

[00:02:32] that there is no fraud, that is a lie, whether they know it or not, that is not true. So then

[00:02:40] I present to them, you know, usually I'll, I'll forgive them a story. I'll say, here's

[00:02:44] what happened in the last election or this recent election, whatever. So this happened.

[00:02:49] So then there's a fall back. The fall back is, Oh, well, it doesn't happen a lot. Okay.

[00:02:58] So then I can bring out some more examples. Here are some other places, some other elections,

[00:03:03] different, you know, people got busted, whatever. So then it becomes subjective as to, you know,

[00:03:09] what is a lot? And that's, that's, that's trickier to argue if I can present to you three,

[00:03:14] four, five, six, seven cases or whatever. Now it's like, okay, because you can keep going

[00:03:19] back, you can keep coming forward with more evidence. So then you have another fallback

[00:03:26] position and the fallback then becomes, well, it doesn't actually happen enough to, to

[00:03:33] change the outcome of an election. And then you can actually provide them information

[00:03:39] and examples where it has because that has actually happened. In fact, any race, any

[00:03:46] race and every single year we have an election, you always hear about a story of a race that

[00:03:52] ended in a tie every year, right? Last election, the last election cycle in North Carolina,

[00:04:01] there was some mayor's race that was decided by the flip of a coin, because that's what

[00:04:06] the state law requires, or the local code or whatever, flip a coin. This has actually

[00:04:12] determined election outcomes in North Carolina and other states for decades, if not centuries,

[00:04:21] the flip of a coin, chance when it's tied. So any race where there is a tie, that means

[00:04:28] that fraud can affect the outcome of that result, because all it takes is one because

[00:04:35] it's a tie, right? So statistically, mathematically speaking, it must be so that it affects the

[00:04:44] outcome of some race somewhere, right? That's logic. Okay. So then when you, you make this

[00:04:51] argument and maybe even you cite what happened in Bladen County, North Carolina, the overturning

[00:04:57] of those election results, right? Did affect the outcome of that election? No, Mark Harris

[00:05:03] wasn't the congressman, right? Right. He never got the service term in Congress after all

[00:05:08] of that. So it does affect the outcome. So then after you do that, and meanwhile, by

[00:05:15] the way, when you're having these debates, this take place over you on social media or

[00:05:18] something that takes place over the course of an extended period of time. And by the time

[00:05:25] you get to the third or fourth fallback position, where then you're like, okay, find it affected

[00:05:33] the outcome of an election. Okay. But it's not widespread, right? And now it's like, now

[00:05:39] you have to, you've got to make this argument that it is affected like the presidential

[00:05:43] race. Okay. And by the time you get there, you're usually

[00:05:47] the, you know, day two of a social media debate or something. And then it just kind of falls

[00:05:53] away. They go on to other things and they block you or mute you or whatever. And then

[00:05:59] couple weeks go by and you'll see them again and you'll see them on the Facebook or the

[00:06:05] Twitter or whatever. And what do they do? They go all the way back to the very first

[00:06:09] argument. Oh, this, this election fraud doesn't happen. You don't need voter ID. This happens

[00:06:16] so many times over the last decade when I was arguing in favor of voter ID and I was taking

[00:06:23] phone calls and we were having, you know, social media debates or radio debates on this stuff.

[00:06:29] It was always the same pattern. And that's the same pattern that I see with the immigration

[00:06:34] debate. The same thing, like what is the first thing that we've been told by the Democrats

[00:06:43] over the last three years? It's that it's not a crisis. The border's secure. That's been

[00:06:51] their position for three years. And within the span of three days, it turned into a crisis.

[00:06:58] And the border is not as secure as it needs to be. And so therefore we have to give Ukraine

[00:07:02] 60 billion dollars. That's, that's where this, that's where it all flipped. It was a bribe.

[00:07:13] It was a bribe that Democrats wanted and the leadership of the Republican party wanted

[00:07:18] and they misread their colleagues, Republican leadership, misread their colleagues in the

[00:07:23] Senate. And more importantly, they misread the electorate, right? The polls have shifted.

[00:07:30] I understand Donald Trump made calls and Donald Trump was like, don't do anything, you know,

[00:07:35] that's going to take this issue off the table for me. I know, I understand that. And for

[00:07:40] Democrats, that's going to be enough because orange man, bad, they see everything through

[00:07:44] the prism of Trump. I do not. I don't view everything through the prism of Trump. I am

[00:07:49] aware that he said that. And maybe that swayed some people over to his side or not. I, but

[00:07:54] when I saw the vote or I saw the details come out on Sunday night, it didn't take Donald

[00:08:02] Trump to tell me, oppose this bill. I don't listen to Donald Trump for that kind of advice.

[00:08:08] Maybe some lawmakers do. Maybe enough of them do. I don't know. I do know this. I do

[00:08:13] know this. Donald Trump had told people don't do the bill unless it's an excellent bill.

[00:08:20] And media chopped off the last part of that admonition. If Republican, if the Democrats

[00:08:29] in the Senate had come forward and said, we will go ahead and do HR two, that the Republicans

[00:08:35] in the House passed, do their border bill? If the Senate said, we'll take up HR two.

[00:08:41] Yeah, we'll, yeah, we'll do that. There would have been no problem. That would be law if

[00:08:47] Joe Biden would have signed it, right? If Democrats would have been willing to negotiate on HR

[00:08:52] two, but they weren't. They didn't take that bill up. They instead construct this entire

[00:08:58] gang of aid crap in order to get Ukraine funding and, and a facade of border security that

[00:09:07] actually just codifies the discretionary ignoring that the president is currently doing. And

[00:09:16] it puts it into the law and it says any challenges get to be determined by the DC court of appeals

[00:09:21] or the DC circuit court rather. Where, by the way, Biden will always win. Democrats

[00:09:26] will always win in that court. It was a terrible bill. And, and that, and that's just the beginning

[00:09:32] of it. I've gone over all of the deficiencies in this bill for the last 48 hours. Got a bunch

[00:09:37] of emails here. I don't think his name is mine daily. All right. Mike. Okay. Every time

[00:09:43] Mike calls. It reminds me how lucky we, how lucky we are that Alec McMillan beat him.

[00:09:51] I don't like three or four consecutive times in the race for Congress. I, I don't know.

[00:09:57] I wasn't. I don't know. I don't remember him running. Did he run? I mean, I guess he

[00:10:00] did if John says so. I believe John. Thomas says, I just walked into your conversation

[00:10:08] with Mike. My head is about to explode. I believe he has missed the first rule of immigration.

[00:10:13] It has to be legal. You are correct. There are countless numbers of terrorist suspects,

[00:10:18] gang members. Now Chinese military aged males that are in our country due to the policies

[00:10:22] of the last three years. We, the people should be very skeptical of anything coming out of

[00:10:26] Washington right now. I believe that most politicians there do not have our nation's

[00:10:32] best interest at heart. This massive push of illegal immigrants looks like we have nationwide

[00:10:37] electorate gerrymandering taking place. Jason, welcome to the program. Hello, Jason. Hey,

[00:10:45] how you doing? Hey, I'm good. What's going on? Hey, all this talk about the, the border

[00:10:51] and the new bill. I'm just trying to get your opinion on what you think about the just strictly

[00:10:58] the border patrol in the, in the bill. If it's good or bad. You are the one that the bill

[00:11:04] that failed? Yeah, I know there's more to it, but I hear both sides and to me, it's kind

[00:11:13] of like more politics than anything because I mean, I heard the border patrol agents all

[00:11:20] for it. And that's my thing is, or you for the, what's in it, for the border patrol alone?

[00:11:27] Do you agree with that or not? Yeah. Well, so there were different aspects of the, of

[00:11:31] funding for different board of patrol and immigration customs

[00:11:34] enforcement programs, right? There was, I mean, it's a 370 page bill. So there were

[00:11:39] all sorts of different, yeah, there were all sorts of different things. So the union chief

[00:11:44] came out and said that they support the bill because it had a lot of extra money for agents.

[00:11:49] It had more hiring of more agents unions generally like when you hire more agents because then

[00:11:53] they can draw more money out of those paychecks. But a lot of the board of patrol rank and file,

[00:12:00] they did not agree with their union leadership on the bill.

[00:12:04] So that's where I needed to correct you because the actual chief of the board of patrol agent was

[00:12:11] was interviewed by Martha McCallum and he was all for it. That's what I said. Well, he's the chief.

[00:12:18] You said they, so him and the legal counsel were for it. That's what I said. I said the board of

[00:12:25] patrol chief was for it, but the rank and file said, in fact, some board of patrol agents are

[00:12:31] accusing the chief of being bought off, which I don't believe. But no, he's a friend of mine.

[00:12:36] Oh, well, that's fine. I just, Jason, don't hear what I don't say. I said specifically,

[00:12:44] the chief agreed with it. He was supportive of it, but a lot of rank and file union members were

[00:12:49] not. So there was disagreement among the board of patrol rank and file and leadership on

[00:12:55] certain aspects of the bill and the totality of the bill. So, right, it's not a clean

[00:13:01] forward or against it, good or bad. There are different components. Like, for example,

[00:13:05] there's a part of this stuff that's called the alternatives to detention, the ATDs.

[00:13:11] And what the bill called for in the ATDs was just, it was a complete mess. Also detention space,

[00:13:18] they had 34,000 detention spaces right now that Congress is funding that are not being used,

[00:13:23] yet they're going to expand it to 50,000. So if you say, well, the bill says they're going to

[00:13:27] expand it to 50,000, is that good or bad? Well, I guess that would be good. But if they're not even

[00:13:33] filling the 34,000 they currently have, then no, it's not good. All we're doing is throwing money to

[00:13:39] create detention spaces that nobody's using. Well, on certain aspects, but if you at least want to

[00:13:46] stop the gushing at the border and all that, I just thought that you knew what you can now.

[00:13:53] And like the chief said, you have amendments and it just seems like it doesn't stop the gushing.

[00:14:02] But it doesn't stop the gushing. It does a little bit. I actually worked the border

[00:14:06] for 11 years and eight of those years were on board tech. That's how I know Jason. And I can

[00:14:11] tell you all about it. You could actually look up a guy named Alexander Kirknick. He was shot and

[00:14:18] killed and I was on the ground in Nogales, Arizona back in June of 1998. I know all about the board.

[00:14:23] So why then? So why then would you allow 4,000 encounters to come through? Why allow 4,000

[00:14:28] encounters to come through? There's still a process to it. He's talking about there's more

[00:14:35] getting by without anything done. That's the problem. There's either you do something

[00:14:42] now or just let it go. And then you worry about it at a later date. Why not re implement the

[00:14:49] remain in Mexico? Oh, that would be great. But the president, that's right. That could be done

[00:14:54] right now by the president. But if anything, at least have something in play to do something

[00:15:02] about the border and instead of just no, let's just leave it alone. No one's saying leave it alone.

[00:15:07] Well, no one's doing anything right now. Because it's not what I'm saying.

[00:15:11] The chief. Jason, what if doing something makes it worse? The something that you're asking to be

[00:15:18] done codifies this discretion that the president has been using to make it be what it is right

[00:15:25] now? Why would we want that to be codified? Well, I would I would ask the people instead of just

[00:15:31] the politicians to listen to the main guys in the border patrol that have actually worked it and

[00:15:37] they might have a little a little insight on how to get it done. If you want to run a bill that's

[00:15:43] strictly the border patrol funding components, I suspect that bill would be wildly successful.

[00:15:49] Because that's the original conversation I was having. Do you support just the border patrol?

[00:15:56] That's my concern. Right. But I'm not going to say, but so here's your false dichotomy. You're

[00:16:02] saying it's I got to take it all of it or none of it, right? I'm saying do the border patrol funding

[00:16:07] secure the border every Republicans are fine with that. But you're not going to bribe me

[00:16:13] with codification of the worst elements of the current policy. That's like telling me I have to

[00:16:18] pay all of the terrible teachers the same amount of money as the best teachers. I'm not going to

[00:16:23] do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to be bribed like that. I'm not going to be

[00:16:26] extorted. It's I'm not going to that then that's just me. You know, but I'm not a politician. So

[00:16:31] email is Pete at the Pete calendar show.com and on the Twitter machine at Pete calendar,

[00:16:38] where I got this from Melissa. It's a Pete tweet. My father used to say the worst thing the

[00:16:45] public can say to government is do something. Exactly. That's not wait. That's not it. I'm not

[00:16:54] calling on Pam. Okay, but no, that's true. This call to just do something. We need to do something.

[00:17:02] This gets to a comment that I forget with Jason that Jason made right before the news,

[00:17:09] talking with Jason. He said he used to work on the border and that we need to do something.

[00:17:14] Yes, but that doesn't mean we do something bad. You're not going to get me to agree

[00:17:19] to do this one part that's good. If it's going.

[00:17:22] want to mean that all this other stuff, this bad stuff happens and you put it down

[00:17:28] in law that now it can't be changed.

[00:17:32] That's and I know law can be changed, but the difficulty of amending it and he's like,

[00:17:36] Oh, come back at amendments.

[00:17:37] And have you seen what's happening in DC for the last decade?

[00:17:42] Gridlock and I'm okay with gridlock.

[00:17:45] Stuff doesn't happen.

[00:17:46] Here's the deal.

[00:17:47] Right?

[00:17:48] You run a border patrol and ice funding bill.

[00:17:51] Which, by the way, the Republicans in the house did HR to nobody's bashing the Democrats

[00:18:00] for not taking that up and voting for it.

[00:18:02] Right?

[00:18:03] No, no, no.

[00:18:04] We're all going to beat up on the Republicans for not going along with this terrible bill

[00:18:07] that they ran as a bribe for Ukraine funding.

[00:18:12] That's what that was and it was to give this fig leaf of I'm doing something about the

[00:18:18] border to Democrats in Biden because they are so under water on the polling right now.

[00:18:24] All right.

[00:18:25] Let me go over here to the phones and talk with Gail.

[00:18:27] Welcome to the program.

[00:18:28] Hello, Gail.

[00:18:29] Hi.

[00:18:30] I just wanted to thank you and Pam and your people who work for you like Brendan Dixon

[00:18:35] and John.

[00:18:36] You all paid are so happy and don't let those folks break your happy bubble.

[00:18:44] Oh, thank you.

[00:18:45] Just keep it up, man.

[00:18:46] You're doing a good job.

[00:18:48] I love to listen to you and as far as Jason's concerned, he sounded like he had been on

[00:18:55] the border since 2000.

[00:18:56] Oh, well, I don't know.

[00:18:58] I think he, I think for him, and I found it interesting too, where he said that his view

[00:19:05] was that he was, you know, allying himself with the border union chief and because he

[00:19:11] knows him, he's friends with that guy and I get that.

[00:19:14] That's totally fine.

[00:19:15] I don't see any experience working down there, but what, what he, what he was doing was the

[00:19:20] same thing essentially that Pat McCorry did, right?

[00:19:25] Right.

[00:19:26] Where they said, I, like Pat said, I read the Wall Street Journal editorial.

[00:19:29] They were for it.

[00:19:30] So I'm for it.

[00:19:31] And I'm not going to do that.

[00:19:32] I'm not going to outsource my decision making to somebody else, even if they're my friend.

[00:19:38] I'm not going to do it.

[00:19:40] So.

[00:19:41] And I don't blame you for that.

[00:19:42] And you're absolutely right.

[00:19:44] I heard Pat McCorry say that he had outsourced any information at one point when he was serving

[00:19:51] as governor to one of his staff.

[00:19:54] Well, that's not what he's there for.

[00:19:56] And they're not there to do that.

[00:19:59] So I think, I don't know how Mr. Mike is the attorney, but sounds like he needs maybe

[00:20:06] a little mental health.

[00:20:08] Oh my goodness.

[00:20:09] No, no, he's okay.

[00:20:11] Mike's okay.

[00:20:12] And I've said this many times before for different people, look, I would be very hard

[00:20:18] pressed to sound any better than Mike in some of these debates.

[00:20:24] Because he's having to argue an illogical position.

[00:20:29] It's a very difficult philosophy to defend, you know?

[00:20:32] And so I sympathize with a lot of people on the left for that very reason because they're

[00:20:37] doing the best they can.

[00:20:38] And I'm up to be a Democrat and there's just such a terrible, terrible taste in my mouth

[00:20:44] for them right now because I'm also older and I understand what's going on out there.

[00:20:49] But it's not what we need for our country.

[00:20:52] I'm very patriotic, two flags, front and back.

[00:20:57] And I love my country.

[00:20:59] My family loves my country, our country.

[00:21:02] So keep up the good work.

[00:21:03] Well, thank you.

[00:21:04] No, don't burst that bubble, keep that happiness going with Miss Pam.

[00:21:09] She's a sweetheart.

[00:21:10] Yes, she is.

[00:21:11] We love Pam very much.

[00:21:12] Thank you very much.

[00:21:13] Gail.

[00:21:14] I appreciate that call.

[00:21:15] Thank you, dear.

[00:21:16] Thanks.

[00:21:17] Good to talk with you.

[00:21:18] Take care.

[00:21:19] That's very sweet.

[00:21:20] By the way, I do have the latest PU research on what Americans think about our country.

[00:21:32] I might be bursting some bubbles on this one.

[00:21:35] All right.

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[00:22:22] Hello, Chris.

[00:22:23] Welcome to the program.

[00:22:24] Hello, Pete.

[00:22:25] Hey.

[00:22:26] What's up?

[00:22:27] Apparently, people are getting into the fact that Mitch McConnell, and maybe the public

[00:22:32] is seeing this, Mitch McConnell got caught with his hand elbow deep in his cookie jar

[00:22:37] and they're resentful about it.

[00:22:39] So I just would like to submit 2 words for people to start spreading if they would.

[00:22:44] 2 words.

[00:22:45] Ditch, Mitch.

[00:22:46] Yeah.

[00:22:47] Ditch, Mitch.

[00:22:48] I think there's an effort under way to do that exact thing.

[00:22:52] He only can conjure up what?

[00:22:53] That was his bill.

[00:22:58] He's only looking out for his own pocket, so ditch Mitch.

[00:23:03] All right, man.

[00:23:04] I appreciate the call, Chris.

[00:23:05] Thank you.

[00:23:06] All right.

[00:23:07] Good to hear from you, buddy.

[00:23:08] Yeah, it's true.

[00:23:09] been uh, divulged by Democrats senator. I think it was Chris Murphy who said that Mitch McConnell,

[00:23:16] they were part of these negotiations. All of this stuff was part of what he wanted to see

[00:23:22] happen. And then he just basically paraded Langford or Langton or whatever the guy's name

[00:23:27] is just paraded him out there to be the face of this thing. But this was a Mitch McConnell

[00:23:33] operation. Uh, let me get Keith on here as the final caller of the day. Hello, Keith.

[00:23:40] Welcome. How you doing, Pete? Hey, I'm good. What's up? Uh, listen to those guys call

[00:23:48] him a Border Patrol agent. The guy before him. I can't remember what his name is. Got

[00:23:52] to do something tight. Mm hmm. But I'm, I'm a naturalized citizen. My father was in

[00:23:58] the service. My mother was an Italian national. I had to be naturalized. I had to wait till

[00:24:02] I was 15 years old to take the test. I had to be able to speak and write English. I had

[00:24:10] to know something about the history of the country, the constitution. There was a test.

[00:24:13] Mm hmm. I mean, me and my brothers were all born overseas. And we, we had to go through

[00:24:19] all that stuff. We've got laws in place for all of this stuff. And they're acting like,

[00:24:24] Oh, no, we've got to come up and say we need more money. And, and on the face of it when

[00:24:29] I first heard that, I was just like incredulous when I'm hearing all these people calling

[00:24:33] and saying, Yeah, good idea. It's not. I mean, I don't know if these people are on cracker

[00:24:38] or what the remain in Mexico. How many different executive orders did Biden roll back 94 at

[00:24:45] least office on day one. Yeah, there were 94 orders that I have heard of. Um, and there

[00:24:51] may be even be more than that. But yeah, the, the, the big one was the remain in Mexico,

[00:24:55] which prevented the people from coming across the border to have the encounter in the first

[00:25:00] place. You don't have to then process that. And you brought it up a, you brought it up

[00:25:04] a second ago. They put pressure on them by threatening to tax remittances from, I mean,

[00:25:10] I worked with a lot of Hispanics and they send a lot of money home. Right. Um, and the Mexican

[00:25:15] government knows this and they do not want to jeopardize that revenue source. And by

[00:25:19] the way, neither do the cartels that are running these human trafficking, uh, networks across

[00:25:25] the border. Well, that's to me, it's insane. And now I'm hearing people talk about how,

[00:25:32] I mean, they pay no attention to the news. They're not informed at all. But what they

[00:25:36] hear on NPR or whatever is the Republicans are blocking border reform. And that's all

[00:25:42] they hear. Right. Well, right. And this, and this is why I said earlier in the program,

[00:25:47] um, that the Democrat strategy on this, uh, never gets crafted, uh, and implemented as

[00:25:54] we see it without the knowledge that media will carry their message for them. That's

[00:26:00] the only way that this works. They know that. And that to me is a damning indictment on

[00:26:06] the media. The fact that the Democrats can actually plan a strategy that relies on, uh,

[00:26:12] on media compliance, um, in carrying this narrative. I appreciate the call, Keith. Um,

[00:26:17] yeah, it's super frustrating. Um, here's another, uh, uh, piece of info from Pew research.

[00:26:24] The share of Americans who say the U S stands above all other nations in the world has

[00:26:29] declined modestly over the past four years. According to a new Pew research center survey,

[00:26:35] there's also been an increase in the share who say other countries are better than America.

[00:26:41] This is a survey of almost 8,500 U S adults and there is a nine point decline, nine point

[00:26:53] decline among Republicans and, uh, leaning Republicans, those who say that the U S stands

[00:27:01] above all other countries. It went from 40% down to 31%. Another 51% of Republicans

[00:27:08] and GOP leaners, uh, say the U S is one of the greatest countries, 17% say other countries

[00:27:16] are better than the U S. Those are the Republican numbers Democrats. Nine percent say U S is

[00:27:24] above all other countries in the world. Nine percent. And by the way, that number has remained

[00:27:30] flat for four years. In fact, if you go back to 2011, uh, 2011, 31% of Democrats, a third

[00:27:44] said the U S stands above all other countries. There was only 8% of Democrats in 2011, 8%

[00:27:49] of them said other countries are better than America. Only 8%. Now it's 36%. The numbers

[00:27:56] have completely flipped for them for Democrats and those who lean Democrats. Oh, and by the

[00:28:02] way, the numbers are pretty much the same or actually worse among Democrats, uh, for the

[00:28:10] young age groups 18 to 29. See, like when, when people on the right accuse people on the

[00:28:20] left of, of not liking America and people on the left get very upset about it, just an

[00:28:26] offer this up as some advice. If you don't want people on the right to say these things

[00:28:30] about you, maybe, you know, I don't know, don't not like America, maybe like America,

[00:28:37] and then the criticism, like, probably won't stick. It won't sting at the very least. Anyway,

[00:28:42] what do I know? Just a radio host. I do know Brett Winterbolts coming up next, stick around

[00:28:45] for that. I'll see you tomorrow. Don't break anything while I'm gone.