Stacey Matthews on flags and terrorism (12-17-2025--Hour3)

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I see that we have another appeal to heaven flag scandal that the left is all up in arms about. I guess, since I guess the guy did delete the tweet. His name is Zach schermell squirmmel Scrammellimelle. From USA Today. Yes, and he did delete his original tweet. And for your listeners, a couple of years ago, the New York Times made a big deal about the fact that Justice Samuel Leito's wife Martha had briefly flown the American flag inverted in front of her home in DC. And then they did a follow up report and noted that she also flew an Appeal to Heaven's flag at their New Jersey Beach home. And this was a quote big deal unquote to the New York Times writers because this meant that because the flags were flown at the January the events of January sixth, twenty twenty one, it might mean that Justice Alito couldn't be an impartial justice on the January sixth cases. Because the Appeal to Heaven flag is the white flag with the pine tree in the middle, and it says appealed to Heaven, right. It's also I think the actual name is the pine Tree flag, but it's also known as the Appeal to Heaven flag. And it's kind of like, you know, how conservatives were treated when the guests and flag was being flown a lot at tea party, rallies and whatnot, that was treated by the media as a symbol of racism. So that's forward a couple of years and we have another incident involving the Appeal to Heaven's flag. This time someone at the Department of Education has it hanging outside of his office door and it was apparently spotted by someone in DC in the USA today said it was a symbol of Christian nationalism. Now, this flag originates actually from George Washington, I believe, had this flag commission and and the phrase appeal to Heaven actually originates from the political philosophy of John Locke in his Second Treatise on Government, and he used the term to describe the right of revolution, the idea that when a government doesn't protect the natural rights of its people and no earthly authority exists to help address that, then people have the liberty to appeal to God for justice, and that means, yes, taking up arms against unjust rule. So and that that does connect to you know, the nation and Christianity in some regards. So maybe it is a Christian nationalist flag. I don't understand like these people who don't know anything about our history, and and that we are a you know, a creedle society here in America. And like because they don't know it, they think that they know what the flag means. Uh. And and these these are reporters that ostensibly are supposed to be informing us about stuff. It's just amazing, right. Well, And the kind of interesting thing about this is that one of the things in the New York Times reporting, and it might have even been in the USA Today report as well, I can't remember, but they both have claimed that the flag fell into obscurity for about sixty years, which wasn't true because there was a state building in California, San Francisco that flew the flag for decades until the New York Times report came out and then they decided to take it down. I think, was it like San Francisco City Hall or something. Right, the story was, it's a couple of years old. But it's just, you know, we're at the point now where, you know, anybody that has carried the American flag or flies the American flag, it's going to be accused of being a co conspirator parjicuary because you know that flag was also fled, not just inverted, but you know, the actual upright flag was flown, you know, during the events of January sixth, So I have neighbors to it or downs that maybe I should to the right and the insurrection. Yeah, And then there was like there was some polling or some strategy memo that Democrats were talking about a couple of weeks ago. They were like, you know, that's about patriotism and how the Republicans have stolen this patriotism position from us, and they're not the only patriots. Like whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody can steal your patriotism from you, you know, like you guys surrendered that on your own by being afraid when you like we saw these reports about oh my gosh, I saw a truck driving with the American flag, you know, attached to the roof, and oh my gosh, this is so unsettling, Like you guys have done that on your own, Like right. I mean, nobody owns the American flag. It belongs to all the people. And I remember after nine to eleven happened, you know, there were reports that people the Democrats were were not wanting to fly the American flag in their neighborhood because they didn't want to be associated with the Bush administration, because the Bush administration was, you know, scouting patriotism for their actions and for standing firm against terrorism. After what happened on nine to eleven, and there was and after Obama was elected, there were reports and I believe there was a report in the News Observer about this where they talked about people in Raleigh and that area Democrats were proud to fly the flag again because we had a Democrat president. This is crazy. You fly the flag no matter who the president is. The president isn't representative of the flag. The flag is for the people. And you know whether or not the president is going by what he should go by in terms of the Constitution and honoring American principles. The flag belongs to the American people and what it represents, it represents regardless of who is in office. You mentioned nine to eleven there. You had a piece also at RedState dot com titled it really shouldn't be this hard to call out evil for what it is. And you've covered this since nine to eleven. You know, you refer to it as Islamic terrorism. Islami fascism, even as the woke left and their politically correct media allies have tried to cancel those of a similar mindset over so called Islamophobia, which I reject that term. I'm now just in full out rejection of this term because that it indicates an irrational fear of Islam. And it's not an irrational fear. It's completely rational in my mind. Like I'm looking at fourteen hundred years of existence and there's a pattern, so it's not irrational in my mind. Right. Well, you know, like I said in the piece I wrote at Redsday dot com about this yesterday, you know, Islamophobia apparently means being an awful person because you're able to recognize it. While not all terrorrists attack the world are committed by islamo fasctist, Islam aligned terror organizations like ISIS remain the most prolific, pervasive, and deadly. This is documented. This is not Stacy Matthews or Pete Callen or just that's not our opinion. It's it's the facts. It's just the facts, right, which makes it all the more troubling when you see, you know, what we have been seeing now with the latest uh you know, massacre at Bandai Beach in Australia, and it seems like there's a lot there are just a lot of people that are having a difficult time, uh, just calling out evil for what it is and uh and then I see what Australia's leaders they're like, oh, with the answer here is more gun control. It's like, well, you know what, maybe maybe you shouldn't have allowed all of the Jew hatred protests and such for the last two years, and you know, the vandalism of synagogues and such like, maybe you should have done something to address this when you had hundreds of people in front of the Sydney Opera House saying we asked the Jews within forty eight hours of the October seventh massacre, maybe that was the time to do something right. Well, Pete, yes, all this. You know, islamas Lama fascism is a worldwide thing. But the thing that's troubling as far as America is concerned is we're seeing it with increasing frequency here within our borders. You know, we've had multiple attacks this year alone. There was there was the one on New Year's Eve in Louisiana that was done by a man who was inspired by isis you know, of course, we had the shooting of the two National Guard members by the Afghan quote unquote refugee, So that's it's troubling that it's happening worldwide. We have some control over what happens here in our country, but we have to have leaders in both parties who are not only willing to call it out, but who are also willing to take action to combat it with more than just words. Stacy Matthews, you can read her work at RedState dot com. We have reach the break here, so Stacy, we're gonna let you go. I do appreciate you making time for us as always. God bless you, and Merry Christmas to you and your family. Merry Christmas and happy to know you're to you guys, Pete, thank you all right. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Douglas Murray has a piece at City Journal. Citydesh journal dot org is the website headlined the massacre at Bandai Beach was inevitable, you know, and he talked about, you know, chanting gas the Jews outside the Sydney Opera House. Two days after Hamas and other Palestinians invaded Israel, slaughter twelve hundred people took another two hundred and fifty hostage the Australian authorities did not take any meaningful action regarding that protest, no more than they chose to take action against the numberless protests in major Australian cities since October twenty twenty three, where protesters have chanted globalize the Intifada and much more so. Here's one of the other things too, these chants like the West is trying to grapple with this, Like, well, there is freedom of religion, it's free speech and all of that. But there's a fellow named the Imam of Peace. He's Muslim, and he's like, if you are espousing a theology that calls for my death, that's incitement to violence, and I'm going to remove you from my society. That's like, that's the line. It should be pretty clear when you say globalize the Intifada, that's that's what we are seeing. It means taking the violence against Jews and spreading it all over the globe. In fact, let me see here I've got. This is. Sharks Zada. He is a Sufi teacher. He's I guess Persian, and he took to the Twitter machine and he says it's a time for a tough conversation my fellow Muslims. Whenever a Muslim does a boom boom or pew pew act, and every Muslim's reaction is he doesn't represent us, he's not Muslim. We wash our hands from him. Your first reaction might be to say, wow, that's good, right. It's better that they say that than to support such a thing God forbid. But here's why, I think, ultimately that's actually not the right sentiment. It's a little bit like saying you're colorblind when it comes to race. Sure, I prefer that you say that then to say I'm a racist, But ultimately you're kind of not getting at what we really need to do, which is address the issue. So whenever Muslims say this person doesn't represent us xyz, it kind of doesn't work anymore because it's happening so often that it does represent us in a way. If a Mormon or a Jane or a follower of some religion where they truly don't do this type of stuff went out and did something like, for example, the guy who shot Charlie Kirk, I think he was Mormon. If Mormons say he doesn't represent us, I think everyone would say, yeah, that sounds about right. He doesn't represent you. But when the whole world has massive airports security, and there are ballards in European streets everywhere because people will run you over with a car, and when Christmas markets are getting canceled or shut down or curtailed, or when there's all kinds of security to get into subway stations or go all over the world, we're everywhere in the world. People are accustomed to this security rigamarole, these random checks, because there are so many acts perpetrated by people of Muslim backgrounds, it no longer convinces anyone or gets anywhere or gets anything done to say, oh, he doesn't represent us, I wash my hands of him. At some point we have to say, actually, that person does represent us. Here represents the worst of us. He represents something reprehensible in us, something that we despise. But when you just say, oh, he doesn't represent us, he's not one of us. That doesn't really represent us, no one really believes that anymore. It's time for us to say, actually, unfortunately, these people do represent us, and we need to have some serious internal dialogue, some serious internal policing to prevent these types of things. Those two cowards who did that act in Australia. They have family members, they have neighbors, they have community members. You're telling me that they drifted into the abyss of extremism and no one around them noticed anything or felt anything was off, or noticed any weird behaviors like joining a pew pew club and becoming an expert all of a sudden. You know, at some point we have to look in the mirror and say, there's something wrong with us. Too much extremism, too much rhetoric that leads to awful events, is normalized. Too much of this stuff just gets a pass, gets a blind eye. There are too many extremists running among us in our communities that we enable or we ignore, or we turn our way from. We can no longer turn a blind eye when we say they don't represent us. No one really believes that anymore. So whatever. Then, See, that's the problem, right because now since you know, well it even pre dates nine to eleven, But since nine to eleven, like, yeah, nobody, nobody can look at the course of events in the recent you know, three decades and think that this doesn't represent a percentage of Muslims. And that's a problem because people stop believing I think he's exactly right, Like people stop believing it, Like I'm not so sure. Why does this keep happening? And he talks about all of these events all over the world, right, I mentioned this yesterday Dar al Islam the land of Islam, and then there's the land of war, and that's it. And so the areas that they control, it's always they're always in border fights because it's a constant, you know, advancing of the front lines. Take more, you know, for Islam becomes part of your territory, and then you move on to the next. And that's been It's an expansionist, colonizing ideology, and it has been from the very beginning. Well I take that back, the very beginning when they didn't have the army and the number. Then it was a very peaceful coexistence kind of thing. And then the vibe all shifted when they got a lot of money and they got soldiers. But ever since then, it's kind of been their jam. You know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video, started in nineteen ninety seven in Minhill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. 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Also, it's not that it's not to say that the Australian government are free speech absolutists. They are not. Nor does Australia have an equivalent of the First Amendment, which strictly protects free speech even up to the point of incitement. On the contrary, the Australian authorities are among the toughest in the world when it comes to policing speech. Just this past June, Australia barred and Israeli named Hillel Fold from coming into the country. Fuld is a pro israel activist whose brother Ari was stabbed to death by a jihadish terrorist in twenty eighteen. Ari Fold was a hero in his life and in his final moments when taking on the terrorist, he saved many more lives. But the Australian authorities were persuaded that his brother could cause a risk to health, safety or good order in Australia, and so he was barred from entry. Think about that a man whose brother was killed by a terrorist could not enter Australia because he could potentially alert people to the threat of Islami terrorism, which could in itself cause public disorder. Again suicidal empathy. Summer of twenty twenty four. Douglas Murray said he ran into this as well. He got a letter warning him about the terms of his visit. They did grant him the right to speak in Australia, but they made it clear, he says, that if I say anything or was even reported as having said anything, anything at all, which could cause community tensions, which is a supremely vague concept, then he says, I would instantly have my visa revoked and be removed from the country. Now, compare and contrast the Australian model there with Douglas Murray coming in to talk about the October seventh massacre, right to talk about Israel and the war, and they say, if you say anything that causes any kind of community tensions, you're out. Contrast that with these foreign students that are in America chanting and you know, death to the Jews or globalize the Intifada from the river to the sea right, And what do we get in America. We get half the country saying let them speak, let them chant, let them set up their tentive faddas, let them you know, shut down libraries, intimidate students. Maybe, okay, some beatings may occur as well. Vandalism definitely in Australia. They're like, you say anything, you're out. We can't even get rid of that guy. What's his face? Uh Mackmood Khalil. He says this is stand in modern Australia. Yet calls for jihad and intifada and gasing and more have been tolerated and have gone unpunished. During the last two years. Synagogues and other Jewish sites in Australia have been repeatedly assaulted. In December twenty twenty four, so a year ago, a Melbourne synagogue was firebombed. Jewish businesses have been attacked and Jews have been the targets of constant harassment. I saw somebody posted a photo of a sign on a door at a bagel shop I believe in Bondai Beach in Sydney, at the beach there owned by a Jewish family, and they were like, we can no longer guarantee the safety of our employees or customers, and so they closed, like forever they shut down. They have no confidence in the government under which they live. Then this past weekend came the terrorist attack on Bandai Beach in Sydney, it's the most serious terrorist attack in that nation's history. He goes on to say later in this piece, what other group would expect to be treated like this? Right? In twenty nineteen, for example, there was a terrible attack on a mosque in christ Church, New Zealand. Remember that alone, gunman. It was a vicious, appalling attack. Outpourings of sympathy issued from all communities. Imagine for a moment that there had not been. Imagine that immediately after that attack there had been huge crowds of Australians outside the Sydney Opera House calling for Muslims or Arabs to be guessed. Do you think the Australian authorities would have taken that lightly? Does anybody think that if there had been anti Muslim or an Arab demonstrations on the streets every week for two years following that attack, expressly celebrating the attack, calling for it to happen again, do we believe does anybody think the Australian authorities would have stood by or placated that mob. To ask the question is to answer it, of course not. So. Jews are asking, well, where will we be safe? Jews in Australia, New York right. If they're in Israel, they're going to get attacked. If they're outside Israel, they're going to get attacked. He says, the problem has been in plain sight all along. It's shameful that so many people in positions of power decided to metaphorically shoot the messengers while all the time clearing a path for the real life shooters to take aim and fire. Again. That's Douglas Murray's writing at the City Journal citydesh Journal dot org. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. Nestled within the breath taking fourteen thousand acres of the Pisga National Forest, their cabins offer a serene escape in the heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. 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Her district obviously the center of gravity in the massive fraud scandal involving all of these Somalians. Is it Somalians or Somali's I've seen I've seen both, so I think I think the people are called Somalians, but something from Somalia would be Somali. I think that's I think that's what it is. Anyway. So her brother Ahmed Nur said Elmi. I'm gonna call him Elmi from now on, all Right, that's the key here. And apparently this report it's like apparently they tried to extract him out of a gay lifestyle and get him to America or something like. That's part of this story too, But I'm not going to spend any time on that because it doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is whether or not she committed immigration fraud. Johnson says, I started writing about Omar for power Line, the website to which I'm an original contributor, back in August of twenty sixteen, when she defeated twenty two term incumbent and feminist heroine Phyllis Khan in the Democrat Farmer Labor Primary, which is the Democrat party up there for a seat in the Minnesota state Legislature. A reader had directed me to a post on a message board called Somali Spot, which has since been removed from the Internet. It asserted that Omar had married her husband been Ahmed Hersey, the father of her children, that she had married Hersey in two thousand and two, but that she had then married her brother Elmy in two thousand and nine. Her campaign website advertised Hersey as her husband and made no mention of Elmy. Okay, so Elmy's the brother, Hersey's the husband, but Elmy's also kind of the husband here, all right. I checked out the Somali spots story online through the Minnesota official marriage system. Put in her name. I found the two marriage licenses cited in the Somali spot post and checked it. Checked out. The site reflected her two thousand and two marriage to Hersey and the two thousand and nine marriage to Elmy. As it turned out, Hersey and Omar had only applied for a marriage license in two thousand and two but never followed through with a league marriage. Citing the Somali spot post and online marriage information, I contacted Omar's campaign got a response from criminal defense attorney Jean Brandle. I had seen her in court representing one of the six Somali defendants who pleaded guilty in the twenty sixteen ISIS terrorism case. Anyway, the attorney's message was a classic non response response, calling me a bigot, and said I should direct further questions to her rather than the campaign spokesperson that I had originally called. She seemed to think that she could scare me off when I directed my questions to her, as she told me to. She then ignored me. My post on this story slowly generated a huge controversy that the Minnesota Star Tribune eventually covered. I got a call from the reporter, Patrick Kulikin, who told me that he was writing a story. And then the campaign denied that Elmy is elin Omar's brother, and so I asked him, like, who do they say he is? And the reporter said, they won't tell me. They won't tell me about Elmy. The campaign would not make either Omar or her husband available for comment. They sent out a statement saying, your baseless, absurd rumors, let me be clear, they're categorically false. He goes on to say. In twenty nineteen, the state Campaign Finance Board released its investigative file on her twenty sixteen campaign finance violations, and among them were her twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen tax returns that were filed jointly with Hersey whom she had never legally married while she was still legally married to Elmy, the brother. Omar and Elmy's two thousand and nine marriage license, by the way, had been signed by a Christian pastor named Willisia Harris. Why would Ilan Omar, a Muslim, get married by a Christian? In twenty nineteen, a three thousand word page one story in the Minnesota Star Tribune revisited the issue. Their story proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Omar married her brother for some fraudulent purpose. Elmy is Omar's brother. Omar entered the US in nineteen ninety five as a member fraudulently so of the Omar family, which was granted asylum in the US. The rest of Omar's genetic family, the Elmy family, was granted asylum in the United Kingdom. Social media posts throughout the years show Omar and her siblings in both the US and the UK referring to each other and to their father. This is not difficult to track down. The historian Dominic Green looked at the documents and arrived at the same conclusion for a piece at the Spectator. By the way, quick note, there is no statute of limitations on immigration fraud. Just a heads up. Oh and Tom Holman is aware of the story. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support. And this part of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.