Stacey Matthews from RedState on Kimmel and crime (09-24-2025--Hour3)

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You wrote about this over at red state dot com, uh focusing on and I did not pull this audio. I probably should have, but Brendan Jones, the House Majority leader, a Republican giving a fiery speech on the floor. Did you so, were you able to catch comments and speeches by all of the Democrats? I know it ran like, I don't know, over two hours long. I honestly can't make myself watch. I don't blame you, I don't blame you. I did see some snippets, thank goodness, some good people on social media supposed to some snippets. And it just astonishes me that they were people in the house yesterday, in the North Carolina House complaining about rightfully referring to Arena Zarutska's alleged killer as a monster. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just unbelievable to me how we're supposed to show sympathy for this person. I mean, I have sympathy for his family, you know, because obviously this is not something as family, you know, wanted to happen either. But in the in the middle of a debate over excuse me, a bill design uh that speaks to address some of the issues that many feel were the reasons why her alleged killer was on the streets in the first place. I don't think it's the exact moment where we should be talking about how we shouldn't refer to the alleged killer as a monster. It's just, it's just incredibly tone deaf at a time where we're still holding vigils here in Charlotte for for her her death and calling for change. It's just it's just it's inappropriate. It's uh, it's speech policing, right, It's this this effort to control the language so as to control the conversation. You're not allowed to use the word monster. And President Trump called him an animal in all of this, Like so people so like, so this is the thing that you're picking at, Like the fact that people are angry and mad. They they see this guy as a you know, a violent, quote unquote monster. Now are they saying that he's not human. Of course, they're not saying he's not human. They're saying he's a monster because he behaved in a monstrous way. And like, of all the things to pick at, this is what Democrats tried to pick at, which I understand actually because there's not a lot they can pick at. They tried to, you know, make this about different things. In Marsha Maury, the retired judge, she tried to attack, you know, Republicans Christianity, you know, because they weren't showing mercy or something. It's just but I think most telling of all, she tried to defend and deflect away from the actions of the magistrate, saying that, well, she was just following the guidelines that are set up by the district Court, which is controlled by Democrat judges. So it's like, even even. In their attempt to defend this Democrat appointed Democrats magistrate, they still can't get away from the fact that these are their policies and you know this idea that oh, you know, it has to come from the state because she's got another line. I haven't even played this sound by Actually, hang on a second. Do you want to hear this SoundBite from Marshall Morey Let me see it. Well, yeah, all right, so this is yeah, yeah, so this is pretty amazing. She on the one hand, she says this is cut number six. She says that the bail guidelines first come from the districts and that's as it should be. Are we really being tough on crime? Is this your tough on crime response to this number one? We're boasting, Oh, it will end our cashless bail system. No, it doesn't. It may say failure or orders to appear on your own recognizance are not allowed anymore, but unsecured bonds are still allowed. You don't have to put up a dime. They're still unsecured bonds in here. So are you ending a cashless bail system. For violent Yes? No, yes, it doesn't set any bail amounts or suggested guidelines for bails, like your districts have that your superior court judge and your chief district Court judge set for your district. I set ours in Durham million dollar bonds. Is this suggested bond amount for b one felonies? Right? So Durham is the that's the example we're supposed to be emulating. I guess because they've solved the crime problem in Durham, as I understand it. But so she says this like, oh, you didn't. You didn't give us bails. You know, you need to give us some bail guidelines to follow. That's not tough on crime. And then literally thirty seconds later, she says that you are ignoring the separation of the judicial and the legislative by wading into these waters. So she's like, you should set the guidelines, but you shouldn't get involved in the judiciary. They're just nuts. Well is that just just a nutsy? I mean, think about it. What solutions? What what's her answer to what happens? What is her answer to be more tough on crime? And you know in a way that she deems appropriate. What ways are democrats. More mental health funding? That's the mental health funding, that's the default, right, that's the default. Is mental health funding? Great? But that's but you know, mental health funding isn't the only thing work we need to talk about here, Go ahead. Go ahead. There's so many there's so many layers to this piece. You know, it's not just security on the light rail. It's not just mental health funding. It's not just changing sentencing guidelines and so forth. It's the whole Enchilada. Democrats only only want to focus on one aspect of it. And thankfully, I mean this bill would have passed without Democrats support yesterday anyway, but thankfully that were enough. Uh. There were several Democrats from the Charlotte area I believe, who did sign on to the bill yesterday, but it would just just be back and forth arguing among Democrats about, you know, how we should show sympathy for the alleged killer. We should focus more on mental health than than toughening crime laws. It just it just they just don't get it. It's just just there's just this block with a lot of Democrats today where the focus for them needs to be on sympathetic portrayals of the alleged herbs than the actual victim. And this is why, you know, Trump pounces and seazes on issues like this because Democrats are so weak on crimes. And if you continue to see issues like what happened to the Arena Zarutska, and you know, we have had other crimes that have happened all right, rail, you know that that have that have not really been sufficiently addressed. So you know, I'm glad that Republicans and Raleigh kind of seased on this moment, in the momentum that it brought. I'm sorry for the loss of Arenas Zeruscope, but if it brings about change and it makes us have to drag Democrats kicking and screaming into modern times when it comes to how to be stuff on crime, and so be it well. And also I find it interesting that after every mass shooting, Republicans talk about mental health and Democrats always want to talk about gun grabbing, right, and so they seize on they pounce on mass shootings to talk about gun control, and Republicans say, it's a mental health issue. And Democrats never want to have that conversation. But now now they want to have a conversation about mental health services. And look if you and I get it to some degree, because there's nothing else that they can you know, that they can argue. They you know, they made some like sort of procede arguments like oh, we weren't brought in early enough, and oh we weren't asked our opinions on these things, and nothing we wanted to see got done, Like what about changing the light bulbs at the light rail station so it's brighter, and like these were their ideas and they're just not serious because they don't actually want to address these things. I don't believe the reason that they're and the reason that they're not brought in by Republican leaders in the House and Senate and Raleigh is because of people like the people that we heard yesterday complaining about the word monster and talking about light bulbs on the light rail. That's why, that's why we don't want to consult with them, because their ideas are bad, and their ideas are what brought us to this point and. Right, and they derail the actual crafting of the legislation if you try to have you know them in the process and they start going down these paths of let's change light bulbs, it's like, yeah, okay, this isn't this isn't very fruitful. All right. Let me shift gears here And to ask you about because you wrote about this as well, Jimmy Kimmel's return. Did you watch it last night? Were you so excited by his return to the show that very few people are watching anymore? Thankfully so. My colleagues at Red State wrote this morning another thing that I'm just not interested in. I just I just you know, I'm so tired of leftis playing the victims. Over the last month or so, we've seen that a lot. You know, it was the alleged killer, like we just talked about the alleged killer and the Arena Z, the Rutskim murder, who was the real victim, and then and then you know, in the Charlie Kirk assassination. The first few days after that, when we were learning more about the alleged killer's family, you know, he was his family was allegedly is allegedly a Republican family, and the media was kind of going into this direction of Tyler Robinson, the alleged killer was a victim of a mega family. That's kind of the direction that they were going. Well, first they said he was maga, like the initial right, a third of Democrats, one out of three Democrats, I'll believe he was maga. Right, right, he was maga. Then he was the victim of a mega family. And then when everything happened, was Jimmy Kimmel. That Jimmy Kimmel has gotten more coverage and and and what happened to him and his reinstatement or whatever. He's gotten more coverage than from the media and outrage than Charliekirk's fascination. I mean, I haven't done a study on it. I haven't done the deep analysis of it. But it's just they've spent so much time focusing on Jimmy Kimmel over the last week that you almost don't even. You know, well, because they have they have more, they have more solid footing for their morally superior position, Like that's what they think, Like this is where they can and frankly, they needed a pivot. They needed to get off of the Charlie Kirk story because it was so damaging to Democrats in the left and they know it is. That's why when the Kimball suspension happened, that's why they rushed in and made it about freedom of speech and how he's being censored, which is weird because now he's back and like, how would that have happened if the government was censoring him. Yeah, I mean, it's really and I don't know if you caught an eclipse of last night from Kim Will's apparent, Like I said, I watched a few that were included in my colleague Nico Romus Keith, and it's just astonishing to me that he is gaslighting, you know, the people who were critical of his comments. And I never it wasn't my intention to single out a specific group or blame a specific group when that's exactly what he did. And then and then you know, and then and then you notice how he pivoted. Now we're not going to blame a specific group because now we know that this person's ideology, So now we're not going to talk about ideology anymore, it's just going to be he's a deranged individual. And I think what was probably the worst part of what Kimbell said last night was how he referenced Erica kirks amazing moment where she said she would forgive her husband's alleged killer, which was, you know, that was a very powerful moment. Not a lot of people would have been able to say or do that, and he referenced it, you know, in conjunction with the people that were criticizing him, and basically, even though he didn't say the words, it was like, well, she can forgive her husband's you know, alleged killer. These people should be able to forgive me. It's just astonishing chretspa coming from these people. Yeah, they live in a bubble. Stacy Matthews, catch your work at RedState dot com. Always a pleasure, Stacey, take care. We'll talk with you next month. Thank you, Thank you all. I take care at Stacy Matthews aka Sister told you and RedState dot com is the website. So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died, my mom and my dad took care of him as he got worse, Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family. Things are different today because of the work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again Pete's Pack. 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Again, former judge, and she's trying to explain to her Republican colleagues why the magistrate in Mecklenburg County should not be blamed for releasing the murderer of Arena Zarutzka, who was brought in in January of twenty twenty five this year, brought in on a misuse of the nine to one to one system because he had called the police. There was a mental health check. Cops show up, they talked to De Carlos Brown Junior, the murderer, and he's like, you know, people injected me with some man made material and it's it dictates when I eat and what I eat and what I say and all this stuff. So obviously the guys having some mental health crisis, as the left likes to call it. I said crazy, but then that's insensitive, so whatever you want to call it. The cops recognize it and they're like, well, this sounds like a health issue. We are at the hospital already. And he was not happy with that. He's like, I need the cops here, and they're like, well, we are cops and we are already here, and we're telling you this is not a police thing. We cannot find somebody injecting you with some of this material that you claim is controlling you. So what Marshall Morey said that the cops should have done is to initiate an involuntary commitment on this guy. That's what the cops should have done. See, it's the cops fault for not just depriving somebody of their rights without any kind of court official weighing in on the matter. Well, while they were there and the guy, the murderer, became agitated that the cops would not I guess arrest whoever it was that was injecting him with this stuff because there wasn't anybody there and there was no injecting stuff in the first place. He starts nine one one again, so that's what they used to arrest him and bring him into the court system. Which I'm not a lawyer, but I kind of feel like that may have been a good entry point for this guy to get the involuntary commitment against him. And I think that was up to the magistrate. And I think the magistrate should have looked back at the guy's record, which he had fourteen prior arrests, some of them very violent, and he was obviously displaying crazy behavior, and I feel like at that point maybe they could have ordered the psyche val they put him in, could have put him in front of a judge to get the psyche val, but they did not. The magistrate said appear at this court date, and that court date was six or seven months later in July, and he showed up for that. Marsha Moury Stay representative former judge. See, the magistrate did her job, and by the way, she was following the guidelines that the district court draws up for the bail, So she was simply following these guidelines, and then she attacked the Republicans for not recommending guidelines for the magistrates quarter of. A million dollars for sea fellings. I can go through it. I have many county, Waite County, Durham County, Greensboro. If you would like to see or suggested bond amounts. Is there any suggested bond amount for a violent offender in this No, it says a secured bond, so a judge, a judge could give, okay, five hundred dollars. Why didn't we do tough on crime? You want suggested bond amounts? It's certainly not in here. So it does it do anything to identify people who are in a mental health crisis, be for the fact and not after the fact of crime. It does not. Wait a minute, so wait, So I'm unclear. How are we supposed to identify people in the mental health crisis before the crime? In this case? What are you talking about? He was picked up on a misuse of the nine to one to one call. The facts of that case clearly pointed to mental health issues. I'm unclear. But I'm also unclear. Are you advocating, as a member of the Progressive Caucus that you want less discretion from your Democrat judges on the bench. Is that what you're saying that you want the legislative body to mandate bail amounts for every single type of crime and just take it out of the hands of the magistrates and the judges. I accept your offer. Okay, yes, I fine, you want to do that, Fine, let's go ahead and pass the laws and every single codified crime. We're gonna set the bails at the legislative level, and then we can fire all the magistrates or a lot of them, right, because the workload's going to be greatly reduced. We won't need them anymore. Right, isn't that what you're saying? Well, no, not really, you see because then thirty seconds later she objects to the legislature telling the judiciary what to do. Okay, let's have the General send the legislator ignore separation of powers, and we're going to start telling the judiciary what to do. We're going to tell the judiciary time limits on motions for properate relief. We're going to tell the Chief Justice he has new duties and powers. Just see what I mean this is These are different portions of the bill talking about the timeline for death penalty appeals and stuff, and that the magistrates and who oversees them and who can remove them. So on the one, literally thirty seconds after she says that you want to get tough on crime, well, this is how you do it. Get the legislative all up in the business this of judicial discretion. And then thirty seconds later she's like, oh, you're just ignoring separation of the two branches, which, by the way, like there really isn't separation because the lawmakers, it's right there in the name law maker, they make the law, they tell the judiciary what the laws are. There's no interference going on here. The judges are there to administer the law as written by the law makers, the legislative body. She's just all over the place, and she is like like she's. One of the stars of the of the Democrat Party North Carolina. Like it really is amazing. It's kind of embarrassing. Actually, you know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life and art. Stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Mint Hill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. The trusted, talented and dedicated team at Creative Video will go over all of the details with you to create a perfect project. Satisfaction guaranteed. Drop them off in person or mail them. 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It is a debate tactic in order to put you on your heels rhetorically and question the language you're using. And oh, now I'm afraid I'm going to offend. Oh did I say something wrong? It's using it's weaponizing your kindness against you. It's a rhetorical device. And once you see it as that. And I've been doing this long enough to know, people come at me and they make the accusations. And it's why people are like, oh my gosh, Pete, that person called you blah blah blah, and you didn't say anything. I don't have to say anything because I recognize the tactic for what it is. So I don't address it because it's stupid and it's not the point. Right, My point stands. You either address my point, you address my argument on the merits of my argument, or shut up, or you've lost. Right, And I don't play the game. And if you don't play the game, then it doesn't have any power over you. So this was the game she was trying to play and Brandon Johnson you heard the clip during the news he said, yeah, I'm gonna call him a monster. He was a monster, so he's not playing the game. This is from Michelle. She says, I think what we are seeing is called pathological empathy or pathological altruism. It's actually so dangerous in damaging. So many people also like to gaslight and virtue signal who operate under this line, right, It's yes, it's it is a very damaging thing. This pathological empathy, like that you are going to essentially sacrifice yourself, your own body, You sacrifice yourself to the monster in order to signal that you care more. And the monster doesn't care about that. They will use that against you. What is behind the call for supporting light rail perp from the mayor to those in Raleigh, even if they are right there is a dead victim. Well again, it's the same, it's the same thing. It's the signaling that I care. Oh my gosh, where did I remember the first time I encountered this. It was after the murder of two Charlotte Mecklenburg police officers, Jeff Shelton and Sean Clark. They responded to a call there, they couldn't find anybody, there was no call to be had or or anything. So they start leaving and a guy walks up up to them from behind and shoots them both in the head, murders them right there on the scene. And at the first Charlotte City Council meeting after the murders, the late Mayor pro Tem Susan Burgess made a speech and it was about and she asked this. This is almost a verbatim quote from memory because it's stuck and she got dragged for it. Where did we fail. This young man? That's what That's what she was thinking. Where did we fail? See? And when you cannot recognize insanity and evil, these are the things that you ask because there has to be some fix. There has to be some reason for it. There isn't when you're dealing with the insane and you're dealing with evil, There isn't the logical, rational explanation for all. Right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it. Here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.