Southern Poverty Law Center indicted... leftists hardest hit | Hour 1

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And by the way, for people who think that that is why the SPLC got indicted, no, they did not get indicted by a federal grand jury for paying Nazis and clansmen. Okay, and some of those guys with the tiki torches and the khaki pants and the blue shirts with the masks over their face. Right, Remember those guys they load up in a in a U haul and arrive at some protest. They would pile out and they would walk around, and then they would all load back into a U haul, and for some reason, nobody could ever figure out how to follow the vans. But they did not get indicted for paying these extremists. They got indicted for fraud. Because when you solicit camp or political donations, not even political charitable, they're a charity, right, When you solicit charitable donations with the express mission of combating extremists, I feel like it's a bit disingenuous to then fund those very extremists. Justice Department denounces the indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center. It alleges they secretly funneled more than three million dollars in funds to members of white supremacist and extremist groups. A million dollars plus to the National Alliance affiliate Aryan Nations affiliate. They got like three hundred k Unite the Right member got two hundred seventy thousand. Former National Alliance chairman picked up one hundred and forty thousand. Former Klansman seventy three thousand just doesn't pay what it used to. I guess American Front president and a felon he got nineteen thousand. Christopher Rufo, conservative activist guy. He said the supply of right wing hate was so low that a left wing anti hate group had to subsidize it so it could then raise money to fight it. This is Thomas Sole's life support theory in action. Ten out of ten work guys, Thomas Sole is attributed to saying racism is not dead, but it is on life support, kept alive by politicians, race hustlers, and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as racists. Rufo says the SPLC was simultaneously funding violent extremists, raising money to fight those extremists, and advising law enforcement on how to arrest those extremists. Insane corruption. This from the Associated Press. The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted on federal fraud charges, alleging it properly raised millions of dollars to secretly pay leaders of the KKK and other hate groups for inside information. This is according to Acting Attorney General Todd blanche I do have his remarks that he made at a press conference yesterday today. A few minutes ago, in the Middle District of Alabama, a grand jury returned an eleven count indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with six counts of wirefraud, four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering. According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a nonprofit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups. As the indictment describes, the SPLC was not dis mantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred. The indictment describes as conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was paying a member of the leadership group that planned the Unite the Right protests in Charlottesville, Virginia in twenty seventeen that resulted in the death of one person and injured dozens more. This particular person being paid by the SPLC allegedly received approximately two hundred and seventy thousand dollars over the course of eight years. In total, according to the indictment, between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty three, SPLC paid at least three million dollars to eight individuals. At least these individuals were affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan, United Clans of America, National Socialist Movement, Arean Nations Affiliated Sadistic Soul's Motorcycle Club, the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, Nazis, and the American Front. Now, as the endictment lays out, after SBLC paid members of these extremist groups, it created work product that reported on these activities that the members participated in or contributed to. And to that end, it was doing the exact opposite of what it's told its donors it was doing. Right, So there's your fraud. Then when you set up shell companies to funnel the money through so there's no trace that it's coming from the SPLC, and you create companies called the Center Investigative Agency with a CIA, Fox Photography, Northwest Technologies, Tech Writers Group, and Rare Books Warehouse from the indictment to secretly funnel donated money to the FS. They call them f's. I don't know, I don't remember why they came up with that, but they've got like F thirty seven, F thirty nine, So I assume that they're that they're numbering these these people on the payroll under this you know, this pseudonym F one, F two, F three, whatever. And if they're at number thirty nine, they've been doing this for a while, because this was only over the last ten years. So the individuals at the SPLC, including a person who would become the chief financial officer and a person who would become the director of the Intelligence Project, among others, opened a series of bank accounts at two different banks in the name of various fictitious entities. These entities were never incorporated and had no employees and conducted no actual business. And see that's a problem. Also there's where you get your money laundering and your bank fraud, because in order to open up a bank account for a for an entity, right it has to be a legitimate entity, and it wasn't. And so they lied to the banks. Beginning in or about twenty fourteen and continuing through at least twenty twenty three, Southern Poverty Law Center devised and intended to devise a scheme and artifice to defraud donors and attempted to do so and to obtain money and property belonging to donors by materially false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, promises, and omissions. The objective of the scheme and artifice was to obtain money via donations without telling them what the donated funds would be used for. To carry out this scheme and artifice, SPLC explicitly sought donations on the auspices that donor money would be used to help dismantle violent extremist groups. In their solicitations, the donors were not told that some of the donated funds were to be used to pay high level leaders of these groups and others. Nor were the donors ever told that some of the donated funds were used for the benefit of the extremist groups, or that some of the donated funds would be used in the commission of state and federal crimes. Yeah, that's a slight problem for the SBLC, and I'll tell you it couldn't happen to a nicer organization. These I am sarcastic like the These guys are awful. They have a hit list on their website of conservatives telling you names and where they live. Why would you do that? You know? Stories are powerful. 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Prosecutors alleged some of the money was used by extremists to carry out other crimes, but court papers did not include specific examples. That the Civil Rights Group faces charges of wirefraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The case is brought in federal court in Alabama, where the organization is based. So they used these informants and that's, by the way, one of the that's one of the lines that you will hear. It's already started. I think USA Today had an opinion piece or write up about it, saying, you know, well, look, the law enforcement uses paid informants all the time. Okay, SPLC is not a law enforcement group. Number one, right, number two. They're soliciting donations in an effort to dismantle extremism. And I would suspect that George Clooney, who gave a million dollars to the SPLC right after the Charlottesville attack, I would suspect he's not going to be too happy to find out that his money was being pumped into extremist groups pockets. So these informants, they call them f's. I don't know why you mentioned or Todd Blanche mentioned one of them, F thirty seven, who was He was a member of the online leadership chat group that planned the Unite the Right event in Charlottesville, and he attended the event at the direction of the SPLC, and between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty three, the SPLC paid him two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Then there's F nine, affiliated with the neo Nazi organization the National Alliance and served as an f for the SPLC for more than twenty years, and over that time he was able to accrue over a million dollars from the SPLC. This guy F nine also entered the headquarters of a violent extremist group and stole twenty five boxes of their documents. F nine coordinated payment for the copying of the materials with a high level SPLC employee who had knowledge the documents were stolen. The original stolen materials were returned to the violent extremist group in a second illegal entry by F nine. Thereafter, the high level SPLC employee utilized the documents in part as the basis for a story that was published on the SPLC's hate Watch website. Another F this was F thirty nine, was then blamed for the theft and was paid about six grand by the SPLC to falsely take responsibility for the theft. Then there is F unknown. Don't know this guy's number, so F so, I guess it would just be F. Okay, I'm not going to say that F unknown. We'll just say that this was the Imperial Wizard of the United Clans of America. The SBLC described the group as a millennial reboot of what was once a serious domestic threat. In its prime, the United Clans of America was responsible for, among other things, the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama, which resulted in the deaths of four little girls in nineteen sixty three. That's a f unknown. I'm sure some of these people are they're going to be able to Like, if you're in any of these groups, Like, I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to figure out who they're talking about. The Imperial Wizard of the United Clans of America, Like, you don't have to give us his name, but I'm sure people know his name by now. F twenty seven an officer in the National Socialist Movement and the Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Soul's Motorcycle Club. This guy pulled in This is f twenty seven. He got three hundred thousand dollars over the course of six years. F. Forty two was the former chairman of the National Alliance. The SPLC website actually has a whole page devoted to him, an extremist file about this guy, and over seven years SPLC secretly paid F forty two over one hundred and forty thousand dollars. F thirty led the National Socialist Party of America. The nazis former director of a faction of the Aryan Nations and a former member of the q Klux Klan. The SPLC website contained an extremist file on him while paying him seventy thousand dollars. F forty three, National president of American Front, a convicted felon for his participation in a cross burning. Over the course of three years, he pulled in nineteen thousand dollars. F Unknown, a member of the Klan married to an exalted cyclops of the Klan. F Unknown and their spouse were involved in litigation whereby the Klan applied to take part in the adopt a Highway. You remember that litigation. During the course of the litigation, known payments were traced from the SPLC to the unknown thirty five hundred dollars. So the SPLC is sending money to the participant in litigation that the Klan is trying to win in order to get an adopt a highway so they could get the sign like they weren't interested in doing the trash pickup per se they wanted to sign adopt a highway this you know this road adopted by the q klux claim. In addition to directly paying leaders and others associated with the same violent extremist groups that the SPLC sought donations ostensibly to dismantle, the SPLC also used f's to indirectly funnel money to other violent extremist group leaders. This included the SPLC funneling more than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars from a fictitious entity to F eleven, who then sent funds to their violent extremist group leaders, including the former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the k k K. This doesn't look good for the Southern Poverty Law Center, but honestly, like it is, it is pretty amazing that they could do this for as long as that they as long as they did it. Let's see here, dude, I'm looking at some of the This is from a FOYA fan. This indictment against the SPLC for funding white supremacists is amazing. They even funded a guy who helped arrange the infamous Charlottesville Unite the Right rally. And yes, I've seen similar comments about you know that racism is in such short supply that the left has to pay for it. Bonchie, a writer over at RedState dot com, said the SPLC is a left wing behemoth. It has been a source of authority for Democrats and their press allies for decades. It's been cited by presidents and claimed to be infallible. And that's why they are all freaking out right now. It's that big of an asset to them, right. You'll recall it was the Charlottesville protest and then the ramming of the you know by the racist guy ran into a crowd of people killed Heather Higher, and that was remembered that that was Joe Biden's origin story. Well, okay, not origin story, but it was. That was the reason he said that, you know right, he had to get into the race. And he kept repeating the lie, the very fine people on both sides lie that the left still believes to this day that Donald Trump was not talking about the people that came to protest the tearing down of the statue, but rather he was saying it was the very fine people with the tiki torches. When he literally says there are two groups of people, the one group with the tiki torches. They should be condemned totally. I condemned them totally. But then there was the other people that were there just protesting the night before. They were there because they were mad about the roberty Lea statue coming down. Those are the people, he said. They were fine people on both sides in that demonstration and the counter demonstration. But this was the story Joe Biden used to run again. Let me go to some of the texts here. Dave, Well, Dave, always a kind word from Dave. He's going to play the what aboutism game here. I know it's not something you want to hear. Over eighty five percent of the Nazi Party and white supremacist identify as Republican. So I would want to see your I'd want to see your data on that one, Dave. So if you can send me where you're pulling that information from, and it can't be from the SPLC, which is really going to hamstring you. Now you know this is a problem for the left. They cite the SPLC for all of these data points, all their evidence. It's always from the SPLC, And people on the right have been pointing out that the SPLC has been hot garbage for decades now. It is simply a left wing outfit that smears conservatives. Prager, you is listed as an extremist. Oh you know who else was put on their extremist watch list? Charlie Kirk and TPUSA about four months before a furry murdered Charlie Kirk. Right. Oh and by the way, I do have something here on that. Let's see it was, yeah, from Tony Saruga. Charlie Kirk was assassinated September tenth, twenty twenty five, Roughly four months earlier, the Southern Poverty Law Center released its Year in Hate and Extremism twenty twenty four report, which included dedicated case studies labeling TPUSA a well funded hard right organization with links to hard right extremists that promote a white dominated, male supremacist Christian social order, and that they exploit fears. TPUSA was featured in the context of their hate extremism tracking, their interactive hate map, and Charlie Kirk publicly dismissed the SPLC as a laughing stock for the designation at the time. And guess what groups hung on SPLC's every word, especially their hate map. How about the John Brown Gun Club, the Socialist Rifle Association, Redneck Revolt, Armed Queers Salt Lake City. Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs were enow by that group's founder, Ermia Fanna. I think is how she pronounces that who is not only a radical trans leftist but was born in Tehran with ties to radical Jihadis there's your connection, there's your through line, Scott says Pete. I guess it's true. The demand for racism in America greatly outnumbers the supply. Let me jump over, I'll get Bob on here. Hello, Bob, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks Pete. I always enjoy your show. Thanks, sir man. You were talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center and I had to give you a call. I years ago, I worked in radio, but this is back in Florida and a friend of mine who was excuse me, was studying law, actually went to work for those guys in Alabama. And I was from Pascola. But anyway, he was there for maybe four or five years, and he confided in me one night. He says, I got to get out of here, and I said, what's going on? And he didn't tell me A whole lot of information. But he said that, you know, they were just doing things he couldn't agree with. And this guy was pretty liberal. But I guess the main thing, do you think he knew about this? Do you do you now suspect that he may have caught a whiff of this these payments? Well, I definitely think that he caught a whiff of something. Now what it was, he wouldn't elaborate, he wouldn't tell me, but obviously, and he was a pretty you know, pretty square guy, i'll call him, you know, he you know, stand up guy kind of thing, and so obviously he saw something in there that wasn't right. I don't know if it was this or what. But but you know, end of the day, I guess what really conserves me. And by the way, I lean a little more conservative, but you know, I I just you know, I'm a voice scout. I guess I just want people to do things right either side. And it just bothers me because you know, we hear about these kind of things, the fraud, the misconduct or misappropriation whatever. We hear about it a whole lot, especially with social media today, but we don't hear about anything getting done. I don't know they're under indictment right now. I mean they got indicted. Well yeah, well okay, that's a great step, right. I don't know. I just wonder, you know, end of the day is you know, is somebody gonna pay for what they've done and somebody gonna get punished. I don't know. I hope so, I mean I kind of but I don't care who you are, left or right. Yeah, if you're doing wrong, you should pay for it. Yeah, no, I agree, you should be held accountable. Yeah. If they go to court and they get a jury to uh to convict, then absolutely, I mean, and that's and that's what it's going to come down to. But yeah, I mean there are indictments now and they're charging people, so that's the first step, right, Yeah, Bob, I appreciate the call, buddy, Thank you. This from commentator she goes by insurrection Barbie. I don't know why. Two weeks after the Unite the Right rally occurred, SPLC raked in a million dollars from George and Amal Clooney. Tim Cook from Apple also another million dollar donor, JP Morgan Chase gave half a million. MGN Resorts gave a million. The SPLC went from sixty five million in donations to one hundred and thirty million in donations. And here's the thing too, the SPLC's hate map got hardwired into corporate America Amazon's Smile program. They used the SPLC lists to exclude charities PayPal, GoFundMe, Patreon, Airbnb, event Bright, MasterCard, Visa Right. They used the SPLC classifications to deplatform people and organizations. They went after the federalist dot Com. Bezos from Amazon later admitted to Congress that Amazon's reliance on SPLC was quote an imperfect system and that he would like a better source. But we used it, but we still used it, and we punished people based on an SPLC rating seven oh four number says Yeah, Biden told us the number one threat to the American people was white supremacy. Yeah. See, this entire industry and this ideology is built on the SPLC's work. That's why this is so bad for the left today. And they will want to talk about a whole bunch of other things other than this. Let me go back over to Oh mouse, don't die on me now, Oh my god, Oh he's alive. Okay, mouse is back, Corey says, I find it absolutely fascinating that the Atlantic just happened to clog the media with the hit piece on cash Betel the same week the SPLC story comes out. Yeah, I have no idea if that's related or not. It was a total hit job. He's now suing them, so we shall see what happens with that. Ian says first heard of SPLC on sixty minutes. Wait a minute, okay, three different messages from Ian as the offspring of a white man and a black woman, was hoping you would discuss this. They and their the SPLC and their ILK are a racist mafia, doing all they can to keep us at each other's throats. I'm fed up with their faux outrage. I first heard of them on sixty minutes back in the eighties when public racism was finally challenged and I was in favor. Now that any expression of racism is rightfully taboo, people like the SBLC look for boogeymen where they ain't to the detriment of public discourse. Only hope the case against them is ironclad, no brainer. With all of the catterwalling, we will hear from the left, well, again, this is a financial crime, so they literally have the receipts, right, I mean what the money was used for is sort of immaterial to the case, to the evidence, right, I mean it is material in the fraud in that you're saying we are dismantling extremism and then funding extremism. So for that part, yes, but it is a matter of we made these claims, we did something different, and then we created fake shell companies and paid people in service of that scheme. Right. So yeah, just here the here are the stubs right here, the the checks, the bank account transfers, it's all there, seven oh four numbers. Says isn't this like a firefighter setting fires so they can fight more fires? This is crazy. Yes, it does seem a lot like that. Let me see here. Okay, that's very that's not from now, Stanley says. Are we to assume that the SPLC is the only so called civil rights group to be playing this game? Don't know? Don't know? David says, do you have any information on whether or not the I R S is looking into these individuals receiving all this money to see if they paid their taxes? The FS? Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, did they declare this as income, Joseph says, So you're telling me that I've been an online extremist all these years for free. That's yeah, Like, who knew you could get paid by the SPLC? Right? Do you think this is a good start towards January sixth resolute result? I don't know what that is. Clarity maybe, yeah, I don't know. But obviously if you're paying all the well I take it back because I think they the the indictment only goes back ten years and it runs through I think twenty twenty three. Oh yeah, so that would coverage Yeah, that would cover J six. So they very well may have had people in those groups that then went to the Capitol. The SBLC could have fingerprints on J six. Wouldn't that be a twist? Jim says. In twenty thirteen, I was assigned as a supervisor to the Suffolk County Police Hate Crimes Units. That's where I'm from, Suffolk County. I needed to increase my knowledge in this area. I read reports and studies by SPLC. It became quickly apparent they were not a reliable source of information. Their reports labeled Free Speech, Fox, Rush, Limbaugh and other groups as hate groups. Our stats were constantly questioned by the DOJ for accuracy. No one was checking them. Yeah, they SBLC, you know, had all these partnerships with law enforcement. They would issue these reports, and you know, governments would rely on the SPLC. And people on the right were saying, guys, this is nuts. They're they're basically media matters. That's from the other day. Allen says, I'm pretty sure the Biden origin story is genesis boom roasted. Steven says, it is said that there are people in this world that would rather support racism while claiming to denounce it, as long as it makes them money off other people's misery, right, And so what they're saying, what the SPLC is saying, like, you know, we did all of this, We committed all the fraud because we had to, you know, try to protect the safety of our informants. Well no, you don't, No, you don't, Like you could have you could have done a line item or something now and then paypaled them or venmoed them or something, give them cash, right, and then you keep it on your books as you know, payments for sourcing or something like that, or investigator investigations. But you went out and created fake businesses, and then you got bank accounts for those fake businesses illegal. Craig says, yeah. But yeah, but Orange Man bad. Yeah, that's really the that's the real story here. Actually, Republicans, you better be careful that you don't overreach on this. We hear this all the time too. After some lefties get caught in some scandal. You know, there's always this warning from the media, who is you know, very interested in you know, giving good advice to the to the Republicans and conservatives, which is, you got to be careful not to overreach. Don't overreach on this. In other words, shut up right, stop paying attention to this story. That makes our team look bad. Seth says, kind of crazy. All the liberal Democrats thought we were racist Nazis, and all along they were making donations to the KKK. Look who's the racist now, Democrats. Let's see here. Carol Markowitz points out from The New York Post a reminder that in twenty twenty two, the SPLC worked with PayPal to decide which extreme groups to remove from PayPal's service, all the while funding actual extreme groups. Hakeem Jeffries, House minority leader, the so called indictment. It's not so called, it's an actual indictment from a grand jury said, it's baseless and illegitimate. These partisan hacks who continue to weaponize the criminal justice system against perceived opponents will never intimidate us. So, in other words, as Bonchi at Red State says, you should be able to fraudulently pay for false flag extremism to boost your political fortunes and then use shell companies to hide it. Like that's that's what your position is. 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