Somali frauding uncovered by a YouTuber in Minnesota (12-29-2025--Hour2)

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Melissa says, yes, your immune system often dips on vacation due to what's called the letdown effect, where stress hormones decrease, making you vulnerable to new germs and existing viruses after a high stress period. Well, I mean it's not like high stress on it. It's not like I went through like two and a half straight months of events and election coverage. No, actually, that does make sense. People keep spamming me with this stuff about Andy Griffin. Look again, I'm just telling you what the experts told all of the listeners of WBT, like twenty years ago. They went into great length, covered lots of the episodes, like there was the crossover episode with the Dukes of Hazzard, like that was a classic. Spires and Krantz the Afternoon Morning or sorry Afternoon Drive team here, like, they talked a lot about Andy Griffin. They were experts on it. They knew all the episodes, like when Opie got busted for smoking crack behind the barn, like all of the episodes. So Russ says, it's funny how people who don't know about Chet or Tricksie cannot handle Andy Griffin references. By the way, that was another thing that Spiers and Krantz would allow callers to do. If you didn't want to give your real name when you called in, you could you could use the name Chet or Trixie, and that was the well. If you were a dude, you used Chet. They were different times. But dudes used chet and the gals used tricksye, so they were a comedy duo. Also, they were the ones that first introduced me to the hit classic Christmas tune Sammy the Christmas Snake. So all right, one of the other stories, because I said, even though I was near death, I did keep up with the news. And so one of the stories that I saw move across the social media actually not really at all in the legacy media. And maybe they were all on vacation or fighting, you know, a flu like I was. So maybe they just haven't gotten around to covering it yet. That's possible. It's possible, But it was sort of an add on story. I've talked about this before. We say, in the in the media biz, in the news biz, if a story has legs, it means that you do the first story, the initial story, but then the story can continue to move through multiple news cycles for days or weeks or months or even years. Right, So that story has legs. And so this story about the obvious massive fraud that has occurred up in Minnesota, this story has legs. So you'll recall, before I was nearly murdered by the flu, before I went out on vacation. Last week, we had covered the story, the initial bombshell of the story, which was widely covered by legacy outlets, mainly because the US Attorney, the first Assistant US Attorney, Joe Thompson, held a press conference and denounced, you know, a whole bunch of charges and an investigation and all this stuff into at least nine billion dollars that was billed across fourteen medicaid services in Minnesota that may be fraudulent. Nine billion dollars okay. According to Thompson, fourteen medicaid services under audit and deemed to be high risk for fraud have cost the state eighteen billion dollars since two thousand and eight. Team Thompson said that a substantial amount of money build across those programs is fraudulent, but the exact amount is still under investigation. He said, I don't make these generalizations in a hasty way. When I say significant amount, I'm talking on the order of half or more of the eighteen billion. That's where we get the nine billion figure from, he said. But we'll see. When I look at the claims data and the providers, I see more red flags than I see legitimate providers. Thompson said, the scale of fraud outpaces that of other states and put services at risk for people who really need them. And I will make this point once again as I made over a week ago, which is that you would think that the people who advocate for these programs, who want more government funding for programs and services to help people, you would think that they would be the biggest hawks when it comes to spending, that they would be the ones watching every penny. Well, we can't watch pennies anymore because they discontinued those, but watching every nickel and dime and quarter and dollar, right, they would be watching to make sure that there is no waste, fraud or abuse, because every dollar that is lost to waste, fraud or abuse is a dollar that is not going to help the people, which was the whole reason why you spent all that political capital theoretically to get these programs put in place. Right, But for some reason, it does seem like the biggest advocates for the spending and the programs and the services don't ever seem to care about all the waste and fraud and abuse. I'm just pointing that out. Just it doesn't seem like there's a lot of energy from the proponents of these programs. Back to the CBS news story. While prosecutors typically see fraud manifest as providers over billing for their services, Thompson said during this news conference that companies have been created to provide no services at all, and then they just pocket the federal funds and use it for things like international travel, luxury vehicles, and lavish lifestyles. Like why bother even like going through the hassle of creating and providing a service at all if you don't have to write the magnitude cannot be overstated. He said, what we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad actors committing crimes. It's staggering industrial scale fraud. Okay, keep that in mind, industrial scale fraud. I would submit that in the latest revelation that's related to this story, the story that has legs right, the next leg in the story is another piece of evidence of the industrial scale fraud. There is a template, there's a model. It's like a factory. You figure out how to make the thing, and then you just keep churning them out. You just keep making these fake businesses. You keep applying for the fake or the real grants for your fake company, and you just keep siphoning off more and more money. And once that template works, you just replicate the template, and you just keep doing it over and over and over again, and you find all different services and programs to go into. So this is about mediciate fraud. Just medicate. That's what his announcement was about. Medicaid. More than ninety percent of the people charged in the major fraud cases announced before this press conference. So again, ninety percent of the people that have been charged, and we're talking dozens so far, ninety percent of them are Somali. They're from Somalia. Governor Tim Walls, he of the Jazz Hands, the very manly vice presidential candidate. He denounced President Trump's comments about all of this, saying that an audit do for completion by late next month should give a better picture on the extent of the fraud. He said his administration is taking aggressive action to prevent fraud in the future. Okay, enter onto the scene. One Nick Shirley, a twenty three year old YouTuber with one microphone, a camera guy, and two security staffers and some random researcher who apparently reached out to Nick Shirley with a whole bunch of research that prompted Nick and his CA guy with their two security guys in tow to go pay a visit to several service providers. Scratch that, not really sure they're service providers. All right, Holiday football has arrived. Right With Draft Kings sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL, the unexpected can turn game day into payday, and don't forget Draft Kings as your back with early exit pretty neat function here. 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Minimum mods required for additional terms and responsible gaming resources see DKG dot co slash audio limited time offer. So Nick Shirley, independent journalist YouTuber guys twenty three years old. I was talking with producer Burnie before the program today about you know, is he a journalist or not? Like, a journalist doesn't really have a definition. It could be anything like, really, you know, you can get credentials that say I went to a school, I mean I did. I graduated with a degree in mass communication broadcast although you would never know it. But does that make me a journalist? If I go to work in a newsroom as I did here at WBT, and I go out, I cover meetings and that sort of thing, does that make me the journalist? What if I had never gone to college but I was still doing the same kind of work, But I still be a journalist, right? So it like I count all journalists as sort of the same, because it's just sort of a it's a tag, and there are good journalists and ethical ones, and then there are propagandists that are masquerading as honest journalists. Right anyway, So this guy is twenty three years old, he's unpolished. I watched the video. He put out, a forty two minute video from his tour of dozens of places that claim to be daycares, adult daycares, and there were even some transportation companies that don't seem to actually be legitimate businesses. And he did what journalists do, which is to document via video, right, his attempts to enroll I believe a fictitional Joey Jr. In the daycares. So at the beginning of the video, Nick Shirley introduces a man named David, who he says did the research. David lives in Minneapolis, and David has been doing the research into all of these daycares, these home healthcare providers and transportation companies. How I got involved is that where my office is here in Minneapolis, I'm sort of in the heart of all of this fraud, and I would see these childcare centers. I said, well, there are any kids there. It's the middle of the day and all I see are a couple of guys standing out front smoking. And then I'd go buy another daycare and I'd see the same thing. I said, well, where do these kids playing? So I started to go online and look and I said, this place is licensed for eighty children. They had zero children. Every time I went by there, they never had a single child there. Then I started to see all these transportation companies going around and it was always a Somali driver and I said, well, that's great, they're out there transportation contributing, but they never had a passenger, never ever once. And I said, well, what is all this transportation? What are they doing? So then I found out that in Minnesota they have something called non emergency medical transportation, so this is going to the dentist's office, therapy, whatever it might be. And I said, well, how many of these companies are there? And the research came back that there are oney twenty of them and more than eight hundred of them are Somalioned. Nobody from the state of Minnesota ever cross checks to see if any rides were ever actually provided. All they did was write the check. See so that sounds like a problem. I mean, okay, over one thousand transportation companies and eight hundred of them are Somali owned. Again, industrial scale fraud. When you find a template, a way to commit the fraud, then you replicate that over and over and over and over and over again, and you get different people. In this Somali community, which is very closed, tight knit, right don't They don't talk to outsiders, they don't assimilate into the general population, and so they obviously have struck upon a get rich quick scheme and they're replicating it. And by the way, this is not I mean, aside from the fraudulent nature of it, but the idea that you would replicate a model that generates revenue and wealth for your community, this is not This is not a new concept people. I remember I've told this story before. Many years ago. I went down for a ribbon cutting of a new hotel or motel in rock Hill. I was working at the local radio station down in rock Hill, and it was a chamber event and they were celebrating the opening of this new motel and I interviewed the owner and he talked to me. He was from India, and he talked about how he got started in the business, and he spelled it all out for me. And there's nothing illegal about what he and his family did, which was back home in India, they all gathered their money and they give it to one person who comes over to America legally. They then open a business and they then are able to bring over through our immigration laws, are able to bring people of their family over. They put them to work in the motel that generates wealth. They then bring somebody else over or they give the money to somebody in their family that's already here and they open another motel. That's how you build generational wealth for that family. And that is a It's a model that is used all over America and by immigrant populations for probably what two hundred years. I got no problem with that. So the Somalians, Simolians, Somalis, they have obviously figured out a bit of a different twist to be sure. Now, this researcher, Guy David, he had a couple of theories as to why this sort of thing has exploded in Minnesota. What has happened is that the Somali community is a very closed community. They will not speak to anyone outside the community and talk about what's going on within the community. They vote as a block, and so when you're a politician, you're saying, look, I've got one hundred thousand people in Minnesota that if I do something for the community, they're going to vote for me. And that's what it's all about, is getting the votes. And then the people here in Minnesota here this term Minnesota, and I I'm so sick of that term. The people here are so afraid of being called a racist or an Islamophobe, and they're just they're afraid of their own shadow. And I don't understand this is our future generations are going to have to pay for all this fraud, and they just want to bury their heads in the sand and go on and just not worry about it. So two of the things that he said there that the Somali community has closed, they don't speak to outsiders, and that a lot of the Native Minnesotans are afraid of being called racist. Ironically or maybe not ironically, to prove the point, I guess both of those things occurred in the video. When Nick Shirley went to these places, he was yelled at, they refused to speak to him. Those that would actually open a door or come that would come across his path, refuse to talk to him about any of it. Nobody knew anything, and then one woman called them a racist. Basically, so like the very things that David said would occur did occur, because it has been occurring. This is how they inoculate themselves against any kind of criticism or examination or investigation. Apparently, you know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. 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I made a comment in the last segment about this guy, Nick Shirley. He's twenty three years old, he's a YouTuber. He is being identified as an investigative journalist, which is fine. I don't have any problem with that he is, and I said he's unpolished. I don't mean that as a smear against him, but like, there are some things that I saw in the video that I thought if he had some training in how to do these types of interviews, it might it might have yielded some other results. For example, he goes up to one of these daycares and he actually gets somebody to answer the door, and he says he wants to enroll his child child there, Joey Junior or whatever, little Joey or something, and can he get some information, can he come and take a look? And they're like no, no, no, And he's like, well, where why are there no kids here? Keeping This is a question He keeps asking at all of the places, where are the kids? Where are the kids? And I believe they are a future but that's just me. But the person at the door, this woman at the door, in answer to the question, says they're not coming until two o'clock. The next crowd comes at two. And so what I would have done, I say, okay, all right, thank you very much, I appreciate it. Then I would have gone out, sat in my car and waited until two o'clock and watched to see if any kids actually do get dropped off at the daycare, right, because that would confirm that there are no kids at the daycare. Now, look, I would be shocked if there are actually kids, hundreds of kids at all of these daycares that he visited that have been listed in the report. I don't think there are. I think it's a it's a fraud. That's my initial assessment of what I saw him doing. And it's not just daycares either. It's these home healthcare services that supposedly send healthcare workers into people's homes or something, and these transportation companies and when you go when you see the storefronts, these are places that are like you've in one of the buildings that he visited, there's like fourteen businesses, these home healthcare services or providers operating out of one building. And the building is an industrial warehouse. Right, It's the kind of place that commercial industrial warehousing type of companies they'll rent or lease space, you know, in a larger complex. And you walk down these you know, concrete hallways and there are you know, a dozen doors, and all of the doors are for the same kind of business, which that like, that's usually not a good practice to set your practice up next to a dozen other practices of the very same kind. You know, that's probably not a good idea. Unless you're Starbucks. That's probably not a great idea. Probably want to be someplace else, go to a different part of town, service a different clientele, rather than trying to compete for a very small pool, unless, of course there are no actual customers. Right. But this is part of what makes somebody a journalist is that you actually go and you lay eyes on something. You don't just hang out in the newsroom reading social media, making a couple of phone calls and then pounding out a story for the blog. Right. It's a different kind of journalism, which this kid was engaged in. I say, kid, he's twenty three, and he's been doing it for a while. He's been he has he's been running these types of videos for a couple of years now. So let me jump over here and get Craig on the program. Hello Craig, and Hello Craig. Hey. Yeah, I don't see how anybody can see this anything other than just wholesale taxpayer money laundering for Democrat votes. It does appear to be what it is. Yes, yeah, And I mean that's the way I see. That's pretty much what most welfare programs are, and ever since LBJ have been designed for that trict purpose. Well, Milton Friedman talked about this in that they were very He said the only welfare program that he could identify as actually being for the poor was food stamps. Everything else was basically a redistribution of wealth from taxpayers to create a sort of to the middle class, bureaucratic class. The administrators of these programs. Yeah, they so they have a lot of and a lot of this money that's donated or given us on for a program doesn't actually even make it to the end recipient. It just makes it to the large bureaucratic class of people who just sit on their but all day, play with owner emails. Well, so, right, so you've got the administration. They take a cut of the taxpayer funding obviously, right, they get paid their salaries to dole out the money. And in the past, it was predominantly you know, government programs, right, actually housed inside the government, and that was a way for you to hire a bunch of people that would then vote for you. Then you could give them raises, they would give you more money, you could win reelection, raise more money. That sort of cycle, right, that money laundering kind of cycle. With the advent probably about twenty twenty five thirty years ago, with a lot of the public private partnerships where look, government can't do these programs as well as the private sector, so let's let's do block grants to nonprofits. And when we started seeing a lot more of that occur. Now you've got a new model. Well, you've got a variation of that old model where we're not going to actually hire government workers. We're just going to use the NGOs at the international level or the nonprofits at the national level. We're going to use these nonprofits to basically run the same cycle, and the Somali's figured it out right, like they say, well, if you're going to run these programs, then we're gonna take advantage of them. Oh. I don't expect anybody to face any punishment over this because it's been operating the way it was intended to do. So, I don't know. They might, you know, throw some low level hourly worker under the bus, but I don't expect anything to change. Yeah, I think that if you well, I mean, remember now you've got the Trump administration's US attorneys that are investigating. The FBI says they are aware of Nick Shirley's report and they're investigating. So you may see a bunch of the providers get taken out. You may see. I think I just saw actually, you know, immigration Enforcement action targeting some of these owners and providers and stuff. But right to your point about like the elected leadership, what did they know, what role did they play in this stuff? I'm not confident that any of them will ever face any kind of punishment, and that's unfortunate because it destroys credibility and trust in the system. Craig, I appreciate the call, you know, I don't want to be all blackpilled about this. We just learned about these things. And you know, the US Attorney's only been in there for what nine months or so ten months at the most, so they obviously have been investigating. They, like I said, mentioned earlier about the arrest, they made the announcement they made two weeks ago about the medicaid fraud. So this is just part and parcel of that. So I got to believe that they will continue to chase down all of the leads. Now media can help, and I know, like I think there's one local maybe two local stations up there that have done stories. They have done reporting on some of the fraud over the last few years. This is not a new issue. It's just now coming to light on the national stage, which is really really weird. Because the guy who was in charge of the state was just the vice presidential candidate. You would have thought that maybe some reporters might have started digging around into some of these stories that were already out there about this kind of fraud. I did get a message here from the Hellion who says, too many dependent on the system, and they have all the gatekeepers the media you can run with frauding. I think it works. Frauding I like it. The term is frauding. And then I saw somebody said, it would be interesting, this is Rodney. It would be interesting if any of these so called learning centers. No, no, Rodney, they're not learning centers. They're leering centers. I mean, that's what the sign said above one of the the leering centers. It's a daycare, after school programs and such to help kids get educated. And it says it right there l EA R I NG it's a leering center. It's right on the sign. And if you can't trust those people to educate your kid, I don't know who you can trust. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too. And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground dot news slash pete I put the link in the podcast description too. I started using ground News a few months ago and more recently chose to work with them as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the left and the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground dot news slash Pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. And let's talk to Jerry. Welcome to the program. Hello Jerry. Hey Pete. Almost happy in a year. I hope you're feeling better even better? Yes, I am feeling much better than I did last week. Yes, thank you. Good. Hey. Something that occurred to me because you know, from the New York area, and we always hear about like Rico this and Rico that. Wouldn't this fall under the Rico statute. It's organized, it's been replicated, it's a so broad as documented. I that was just a thought I. Hadn't and yeah it could. I mean I don't know all of the all of the statutes regarding RICO and how they apply and how they can be used, but it would not I mean, my first assumption would be, I'm sure that, depending on the scale and the people involved and whether there was coordination, was it done to you know, cover up a criminal enterprise of a different kind, which you could make the argument it was because they were funneling money back to Somalia, uh and that no money goes through those those financial markets there unless al Shabab gets a cut, which is a terrorist organization. So you could, yeah, I mean you could, you could try to make the case. Okay, thanks so much. Sure, Yeah, thanks Jerry, I appreciate the call. Happy New Year. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's what they're going to try to pursue. They could, depending on the facts of the individual cases. So we'll see. There was one daycare in particular that went viral for two reasons actually one I alluded to before the break and the other well, here you take a listen. So this is quality leering center. I meant to say quality learning center. Don't open they said they spelt learning wrong. Don't open up? How do you have ice here, ma'am. I'm literally a YouTuber. Don't open up, ma'am. What do you think about the fraud that's taking place here in Minnesota? Don't open up? We have eyes man. What do you think about this place being licensed for ninety nine children? Don't open up. And getting four million dollars over them, four million dollars in the last two years. What do you think about that? Are you in favor? Are you in favor of that go away? No, we're not welcome here, kamni. Are you in favor of one point nine million dollars going illegally frauduly to this business that has quality learning center? But Kenny is still learning right. On the door. Don't open up, ma'am. We are not ice. Now. Maybe she was talking about all of the snow and ice that was on the ground in the parking lots where no little children's footprints could be seen. Maybe, but I think she was talking about immigration customs enforcement. Oh and by the way, that woman was not a Somali woman. It was an older white woman with a galactic sized bleeding heart with immeasurable amounts of empathy because she's obviously better than you. Okay, that's that's the message. She cares more than you. She's Minnesota nicer than you. She wants the people in the building who are here illegally, maybe committing millions of dollars worth of fraud, to not open the door because they could face some sort of repercussion for their illegal activities, because she cares more than you care. She cares about people, even the ones that are committing massive fraud. See that the two reasons, the Quality Leering Center sign on above the door, and then obviously this leftist moonbat that's out front accusing Nick Shirley of being ice. Some of these daycares were in these like industrial commercial warehouse buildings. They had no visible amenities for kids, no playgrounds right, no outdoor spaces. They were door maybe a window in like this big concrete block building in a you know, in like a warehouse district, and the windows at many of the places that they went to, if not I think every one of them, there was one. I think there was one building that had a window that you could kind of look through on the side. It was like a slat, like a very thin window next to the door. But all the other windows, if a building even had windows. All the other windows were blacked out again, Like there's a template, right, Like when you set up this fraudulent business, this is what you need to do. You need to hang a sign, you need to block out the windows if you have any right, and then you need to keep the doors locked, which was also kind of a weird thing, but like do you keep the doors closed at the daycare center because you know you don't want intruders to add access it? Like I could understand why you would lock the doors of a daycare center to protect the kids inside, So that makes sense. But if somebody comes to the door, which this is another thing that I would have done differently. I would have gone in alone or maybe brought a child with me and said I would like to enroll my kid in your daycare. But when you show up with a camera, guy that's the daycare operator is not going to let you in. Right. In fact, they called the cops on him. Two different people at two different places called the police to have Nick Shirley removed for trespassing because it was private property, and that is their right to do that. They can call people, They call the cops to get people off of their property. They can totally do that. The other thing, though, is that it is not just about the daycares. It's not just about the kids. Multiple storefronts for adult healthcare companies were in the same offices buildings in industrial areas. One building had fourteen companies in one building, another had twenty two. We want healthcare, yes, we'd like to speak about getting healthcare here? No? No, no, Why can't I get health care here? Wait? Wait, warning, you are under video surveillance and no trespassing security armed. This is the strangest place I've ever been to get healthcare. Just a bunch of different places. Healthcare here, healthcare here, another healthcare company right here. There are three healthcare companies inside of this building, right here in this room of seven c Now we have another Helping Hands Homecare LLC, another healthcare company present help right here. We're looking for the best rates of healthcare here inside this building because we have so many options. Who can we talk about getting the best healthcare? I don't know? No, all right, we will not get any health care here, David. This is one of the stranger places I've ever been. Literally, healthcare every door you go to, yet nobody will give you a rate. Isn't that weird? Do you want my business or is it I'm not the customer, right, You don't need a customer, You don't need me as a customer because your business is something else. This is what we would call a front. This is a front for something else. You're doing something else through this business that would actually be detrimental if you had customers, right, it would be working at cross purposes bringing people in. And one daycare provider said that this is not the daycare for you, which I think was a reference to the fact that he's not Somali. These businesses, by the way, the particularly the adult healthcare providers quote unquote providers, they are served if you will, by the transportation companies, which also don't actually do anything. See like one of the transportation companies they drove by, they had all of their vans that were parked in their parking lot and it had snowed, which was why that woman was screaming ice issome, and none of the vehicles could be moved because they were all buried in snow. So they're not actually doing a lot of transporting of people. And this is during normal business hours on a weekday. Again, there is a word for this kind of an operation. It's called a front all right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 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