Sheriff "Not My Fault" McFadden gets meeting over jail inspections (04-24-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] Stan says regarding the last hour's topic, obviously Joe Biden does not believe that there's good

[00:00:34] people on both sides. Right? Hamas may be good, but Maga is bad. That's true, Stan. That is true.

[00:00:41] Right. The he's got like the most, the most vitriolic he gets is towards Maga Republicans.

[00:00:51] He can't bring himself to condemn anybody else quite like he brings himself to condemn

[00:00:58] Trump supporters. All right, let me go over here to the Charlotte Observer,

[00:01:03] a story the other day about a week ago actually that Sheriff, Mecklerburg County Sheriff Gary,

[00:01:12] not my fault McFadden, he's going to get what he's been asking for.

[00:01:15] Yeah, Governor Roy Cooper, my good friend Ray and other state leaders have agreed to have talks

[00:01:25] with Mecklerburg Sheriff Gary, not my fault McFadden about his concerns that state jail

[00:01:31] inspectors are unfairly targeting him and coming to inaccurate conclusions

[00:01:38] after people died in the jail. Right. Just ignore that part. All right, just the key here is that

[00:01:46] not my fault McFadden doesn't believe he's being treated fairly in operating the jail

[00:01:54] when the inspectors come around and he's being held to different standards and he said

[00:01:59] in that news conference a couple of weeks ago it's because he's black.

[00:02:02] That's what he said. Right? He said he's African American Sheriff and he's being

[00:02:10] targeted for this and end his politics, remember? He's a Democrat.

[00:02:16] The inspections are done by the Department of Health and Human Services controlled by Democrats.

[00:02:23] So I guess that means North Carolina Democrat Party is racist? I think that's what he's saying.

[00:02:28] Which is kind of on brand for North Carolina Democrats just historically speaking, you know.

[00:02:35] Here was the statement that he put out this was way back on April 16th,

[00:02:39] a letter he wrote actually to Chris Woods, the Chief Jail Inspector. He says on April 9th,

[00:02:48] it was a Tuesday, engineering jail inspector Charles Brown visited Mecklerburg County Detention

[00:02:54] Center Central to conduct a semi-annual inspection pursuant to the state statute.

[00:03:00] As you know, Mr. Brown's inspection ended prematurely when he was unable to explain to

[00:03:06] me and my staff why he was requesting to receive and review an inordinate amount of data regarding

[00:03:14] supervision rounds at the jail. All right so what is this about? Okay well these systems

[00:03:21] have been in place in various forms for a very, very long time like the better part of two centuries,

[00:03:27] probably even longer and it was a way to ensure that people who were making the rounds on guard

[00:03:33] duty actually did it right because if you're in charge of walking the perimeter and making

[00:03:39] sure that people aren't breaking in and that sort of thing and everything's okay,

[00:03:44] you got to make sure that the person you hired to do that or if it's you that you're

[00:03:49] actually making the rounds and you're not just you know off hiding in a closet sleeping

[00:03:54] for a couple hours while on shift right? No gold brick. So how do you prevent that from happening?

[00:04:01] Well here's one example, I think I've told this before but if you go to the Biltmore House

[00:04:07] there is, and by the way I highly recommend you going to the Biltmore House

[00:04:11] and going with a friend who used to be one of the tour guides. I mean that's how I did it

[00:04:15] and it was awesome. Anyway you go to the house and they've got a system, they had these,

[00:04:23] I think there were keys or buttons or something like these plates in the wall

[00:04:28] and the guards would walk around and when you walk past the plate and it either had,

[00:04:38] I forget exactly what it looked like but it's either a key system or a button system. I think

[00:04:44] it was a key system and you would walk through and you would insert the key, turn it and it would flip

[00:04:50] a switch basically that could only be flipped. This button could only be tripped by that key

[00:04:56] and so it proved that you had walked past it. Nowadays we got fobs right? You just walk by

[00:05:03] with your little key card and swipe it and now that goes into the database and it shows that

[00:05:08] you walk past this particular fob. And so that's kind of the system that the jail uses is you've

[00:05:16] got to walk past and you've got to swipe past stuff and it shows that the corrections officers have

[00:05:21] made the rounds and have done so at the appointed times and it's a pretty rigorous kind of a

[00:05:27] schedule. I mean it's a couple minutes basically between the swipes. You've got to keep circling

[00:05:32] around, circling around because I don't know if you're aware of this or not but criminals,

[00:05:40] they're kind of devious sometimes. They'll try to find ways to break the law. It's true and so they

[00:05:47] engage in these activities if they know that the guards aren't coming around at a certain time.

[00:05:53] The inspectors ask for the data to show the rounds and this is where

[00:05:58] Sheriff Not My Fault McFadden has gotten into some trouble with these inspectors is because

[00:06:04] the rounds and the swiping is not apparently where it needs to be. And sometimes when these prisoners

[00:06:13] die it's because a guard didn't walk past and didn't see something at a time when they may have

[00:06:19] been otherwise able to save the prisoners. Sorry. The residents life because Sheriff Not My Fault says

[00:06:29] they're not inmates or prisoners, they are residents. And so when this inspector guy,

[00:06:36] Charles Brown was asked why do you want all of this information? Which dude that's the

[00:06:43] inspector, he's the state inspector. He gets to ask for whatever he wants. It's my understanding.

[00:06:48] If I'm there to inspect the jail, I want to see your data. Give me your data.

[00:06:54] Why do you need to see my data? McFadden is acting like these jerks that get pulled over

[00:06:59] and have the arguments with the cops. And you see them on the body cam video. They're

[00:07:06] acting like jerks. They're trying to litigate a case. You didn't have a right to pull me over.

[00:07:11] I want to see what's your badge. I'm going to talk to your manager and all this other stuff.

[00:07:15] Brown's initial reply was because I can't. When asked why do you want all this information,

[00:07:23] why do we got to turn it over? Because I can't. When asked to explain further,

[00:07:30] I love how this is all dressed up too. Do you think this is how the conversation actually went?

[00:07:36] Please, Mr. Inspector, dear Inspector Brown, would you perchance elaborate upon your response?

[00:07:50] When asked to explain further, Mr. Brown stated that he had recently within the previous two

[00:07:55] weeks been requesting and reviewing the same amount of data from all the facilities he inspected.

[00:08:01] My staff then asked for a list of those facilities from which Mr. Brown had recently

[00:08:08] requested such voluminous records. It was at that point that Mr. Brown confessed.

[00:08:15] Well, I mean, not my fault McFadden was homicide. Remember, he had the TV show and everything.

[00:08:22] I am homicide. He was a homicide detective who kept a bunch of stuff at his desk that

[00:08:27] he shouldn't have kept at his desk allegedly, but I digress. So maybe he just cracked under

[00:08:31] the interrogative prowess of homicide. Right? That's what it sounds like happened.

[00:08:36] He asked a simple question and boom, the guy completely caved. Right? I lied. I have sinned.

[00:08:45] Maybe that happened. Sure, that could happen. I mean, of all the things that haven't happened,

[00:08:48] that probably hadn't happened the most, but it could have.

[00:08:51] He confessed that he had lied about his requests of other facilities and that his request for the

[00:08:59] Mechleburg Sheriff's data was unprecedented and unique. Okay, here's the thing. Still doesn't matter

[00:09:06] to me. All right. So he's like, oh, I asked for this for everybody. All right. Tell us

[00:09:10] who you asked for. Okay, whatever. I haven't asked anybody yet. You got me. I lied. Oh my

[00:09:15] gosh. You know what? Still, give me the data. Right? I'm here to inspect your jail because you

[00:09:23] had another person die here. You've had five deaths or four deaths in five months, something like that.

[00:09:29] And so every time somebody dies, I got to come back here and check your jail.

[00:09:32] So now you know what? Give me everything. I want to look at all of it.

[00:09:35] Under what authority? State statute. Give it to me. Are you doing this for anybody else?

[00:09:40] Why are you targeting us? I'm not targeting you. I do it for everybody. What other places?

[00:09:45] All right. You got me. I lied. I'm not doing it for anybody else. Give me the data.

[00:09:49] Like that's, and I'm supposed to be outraged about this. Look, maybe there's something more.

[00:09:54] I'd love to hear from this guy, Chris Woods. Or I'd love to hear from Charles Brown.

[00:09:59] When pressed by me personally as to why he was treating us differently than any other facility

[00:10:04] or even why he was treating the Sheriff's office differently than any of the other large

[00:10:08] capacity detention centers in the state, Mr. Brown indicated that he could not

[00:10:12] or would not answer that question. And he thought it would be best for him to leave.

[00:10:19] Again, this is, this is not my fault McFadden's narrative. Again, would love to hear from the

[00:10:25] other side of this story because there is another side to this story. But don't worry,

[00:10:30] the state officials are going to come and they're going to talk with the Sheriff

[00:10:34] and we're going to get to the bottom of it, I'm sure. Alrighty. So

[00:10:38] so, Charlotte Observer reporting that jails in North Carolina are inspected by the North Carolina

[00:10:45] Department of Health and Human Services twice per year for compliance with state regs.

[00:10:51] They are also inspected following a report of a death in the jail. An inspector will look to

[00:10:57] ensure safety regulations and proper protocol were followed. And in the past, these inspectors

[00:11:04] these inspectors have noted deficiencies in the Mechlamur jail.

[00:11:09] And Gary, not my fault McFadden or Sheriff, it's very sensitive to this. He gets very mad when

[00:11:16] he gets dinged on these reports because he has the triple crown of all these other

[00:11:20] accreditations. He's very happy and proud of all of those. He's always touting all of those

[00:11:24] things. But you know, the lousy media come along and just focus on these bad things

[00:11:29] and for somebody dies, you know. He has been critical of the health department and two jail

[00:11:35] inspectors for much of the month at a press conference. He said the inspectors quote seemingly

[00:11:42] target his detention center and apply extra scrutiny to it. Charlotte Observer has asked

[00:11:47] McFadden and his comm staff to provide details on specific reports in which he believes

[00:11:53] jail inspectors were unfair or mistaken in their conclusions. His office had not provided any of

[00:12:00] that as of Friday. I'm being targeted. I'm being targeted. Okay, do you have any proof of any of

[00:12:09] this? And no. Yeah, exactly. Got an email here to Pete at the PeteCalinerShow.com. Stanley says

[00:12:24] in one interview McFadden said that his administration has obviously done some things

[00:12:29] differently than previous administrations. That is true. He did say that. Yet he claims that

[00:12:34] all criticism regarding the results of his performance are racism. Stanley, there is an

[00:12:41] obvious and very easily understandable explanation for this which is, shut up, racist. All right,

[00:12:52] there you go. Yeah, seriously. You can't run for the office, win the office, win reelection to

[00:13:02] the office, touting a record of blowing up all of the systems that were good old boy systems,

[00:13:08] replacing all of the people, doing all the different things and then complain that for some

[00:13:13] reason you're getting all this extra scrutiny. Yes, you're getting extra scrutiny because

[00:13:18] the stuff that you are implementing has coincidentally coincided with a bunch of dead

[00:13:27] residents and that tends to prompt a little bit of examination, particularly from the people

[00:13:36] that are hired to do examinations of jails, particularly after someone dies.

[00:13:48] Scott says, I am not sure why news sources have not begun to ask more questions about

[00:13:52] the qualifications of Gary, not my fault McFadden, to serve as sheriff. Well, okay, so I don't want

[00:14:00] to say in defense of the local news organizations because I just don't know because I wasn't here

[00:14:04] when McFadden first ran for office. So I don't know what kinds of deep dives people did.

[00:14:13] But before Steve or Scott rather says, before his heady days of being a TV star

[00:14:19] in I am homicide, Gary McFadden spent a significant amount of time being a chauffeur for previous

[00:14:26] Charlotte police chief Rodney Monroe. I did not know that. Is that true? I did not know that.

[00:14:32] I'm not aware of this. And I remember Rodney Monroe. Did he crash a bunch of cars or something?

[00:14:41] He couldn't get insurance or is that what happened?

[00:14:44] I personally have zero sympathy for Gary McFadden regarding his beef with the NC

[00:14:53] Department of Health and Human Services. I was made to wait 11 months for a concealed

[00:14:58] carry permit renewal. I called a number of times continually got the run around and was once

[00:15:03] told that I would just need to wait my turn only when I asked a lawyer who was organizing

[00:15:08] an effort to sue him. Did I get any movement on my permit? I have dubbed him Sheriff McFluffer

[00:15:19] Nutter because first he is super soft on crime and criminals and second I have concluded that he

[00:15:25] is nutty. I mean that does make sense. I kind of saw where that one was headed. Gotta admit.

[00:15:32] I have concluded he is nutty from listening to his election debate and also the many public

[00:15:39] statements he has made. His words alone were enough to convince me that he is a first-class

[00:15:43] nutter. Okay, well yeah. One of the changes that not my fault McFadden did when he got into

[00:15:51] office was to give the proverbial finger to ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement.

[00:16:02] This is what got him labeled as a woke sheriff that he obviously bristles at that label.

[00:16:10] But this was because he refused to participate in immigration customs enforcement's attempts to

[00:16:16] take into custody and then put into deportation proceedings people that ended up in the jail

[00:16:22] for one reason or another. Now again remember you end up in the jail if you get arrested for something.

[00:16:29] Right? So you get it, if you are brought into the jail now the jail has to identify who you are

[00:16:34] and prior to the implementation 20 some odd years ago of a program called 287G

[00:16:38] people would come into the jail and they would offer fake names, they had fake documents

[00:16:44] and such, not that they were undocumented, they had fake ones.

[00:16:49] And so trying to figure out who these people are in the jail and whether or not you should

[00:16:53] release them back into our community when you don't know you may have picked them up for

[00:17:00] some offense but they're actually like a super duper criminal from some other country

[00:17:07] and you just don't know that because you never got access to their records in their home country.

[00:17:12] And 287G was meant to deputize the local deputies at the jail and give them access to the databases

[00:17:20] and then let them search and run the fingerprints through and IDs and stuff.

[00:17:25] It was an identification program so then ICE would say, hey hold on to that guy we're

[00:17:29] going to come get him and then that outraged the quote advocates.

[00:17:36] They said it was racist.

[00:17:38] Right?

[00:17:41] So they stopped working with ICE, they abandoned the 287G program and they said we're not going

[00:17:45] to hold these people and like if you want them to be held you have to have a judge sign a warrant.

[00:17:50] Right? But these are civil things over on the ICE side, right? These are civil proceedings

[00:17:56] so you can't get a judge to issue a criminal warrant. And McFadden knows this by the way,

[00:18:03] the people who make these arguments, they know that ICE can't do the thing that they're

[00:18:08] demanding and but they make it sound like we're totally willing to cooperate with them

[00:18:12] if ICE will just do this thing that they can't do. And in fact then ICE tried to

[00:18:18] make up some form of a warrant, a document of some kind, but that didn't work either.

[00:18:23] Advocates spent tax day April 15th highlighting how immigrants have contributed to North

[00:18:30] Carolina while pushing back on a bill that Republicans in the legislature which by the

[00:18:34] way legislative session kicked off today, they're going to be taking up this this bill again

[00:18:40] and the bill would force local sheriffs like not my fault McFadden to cooperate

[00:18:46] with federal immigration officials because most sheriffs in North Carolina do. Some do not.

[00:18:54] Ours is one of the some. Kelly Morales the co-director of Siembra, North Carolina or NC

[00:19:02] joined immigrant workers and others outside the North Carolina Department of Revenue

[00:19:07] while holding an oversized check for $300 million. A recent report by the left-leaning

[00:19:14] Carolina forward, left lean I love when they say that term that adjective left leaning

[00:19:22] their leftists their progressives it's not it's not like oh they just kind of lean a little

[00:19:26] bit left no no they're like all the way left they said they or they lean so far to the

[00:19:30] left they've fallen over right they're completely on the left side Carolina forward and they put out

[00:19:34] this this quote report that said uh this is the amount that undocumented immigrants pay in state

[00:19:42] and local taxes based on data from Pew research and other organizations okay what's the other side

[00:19:49] of the ledger you hear me ask that question a lot of times because you're offering up this

[00:19:56] data point and you're saying I'm only supposed to look at the 300 million dollars in revenue

[00:20:00] what about the cost do these people have kids that attend school might some of those 300 million

[00:20:07] dollars be used to pay for their education what do you think how about law enforcement efforts

[00:20:15] is there some revenue that's going to that right what's the other side of the ledger

[00:20:20] and that's the first indication that the report is biased okay if you're listening to this podcast

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[00:21:15] will you be ready when the lights go out I've got a message here on the twitter machine

[00:21:22] from mark to Pete being inspected by dhs four times a year I know the fewer fences you have

[00:21:30] the fewer times they will persecute you so how about stop the people dying in your facility

[00:21:36] and then that'll mean less time they're going to be persecuting you

[00:21:41] well now mark that might be a little too obvious for homicide um Cindy says sure if not my fault

[00:21:51] McFadden got elected for one reason only he promised to get rid of 287 g which was a Soros

[00:21:58] funded movement now it's just other groups still funded by the same source with different

[00:22:03] non-profit names yep I remember this movement was all across the state um I remember sitting

[00:22:13] guess the original sheriff that implemented it was Jim Pendergraf and then Chip Bailey took over

[00:22:19] after Jim retired and Jim a democrat was then hired by the bush administration to go around the

[00:22:27] country and help other sheriff's offices implement 287 g in their jails he did that for several years

[00:22:36] but it was I mean that's a tough gig um because you're living out of a suitcase basically that's

[00:22:43] I remember talking with him about that at the time and Chip Bailey came in and he kept up the

[00:22:47] program and I believe all of the uh what was it Erwin Carmichael I believe I think he kept it up

[00:22:53] and so then there were I remember sitting in press conferences when uh when Pendergraf was there when

[00:23:00] Bailey was there and there were activists masquerading as reporters activists with bylines

[00:23:08] and they would make these arguments not ask questions but they would make arguments in the

[00:23:13] form of a question um about the harm that was being done to the community right and that

[00:23:21] that going after or incarcerating and then turning over for deportation people with records violent

[00:23:27] criminals that this would make uh the Hispanic population and Charlemagne-Kleberg less safe

[00:23:35] they didn't because then they wouldn't want to call law enforcement because they wouldn't

[00:23:39] want to get somebody in trouble and have them deported and so if you keep 287 g in place

[00:23:47] then that means you get less policing less safety in that community that was their argument

[00:23:59] that's still their argument by the way last year the north carolina house passed a bill

[00:24:06] that would require sheriffs to honor detainer requests by immigration customs enforcement

[00:24:12] to hold people that are suspected of being in the country illegally it would require them to

[00:24:15] hold them for 48 hours the state senate did not take up that bill but a spokesperson for senate

[00:24:22] leader phil berger a republican says he does support moving that bill forward in this legislative

[00:24:30] session so that was why the activists or as uh myfox8.com w n c n out of uh i think that's

[00:24:42] rolly um michael hyland's report he calls them advocates right what's the difference between

[00:24:48] an advocate and an activist really not much right not much earlier this year house speaker tim moore

[00:25:02] who's running for a seat in congress said that the bill would be a top priority among uh or amid

[00:25:07] record crossings at the us mexico border immigration is among the key issues in the 2024 election

[00:25:13] yeah mcfadden's lucky he's not running in this election cycle and he got lucky last time that

[00:25:20] he had two opponents one of whom jenna hicks ran the jail in mecklenburg and he fired her

[00:25:29] and she would have been a much better option in fact that's why i is an unaffiliated registered

[00:25:36] voter i went and voted in the democrat primary went over there specifically to vote against mcfadden

[00:25:46] and it didn't work i mean i tried look that's all i can do i went over there and i voted in that

[00:25:51] and then i voted against every single democrat incumbent i think i wrote in hillary too for

[00:25:57] pretty well i'm just kidding i don't remember i don't remember who all was on the ballot

[00:26:01] but that was my main reason as an unaffiliated voter for going in the democrat primary

[00:26:07] because i want i wanted him to lose that race to hicks she's way more qualified

[00:26:14] um this bill that the house is looking to run it has passed previously however governor roi cooper

[00:26:21] my good friend ray by the way i call him a good friend ray because that's what hillary clinton

[00:26:25] called him when he came to town when she came to town she called him my good friend ray and then

[00:26:30] gamala harris called him ray cooper as well so they must know something i don't

[00:26:34] so i'm just trying to be respectful anyway uh he vetoed that bill last time but this time the

[00:26:39] gop has got themselves a veto proof super majority all right that'll do it for this episode thank

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