Sheriff McFadden fires more staff & issues a blame-shifting statement (11-14-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:30] Breaking news. Out of the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office. No, McFadden is still there. But he fired two other people. Apparently, he was wanting to fire them. And the guy that just quit, Kevin Canty, his chief deputy, who wrote the big resignation letter, went public with all the problems and stuff. Apparently, McFadden wanted Canty to recommend these two people get fired. Canty refused.

[00:01:00] And then quit. And so McFadden fired the two people that he wanted Canty to recommend fire. Does that make sense? WBTV reporting. This is from Naomi Coles.

[00:01:11] Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary, not my fault, McFadden. Okay, I put the nickname in there.

[00:01:19] McFadden terminated two executive staff members yesterday. The latest upheaval following the resignation of the sheriff's chief deputy. Human Resources Director Rudine Pearson.

[00:01:38] R-U-D-Y-N-E. R-U-D-Y-N-E. Rudine. Rudine A. Pearson. Human Resources Director was fired.

[00:01:48] And the business manager, Dr. Angelia Rigsby, terminated in the past week, according to information from the sheriff's office.

[00:01:59] WBTV obtained a copy of Rigsby's termination letter dated and effective Wednesday, November 13th.

[00:02:07] The letter did not list a reason for her firing.

[00:02:11] Pearson, who was the HR director.

[00:02:16] She was terminated a week prior.

[00:02:19] So on November 7th.

[00:02:21] Pearson had been employed for five years at the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office.

[00:02:26] Rigsby, the business manager, she was a recent hire from March.

[00:02:35] So things are going well over at the sheriff's office, obviously.

[00:02:40] In a press release today, McFadden announced four leadership changes at the agency.

[00:02:49] Quote, I am confident that these leadership changes will bring the vision and integrity and experience that's needed to help the agency move forward.

[00:03:06] Yeah, that's it.

[00:03:09] That's what's going to do it.

[00:03:13] This is according to a statement from McFadden, quote,

[00:03:17] The sheriff's office is poised to make significant strides for the future of our agency and the communities we serve.

[00:03:24] This is the beginning of a new chapter.

[00:03:26] We will all work together to write.

[00:03:30] Nobody believes you.

[00:03:32] You're a terrible leader.

[00:03:35] Oh, my God.

[00:03:38] Christopher Allen was named interim chief deputy and joined the sheriff's office from the Union County Sheriff's Office earlier this year.

[00:03:47] Good luck.

[00:03:49] Shelby Jones was named chief of staff.

[00:03:52] Shanta Williams.

[00:03:55] Shanta Williams.

[00:03:56] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:20] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:22] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:23] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:24] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:24] Shanta Williams.

[00:04:24] Both women that were fired reported directly to Canty, who, recall, he was only hired in like March or February.

[00:04:36] He hadn't even been there a full year.

[00:04:39] And he took a look around and was like, oh, this is nuts.

[00:04:42] He drafted a resignation letter started in June.

[00:04:46] And then finally just turned it in a week ago.

[00:04:52] In an interview with WBTV, Kevin Canty said that Sheriff McFadden had pushed him to fire the two women, but Canty refused, telling him that their terminations would be without merit.

[00:05:08] Quote, he told me that I could recommend it, which, of course, he doesn't need that to fire anybody.

[00:05:14] He was wanting me to be his hatchet man and to use me as a scapegoat to treat people unfairly.

[00:05:25] Okay.

[00:05:25] And then McFadden has issued a statement, a video statement.

[00:05:34] This just came down 29 minutes ago.

[00:05:40] I have not heard this whole thing.

[00:05:42] It runs one minute long.

[00:05:44] Let's take a listen.

[00:05:45] Hi, this is Sheriff Gary McFadden of the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office.

[00:05:48] Today, I want to take a few minutes to talk to you about the language and the issues that have been in the media.

[00:05:55] Wow, look at all the awards he's got around him.

[00:05:57] Man.

[00:05:58] One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

[00:06:07] Yeah, I count that.

[00:06:08] Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one.

[00:06:14] One, I count at least twenty-one what are apparently awards of some kind.

[00:06:19] Look at how decorated he is.

[00:06:21] Oh, my gosh.

[00:06:23] Award after award after award right behind him so everybody can see how awesome he is.

[00:06:30] Oh, man.

[00:06:31] Um, let me back up a second here.

[00:06:34] You want to talk to you about.

[00:06:35] Yeah, because he's going to tell us what he's going to talk to us about.

[00:06:37] Okay.

[00:06:38] I want to talk to you about the language and the issues that have been in the media.

[00:06:41] It doesn't matter who recorded or how many years ago it was recorded.

[00:06:45] Today, I want to apologize for that language.

[00:06:49] Held to a higher standard.

[00:06:51] That's the office of the sheriff.

[00:06:52] But you must understand that I'm human and I'm not perfect and I will make mistakes.

[00:06:58] Yes, you've made a lot of mistakes.

[00:07:00] Lots and lots and lots of mistakes over six years.

[00:07:03] And note the comment there about how long ago it was recorded.

[00:07:07] This is apparently supposed to be some sort of a defense that, oh, this thing is from like two years ago.

[00:07:11] That's not a defense, people.

[00:07:13] That's not a defense.

[00:07:14] The fact that it took two and a half years for people to finally publish the audio,

[00:07:20] the fact that it was two years ago is not a defense for what he said on the audio.

[00:07:27] So he's acknowledging that he said it.

[00:07:29] He's admitting that's him on the recording.

[00:07:31] Yes, he did say that.

[00:07:32] Yes, these things are true.

[00:07:34] He's acknowledging that he refers to white people in his command staff as crackers.

[00:07:40] And he calls black people the N-word.

[00:07:44] He refers to his employees with racial slurs.

[00:07:49] He's acknowledging that he did that.

[00:07:51] And probably has continued to do it because Kevin Canty said he's only been there for less than a year.

[00:07:58] And Kevin Canty said what?

[00:07:59] That he heard it himself.

[00:08:01] He heard the sheriff using this kind of language all the time.

[00:08:05] And referring to people that work there as, you know, a plantation mentality and all of this stuff.

[00:08:12] The sheriff is admitting that this stuff is true.

[00:08:18] It doesn't matter that it was two years ago.

[00:08:21] It's not an excuse.

[00:08:24] But he's apologizing.

[00:08:25] Let's hear him out.

[00:08:28] The interviews.

[00:08:29] The interviews will come because they have the luxury to talk openly and freely.

[00:08:33] But by law, I am not.

[00:08:35] Okay, that's not true.

[00:08:37] Once again, McFadden lies, right?

[00:08:39] It's not my fault I can't talk.

[00:08:41] You actually, sir, can talk about things that you said.

[00:08:45] You can do that.

[00:08:47] In fact, you literally just did.

[00:08:50] Right?

[00:08:51] You literally just referenced the stuff that they're talking about.

[00:08:57] And so now he's like blaming the messenger, which is precisely what Kevin Canty said this sheriff does.

[00:09:04] Right?

[00:09:04] He blames the messenger.

[00:09:06] He blames other people.

[00:09:07] He attacks the messenger.

[00:09:08] When they're saying, hey, this guy's leadership is terrible.

[00:09:12] And what does he do?

[00:09:13] He attacks the messenger.

[00:09:16] And that's what he's doing right now.

[00:09:18] Oh, I can't talk because law prevents me from talking about this stuff.

[00:09:23] No, you can talk about your leadership style.

[00:09:26] You can talk about how you chastise your command staff in public.

[00:09:33] How you use racial slurs to refer to them.

[00:09:36] How you call the sheriff's office a, quote, plantation mentality.

[00:09:41] You can talk about the culture that you have created.

[00:09:44] Those are all things you can talk about.

[00:09:47] You can come in here and talk about it.

[00:09:49] I'll hear you out.

[00:09:50] It's not going to be the most comfortable of interviews that you do, I suggest.

[00:09:53] But you're free to come on in.

[00:09:57] As is Kevin Canty.

[00:09:59] Because I'm bound by law and I can't speak openly and freely.

[00:10:03] But I'm still committed to this community.

[00:10:05] I'm still committed to the residents in the Mecklenburg County Detention Center.

[00:10:09] And I'm still committed to my staff.

[00:10:11] But I want you all to be patient with me because I still have to run the largest sheriff's office in North Carolina.

[00:10:17] Oh, he's the victim.

[00:10:18] Oh, poor guy.

[00:10:20] The hero victim again.

[00:10:21] He just can't stop.

[00:10:22] He just can't stop.

[00:10:24] He's the hero victim once again.

[00:10:27] I can't talk about this stuff because law prohibits me from doing so.

[00:10:30] Look at me.

[00:10:31] I can't even defend myself.

[00:10:33] You can, actually.

[00:10:34] You can.

[00:10:38] And I just want everybody to know that I'm running the largest detention center.

[00:10:43] You asked for the job.

[00:10:45] And then you fired the people that were actually running the detention center when you got there.

[00:10:51] That's your fault, dude.

[00:10:53] You thought you knew best.

[00:10:55] You still think you know best.

[00:10:57] You had staff in place that were doing the job.

[00:11:00] And you fired them.

[00:11:02] That's your call.

[00:11:03] Six years ago, you made that call.

[00:11:05] You continue making these calls of firing people and chastising your command staff in front of subordinates and their colleagues.

[00:11:13] So that's all on you.

[00:11:16] Offices in North Carolina.

[00:11:17] So be patient.

[00:11:18] But understand this, that I'm committed to the work of the office of the sheriff.

[00:11:23] Thank you.

[00:11:25] Yeah.

[00:11:25] No.

[00:11:26] No, I'm not going to be patient with you.

[00:11:27] Six years is long enough.

[00:11:29] Sorry.

[00:11:31] Patience is worn out.

[00:11:33] For me, now, your mileage may vary.

[00:11:35] Email is pete at thepetecalendarshow.com.

[00:11:39] I was not planning on spending more time talking about the sheriff.

[00:11:46] But he just went and fired two more people out of the sheriff's office, the head of HR and then the business manager.

[00:11:54] And apparently the chief deputy that quit last week or so said that the sheriff told him to recommend that he fire them.

[00:12:03] And he was like, I'm not going to do that.

[00:12:05] It would be without merit.

[00:12:06] In other words, there isn't a reason to fire them.

[00:12:09] They haven't done anything that's a fireable offense.

[00:12:14] And he fired them anyway.

[00:12:15] After Canty quit, he fired them.

[00:12:19] Is that retribution against them because Canty quit?

[00:12:22] And he sees these two women as too close to Canty?

[00:12:26] I don't know.

[00:12:27] I have no idea what kind of delusions this man has.

[00:12:30] But he obviously believes that there's a whole bunch of people out to get him inside the ranks of the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office.

[00:12:37] And by the way, when you are engaged in that kind of paranoia, you will eventually be proven correct.

[00:12:44] You know why?

[00:12:45] Because people will actually start to not trust you and your leadership.

[00:12:49] They're like, oh, my gosh, this guy is.

[00:12:53] He sees enemies behind every corner, down every hallway.

[00:13:00] Who would want to go work there?

[00:13:02] My goodness.

[00:13:05] From Kevin Canty's.

[00:13:08] Actually, let me do this first before I go back to Kevin Canty.

[00:13:11] This is from Eileen Maddox.

[00:13:15] And she was the chaplain.

[00:13:16] Okay?

[00:13:17] So she would hear all of the employees who were having problems.

[00:13:25] They would go to her and talk with her.

[00:13:28] And she had her own issues, apparently, with McFadden.

[00:13:31] And so she finally quit.

[00:13:33] She moved to Ohio.

[00:13:34] She's gone.

[00:13:35] Right?

[00:13:36] She talked to WSOC TV.

[00:13:38] She talked to Vince Coakley today on his program as well.

[00:13:40] And when she was talking to Vince, she said that the employees were looking for a vision.

[00:13:47] Now, this is a woman who worked to get McFadden elected.

[00:13:49] So this is not somebody who had it out for the guy.

[00:13:52] Okay?

[00:13:53] She said his, they were looking to him for a vision.

[00:13:58] And his response was, you're not ready for my vision.

[00:14:04] What?

[00:14:05] What are you even talking about?

[00:14:08] Like this, guys, this is not normal behavior.

[00:14:12] And this is not leadership material.

[00:14:18] You got to have a vision.

[00:14:20] You have to have a vision if you're going to lead people.

[00:14:24] Otherwise, what are you leading them to?

[00:14:27] You got to point them in a direction and say, this is what we're striving for.

[00:14:30] And it's not just another freaking award for the sheriff's office shelf that you get to pose in front of for your hostage videos that you shoot.

[00:14:43] Which is what that video looked like.

[00:14:44] That's why I'm saying that.

[00:14:45] He, the video that he just released.

[00:14:47] He's sitting at his desk.

[00:14:49] I mean, I mean, okay.

[00:14:51] Yeah.

[00:14:51] It looks like an Oval Office kind of thing.

[00:14:53] But, like, really, do you think he wanted to shoot that video?

[00:14:56] Do you think he wanted to have to put out this one-minute statement?

[00:15:00] No.

[00:15:05] Well, she said he would propose ideas, but then he couldn't implement them.

[00:15:10] So he's an ideas guy.

[00:15:12] He's not an operations guy.

[00:15:15] And, look, I get this.

[00:15:16] I understand this.

[00:15:16] I've worked with people that I'm more of an operations person, right?

[00:15:22] I mean, yes, yes, I can come up with some really brilliant ideas.

[00:15:26] True.

[00:15:27] Like, you know, the word votainer.

[00:15:32] But, like, if you have, if you tell me, like, here's the idea.

[00:15:35] I'm like, okay, how do we go about doing it?

[00:15:37] You know, stories are powerful.

[00:15:37] I can help you do that.

[00:15:38] They help us make sense of things.

[00:15:39] I can help implement something.

[00:15:41] And apparently he was not able, according to Maddox, he's not able to do that.

[00:15:45] He's not able to implement these proposed ideas very well.

[00:15:49] And when then things go wrong, he blames other people for the failures.

[00:15:54] And she said it was never his fault.

[00:15:58] What have I been calling him?

[00:16:01] Gary, not my fault.

[00:16:03] I can see this.

[00:16:05] If I can see this, my God, everybody that works with you on a daily basis can see it, too.

[00:16:13] She called them a narcissist.

[00:16:14] And she said no one that he brought in with him is still there.

[00:16:19] The people that he brought with him into office, none of them are still there.

[00:16:25] And again, these were people that had bought into his candidacy.

[00:16:28] Why are they not there anymore?

[00:16:30] They are your life.

[00:16:30] Told through the eyes of everyone around you.

[00:16:32] You're not ready for my vision.

[00:16:33] And all who came before you.

[00:16:34] And they will tell others to come.

[00:16:35] Can you imagine working for somebody?

[00:16:37] We're like, hey, do you have a vision for what you want?

[00:16:39] And we're looking for a vision.

[00:16:42] And you, oh, you can't handle the vision.

[00:16:44] Like, what?

[00:16:46] You're not ready for it.

[00:16:48] Like, oh, thanks for making that determination.

[00:16:49] You didn't even tell us what it is.

[00:16:51] See, at that point, I'm wondering, you don't even have one, do you?

[00:16:55] Right?

[00:16:55] If you can't articulate your vision to the staff that you're now leading and you tell us that, once again, you're not ready for my vision, what is he doing?

[00:17:06] He's blame shifting again.

[00:17:07] Right?

[00:17:08] It's not that he doesn't have a vision.

[00:17:10] It's that you're not ready to hear it.

[00:17:12] You're not ready.

[00:17:13] It's not my fault.

[00:17:14] It's your fault.

[00:17:16] This guy is so toxic.

[00:17:19] So toxic to the agency and organization.

[00:17:23] It's, you know, it's going to be up to people inside the system, in the law enforcement and judicial system, as to whether or not he stays.

[00:17:33] Because I don't know if Democrats are going to oust him in a primary, and that's still two years away.

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[00:18:49] All right, let's go to the phones.

[00:18:50] Here is Tim.

[00:18:52] Welcome to the program.

[00:18:53] Tim, how are you?

[00:18:55] Hey, Pete.

[00:18:56] Thanks for taking my call.

[00:18:57] I'm doing fine.

[00:18:58] Yeah, I just had a few comments about Sheriff McFaiken.

[00:19:03] You know, he had a...

[00:19:07] I don't know if you're aware.

[00:19:08] You probably are.

[00:19:09] He had a TV show on one of those channels called Homicide.

[00:19:13] I am Homicide.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:15] The name of the...

[00:19:16] It was on like A&E or something like that.

[00:19:18] It was called I Am Homicide.

[00:19:21] Yeah.

[00:19:22] And I like that show.

[00:19:24] I enjoyed watching it.

[00:19:25] But now that...

[00:19:27] You know, now that he's been Sheriff for the past six years or so, I think people are getting

[00:19:32] to see what he's really like.

[00:19:33] I think what I saw on the show was a Hollywood or showbiz.

[00:19:38] No.

[00:19:40] I think...

[00:19:41] Well, I'm sure.

[00:19:42] But I think when he ran against Erwin Carmichael...

[00:19:47] Yeah.

[00:19:48] I have a few friends in law enforcement, and I heard that they went to Erwin Carmichael and

[00:19:55] said, you will not be elected Sheriff.

[00:19:58] Who's they?

[00:19:59] And that's...

[00:19:59] I don't know.

[00:20:01] The person that told me there...

[00:20:02] I know people in law enforcement community, but they never would say who said that.

[00:20:07] You know, I don't know whether it was local politicians or what, but...

[00:20:11] Yeah, probably.

[00:20:12] I mean, Carmichael was a Democrat, if I recall correctly.

[00:20:17] But he was a white male Democrat.

[00:20:19] And, like, part of this problem that the Democrat Party has, and I remember hearing this from

[00:20:24] another at-large elected countywide white male Democrat who said, I'm a dying breed in this

[00:20:34] county, a white male at-large elected Democrat.

[00:20:37] And it was Joe Coach White.

[00:20:41] Yeah.

[00:20:41] Coach Joe White.

[00:20:42] He was a city councilman.

[00:20:43] He was a school board chairman.

[00:20:45] And, like, he could see the writing on the wall 20 years ago.

[00:20:50] And he was correct, by the way.

[00:20:52] And Carmichael, I remember he came out to where I was employed at the time, and he would give

[00:21:00] programs on women how to protect themselves, how to, you know, avoid being mugged, home

[00:21:05] protection, and all kinds.

[00:21:06] He did a lot of stuff in the community, you know, besides running his judo school or whatever

[00:21:11] it was.

[00:21:12] But I'm going to tell you, Pete, I let you go.

[00:21:14] Man, you cracked me up when you said, you can't handle my vision.

[00:21:19] I'm busted out laughing.

[00:21:21] Thanks, Pete.

[00:21:21] Have a good day.

[00:21:22] All right, Tim.

[00:21:23] I appreciate it.

[00:21:23] Thanks for the call.

[00:21:25] Yeah, you know, we try to have some fun.

[00:21:29] You can't handle my vision.

[00:21:31] That was a Colonel Jessup reference from A Few Good Men.

[00:21:37] I got a tweet here from Citizen of NC.

[00:21:42] It's a Pete tweet who says, McFadden's non-apology statement released today is an abomination.

[00:21:50] AppPatriotGirl says, clearly McFadden has a serious personality disorder.

[00:21:56] He's dangerous and needs to be removed from the office.

[00:21:59] See, any other kind of elected office, this wouldn't pose the kind of real problems that

[00:22:09] McFadden's behavior now poses.

[00:22:11] It's because he is the sheriff.

[00:22:14] If he was a state lawmaker, one of, you know, what, 50 senators or 60 senators, I forget now,

[00:22:23] 120 House members, the damage you can do is minimal.

[00:22:29] It is because you've got so many other people inside the legislative body, right?

[00:22:33] You're one member on a city council or a county commission.

[00:22:37] I'm not saying you have no power.

[00:22:38] I'm just saying there are limits.

[00:22:41] When you're the sheriff, you have a lot of power and you have guns.

[00:22:47] I'll never forget there was a police officer told me years ago, this was, he said, this

[00:22:53] was up in Asheville at the time and Asheville was going through, it probably still is for

[00:22:58] all I know, but Asheville was going through a lot of tumult and turmoil inside of its police

[00:23:03] department.

[00:23:05] And, you know, people getting fired.

[00:23:08] You had a police chief whose son wrecked his car.

[00:23:13] And then the chief, you know, tried to tell officers on scene not to, you know, fill out

[00:23:19] the reports and I mean, just all sorts of stuff.

[00:23:21] There are problems in the evidence room, you know, stuff disappearing, stuff like that.

[00:23:28] And this officer told me, he said, yeah, he says it.

[00:23:31] He's like, just think of, he was trying to describe the culture of the police department

[00:23:35] there.

[00:23:36] And he said, just think about it like high school with all of the clicks and the rumors

[00:23:42] and all of that stuff.

[00:23:44] He says, it's kind of like high school, except we all have guns.

[00:23:48] And so it just, it stuck with me because he was joking.

[00:23:53] It was a joke.

[00:23:54] Sure.

[00:23:55] But there is truth in that comment.

[00:23:58] And that's what makes this so dangerous is that you've got somebody like me personally.

[00:24:07] Personally, I am, I am convinced.

[00:24:12] And again, I am not a, I am not a psychiatrist.

[00:24:15] I'm not a lawyer either.

[00:24:17] I'm just a little old radio host, but I know how to Google stuff.

[00:24:20] And I went to the Cleveland Clinic's website and on their website, they've got the 11 signs

[00:24:29] of antisocial personality disorder.

[00:24:33] And our sheriff checks a lot of these boxes.

[00:24:37] And that is of great concern to me.

[00:24:41] And partly because I know that as I'm saying this stuff, I don't know what his reaction,

[00:24:48] if he hears this would be.

[00:24:50] And that's kind of terrifying, right?

[00:24:55] Antisocial personality disorder or APD.

[00:24:58] Coincidentally, the same acronym for Asheville Police Department.

[00:25:02] I'm kidding, but it's actually, no, it's true.

[00:25:04] It is true.

[00:25:05] It's the same.

[00:25:06] It's the same acronym.

[00:25:08] There's another word for this, antisocial personality disorder.

[00:25:13] And here's the thing.

[00:25:15] People don't know when they have it.

[00:25:18] Most of the time, they have no idea.

[00:25:20] A lot of this stuff is just sort of, you know, subconscious.

[00:25:23] They don't understand the difference between right and wrong.

[00:25:27] They don't respect the feelings and emotions of other people.

[00:25:31] Constant lying or deception.

[00:25:34] Being callous.

[00:25:35] Difficulty recognizing emotion.

[00:25:40] Manipulation.

[00:25:41] Risk taking.

[00:25:43] Difficulty appreciating the negative aspects of their own behavior.

[00:25:48] Right?

[00:25:49] Difficulty appreciating the negative aspects of their own behavior.

[00:25:55] And violating the rights of others through dishonest actions.

[00:25:59] Dissociopathy.

[00:26:02] Another word for antisocial personality disorder is sociopathy.

[00:26:09] And I feel like, and have felt like this for a while, I feel like, like this, this might be at play here.

[00:26:17] But again, what do I know?

[00:26:18] I'm just a radio host.

[00:26:19] All right, I got a message here from Cindy on the Twitter machine.

[00:26:23] It's a Pete tweet.

[00:26:25] Pete, the reason McFadden was elected sheriff was because of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and all of the rising stars of the BLM color revolution were pushing the defund ICE narrative.

[00:26:41] And made getting rid of 287-Cortez the most important policy to fight for.

[00:26:46] And that's what McFadden ran on.

[00:26:51] She says, he has become a mafia boss because he's untouchable.

[00:26:58] When he walks into an event, he is surrounded by bodyguards.

[00:27:02] It's unbelievable the vibe that guy carries.

[00:27:09] I do recall the year he was elected.

[00:27:12] So it's six years ago.

[00:27:13] I remember because it was the same time I was up in Asheville in Buncombe County and Quentin Miller, who fit the same sort of candidate profile and did the same thing.

[00:27:25] But he's been he's been a better sheriff, I think, than McFadden.

[00:27:29] But he ran on the same platform.

[00:27:31] He was a former Asheville police officer.

[00:27:34] He was a black Democrat and promised to, you know, not cooperate with ICE.

[00:27:43] The same stuff.

[00:27:45] And so the backlash that occurred at the General Assembly level against the quote unquote woke sheriffs that Gary McFadden, you know, claims victimhood over that term.

[00:27:56] But that's where that came from.

[00:27:58] And.

[00:28:00] I think the act is wearing thin.

[00:28:02] I think Quentin Miller realized that and started shifting gears.

[00:28:09] McFadden hasn't.

[00:28:14] There was an oh, I got a message also.

[00:28:17] Hang on to an email from Greg who says, Pete, this is a dumb question, but who has the ability to fire McFadden since he is elected?

[00:28:26] I don't know if that is the county commission, the North Carolina attorney general or what.

[00:28:31] Or does he have immunity until the next election?

[00:28:34] So I went over this a couple of times, but I keep saying it.

[00:28:37] There is a statute.

[00:28:38] We do not have.

[00:28:39] First off, we don't have the ability to do a recall of an elected official in North Carolina.

[00:28:45] But there is a way to remove unfit officers.

[00:28:50] It's section general statute 128 dash 16.

[00:28:54] Any sheriff or police officer shall be removed from office by the judge of the superior court.

[00:29:04] But you have to have charges brought in writing and they give you they give you six causes for removal that could that could prompt the removal.

[00:29:15] Willful or habitual neglect or refusal to perform the duties of his office.

[00:29:21] Corruption, extortion, conviction of a felony, intoxication or.

[00:29:28] Willful misconduct or maladministration in office.

[00:29:33] And I would submit the evidence.

[00:29:38] Is enough to show maladministration or bad, poor administration in office.

[00:29:46] So what do you do?

[00:29:49] The complaint or petition shall be entitled in the name of the state of North Carolina and may be filed upon the relation of any five qualified electors who are registered voters.

[00:29:59] Five registered voters of the county in which the person is an officer.

[00:30:04] Or upon the approval of the county attorney of such county or the D.A.

[00:30:09] Of that district or by any such officer upon his own motion.

[00:30:14] So McFadden could try to, you know, do it to himself.

[00:30:17] I don't know why he would.

[00:30:18] But.

[00:30:19] Well, then he would really be the victim and the hero.

[00:30:23] Maybe we could convince him of that.

[00:30:25] Dude, this is all.

[00:30:26] This is like your jam.

[00:30:29] This is in your wheelhouse, man.

[00:30:31] Right.

[00:30:34] Victim and hero.

[00:30:35] You file a petition to remove yourself.

[00:30:40] I don't think he'll do it.

[00:30:41] The judge may suspend the accused from office if it is judgment sufficient cause appear, blah, blah, blah.

[00:30:47] Petition of affidavit shall be advanced and take precedence over all other causes upon the court calendar and shall be heard at the next session after the petition is filed.

[00:30:57] So this process could occur very, very quickly.

[00:31:01] So that's how it's done.

[00:31:04] That's enough for me today.

[00:31:07] Steve, I'm going to need you to start my car again.

[00:31:10] All right.

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