Saving The Democracy™ by engaging in undemocracy (05-29-2025--Hour3)

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No, it's the biggest political scandal in American history as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it's huge, and we still don't even know all of the details. I welcome the book. Not going to buy it, not going to read it, but I welcome the book. I'm glad they're making their money now that you know there's no price to actually pay for telling the truth, only because I want more information, right, I want the historical record to reflect all of the information, or as much of it as possible. And so to the extent that this can create a permission structure for more people to explain their behavior and say what they knew when they knew it, and all of that, I welcome, excuse me, welcome the book. So Alex Thompson goes on to was Oh Fox News Sunday, and he's talking with Shannon Breen, and he says that top aids to Biden rationalized doing undemocratic things, and not like undemocratic like Democratic Party, because like that's why I never call them the Democratic Party, because they don't operate democratically. It's the Democrat Party. So they rationalize doing undemocratic things to hide the president's cognitive decline because failing to do so would have been too beneficial to Donald Trump. You mentioned in the book you talked to a number of cabinet secretaries. I thought this was extremely illuminating and a little bit frightening, because some of them told you they didn't think he could handle that two am, middle of the night phone call. I mean, he's the commander in chief of the nuclear codes. One of them talked about seeing him in person the last year and was shocked by he seemed disoriented, His mouth was hanging open, he seemed out of it. Did those cabinet officials express any remorse, I mean, did they not have an obligation to say the American people, we don't think this guy can be the president, much less run for four more years. There was definitely a lot of self reflection about what, if anything, they should have done differently. I think there was a feeling, like a lot of members the Democratic Party that were seeing this or some moments of him seeming out of it, that going public was not going to change his mind and was only going to help Donald Trump. And I think that's how a lot of them rationalize that. Now whether or not history will judge them, you know, as being right for doing that, you know, we will see. But this is also part of the reason why the White House was shielding him from as many people as possible, including cabinet secretaries, because sometimes, you know, you see him once, maybe it's just the bad day. You can just say, like, you know, maybe I just had one bad meeting. You're not really sure. Well yeah, okay, so I'm going to make a prediction. And you know me, I don't really make predictions, but I'm going to predict this one. History will not judge these people to have made the right decision, okay. In fact, people are already judging them as not having made the right decision. This idea that oh my gosh, we realized in twenty twenty three that he was, you know, mouth open, eyes, blank, doddering around out of it. But he had already said he's running again. So what could we do? Yeah, you could have actually pressured him not to run, and you could have started exposing this. You could have gone out like, what was the guy's name. Oh, I'm drawing a blank on it now, the one that ran against him in the primary, Dean Phillips is that his name? And he you know, he's like some governor or senator somewhere. I think he's a governor some small state, like maybe Vermont or something. And he was like, no, like, we need somebody else, and they savaged this guy. The Democrat Party hated him for it. Joe's gonna run again, He's totally fine, fit as a fiddle. And then oh, you were all lied to, right, But if more people had come out and said what they knew to be true, because they knew this to be true, had more people come out and said it, that would have brought more pressure on Joe Biden and his pollot bureau, as it's described in the book, to seed power, to step aside, which they did right after the debate performance, and then a couple of weeks of arm twisting, a little bit of a coup, you know. But then they they pressured him out. So they could have done that a year prior, they were just too scared to or they were too invested, they had incentives to keep it going. Right. Then there's this, and it did seem like there's so many people who you would have fought would have access to him who didn't because of this inner circle that really much managed his schedule and his time and his access in a way that didn't give a lot of people, you know, one on one. Time with him. In the book, you quote a long time Biden aid basically admitting he shouldn't be running again. They said to you on page eighty five, he just had to win, and then he could disappear for four years. He'd only have to show proof of life every once in a while. His aids could pick up the slack who would have been running the White House in a second bind term. Well, this person went on to say that when you're voting for a president, you're voting for the aids around him. But these aids were not even Senate confirmed aids. These are a White House aids. These were unelected people. And one of the things that really think comes out and are reporting here is that if you believe, and I think a lot of these people do sincerely believe that Donald Trump was and is an essential threat to democracy, you can nationalize anything, including sometimes doing undemocratic things, which I think is what this person is talking about. There you go when you cast your opponent as literally hitler. I've been saying this since Donald Trump came down the escalator and was attacked and called all of these terrible names. You know, through the punch a Nazi. It's okay to punch Nazis and all of that. You're a fascist, You're a Hitler. You're you know, the worst of the worst, and all of your followers are too. When you start down that path, then you once again create a permission structure for all sorts of things that are offensive, that are disturbing, disgusting, that you shouldn't be engaged in. But you're okay, well, I have to do this thing, because like, I would never kill a baby, but if I had a time machine, I would go back in time and kill baby Hitler. But it would be a baby, and I don't I would never kill any other baby, just this one, right, you start making these types of argue. This is this is one of the in philosophy classes, you test these types of hypotheticals, and the baby Hitler one is an old one because you're testing morality and you're testing you know, people's source of ethics and such, and you call this guy Hitler. And now all of a sudden, anything is allowed, including what we all could see with our own eyes. Elder abuse, trotting this guy out on stage, keeping him hidden away for most of the time, giving him the list of questions and who to call on, lying to everybody about what we're seeing with our own eyes. As gas lighting American public, rigging your own Democrat primary, like you will do anything because Donald Trump is an existential threat, as the abusive boyfriend in the documentary Forrest Gump said when excusing his own abuse of his girlfriend Jenny, who was the real villain of that movie. But he says, it's just this war and that slb Johnson, Like, that's the reason I beat you. It wasn't my fault. See, it's this other person's fault. It's this other circumstance that drove me to do the terrible thing. Yes, it also sounds a little bit like our sheriff Gary, not my fault McFadden as to why he uses racial slurs against his command staff, because they they just got him so frustrated, Right, It's darvo, reverse victim and offender. It's what narcissists and sociopaths do. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 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Just to highlight one other note, This was page eighty five out of the original Sin book. Shannon Breem read it that there was an aid that spoke to the authors Alex Thompson Jake Tapper. I think this was Thompson, and they said that Biden just had to win and then he could disappear for four years and just every now and again pop up for proof of life and the AIDS could pick up the slack. What is that an acknowledgment of his cognitive decline? Right, So this idea of it nobody knew what was going on is a lie. They did know what was going on. They just weighed again the existential threat of Donald Trump, and so it's better to have a cognitive vegetable and everybody around him lying to three hundred and fifty million Americans about his vegetative state, that that was acceptable because Orange man bad. Hey, this is this is it's so beyond. This is why it's the biggest scandal that I'm to believe that only a couple people around Biden were making that exact same calculation. Of course, not that's what the media was thinking too, Right, that's it's all the same reason. And we all knew this, we could all identify it. We can all assume this motive that they wanted to win so badly. They were so afraid of Donald Trump beating Joe Biden, that Joe Biden had won. Joe Biden was the only one that could beat Donald Trump, because he's the only one who did last time, and so we have to keep him going even though he can't keep going, and it doesn't matter his health be damned. Right, think about the amount of stress that job puts on a person. We've all seen the before and after pictures, right. Guys go in and they're like, hey, look at me. I'm young and exuberant, diet of a full head of hair. It's not gray at all. And then they come out like they've been through a ringer because of the amount of stress and the crazy hours. It's a very demanding job mentally, physically. And their ideas that will pick up the slack, that will be the president, We'll just do so much stuff that even if he doesn't know what day it is, or where he is or who he is or whatever, it won't matter. And so you can't tell me that they weren't already far along down that slope already to say we'll pick up the slack, because they already had been. They already had been doing these things. Here's Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on the podcast hosted by Stephen A. Smith. I will say, Stephen, and we never got somebody that said we should never have done this. I can't believe we did it. In retrospect. It was a mistake. How arrogant we were. I mean even you know, there was a top eight to top point House aid who acknowledged to me that this short ten to fifteen minute interview I did with Joe Biden in October twenty twenty two he would not have been capable of doing in October twenty twenty three. That admission was stunning to me. But it did not come with and we really made a mistake. We shouldn't have run him. What an error. I can't believe we did it. It didn't come with that. It came with you know. And but we thought that he was the only one that could be Trump blah blah blah. So I think that most were telling the truth as much as they had come to terms with it themselves. But I do wonder where they will be in a year, because you know, I heard from one of the people that one of the Democrats I interviewed for the book, who gave me one of the most shocking revelations, And I checked in and how are you doing? And you know, they're they're upset, but they're not upset at us. They're not upset at the book. They're just upset that it happened, and now everybody has to everybody's talking about it. So I still think that there's there were I think they're still working through a lot, don't you. Yeah, there's gradations of. Honesty, gradations of honesty. But what is Taper saying? They have no remorse? And he said, oh, maybe they'll you know, as they kind of work through this in a year, they'll think differently. No, they won't. Why would they. We are always the heroes or the victims of our own stories. We are never the villains. They do not see themselves as the villains. They're not thinking like the meme, Are we the baddies? They're not thinking like that. They're like, he's the only one that could beat Trump. We had to do it. Existential thread. I mean, yes, it was distasteful. And while I may feel a little bad about, you know, the little white lie that the president could not perform the duties of the office. Okay, fine, I felt bad gaslighting Americans over whether or not Joe Biden was nibbling his wife's finger, which should have been the cover of the book but was not. But it was all for the greater cause. We had to defeat the orange hitler. So there's no remorse here right at all. And the reason why this is such a scandal, and there are multiple scandals involved. You've got obviously the pollit Bureau of the Inner Circle, but then you also have the media who knew what and when nobody is by the way, nobody has tracked down any of the reporters that obviously submitted their questions ahead of time to the White House in order to get called on for the press conferences. And we know the reporters who had to do that because they literally were called on during the press conferences. The what too that Joe Biden held? And you know, we've got a photo I forget I think she I forget what outlet she's with, But we have the card Joe Biden holding the card with her picture, her name, her outlet, and the question. We have a picture of it. So why isn't anybody trying to track her down? Why can't she do a story or explain how that came to be? Because that's the other scandal. But then deeper is who the hell has been signing all of the laws and the executive actions? And then the next question is are those legal? Because if I'm non compassmentis and I am not able to sign documents legal documents because I am cognitively impaired, and somebody tricks me into signing it, or somebody signs my name instead, that contract is not binding. What happens then, well you may be interested to know this, if you haven't already heard, we have a whistleblower, the Department of Justice official Ed Martin, who is now a pardon attorney, and he is leading a weaponization task force. He has named three of the big Kahunas in the alleged scheme, the Autopen President Autopen, who Art thou, Anita Dunn, Bob Bauer, and Ron Klain, although he does add a couple other names into the list a little bit later here Steve Roschetti and Jill Biden start. Sorry, doctor Jill Biden, you call her doctor Jill. This was according to an interview that Ed Martin gave to Mark Halperin on his show Two Way Tonight. I'll tell you what he said. Here's a great idea. 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Other candidates and even some media were talking about it right up until the South Carolina primary. It will be very hard to convince me they didn't run him in twenty sixteen because he wasn't capable and the staffers in inner circle would use him as the face while they ran the country, just like the staffer in the book said, I really believe that was always the plan. So there were brief moments we covered this a couple I guess last week there were brief moments when people were talking and media would do stories about Joe Biden's aid and I repeat, it's not about his age. Somebody can be older than Biden but mentally more aware, more with it right. Somebody can be younger than Joe Biden and be in worse shape. So age is not the issue. The issue is his cognitive ability. And there were brief windows where people in media would talk about it, but talk about it as his age. And it was during the primary wheneverybody's like, oh, that's just old Joe. He's doddering old man or whatever. And then he gets the nomination. Then all of that gets the kibosh. No more reporting on the age. Then in twenty twenty two, when there were rumors that he was going to pass the torch because he kind of sort of said he was only going to be a transitional president, and everybody took that to me and he's only going to do four years. And then halfway through Hunter Biden's got all of his and it's like, Okay, we're gonna need some pardons and stuff, so I'm running again. And then before he makes the announcement, people started then gently nudging, oh, you know, he's maybe too old now, I mean, good job and knocking out Trump, but maybe somebody else and all this, and then of course they go after Trump and they start prosecuting him for stuff, and his approval numbers sore, and then it's like, oh, no, no, Joe the savior of the democracy. Joe is the only one that can beat him. And it just so happens that everybody around him really likes having the power they had and the protection the lifestyle. So now age is off the table again, no more talking about his age. There are there are a series of stories. I'm not gonna yeah, I'm not gonna have time to get to him today to do them full justice. But here's the headline to russ your point here from Yeah pjmedia dot com. The Democrats declare war on the Obama boys, and the Obama wing of Democratic Party is losing power and prestige because the media doesn't want to blame themselves, right, So they're trying to offload at all of the bidens, and at some point everybody's pointing at these other people that were responsible for all of it. But you also have the Obama handlers, the Obama So I was unaware of this until literally this morning. But apparently there were motorcades that would run from the White House to the Obama residence in DC in the mornings at like seven am. Did you know that a motor caid of four black SUVs would drive from the White House go to the Obama's house and an hour later they would go back. Oh, I'm sure it's nothing right. Just check it on the house for the Obamas while they're out of town. I'm sure that's what that was all about. Or they're coordinating the day's strategy. Could that be it? Obama made comments about this like, oh, it'd be nice to have somebody in place and me just you know, be behind the scenes for a third term and you know, basically running the show. And that's kind of sort of what it looks like he got. So yeah, one of the people with the auto pen Anita Done. Eric asks on Twitter, it's a Pete tweet. Eric says, Anita Done, as in the lip smacking mal worshiper who had to resign from the Obama administration because she was such an insane leftist that Anita Done. Yes, that's the same Anita Done, ed Martin. Now Trump's Parton attorney, revealed this week that his investigation into the use of the auto pen to sign all this stuff while Biden was president has actually been underway for weeks. He's been doing this for weeks. He has reached out to members of the Biden family that some persons of interest have lawyered up and that a whistle blower has already come forward with some troubling allegations. Quote. I had a whistle blower in my office ten days ago, senior Senior Democrat, saying, quote, look, it was these three people that controlled access and they were making money off of it. I played the clip a couple of days ago Congressman Burshett out of Tennessee, or Burchette, and he talked about an old governor they had there who went to jail for a cash for clemency scandal. They're making money off of it. He said this to Mark Calprin on Helperin's Two Way to Show, saying, quote, I don't know if I believe it yet, but the point is, I think we have to get to the bottom of it for the American people and to protect the process, and that's what we are doing. Martin indicated that the whistleblower was involved with the twenty twenty Biden campaign at the highest levels. Ed Martin is now the DOJ's pardon attorney. And then he threw two other names into the mix, Steve Roschetti, the former counselor to Joe Biden who previously served as chairman of Biden's twenty twenty presidential campaign, and quote obviously Jill Biden. And speaking of the auto Pen, a pro Energy group is renewing its call for an investigation into over half a dozen Biden administration executive actions related to climate change that it believes should be deemed null end void due to them being signed by an auto pen without any public common and from former President Joe Biden confirming his knowledge of them. See, there's an easy way to get to the bottom of all this, right, Just get everybody under oath, Get him into depositions, Get him to say, when you sign this particular executive order the Arctic drilling band, what was the conversation you had about that, Who made that decision, who signed in all of that. Get everybody on the record under oath. That's what needs to happen, all right, So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, and the special days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories that are going to last a lifetime. But let me ask you, are all of those treasured moments from days gone by? Are they hidden away on old VCR tapes, eight millimeter films, photos slides? Are they preserved? Because over time, these precious memories can fade and deteriorate, losing the magic of yesterday. At Creative Video, they help you protect what matters most. 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They advocate for American energy jobs. They reviewed eight Biden executive orders that it says were significant shifts in domestic energy policy, and they say they found no evidence of the President speaking about any of them publicly, which raises concerns that the orders were signed by Autopen. That's President Autopen to you, and that he was not aware of the executive orders. This is not a conspiracy theory at this point. People, we know the autopen was used, We know the people who had access to it and who used it, according to senior aids in the Biden administration, So which ones did they sign? These are not obscure bureaucratic memos. These were foundational shifts in American energy policy, yet not once did Joe Biden speak about them publicly. That's according to Daniel Turner, the founder and executive director of Power the Future. The executive orders reviewed by Power the Future, I'm just not going to keep doing it. But I'm in violation of the bilaws, but I don't care. The executive orders reviewed by Power the Future included an Arctic drilling ban in twenty twenty three, an executive order in twenty one that commits the federal government to net zero emissions by twenty fifty, an executive order mandating clean energy AI centers, and then there was the offshore drilling ban that was issued right before he left office in twenty twenty five because he didn't want to do it while he was president. So he's going to just pull the pin on that grenade and throw it into the next administration and let them have to deal with the blowback when they undo it. Oh my guys, you're killing the planet. Geyah Earth screams out for relief. Right. But he didn't do it. The whole four years he was in there, he never spoke about any of it. Did he even know these things got signed. They did not give Joe Biden. This is from earlier reporting. This is way before the original Sin book stuff came out. But they were not giving Biden negative polling information. They were hiding information from Joe Biden about his own polling, which is why he thought that he could totally take Trump again. He can carry my golf bag, right, Like, yeah, he thought he could take out Trump again because they would never show him the polling that showed he was down to Trump. So what else did they keep from him? Finding no evidence of Biden publicly speaking about the executive orders on climate? How are the future sent letters this week too, the DOJ, the EPA, the DOI, the DOE, along with the House and Senate oversight committees, and they're calling for an investigation to determine who made these decisions, who drafted the executive orders, and then who signed them, who used the auto pen which, by the way, given Joe Biden's physical frailty, we have to keep in mind the possibility that he used the autopen, right. I mean that, like I don't know, I don't even know how an autopen works, you know, like how big of a contraption is it? Does it require dexterity or something or is it just like press a button? Because so maybe he just would press the button. Maybe he liked pressing the button. Maybe that's why we ended up with so many executive orders. They just kept putting stuff in front of me. He's like, ah, this is fun. Oh look at that. Oh doubt Oh press it again. Oh look at that. So that's possible. The presidential auto pen has been a topic of conversation with Republicans in recent weeks and months, as questions continue about Biden's mental acuity during his presidency, particularly the last few years. By the way, this again from Fox News. An autopen is a device that physically holds a pen and is programmed to replicate a person's signature. The Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel determined in two thousand and five that the president is allowed to use an auto pen to sign bills into law, and the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit issued a ruling in February that said the absence of a quote writing does not equate to proof that a commutation did not occur. Right, So there was this lawsuit over you know, did you have to you have to write on it for to be real, for it to be binding. This a commutation was the point of conflict here, and the Court of Appeal said, auto pen's fine, right, But I think the idea is that the president is using it right, or at least is aware that it's being used. In March, Trump claimed that Biden's pardons of lawmakers who served on the House Select Committee to investigate J six and others are void, alleging they had been signed via an autopen and that Biden did not even know about them. Despite Trump's concerns over the validity of the Biden pardons due to the alleged use of an autopen, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley says that the odds of successfully legally challenging them in court are vanishingly low. And to be clear, that's not what I'm arguing. Doesn't matter to me about the legality of the autopen. I want to know who autopenned every one of those executive actions, all of them. Presidents are allowed to use the autopen, and courts will not presume a dead hand conspiracy. Turly said, right, but what if there is evidence of a conspiracy? Because there is evidence of a conspiracy here, what then? Turley? All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. 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