Report: FBI ran a honey trap before Crossfire Hurricane (10-31-2024--Hour2)
The Pete Kaliner ShowOctober 31, 202400:31:0728.53 MB

Report: FBI ran a honey trap before Crossfire Hurricane (10-31-2024--Hour2)

This episode is presented by Create A Video – The Washington Times reports that a Congressional investigation is now underway after a whistleblower said the FBI ran a secret investigation into Donald Trump before it launched the corrupt and discredited Crossfire Hurricane probe.

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[00:00:28] So what if I told you that Crossfire Hurricane, remember that? The discredited and corrupt investigation into Donald Trump based on the Steele dossier, which itself was a corrupt and discredited opposition research hit piece paid for by the Clinton campaign delivered to the FBI in order to influence the election.

[00:00:56] What if I told you that Crossfire Hurricane was not the first investigation into Donald Trump? There was one before it. And it has not been reported yet. Well, it wasn't reported yet. It wasn't known until.

[00:01:20] Until. Like. The day before yesterday, a whistleblower has come forward inside the DOJ. And now the House Judiciary Committee.

[00:01:35] is examining this report that the whistleblower provided. That the FBI targeted Donald Trump right after he announced his presidential campaign in June of 2015.

[00:01:49] And that this investigation was an off-the-books operation that was ordered by the FBI director, James Comey.

[00:01:59] And this predated the Crossfire Hurricane operation. An FBI agent involved in the probe revealed the off-the-books criminal investigation Tuesday in a protected disclosure sent to the committee.

[00:02:19] I don't know why it's taken this long.

[00:02:50] On the trail.

[00:02:53] On the trail. Honeypots.

[00:02:55] Because Donald Trump is known to like honey.

[00:03:01] So this is, in case you aren't aware of what a honeypot or a honey trap is,

[00:03:08] it is the creation of a romantic relationship or a sexual relationship in order to compromise a target.

[00:03:17] You know, like what the Chinese did to Eric Swalwell.

[00:03:22] Okay.

[00:03:25] Okay. All right. Sorry.

[00:03:27] How about what the Chinese did to Tim Walz?

[00:03:30] Like that?

[00:03:31] No. Okay.

[00:03:34] All right. It's using, in this case, female agents.

[00:03:38] In order to get information and to compromise a target.

[00:03:43] And so they put two of these agents into the F or into the Trump campaign.

[00:03:49] Where they, I guess, will sleep with members of the Trump campaign in order to compromise them and to get information.

[00:04:00] Why would you do this?

[00:04:03] Like why, just step back and just forget for a moment everything that we have, you know, learned over the last seven years.

[00:04:10] But Donald Trump comes down the golden escalator, right?

[00:04:16] As soon as he makes the announcement, you put these agents into his campaign.

[00:04:22] Why would you do that?

[00:04:24] What about his launch makes you decide to do that?

[00:04:31] So maybe it's because, like, they had some knowledge about Donald Trump beforehand or something.

[00:04:38] They had misgivings or whatever.

[00:04:40] But why would you do that, especially when he announced?

[00:04:43] Remember at the time, nobody thought he had a chance of winning.

[00:04:47] Remember, people were hoping, Democrats were hoping that he would be the nominee.

[00:04:51] They helped promote him, right?

[00:04:52] They put him on their shows all the time.

[00:04:54] Morning Joe was basically turned over to Donald Trump so he could possibly get the nomination.

[00:05:01] That's what they wanted, remember?

[00:05:03] Because they thought he'd be easy to beat.

[00:05:05] Careful what you wish for.

[00:05:09] They put these agents in place because they wanted to get intel on him.

[00:05:15] Was that something just against him?

[00:05:17] Or is it possible?

[00:05:19] And I'm just spitballing here.

[00:05:21] I'm just a radio host.

[00:05:23] I have no inside information on this at all.

[00:05:25] But I am wondering, are they doing this on every campaign?

[00:05:33] Or did they only do it on his campaign?

[00:05:36] Was there something unique about Donald Trump?

[00:05:40] Was it his outsider status?

[00:05:42] Right?

[00:05:43] Was it the fact that he didn't owe anybody anything?

[00:05:46] He was perceived as a threat from the original journey down that escalator?

[00:05:56] I don't know.

[00:05:57] Maybe we'll find out.

[00:05:58] I don't know.

[00:05:59] Maybe there are other investigations.

[00:06:00] Maybe they do this for every campaign, which is actually kind of terrifying, if you think about it.

[00:06:04] Right?

[00:06:05] That the DOJ, the FBI, is sticking what could in some ways be considered prostitutes into the campaigns of presidential candidates.

[00:06:19] All of them?

[00:06:20] Not sure.

[00:06:22] Right?

[00:06:24] Do you think they put these honey traps in the Clinton campaign?

[00:06:31] I'm just going to let that sit for a moment while we all...

[00:06:35] Yeah.

[00:06:36] Okay, never mind.

[00:06:37] Sorry.

[00:06:37] So, like, I don't know.

[00:06:40] They probably got everything they need to compromise the Clintons, whether it's Bill with his zipper issues or it's the Clinton Global Initiative or the smashing of the phones and wiping with the cloth and the servers and all of that stuff.

[00:06:55] I don't know.

[00:06:56] So, um, the agent, the whistleblower agent, said that they personally knew Mr. Comey ordered an FBI investigation against Trump and that Comey, quote, personally directed it.

[00:07:13] The off-the-books investigation did not appear to target a specific crime, but was more of what agents would describe as a fishing expedition to find something incriminating about Mr. Trump.

[00:07:31] If that's the actual explanation here, that's the rationale, then I have to believe that they are amassing these kinds of dossiers and or running these kinds of traps on every candidate, probably at every level.

[00:07:52] Do you think Senate foreign intelligence members, do you think they're not going to... do you think they're immune from this kind of a thing?

[00:07:59] See, because if you can get the compromising material, if you can get that on the people that are ostensibly elected and then put onto these committees to oversee you, right, to provide oversight for these agencies, if you can get compromising material on them, then you're kneecapping them, right?

[00:08:28] Then you'll have them do whatever you want them to do.

[00:08:31] And they're not actually providing oversight.

[00:08:35] Why would they only do it to Trump?

[00:08:39] Also, if Trump has all of this stuff in his past, all of these shady dealings, all of the stuff that the left and the media, but I repeat myself, has been promising for all these years, we're going to take them down with this stuff, right?

[00:08:53] If all of that was true, why wouldn't the DOJ have had all of that stuff to begin with and just use that?

[00:08:59] Why did they have to insert honey traps into the campaign?

[00:09:04] Why would you do that?

[00:09:06] What's the explanation?

[00:09:07] See, I'm a why guy.

[00:09:08] I like to ask the why question.

[00:09:11] Who, what, where, when, those are all important too.

[00:09:15] But the why to me is, that to me is the most instructive.

[00:09:22] So what about Donald Trump?

[00:09:24] Why Donald Trump?

[00:09:25] Why do this immediately after he announces?

[00:09:29] I have to assume then that you don't have compromising material on Trump.

[00:09:34] So now you got to get some.

[00:09:36] So they insert these two honey pots or honey traps, these two agents.

[00:09:41] You know who one of them was?

[00:09:44] Well, we know who one was.

[00:09:45] We don't know who the other was, but I think some people do.

[00:09:49] Maybe we'll find out.

[00:09:50] But we know one of them targeted George Papadopoulos.

[00:09:57] That was one of the honey pots.

[00:09:59] Went after Webster's dad.

[00:10:02] Yep.

[00:10:04] Sorry, different George Papadopoulos.

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[00:11:09] Here is a Pete tweet at Pete Callender from Gary who says,

[00:11:14] Madison Cawthorn did say that people would not believe the parties and debauchery in D.C.

[00:11:21] The FBI has dirt on all politicians and Trump wasn't a politician.

[00:11:26] J. Edgar Hoover had files on all of the Kennedys.

[00:11:31] That is known.

[00:11:32] Trump said on the Joe Rogan show that it's harder to bring in people that aren't politicians because you never know what comes out of their closet.

[00:11:41] Right.

[00:11:41] This is the wild card.

[00:11:45] And I've said this before about like Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson.

[00:11:49] One of the issues with him and his meteoric rise in politics was that nobody knew him before.

[00:11:57] And so when the stories come out, whether they're true or not, people don't know him.

[00:12:02] They don't know what to believe.

[00:12:04] And so in that regard, it becomes easier to destroy somebody with fake stories because you don't have a bunch of people around you in these positions of power to say,

[00:12:17] no, I've known this guy for 30 years that he doesn't do that.

[00:12:21] That's not him or whatever.

[00:12:22] Oh, here we go.

[00:12:23] PD call.

[00:12:24] Joanne, welcome to the show.

[00:12:27] Thanks.

[00:12:28] You're talking about Mark Robinson.

[00:12:29] Listen, I was in Minnesota when the Democrats did the exact same thing to John Gronseth against Rudy Perpich.

[00:12:36] They claimed he had touched some girl a long time ago.

[00:12:39] I would say that the Mark Robinson thing is the same thing.

[00:12:42] They're copying their old plague book from Minnesota.

[00:12:44] Yeah.

[00:12:45] I mean, it's possible.

[00:12:45] And because he came out of nowhere and nobody knows really much about his background and his history and who he was 20 years ago,

[00:12:53] it's difficult to prove the negative.

[00:12:57] Yeah.

[00:12:57] But you can this time because look at what he's done as opposed to what they're doing.

[00:13:03] He went and helped the people in Appalachia immediately.

[00:13:08] He raised 500,000 pounds worth of supplies and got them there.

[00:13:15] He got them organized.

[00:13:16] That doesn't prove that.

[00:13:18] But that doesn't disprove the allegations.

[00:13:22] Yeah, but the allegations were stupid.

[00:13:24] Well, I mean, that's fine.

[00:13:26] Eleven years later, you remember that you walked into a porn shop and saw him?

[00:13:30] Come on.

[00:13:31] That's crazy.

[00:13:32] That wasn't the nature of all of the allegations, even the one about the porn shop.

[00:13:36] No, but it was some of them.

[00:13:36] No, I mean, the porn shop wasn't that he just walked in there like one time or something.

[00:13:40] It was the first story.

[00:13:42] And I've spent hours dissecting these stories.

[00:13:45] I don't know what's true.

[00:13:47] Okay.

[00:13:48] Well, remember what Pelosi said.

[00:13:50] That's how they do their...

[00:13:50] I understand.

[00:13:52] Anyway, I would assume, given what I've seen of Mark Robinson since, what, four years ago?

[00:13:58] Well, the guy has never, ever done anything like that now.

[00:14:02] Maybe he was a pervert back then.

[00:14:04] I don't know.

[00:14:05] He's not now.

[00:14:06] That's what counts.

[00:14:08] Now, changing the subject.

[00:14:10] Sure, why not?

[00:14:10] FEMA has not paid the line workers in our mountains for eight weeks.

[00:14:15] They're on strike.

[00:14:17] Our people need electricity.

[00:14:18] Somebody needs to clobber FEMA and get them to pay them.

[00:14:22] So, the last numbers I saw on the power outages, it was somewhere down around, I think it was fewer than 5,000 at this point.

[00:14:30] And I think they're mainly located, I want to say, in Yancey County, where the remaining outages.

[00:14:36] And this is classic FEMA.

[00:14:37] They take forever to pay the reimbursements for the work that's done.

[00:14:45] And there are some of these contractors and stuff that they'll never do work for FEMA again.

[00:14:51] They'll never come in and do that stuff because it takes six months to a year to get paid.

[00:14:57] Well, that's crazy, and we need to stop it.

[00:14:59] Yeah.

[00:15:00] No, I...

[00:15:00] You're the one that has the voice.

[00:15:02] I don't.

[00:15:02] I just don't on the phone.

[00:15:03] How exactly do I stop FEMA from doing that?

[00:15:07] You just keep talking about it, and the other people do, too.

[00:15:10] Eventually, hopefully, and...

[00:15:14] So, I will tell you...

[00:15:15] The Republican rather than Democrat.

[00:15:17] Joanne, I'll tell you...

[00:15:17] So, here's a secret.

[00:15:20] One person on the radio cannot actually change that.

[00:15:23] What the person on the radio can do is, like I've just done with you, is talk about the topic, which, by the way, I have talked about before.

[00:15:30] And then there has to be a groundswell of public opinion against this particular issue or for a particular issue.

[00:15:39] And then you've got to get lawmakers to move on the issue.

[00:15:45] And I can assure you that there are lawmakers that are already aware of the failures of FEMA on this and on other things.

[00:15:55] Yeah, I know.

[00:15:56] But, no, like this idea that, like, I somehow am going to be able to make FEMA pay their bills earlier, I don't think that's reality.

[00:16:06] Not now, but it will be.

[00:16:08] And why are they building three bases in the mountains rather than helping people?

[00:16:12] This I don't understand.

[00:16:13] I realize they need to put their people someplace, but they're not going to bring in, what, 2,100 people immediately to help when we're already doing most of the work anyway?

[00:16:26] So are you saying that you, well, the federal government, are you talking about these, the FEMA resource centers and stuff that they're constructing?

[00:16:35] Right.

[00:16:36] They're building three of them.

[00:16:37] They are supposed to hold 700 people each.

[00:16:41] For, like, long-term or for staff?

[00:16:43] For long-term housing, for flood victims, or for their staff?

[00:16:48] This is supposed to be for their staff, but there's not going to be anything for them to do because we'll have it all done.

[00:16:53] Well, maybe.

[00:16:54] I mean, that might happen.

[00:16:56] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:16:57] Why waste all the money?

[00:16:58] Just send them in with a couple of trailers and be done with it.

[00:17:03] So send FEMA in with a couple of trailers for...

[00:17:07] They can hold their people in trailers.

[00:17:09] They can rent them.

[00:17:10] All right, so, Joanne, let me ask you, what are you wanting FEMA to do?

[00:17:15] Do you want them to do more?

[00:17:17] Right now, nothing, because they're a bunch of jerks.

[00:17:18] Right, all right.

[00:17:18] So if you don't want them to do anything, then why would you want them to have anything?

[00:17:23] That's what I don't understand.

[00:17:24] Like, I don't think FEMA does a good job on any of this stuff, so I'd prefer they don't do anything, not even bring the trailers.

[00:17:29] Just write checks and get out of here.

[00:17:31] Email from Seth, who says,

[00:17:33] Pete, wouldn't it be something if it turned out that Stormy Daniels was one of the honeypot traps?

[00:17:39] That's...

[00:17:40] Who knows?

[00:17:41] No, actually, I don't think it's her.

[00:17:42] So the whistleblower that came forward and issued a...

[00:17:50] Or signed off on a report that went to the House Judiciary Committee that's now examining this allegation that the FBI had targeted Donald Trump right after he announced his campaign back in 2015.

[00:18:02] And this was an off-the-books operation.

[00:18:05] This was not Crossfire Hurricane.

[00:18:07] This was before Crossfire Hurricane was launched.

[00:18:11] And that this secret investigation was run directly by Jim Comey.

[00:18:17] The whistleblower said that the undercover operation was hidden from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who, you'll recall, investigated misconduct in the FBI probe of the Trump campaign.

[00:18:35] So Horowitz didn't even know about this.

[00:18:37] The IG.

[00:18:38] Washington Times goes on to report, former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker from Charlotte said the report, if true, is a, quote, booming, egregious violation of the rules governing the Attorney General and the FBI.

[00:18:56] Quote, it's an unpredicated infiltration of a presidential campaign which is sensitive.

[00:19:02] It's sensitive to the point where it would have to have been approved by the Attorney General and would have to be predicated.

[00:19:11] In other words, based on something, right?

[00:19:14] And in this case, he says, I'm not hearing any predication.

[00:19:18] It would have to be on the books anyway, regardless.

[00:19:22] Which it was not.

[00:19:25] Trump launched his campaign on June 16th, 2015.

[00:19:30] About a year before the FBI opened the Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence probe.

[00:19:40] Again, I have no information regarding this.

[00:19:43] I'm just spitballing here as a lowly little radio host.

[00:19:46] But if it took a year for them to launch Crossfire Hurricane, is it possible that the reason why they launched it, based on the discredited Steele dossier, is it possible that that was done a year later because they were unable to get anything out of the honey trap?

[00:20:12] That they didn't catch anything?

[00:20:15] So they spent a lot of time with the honey trap and they tried to get compromising material.

[00:20:19] They tried to get targets compromised and they were unsuccessful.

[00:20:26] And so then they moved to Plan B, which was Crossfire Hurricane.

[00:20:29] Might that have occurred?

[00:20:30] Could that have been it?

[00:20:33] The earlier off the books investigation, according to the whistleblower, quote, had no predicated foundation.

[00:20:41] So Comey personally directed the investigation without creating an official case file in Sentinel or any other FBI system.

[00:20:52] So I don't know what Sentinel is, but I assume it is some sort of a database for their files.

[00:21:00] Right.

[00:21:00] Where you'd be able to put somebody's name in and find out, you know, whether or not.

[00:21:06] There is a probe into them and, you know, it sort of streamlines it, like creates the paper trail or something.

[00:21:11] The disclosure from the whistleblower said Deputy Director Dave Bodich and Paul Abadi, Assistant Director in Charge of the Washington Field Office, were also involved in helping Comey execute this secret probe.

[00:21:31] Ew.

[00:21:32] The undercover honeypot agents targeted Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, according to the whistleblower.

[00:21:40] Mr. Papadopoulos, you'll recall, pleaded guilty to a felony charge of making false statements to the FBI in October of 2017 about his contacts related to U.S.-Russia relations.

[00:21:55] Trump pardoned Papadopoulos in 2020, two years after he had served 12 days in federal prison and put on a one-year supervised release.

[00:22:08] I have not seen Papadopoulos, a response from him to this story.

[00:22:14] But Papadopoulos has said in the past that he was targeted by an undercover agent, this woman, and he knew that at the time.

[00:22:25] He could tell that something was wrong with what this woman was trying to, you know, get out of him and was trying to, information she was trying to get or plant and that sort of stuff.

[00:22:36] Justice Department documents that were declassified in April of 2020 reveal that the FBI agent Curtis Haidt was the handler for a confidential human source who recorded Papadopoulos.

[00:22:52] And in those recordings, Papadopoulos adamantly denied that the Trump campaign was involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee's emails in 2016.

[00:23:05] That was the initial theory of their case, of their investigation, that remember Trump had somehow manipulated or dealt with the Russians.

[00:23:15] And by the way, this is something that like half of Democrats still believe to be true, that the Trump campaign was involved in the hack of the DNC.

[00:23:23] When in fact, it was John Podesta who fell for a phishing scam, which is why I don't click links in emails.

[00:23:33] Right. Podesta got scammed and they got access to all of the DNC emails and stuff.

[00:23:40] And you'll recall when the FBI said, hey, we want to find out how this happened.

[00:23:46] Give us access to your servers and stuff.

[00:23:49] They were like, oh, hell no.

[00:23:51] The DNC was like, no, you can't see any of this stuff.

[00:23:54] They would not allow the FBI to look into their stuff.

[00:23:58] Which is what a totally innocent party does.

[00:24:01] Right.

[00:24:02] Or are you saying that you should not cooperate with the FBI?

[00:24:07] Yeah, don't cooperate with the FBI.

[00:24:09] Just get a lawyer.

[00:24:11] Papadopoulos' denials were then withheld from the FBI's warrant application to the FISA court, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

[00:24:24] So when Papadopoulos was asked whether or not you worked with the Russians to hack the DNC, he said, no, that's crazy.

[00:24:33] We didn't do that.

[00:24:33] The FBI had that information but did not put it in their FISA application.

[00:24:40] Why?

[00:24:41] Well, they wanted to be able to get the warrants so they could spy on the Trump campaign.

[00:24:48] Right.

[00:24:49] Which is exactly what they did against Carter Page.

[00:24:53] Carter Page, another Trump advisor who had traveled to Russia and then the FBI and the Democrats and the media.

[00:25:02] But I repeat myself, they they then said Carter Page was a Russian asset.

[00:25:06] When in fact, it turns out, Carter Page was giving intel to the CIA.

[00:25:11] He would go to Russia.

[00:25:12] He would talk to them and then he would come back and let the CIA know what was going on in case it was helpful to them.

[00:25:18] And when the FBI asked the CIA, hey, is this guy Carter Page one of yours?

[00:25:22] And the CIA said yes.

[00:25:25] And the FBI omitted that from their application because had they included that information in their application, the FISA court would have said, well, he's with the CIA.

[00:25:35] So, no, you can't wiretap him.

[00:25:41] All of this.

[00:25:42] Because Donald Trump posed some sort of a threat.

[00:25:46] To who?

[00:25:48] A year before?

[00:25:50] Crossfire Hurricane.

[00:25:52] Like, what were you afraid of?

[00:25:54] Or was it just a fishing expedition, as the whistleblower says?

[00:25:58] What were you trying to catch?

[00:26:00] I just saw, apparently, you've heard me reference this writer many times on the program.

[00:26:06] Jazz Shaw writes at hotair.com, Salem Media.

[00:26:10] He apparently passed away.

[00:26:14] It's all the information I've got, so that's sad to hear.

[00:26:18] Sorry to hear that.

[00:26:19] He's a great, was a great writer.

[00:26:21] Enjoyed his work.

[00:26:25] At the Washington Times, in a piece by Kerry Pickett, talking about an FBI whistleblower who came forward with information that there was an off-the-books investigation

[00:26:40] prior to Crossfire Hurricane, and that this off-the-books investigation was personally run by Jim Comey,

[00:26:49] along with two of his top guys, Deputy Director Dave Bowditch and Paul Abade,

[00:26:57] who is the Assistant Director in Charge of the Washington Field Office.

[00:27:00] And they put two female agents into the Trump campaign in order to get compromising material in what's called a honeypot or a honey trap.

[00:27:14] Again, a year before Crossfire Hurricane.

[00:27:18] Get this.

[00:27:19] The investigation, the secret one, was closed because a newspaper obtained a photograph of one of the undercover agents and was about to publish it.

[00:27:33] And that's all the information I've got on that.

[00:27:36] The FBI press office, according to the agent's disclosure, then lied to the newspaper and claimed that the photo was of an FBI informant, not an undercover agent.

[00:27:48] They told the newspaper it was an FBI informant and that the informant would be killed if the photograph got published.

[00:27:55] So don't publish that unless you want that undercover informant to die.

[00:28:01] And so the newspaper did not publish it.

[00:28:06] So what newspaper was it?

[00:28:08] I don't know.

[00:28:10] Right?

[00:28:11] Who had the photo?

[00:28:13] And who didn't publish it?

[00:28:16] What was that decision?

[00:28:18] Are they going to publish it now?

[00:28:20] Are they going to do a story about it now?

[00:28:22] I don't know.

[00:28:23] I'm waiting to see if some other news organization comes forward and says, hey, here's a photo.

[00:28:27] This was the honeypot or one of them.

[00:28:32] Also, the FBI employee alleged that one of the undercover agents agreed to be transferred over to the CIA so she would not be available as a potential witness.

[00:28:45] So that's one way to get around getting called as a witness.

[00:28:48] You just transfer them over to the CIA and now you can't call them to testify.

[00:28:53] And another bureau employee involved in the operation was rewarded for her activities with a promotion and now is a high level FBI executive.

[00:29:07] Seems like that should be easy to track down or somewhat easy to track down or track down a bull at least.

[00:29:15] I don't know, people like I.

[00:29:18] The more and more I learn about this stuff, the more and more convinced I am that the FBI just needs to be dismantled.

[00:29:26] It just needs to be stripped down to the studs.

[00:29:29] And maybe even more.

[00:29:31] I mean, I don't know how I don't know if this is the culture that does this does this culture still exist?

[00:29:38] Why wouldn't it?

[00:29:39] Right.

[00:29:39] Why wouldn't it if this is the way they operate, that they're using.

[00:29:44] They're using their powers.

[00:29:46] To plant spies inside of presidential campaigns in order to get compromising material on targets in order to do what exactly with that?

[00:29:57] Like what?

[00:29:58] What is the purpose of that?

[00:30:01] It's so, you know, stuff about your enemies.

[00:30:04] Right.

[00:30:05] It's so you have something to compromise somebody or to exert leverage over them.

[00:30:11] And you're talking about the president of the United States.

[00:30:16] I don't consider myself to be terribly naive on this stuff.

[00:30:22] But at this point, like you're running a domestic spy ring against.

[00:30:28] The American people's surrogates, their elected representatives.

[00:30:33] And.

[00:30:35] Yeah, I don't see how you come back from this.

[00:30:38] All right.

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