Preemptive pardons for pols & perps (12-05-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] Speaking of Hunter Biden, a couple of developments here. Let's start. Well, first off, let me start with Andy McCarthy, former federal prosecutor guy. He expects to see more pardons of Biden family members. And I figured I would bring this, this, these two paragraphs written by Andy McCarthy to you because

[00:00:58] it, it supports what I predicted. And so that it makes me sound like I know what I'm talking about. And so I'm going to bring it to you. So McCarthy says, because of the sweeping pardon, Hunter no longer has a viable Fifth Amendment privilege from self-incrimination.

[00:01:18] Right. When, when, when you get subpoenaed and you get called to testify or you're going to get deposed or you go before a congressional hearing or something and you say, I have been advised by counsel, you know, not to answer any of these questions, to invoke my Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination.

[00:01:38] Because you don't have to self-incrimination. Okay. But if you have immunity from any prosecution, now there isn't any ability to self-incriminate, which means you don't have that protection anymore.

[00:01:57] Because the only reason you would invoke the Fifth Amendment protection is against self-incrimination.

[00:02:02] But that's impossible because nobody can hold you accountable for any wrongdoing you did during the 11 years that Biden's pardon covers.

[00:02:11] So he is immune from prosecution for any further Biden crimes related to influence peddling.

[00:02:21] Hence, he may not refuse to testify if summoned by a grand jury, let's say.

[00:02:28] To answer questions about the potentially criminal activities of other people.

[00:02:32] And if the Trump prosecutors were to conclude that Hunter Biden lied to the grand jury in his testimony, well, then he could still be prosecuted for perjury because a pardon does not cover future crimes like perjury.

[00:02:47] That would be committed after the pardon.

[00:02:50] Right.

[00:02:52] So.

[00:02:54] We talked to Dan Bishop this week, Congressman Dan Bishop, and he said.

[00:02:58] That there is a growing appetite, shall we say, among members of Congress to subpoena Hunter Biden yet again and bring him in and have him answer questions under oath.

[00:03:13] If the DOJ.

[00:03:15] If the DOJ, McCarthy writes, if the DOJ under Donald Trump decides to play the lawfare game that Democrat prosecutors, including the Biden Harris DOJ, played so aggressively against people in Trump world.

[00:03:28] Right.

[00:03:29] Peter Navarro.

[00:03:30] He just got he was in the news.

[00:03:32] Right.

[00:03:33] Trump just picked him for something else.

[00:03:34] I forget what.

[00:03:36] And what did what what did he get convicted on?

[00:03:40] Refusing to comply with a subpoena.

[00:03:44] OK.

[00:03:45] Let's get Hunter Biden back in.

[00:03:48] Prosecutors could subpoena Hunter to a grand jury.

[00:03:50] And tell him to bring every financial and personal record that he has that might be relevant to their inquiry.

[00:03:59] And then grill him about the activities of not just himself for which he has immunity, but also his uncle Jim.

[00:04:08] Jim Biden.

[00:04:10] Their business partners in the Biden brand activities and.

[00:04:16] Joe Biden himself.

[00:04:18] Hunter would have no choice.

[00:04:19] He'd have to testify.

[00:04:21] He could not take the fifth.

[00:04:23] Unless, of course.

[00:04:24] He wants to get charged then with perjury or held in contempt.

[00:04:30] Right.

[00:04:31] And maybe that's the route he goes in order to protect other family members, because, as I said the other day, it's been my belief has been for a while since I read through.

[00:04:42] I read through the testimony of the testimony of the various whistleblowers at the IRS and Tony Bobulinski, one of the former partners.

[00:04:51] That there are multiple members of the Biden family, not just Joe and Jim, but their spouses.

[00:04:58] Although I haven't seen anything with Dr.

[00:05:00] Jill.

[00:05:00] I haven't seen anything there.

[00:05:03] But other members of the Biden family, some of them like Jim's wife, particularly she was she seemed to be the most involved.

[00:05:15] So there's that.

[00:05:16] And that might be also why the Biden White House is looking to preemptively pardon a whole bunch of people.

[00:05:26] So not just pardons for the Biden family, which, look, if you're going to pardon your entire family for participating in the influence peddling racket, alleged, then.

[00:05:40] It would help.

[00:05:41] It would be helpful to pardon a whole bunch of other people.

[00:05:45] And then you could just throw them all into this one big pot and say, oh, it's all preemptive pardoning because we're afraid Donald Trump is going to target them unfairly.

[00:05:55] And I'm reminded there was a there was a case.

[00:06:00] I want to say it was on Long Island when I was growing up, if memory serves, where.

[00:06:05] A bunch of fast food workers in various locations were shot and killed, were murdered overnight.

[00:06:16] These are people that would come in and look, I worked at a Burger King.

[00:06:19] And so, like I know, like there were there was when we closed down the restaurant, there was somebody that would come in and they would do a clean in the restaurant overnight.

[00:06:29] I mean, we would clean first before we closed down, but then they would come in and do do all the floors and they would do a deeper clean on different things.

[00:06:38] And somebody was going around and shot like four or five different overnight workers in different fast food restaurants.

[00:06:51] And they eventually charged somebody and the person only was trying to kill for personal vengeance reasons, one of the victims.

[00:07:05] And they killed the others to make it look like they were targeting random people working at restaurants overnight.

[00:07:15] When in fact, the target was one of those four or five.

[00:07:19] That was it.

[00:07:20] And so this would be sort of the same thing.

[00:07:22] You just give a blanket pardon for all these different people.

[00:07:27] But the real reason is that you're trying to protect yourself and your family.

[00:07:30] So you throw them in the mix.

[00:07:31] Does that make sense?

[00:07:32] It's not it's not a perfect analogy, but I think it makes the point.

[00:07:35] So Politico has a big write up on this, like a 20 minute long piece.

[00:07:42] About Joe Biden's senior aides conducting a vigorous internal debate, not Joe, just his aides.

[00:07:50] OK, just for the record there.

[00:07:53] No, I'm not being mean.

[00:07:54] I'm just like it like they literally say later on the piece that he is not involved.

[00:07:59] Joe is not involved in these deliberations, which really like why should he be like?

[00:08:02] Do you need him?

[00:08:03] Do you really need him to make these decisions?

[00:08:05] I mean, why now?

[00:08:06] You know, but the aides are conducting a vigorous internal debate over whether to issue preemptive pardons to a range of current and former public officials who could be targeted with president elect Donald Trump's return to the White House, according to senior Democrats familiar with the discussions.

[00:08:27] Biden's aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries and even indictments.

[00:08:36] A sense of alarm, a sense of alarm, which has only accelerated since Trump last weekend announced the appointment of Kash Patel to lead the FBI because Patel has publicly vowed to pursue Trump's critics.

[00:08:49] For what?

[00:08:53] For what?

[00:08:56] For what?

[00:08:56] Don't they have to have engaged in some sort of illegal activity?

[00:08:58] Yeah.

[00:08:59] Like that would be why the FBI would open a case against somebody, right?

[00:09:08] I'm assuming we would use the very same standards used to open the cases against all of the Trump campaign people, right?

[00:09:15] And all of his aides and advisors and him.

[00:09:18] So are you saying that's not a good standard that we should be following?

[00:09:23] And by the way, they're talking about Kash Patel and his list of critics.

[00:09:28] These are people he put in his book, Government Gangsters.

[00:09:31] He did a list in the appendix of like 60 what he called deep staters.

[00:09:37] That doesn't mean that he's accusing them of illegal activities.

[00:09:41] Now, maybe some of them have engaged in illegal activities.

[00:09:44] I would focus on them first.

[00:09:45] If you've got information, right?

[00:09:47] Do you have some sort of predicate to go after these people to investigate them?

[00:09:54] Again, I'm just trying to apply a consistent standard for what, you know, the predicate to open an FBI probe.

[00:10:02] That's all.

[00:10:02] And if we're going to use the Trump standard, then I could see why some people in the Biden administration might be worried because they may very well have been engaged in some illegal activity.

[00:10:11] But if they haven't been engaged in illegal activity, then why would they need a pardon?

[00:10:15] Listen, oh, for legal bills.

[00:10:20] They're afraid of the legal bills.

[00:10:25] Was there a concern for the legal bills for people like Mike Flynn?

[00:10:29] He got like wiped out.

[00:10:32] Right.

[00:10:33] Some of Trump world people.

[00:10:35] They lost all of their money trying to defend themselves.

[00:10:39] J6 people.

[00:10:40] Any concern about them or no?

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[00:11:46] Let me go over to the phones and talk with Irene.

[00:11:48] Hello, Irene.

[00:11:50] Hi.

[00:11:50] Hi.

[00:11:51] I just wanted to say that with Kash Patel, I fully support his nomination because I feel like he's the new Elliot Ness from back in the 20s who rooted out corruption of politicians and the police force and everything.

[00:12:10] And that's what the whole purpose of him coming in is to do, is to root out the deep state and everybody who made decisions behind the public's back.

[00:12:21] He might be.

[00:12:23] I don't know.

[00:12:24] I mean, I think that's a tall order to say that he's going to root out all of the corruption in the entire deep state.

[00:12:31] I don't...

[00:12:31] There's a lot of people that work at the federal government.

[00:12:34] So...

[00:12:34] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:35] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:36] But anything is a plus.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:38] I mean, I'm hopeful that he's able to find and root out some of this stuff.

[00:12:45] But we'll see.

[00:12:46] Yeah.

[00:12:46] And the more they complain, he's definitely the best choice.

[00:12:51] No, I hear you.

[00:12:52] Irene, I appreciate the call.

[00:12:53] Thank you.

[00:12:54] Actually, I take that back about all of the people working.

[00:12:59] It turns out only 6% of the federal workforce actually reports in person on a full-time basis.

[00:13:07] 6%.

[00:13:08] Almost a third of federal workers are remote on a full-time basis.

[00:13:15] They are full-time remote.

[00:13:17] 33%.

[00:13:18] That is a sharp turnaround from the pre-pandemic era when only 3% teleworked daily.

[00:13:27] This is according to a report from Senator Joni Ernst's office.

[00:13:31] Ernst, who has long crusaded against the rise in remote federal work, is planning to reveal

[00:13:37] the fruits of her office's year-and-a-half inquiry to Department of Government Efficiency,

[00:13:43] or DOGE, co-heads Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy during their visit to Capitol Hill today.

[00:13:49] The nation's capital is a ghost town, she says, with government buildings averaging an occupancy rate of 12%.

[00:13:56] Ernst wrote in the report, if federal employees can't be found at their desks, exactly where are they?

[00:14:02] Leasing and maintenance costs for federal office buildings, as well as the tab to keep them running,

[00:14:08] is about $15.7 billion annually.

[00:14:11] Meanwhile, the government has ownership of almost 7,700 vacant buildings.

[00:14:18] 7,700 vacant buildings.

[00:14:21] And almost 2,300 that are somewhat empty.

[00:14:25] So we're talking 10,000 buildings that are completely empty or almost empty.

[00:14:29] That's about $15 million for leasing and maintenance of underutilized space.

[00:14:37] Also, she says that a lot of federal workers are cashing in on the higher pay rates from localities

[00:14:44] where they are not actually working.

[00:14:46] So the federal government gives you additional money as part of your salary if you work in a high cost of living area.

[00:14:55] And they base that on where the office is that you're supposed to be reporting to.

[00:15:00] But if you're working from home and you're working like 50 miles away,

[00:15:05] well, you're not in a high cost of living area anymore.

[00:15:08] You're working from home.

[00:15:09] So you shouldn't be getting the additional money because you're not going into that office.

[00:15:14] They're finding that as many as anywhere from 23 to 68 percent.

[00:15:20] 23 to 68 percent of teleworking employees are boosting their salaries and getting incorrect locality pay.

[00:15:30] Oh, man, I cannot wait for Doge.

[00:15:32] Let's see what they can do.

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[00:16:04] Those who could face exposure under a Trump administration to potential investigation.

[00:16:11] Include such members of Congress's January 6th subcommittee like Senator Adam Schiff for brains

[00:16:24] or GOP representative, former GOP representative Liz, Liz Cheney.

[00:16:28] Or how about Adam Kinzinger?

[00:16:30] Right.

[00:16:32] Trump has previously said Cheney, quote, should go to jail along with the rest of the unselect committee

[00:16:38] because it was called the select committee.

[00:16:40] So he called it the unselect.

[00:16:42] Anyway.

[00:16:44] Another name mentioned for a potential sweeping pardon by the Biden administration on the way out the door.

[00:16:49] Preemptive pardon.

[00:16:51] The science.

[00:16:55] Anthony Fauci.

[00:16:58] So this is the Politico report.

[00:17:00] A White House spokesperson declined to comment but did not deny the discussions occurred.

[00:17:06] That the conversations are taking place at all reflects the growing anxieties among high level Democrats

[00:17:13] about just how far Trump's reprisals could go once he reclaims power.

[00:17:19] The remarkable 11 year breadth of Biden's pardon of his son Hunter illustrated how worried the White House is

[00:17:26] about Trump officials seizing.

[00:17:29] There you go.

[00:17:30] Pouncing upon, if you will, any potential openings for prosecution.

[00:17:35] Well, so, OK, hang on a second.

[00:17:37] A potential opening for prosecution, which would mean that there's a potential crime that occurred

[00:17:43] that would potentially warrant an investigation, which could then potentially lead to charges and prosecution.

[00:17:51] That's what potential openings for prosecution would be.

[00:17:54] Much like, oh, I don't know, shuffling around some paperwork and getting 34 felonies slapped on you for it.

[00:18:04] Something like that.

[00:18:04] Maybe.

[00:18:05] Like that kind of a potential opening for prosecution.

[00:18:09] See, here's the thing.

[00:18:11] Consistent application of standards.

[00:18:13] You don't get to engage in a behavior and then cry when that behavior.

[00:18:19] Is then directed towards you.

[00:18:22] For starters.

[00:18:24] But also.

[00:18:26] Preemptive pardons on people that haven't done anything illegal.

[00:18:31] I like just because Donald Trump says, oh, we should go after those members on the unselect committee.

[00:18:37] That doesn't mean they've done anything illegal.

[00:18:39] They may have.

[00:18:40] But I don't know that they did.

[00:18:43] Not every single member.

[00:18:44] I don't know.

[00:18:45] Why would you preemptively pardon people just to avoid any kind of an investigation whatsoever?

[00:18:51] Well, what if they actually did commit crimes?

[00:18:55] And you've just pardoned them.

[00:18:57] And you didn't know that they committed crimes.

[00:18:59] Like what if they were doing stuff on the side?

[00:19:01] You know?

[00:19:01] What if they were engaged?

[00:19:03] I don't know.

[00:19:04] Let's say they were hiring hookers.

[00:19:08] And then videotaping.

[00:19:10] Okay.

[00:19:10] Bad example.

[00:19:11] Let's say.

[00:19:13] Yeah.

[00:19:13] Let's just say that they were.

[00:19:15] I don't know.

[00:19:16] Murdering people.

[00:19:18] On the side.

[00:19:20] Or they were embezzling a bunch of money.

[00:19:23] Something like that.

[00:19:24] And now you've just given them pardons.

[00:19:27] We don't know that.

[00:19:29] Like.

[00:19:29] So what?

[00:19:30] You gave them a pardon for like 11 years?

[00:19:32] Like Biden?

[00:19:33] Well, they probably wouldn't get a full 11 years.

[00:19:34] They may just get four years or five.

[00:19:36] Or maybe you'd have to go back to the original Trump term.

[00:19:39] So maybe you got to go back eight years, nine years or something.

[00:19:42] Well, we'll just call it a decade.

[00:19:44] So you're going to go back a decade and say anything that you did, you're preemptively pardoned.

[00:19:48] Can't be charged with any wrongdoing for the last decade.

[00:19:51] Okay.

[00:19:53] And then when it turns out that somebody did in fact engage in some pretty heinous activities before they even say arrived to Congress.

[00:20:02] But you gave them a pardon.

[00:20:03] And so now they get off scot-free?

[00:20:07] This is a bad idea.

[00:20:08] Well, for a number of reasons.

[00:20:09] It's a very bad idea.

[00:20:11] Representative Brendan Boyle, a close Biden ally who hosted the president in his district shortly before the election, issued a plea yesterday for Biden to offer blanket pardons, saying, quote,

[00:20:28] This is no hypothetical threat.

[00:20:30] The time for cautious restraint is over.

[00:20:33] Oh, is that what we were?

[00:20:34] Is that what we witnessed?

[00:20:35] Cautious restraint?

[00:20:37] Oh, my gosh.

[00:20:39] You guys could be monsters then.

[00:20:41] Anyway, we must act with urgency to push back against these threats and prevent Trump from abusing his power by abusing power.

[00:20:48] Okay.

[00:20:49] I threw that last part in there.

[00:20:51] It says we have to push back against threats and prevent Trump from abusing his power by abusing power because that's what you're doing.

[00:21:01] You're abusing the pardon in order to protect people who very well may have done some illegal activity.

[00:21:08] For example, like perjury.

[00:21:12] How about that?

[00:21:13] What about lying about, say, the launch of the Russiagate hoax?

[00:21:22] How about that?

[00:21:25] I would urge the president not to do it.

[00:21:28] Said Schiff.

[00:21:31] Adam Schiff, of all people, said, I think it would seem defensive and unnecessary.

[00:21:37] Cheney and Fauci have not responded to requests for comment by Politico.

[00:21:41] What has some Biden aides particularly concerned is that even the threat of retaliation could prove costly to individuals because they would be forced to hire high priced lawyers to defend themselves in any potential investigation.

[00:21:55] Like Trump had to do.

[00:21:57] Right.

[00:21:58] Isn't that what you force Trump to do?

[00:22:00] Wasn't that the point?

[00:22:01] Isn't that the point to bankrupt the man, destroy him, take all of his money, take his properties, take his businesses?

[00:22:08] Right.

[00:22:08] Wasn't that the whole point?

[00:22:10] Didn't some of you guys run on this very promise?

[00:22:19] Then there is this regarding the pardon that Hunter Biden got.

[00:22:24] The judge that oversaw Hunter Biden's federal tax case ripped Biden over the statement that the president put out along with the pardon.

[00:22:37] U.S. District Judge Mark Scarcy issued a five page order Tuesday condemning the president's rationale for the full pardon for the tax and gun charges.

[00:22:48] Hunter Biden was set to be sentenced over for this month.

[00:22:51] In the court filing, Scarcy referenced Biden's assertion that, quote, no reasonable person reviewing the cases would dispute that he was singled out only because he is my son.

[00:23:02] That's what Joe Biden wrote.

[00:23:04] Scarcy rejected the president's argument that Biden was treated differently from others who pay taxes late due to drug addiction, noting that the president's son continued to evade taxes after he got sober.

[00:23:18] Quote, the president's son, the president's son, the president, and the president's son.

[00:23:23] Department of Justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges.

[00:23:28] In the president's estimation, this legion of federal civil servants, the undersigned included, including himself, the judge, are unreasonable people.

[00:23:38] In short, a press release is not a pardon.

[00:23:42] The Constitution provides the president with broad authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States.

[00:23:50] But nowhere does the Constitution give the president the authority to rewrite history, said the judge.

[00:24:00] I did not predict that Joe Biden's legacy would be so torched that now I'm seeing like they're going to have trouble fundraising for his presidential library.

[00:24:14] It's that bad.

[00:24:16] David Harsani over at the Washington Examiner, he agrees with President Joe Biden that Hunter Biden was, in fact, singled out for special treatment.

[00:24:28] Like if Hunter had a different last name, for example, he would have never been able to launch a career in corrupt influence peddling or launder millions through his, quote, art.

[00:24:38] But also failing to register as a foreign agent.

[00:24:43] Or avoiding paying millions in taxes that flowed from those foreign arrangements.

[00:24:49] If Hunter had been treated like anybody else, the DOJ wouldn't have tried to give him blanket immunity, not only on the gun and tax charges, but on a slew of uninvestigated potential offenses, including bribery and corruption.

[00:25:03] So, yes, Hunter Biden did get different treatment than most Americans.

[00:25:10] If it hadn't been for a principal judge named Mary Ellen Noreka asking the government's so-called prosecutors if they could provide a single precedent in which immunity was offered to a person for, quote, crimes in a different case.

[00:25:26] As part of that gun plea agreement, Hunter Biden would have walked last year.

[00:25:31] The DOJ was trying to pardon Hunter Biden long before Trump won the presidency.

[00:25:37] Then again, if it wasn't for the congressional testimony of Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, the IRS whistleblowers, it's highly unlikely Hunter Biden would have ever been charged even with those two piddling misdemeanor counts.

[00:25:51] Because for four years, Merrick Garland and the DOJ acted as the Praetorian Guard of the Biden crime syndicate, doing everything possible to keep Hunter Biden out of a courtroom and then dragging their feet to ensure that the statute of limitations on the most serious potential crimes ran out.

[00:26:12] Arsani goes on to say that the pardon letter itself is also a lie.

[00:26:17] Any genuine investigation into the family's $17 million foreign influence peddling business would necessitate deposing the president of the United States and compelling him to answer numerous difficult questions about his connections to these disreputable authoritarian regimes.

[00:26:38] But being a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory, right?

[00:26:45] Only gets you so far.

[00:26:46] Hunter Biden's laptop, despite the efforts to censor it by the social media platforms and the media, the laptop was real.

[00:26:58] It was filled with messages referencing his father's role in securing the money and taking cuts from the business, not to mention the witnesses who said that the big guy, quote unquote, had a part in that outfit or the checks referring to Joe Biden.

[00:27:17] All of this was known.

[00:27:18] See, people think that, oh, the Hunter Biden laptop, that was all just done to humiliate him.

[00:27:24] Oh, because he was naked on the pictures on the laptop and him smoking crack and you're just, you know, abusing him to get at his dad and all this.

[00:27:32] It was never about the pictures.

[00:27:34] It was never about that stuff.

[00:27:35] It wasn't about the hookers and blow.

[00:27:37] It wasn't.

[00:27:37] Not for me, at least.

[00:27:40] I know some people spread those images around and were using it in those ways.

[00:27:44] Sure.

[00:27:44] That's what people do.

[00:27:46] But the problem was that the laptop contained information that indicated that this might have compromised our president.

[00:27:57] And could have dated back to when he was vice president.

[00:28:01] But that's the problem.

[00:28:03] It was always the problem.

[00:28:06] If Hunter had not been treated differently by the government, he would have had to answer for the 20 plus shell companies that he had set up with his own.

[00:28:16] His uncle James Biden with old uncle Jim.

[00:28:21] In May, when the lawfare against Trump was heating up, Joe Biden claimed that no one is above the law.

[00:28:26] And this is not true.

[00:28:27] James Clapper, a bunch of FBI agents, the generals who made secret calls to our enemies to go around Trump.

[00:28:34] John Brennan, Eric Holder, Black Lives Matter protesters and rioters.

[00:28:37] There are a bunch of people that are above the law.

[00:28:40] Obviously.

[00:28:41] Obviously.

[00:28:42] All right.

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