Planned Parenthood sued for rushing teens into gender transition (08-19-2024--Hour2)
The Pete Kaliner ShowAugust 19, 202400:32:1329.55 MB

Planned Parenthood sued for rushing teens into gender transition (08-19-2024--Hour2)

Multiple lawsuits have been filed against Planned Parenthood for prescribing puberty blockers to young teens who were suffering from other underlying mental health issues. 

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[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to 3 on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, go to thepetekalendershow.com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button, get every episode for free, right to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for your support.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw, it's hilarious. I saw a picture of downtown Chicago near the convention site and businesses have been boarding up in advance of the convention. I don't know why. I don't know why. But here's the thing. There is a stamp that's on the plywood board, you know, or the particle board, whatever.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a big red, you know, stamp that they put on the board advertising the company that puts the boards on your shopfronts for you. And the stamp on it says something like, Chicago's original board up company or something.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and somebody pointed out, I forget who it was, but think about what that indicates.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That first off, not only is there a company that you can hire that obviously has enough of a demand where a company would be able to survive by going in and boarding up businesses ahead of protests, right?

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That first off, you would have a business to be able to do that, right?

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But then what does the stamp say? The original.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So there are competitors, right?

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: There are multiple companies out there that you have now branded yourself as, and I don't know if this company is the original or what,

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: but the fact that you're trying to get your unique value proposition as like this, oh, our legacy here, we have the most experience, we're the oldest boarding up company out there.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They probably do some other work too on, you know, different kinds of board up jobs, you know.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what those might be, but I'm sure there are other types of board up work that probably, you know, keeps them in business until the next fiery but mostly peaceful protest or something.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But you have such a demand for these services that you've got competitors in the market.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And one is trying to position themselves as the original in Chicago.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty amazing.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I did have some other stuff here.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't finish all of the audio from the first hour.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: People are, I don't know if it's true.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to keep saying this because I don't know if this is true.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: All I am telling you is that there are rumors swirling and now Newsweek picked up the story about the rumors being promoted.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's true, but there are people that are trying to promote this narrative that Kamala Harris is a day drinker.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That she's, she gets a little tipsy on the wine.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And that people in her orbit, her aides and stuff, that they're always managing her and they don't, whatever.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's true.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But I have some audio clips.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I played one earlier.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: How else would you explain, for example, this clip?

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what our election is about.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Our election is about understanding the importance of this beautiful country of ours in terms of what we stand for around the globe as a democracy.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: As a democracy, we know there's a duality to the nature of democracy.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: On the one hand, incredible strength when it is intact.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: What it does for its people to protect and defend their rights, their liberty, and their freedom.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Incredibly strong.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And incredibly fragile.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's deep, yo.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That's so deep.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She also has one on the return on investment.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody asked her how she's going to pay for all of her economic plan.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You unveiled your economic policies last week.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you explain how you're going to pay for those?

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And can you give us a sense of what other policies we want to unveil?

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you just look at it in terms of what we are talking about, for example, around children.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And the child tax credit and extending the EITC.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That is at $6,000 for the first year of a child's life.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The return on that investment in terms of what that will do and what it will pay for will be tremendous.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it when we did it the first year of our administration.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We reduced child poverty by over 50 percent.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a lot of the work.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits, we know that there's a great return on investment.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: When we increase homeownership in America, what that means in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention property tax base, what that does to fund schools.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, return on investment.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a mistake for any person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate how you measure the return on investment.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: When you are strengthening neighborhoods, strengthening communities, and in particular the economy of those communities, and investing in a broad-based economy, everybody benefits.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And it pays for itself.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It pays for itself, she says.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It pays for itself.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: She said return on investment, I think, four times during that one-minute answer.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And you'll note she did not actually answer the question.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you pay for it?

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It pays for itself.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, return on investment or something.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's true.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: True.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it would kind of explain some stuff.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So Planned Parenthood's offering the free vasectomies.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and the people that were calling J.D. Vance weird, they're dressed up as pills.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Big round.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They got big, round, white costumes.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're parading through the streets as abortion drugs.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're saying J.D. Vance is the weird one.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I, look, I don't know if I'm going to watch.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I will probably watch.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking I might not watch the Democrat convention tonight.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I might have it on, put it on C-SPAN, just have it going in the background.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Just to see how Joe does.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gosh, I'm not looking forward to listening to Hillary.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I went, it's in a time.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't they retire?

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't they have a beach that they could go to like Joe?

[00:07:21] No.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Then we're going to get Bill Clinton.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how long his speech is going to go this time.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: See, that's going to be a problem, too.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have Barack Obama get up there, and he's probably going to give a pretty good speech.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats are going to love it, you know?

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to really, really love it.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Michelle Obama's going to talk to you.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Not all tonight, just over the next week.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're probably going to really love Michelle Obama's speech.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to bring out, well, yeah, you should probably bring walls.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Make walls talk before Kamala.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: This way, she looks a little bit better.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you put her on right after Obama, like, that might be, that might not be good for her.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to follow him, you know?

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's a good public speaker.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So, he gets the crowd really fired up.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Ready to go.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Fired up.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Ready to go, remember?

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go over here and talk to John.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, John.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Pete.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: How are you, sir?

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm good.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: What's up?

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, great.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I was listening to your show earlier there where you were talking about the Bored Up Company.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: That's actually a pretty much standard thing.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: They offer those franchises across the country.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Their main purpose is, like, post-disaster.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: House fire, hurricanes.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: They come out and board up what's left to secure your house, your valuables, and so forth.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they've got other lines of work that keep them in business between the protesting.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it was certainly mighty convenient, though, and especially there in Chicago that, you know,

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: they were out there.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's great advertising.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're obviously getting good business out of it.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like, for them, like, I don't know what that industry is called, the board-up

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: industry or boarding industry.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So, but they've got to really, they've got to really like it when the Democrats come to

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: town for one of their conventions.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's only every three years.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's pretty much, right, it's pretty much the same as a house fire.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So, there you go.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very similar.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, John, I appreciate the call.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the original boarding up company in Chicago.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be fooled by other imitators.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Russ says, I don't know if I believe Harris is a habitual day drinker, but watching video

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: clips of her sure doesn't help to debunk the theory.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I did not think I would ever support Kamala, but that musical piece has now moved the needle

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: a little for me.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I even felt a little bit of the joy.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it stirs my heart so.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you know that Planned Parenthood is actually one of the country's largest suppliers of testosterone?

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you know that?

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I was not aware of that either until I read this piece by Jennifer Block at the Free Press,

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: the FP.com.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Planned Parenthood was founded a century ago to promote birth control.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Today, it's nearly 600 clinics nationwide make it the largest single provider of abortion,

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: contraception, reproductive care, and sex education.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It has also, in less than a decade, become the country's leading provider of gender transition

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: hormones for young adults.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's according to insurance claim data.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: In 2015, about two dozen of the clinics began offering this service.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's available at about 450 locations.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So, it went from like 24 to 450.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Insurance claim information provided to the Free Press by the Manhattan Institute

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: shows that at least 40,000 patients went to Planned Parenthood for this purpose last year alone.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: A number that has risen by 10.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a tenfold increase since 2017.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The largest portion of the 40,000, about 40% of the 40,000, were 18 to 22-year-olds.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Some clinics offer hormones starting at age 16, with parental approval, of course.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They then go on to tell the story.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, this article at the Free Press is like, I don't know, 12 pages.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very lengthy.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I read it.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I pulled the highlights.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It tells a couple of stories of individuals, one of whom is Christine Heinemann of New York.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And this girl went in there, into a Planned Parenthood clinic in New York,

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and walked out with prescription puberty-blocking drugs after 30 minutes.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In a 30-minute first-time session, she got prescription drugs.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like many others in the rising wave of female teens seeking to masculinize,

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: she had been battling a cluster of mental health problems, self-harm, depression, anxiety.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, like many of these teens, Heinemann has autism.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The COVID lockdown exacerbated her troubles.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: She said, quote, I couldn't see my friends.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't see my girlfriend.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I was depressed and scared.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In my room, just ruminating all the time.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The viral YouTubers that she was watching convinced her that gender was the problem.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my God, trans includes all the things I've been feeling.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: My discomfort with my chest.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: My discomfort with being called young woman.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Not being sure of who I was or what I wanted to be.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this was the answer.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Just over a year into treatment, she realized she had made a terrible mistake.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And gender was not actually the source of her problems.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: She said, quote, I was brainwashed.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people say that adults should be able to do whatever they want.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you have mental illness that's clouding your view,

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or you're so misinformed about what gender dysphoria even means,

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: then you cannot consent to such invasive treatments.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: She went from identifying as non-binary, then to agender.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: All one word.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Agender.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like no gender at all, I guess.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And then to trans.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But now considers herself a detransitioner.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone who, if possible, has returned to living as their birth sex,

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: often with medical side effects.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Today, reported exclusively in the free press,

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: She is now a plaintiff in the first detransitioner lawsuit filed against Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: In the medical malpractice suit filed in April,

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: she's seeking unspecified damages for negligence and failure to obtain informed consent

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: from all the health providers, including those at Planned Parenthood,

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: who facilitated her medical transition.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: From therapists who encouraged her desire to change genders,

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: to the plastic surgeon who removed her breasts after a superficial consult when she turned 19,

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: to the nurse practitioner at Planned Parenthood,

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: who wrote Heinemann the prescription for testosterone.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: She joins more than a dozen young people who,

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: in separate lawsuits across the country,

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: are alleging medical malpractice by institutions,

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: such as Kaiser Permanente,

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: as well as individual practitioners,

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and they are seeking compensation for the harm they claim has been done to them.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a growing list of European countries,

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Sweden, Finland, UK,

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: that are restricting these oftentimes irreversible treatments,

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: quote-unquote treatments,

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: for young people,

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and favoring an approach that encourages therapy instead,

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to address all the causes of a patient's distress.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember,

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I got pushback from a caller who was,

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: who was a lefty,

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: when I said that people who are

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: going through transitions like this,

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that,

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the majority of them have underlying mental health issues,

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and they got all upset when I said that.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not,

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that's not me that's saying that.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't come up with that stat.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's from the science and data,

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to quote Anthony Fauci.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's,

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what the data says.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's those underlying issues

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that then ramp up in puberty.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no other condition

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: or dysphoric belief,

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: right?

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's something that is detached from reality.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I've used this example for a decade now,

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: which is anorexia or bulimia.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: If somebody comes in,

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: or trans ableist,

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody comes in and they say

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that I am obese,

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and you look at them

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and you put them on the scale,

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and you,

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: they're just skin and bones,

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: they weigh 90 pounds,

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're not obese,

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: obviously.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And they say they are obese,

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: they feel like they are obese,

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: their mind is telling them that,

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and I cannot imagine

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: what that must be like,

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: to have your brain telling you something

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that is not true.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not true.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: That is,

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: that is an observable,

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: objective fact.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They are not obese.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And there isn't any professional

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: in that industry,

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: in the mental health industry,

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that would say

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that the correct approach

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: is to say,

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: oh yes,

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: you are obese.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't do it for any other

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of disorder like that.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But this one we do.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: These people need

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: psychological counseling,

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: not medical transition.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what these European countries

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[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: A message from Michael

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: who says,

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: you stated the worst thing

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: about your job,

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: having to listen to Hillary,

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Bill,

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala,

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe,

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: et cetera,

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: has to be just horrible.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for sacrificing

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: for all of us

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: so we don't have to listen to them.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome,

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Michael.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I am a giver.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I always say.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I am a giver.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Carol Roth,

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe she's with the,

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: well,

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: she's an author.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's with the New York Post,

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: but she says that nothing would be funnier

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: than if Joe Biden went full scorched earth tonight

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: during his DNC speech.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be great.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and you,

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you did this to me,

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: just starts like airing the grievances.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They got to come up there

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and like drag them off the podium.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That'd be great.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Make this moment yours,

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Good program.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Wanted to comment on the article

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that you just read

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: regarding family planning.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That is true.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Planned Parenthood started,

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but it began in the early 20th century.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a big movement

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: in Planned Parenthood and hospice

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to eliminate undesirables.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You wanted to go get people,

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: old people,

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: infirmed people with birth problems

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and minorities especially.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And just do away with these groups of people.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: If you look,

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: it's real easy to do the research.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Hospice is one of the major money suckers

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: out of Social Security.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Their main thing is to give people morphine.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They tell the family that

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and then people die.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just something that's gotten a lot of

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: liberal publicity of sounding so great,

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but if you do a little research

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: into what they actually do.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you equating Planned Parenthood with hospice?

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They are familiar and started at the same time.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, in a way I am.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: How?

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: How?

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: When someone is dying,

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: a very painful death,

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: why would you seek to prolong that suffering?

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know which side to take,

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: but if you're going to take the hospice side,

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: they make an awful lot of money

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: eliminating older people.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You generally call hospice,

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: they come in,

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you're gone in a few days

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: because they pay you full of morphine.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They make a huge amount of government money.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're submitting that people go into hospice

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: when they would otherwise not be dying?

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That is correct.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_02]: My mother was in several nursing homes for rehab

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: because she would fall or have a problem.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's just home.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The lady, they have permanent offices.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They tried for 10 years to sign her up for hospice.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We said absolutely not.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: The hospitals,

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Novant and Atria,

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: make an awful lot of money

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: out of that department.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would they kill off all their patients?

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the patients are old,

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so they don't make as much money

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're on Social Security or whatever.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not making the money

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: as if they're on private insurance.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So your contention is that

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the hospitals and the doctors

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and the people working in hospice,

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're just doing it for the money?

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not just doctors,

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's a certain group of people

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that yes, they do.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's easy to look up these amounts of money

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: on the Internet

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_02]: under Social Security and so forth.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Social Security doesn't pay for medical.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be Medicare or Medicaid.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's the same pocket in the government.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not, though.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But so if you're...

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I hear it.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like you're talking about Medicare.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Medicare reimburses somewhere in the neighborhood

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of about 70 cents on the dollar, 70 percent.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a system that's going to go bankrupt.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You are the first person

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I have ever heard disparage hospice.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's brand new information to me.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And with my personal experience with it,

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I would be highly suspicious of the connection there.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Planned Parenthood roots are well documented.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Came out of the progressive era.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And the same thing with the eugenics.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: North Carolina was a big eugenic state.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And when Republicans took over the legislature,

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the things they did was to fund reparations,

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: basically, for people that were victimized

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_00]: by the forced sterilizations and stuff.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: All of that came from that same school of thought,

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that progressive philosophy of the 20s.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: When they started pushing these ideas

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that also, by the way, animated, yes, Hitler.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was the same.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The world was gripped by this idea

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that if we just put the technocrats in charge,

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: then we can manage all of these things

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and we can create perfection.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the, yeah,

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: that is the roots of Planned Parenthood.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: There are comments from Margaret Sanger,

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: its founder, about, you know,

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: eliminating the undesirables.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, I have never,

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: never have I heard anybody talk trash about hospice.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And full disclosure,

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: my wife would go and help people in the hospice.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: She was a volunteer.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And she would go sit with people

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: in their nursing homes and such.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And she was not administering morphine to them.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not a nurse or anything.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But she was just a hospice caregiver.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that the people who have helped us

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: with our loved ones in hospice,

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were amazing.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That's been my experience with them.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And they've only come in

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: when it's been the end of their life.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go to Susan here.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Susan.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Hi there.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Susan.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I'm just kind of upset

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: about the last caller.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Hospice has been in existence

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_03]: for a few hundred years.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It started in England.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And anyway, everybody's, I'm sure, familiar.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Secondly, you're not admitted to hospice

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: until the diagnosis is six months or less.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're not pumping people

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: full of all kinds of things.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But, oh, I'm sorry.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just upset.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, like I said,

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard that argument

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: laid out like that before.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not aware of any information

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to support it.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't square with any of my experience.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You've got it.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just need to make sure

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: what era of progressive is.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: No, they did not come into being

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_03]: in close time, as he reported.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is not true.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you do have, right now,

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: we have examples of countries,

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Canada, for example,

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: that are now doing euthanasia.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: They're putting people to death

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: for mental illness, right?

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: People who are like,

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm depressed.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to live anymore.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they're just letting them

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: kill themselves.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So that is not, right,

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that's not hospice.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That is not hospice at all.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So, like you said,

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: hospice is when people are

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: at the end of their lives,

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: they have a terminal diagnosis,

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: they're dying.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They're dying.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And the point of hospice

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: is to make them as comfortable

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: as possible as they die.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not to withhold care

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: or treatment from them.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not hospice.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No extraordinary measures

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: at that point.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know,

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: keep them as comfortable

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: as possible.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And let them go.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean,

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: that's a pretty,

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I think,

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: good right

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_03]: of self-determination

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: right there.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You know,

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: can't go as far as Canada.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're a little

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: way off the left.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: That's always just

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: a general good rule.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Never go Canada.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Just never go Canada.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Susan,

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the call.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: thank you.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Take care.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Got a message from Jan

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: regarding whether or not

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris is

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or is not a day drinker.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the rumor.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a rumor going around.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The lack of slurring

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: is a hint,

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: so probably not.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: This kind of nonsense

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: is inborn.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I blame her parents.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Too much pot

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: obviously affected them

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: at a genetic level.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: However,

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: however,

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: listening to her speak

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: is enough to make me

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: start drinking this early.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[00:26:56] That's fair.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The,

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: look,

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I get

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: what's going on

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: with this rumor,

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the whole point of it,

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: which is that

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: we have been treated

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to a steady diet of,

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump is literally Hitler,

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: that J.D. Vance is weird,

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: the lies about the sofa,

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: right?

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So,

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: y'all get to spin

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever lies you want

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and promote all of these

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: different lies

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and push them into

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: the public consciousness

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and then say,

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: oh,

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: we're just having a laugh,

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: like the British say,

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: which doesn't make any sense.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But,

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: when the right does it,

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: oh my gosh,

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't,

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: oh,

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: we shouldn't do that.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's beneath us.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it though?

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it?

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: my father was in hospice care

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: for seven months

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and nobody was pumping

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: morphine into him.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I admit,

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I am a bit paranoid

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and I love a good

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theory,

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but that caller

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: hit a new low

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: for moon bats

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: on your show.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that's,

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah,

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: they don't,

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: the morphine is not

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: given to you

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: for anything longer

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: than like,

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: like a couple days.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It was at the very end.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: let me get back

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to this piece here

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: because I will,

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: uh,

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: move on in the next hour.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: this was again

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: at the Free Press

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: piece by Jennifer Block

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: about Planned Parenthood

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: now being sued

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: for its transition

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: quote unquote

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: care.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: it is the country's

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: largest supplier

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of testosterone now,

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: mainly to 18

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: to 22 year olds.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: there's another civil suit

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: against,

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: uh,

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: an affiliate

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: in the Midwest.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh,

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the girl who is suing,

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: uh,

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: they use a fake name

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: for her in this piece,

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Anna.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Anna made an appointment

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: for her 19th birthday

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: at a Planned Parenthood

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: clinic a thousand miles

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: away from the other

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: lawsuit that's up

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: in New York,

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but her experience

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: unfolded so identically

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: it's as if the

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Planned Parenthood

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: clinician was following

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: a script

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and essentially

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: she was.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Planned Parenthood

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: medical guidelines

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: are made by

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the national headquarters.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Anna is now

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: 22 years old.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: She was a tomboy

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: as a kid

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: which led to a lonely

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: adolescence in which

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: she struggled with

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: depression,

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: anxiety,

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: ADHD.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: She hated puberty

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: because she was,

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: getting large breasts.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She was

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: uncomfortable.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: also discovered

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: she's attracted

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: to girls.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: When she started

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: dating,

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: many of the females

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: she was interested in

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: had started to identify

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: as male

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and she describes

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: herself as having

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: been young

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and impressionable.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: None of these

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: distressing side effects

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: were discussed

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: at her first

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Planned Parenthood

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: appointment,

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: but they did give

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: her prescriptions

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: for testosterone.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So their

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: allegation is

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: negligence.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The New York

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: plaintiff,

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Heinemann,

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Christine Heinemann,

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is now 20

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and has had

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: permanent side effects

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: from the testosterone

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: or effects

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: like hair

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_00]: on the backs

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_00]: of her hands

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and the side

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: of her face.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: the double mastectomy

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: is even more

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: difficult.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Her chest

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: is concave,

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: scarred,

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and alternately

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: numb and raw.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't think

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: about breastfeeding

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: when she was

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: seeking to transition

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and now she is

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: haunted by the fact

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: that she'll never

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: be able to.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: For her,

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: the whole project

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: of gender identity

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: was kind of like

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: a punk thing,

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: she says.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But rather than

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: sex,

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: drugs,

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and rock and roll,

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: it was just

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: drugs and surgery.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a medicalized

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: version of

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: normal teen rebellion

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and I got

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: completely sucked

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: into that.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Today,

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the organization

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: serves more than

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: 2 million patients

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: a year and has

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: for decades

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: provided affordable

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: gynecological care

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: for women who

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: can't find it elsewhere.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It has revenues

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of about $2 billion

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: of which $700 million

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: comes from publicly

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: funded programs

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: like Medicaid.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: In 2005,

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: a Northern California

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: affiliate expanded

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that care

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to a pilot program

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: in Santa Cruz

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: intended mainly

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: for male-to-female

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: transsexuals,

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: as they were called

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: at the time.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they saw

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the growth opportunity

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and it has

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: since exploded.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Two physicians

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: expanded access

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to hormonal treatments,

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: started,

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they started

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: advising Planned Parenthood.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Both have advocated

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: against what's

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: derisively known

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: as gatekeeping.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: In other words,

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the requirement

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: for a mental health

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: evaluation

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: before you can

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: undergo any

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: of these types

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: of treatments.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They oppose that.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They call it

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: gatekeeping.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They say you

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: shouldn't have to

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: get any kind

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: of clearance

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: from a psychologist.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: All right,

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that'll do it

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: for this episode.

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