Pete destroys Phillip the Troll (01-22-2025--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] So, hour number three, I'm going to shift gears into Biden's inner circle, protecting a faltering president. Now it can be reported. But Phillip has been calling back because maybe he's been having power outages and so he's been waiting a very long time. So, Phillip, welcome to the program. Hey, how you doing today, sir? I'm all right. I can barely hear you. Are you on speakerphone? No, I'm not on the speakerphone. Can you hear me better now? A little bit, yeah.

[00:00:58] Okay, yeah. Is Trump going to get rid of Obamacare or what's going on, man? I don't think so. Huh? I don't think so. You don't think so? No, I... I thought that was his big promise. Yeah, he promised that for years. Yeah, so what changed? Well, so I'm going to tell you, this is a dirty secret in politics.

[00:01:24] A lot of times, and by a lot, I mean like 99% of the time, politicians make promises and then they don't keep them. Yeah, but what changed about him getting rid of Obamacare? What changed? Well, that was the campaign. And now he's actually in office. So he was never going to get rid of Obamacare. I don't know. I mean, if you ask him, like if he had the ability to do so, I suspect he probably would.

[00:01:53] If he looked at the polling, you know, and his advisors told him that it would be a good thing for him to do, I'm sure he would do it. I don't know what his heart is on that. I know he said he would overturn it. I know he attempted to. They ran the legislation and then John McCain, in a fit of pettiness and anger, as John McCain was known for, he, you know, John McCain cast the deciding vote. I'm going to finish my sentence.

[00:02:17] He cast the deciding vote to keep Obamacare and just spit in the face of all of the Republicans that had run on that promise. But he has the House and the Senate now, right? Yes. If you have enough votes in the Senate to override or to to overcome a filibuster. You know what I think? You know what I think it is? What? I think that more Republicans have Obamacare than Democrats now. I think that's probably why he won't mess with it now. What's your evidence for that claim?

[00:02:47] I'm sorry? What is your evidence for that claim? All of the local governments in the red states, they love Obamacare. They love it. What is your evidence for that claim? Statistics. What statistics? Overwhelming majority of Republicans are using Obamacare. And over, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, Philip.

[00:03:13] I'm writing this down because what I'm going to do is I'm going to check your data because I don't believe you know what you're talking about. I am right. So you said a majority of Republicans are on Obamacare. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And let me tell you one other thing. The reason that the presidential inauguration was held in the Rotunda, you know what the real reason is, right? I'm sure you'll tell me. Well, you don't know?

[00:03:41] I don't know what you think it is, but I'm sure you think you do. So go ahead and say what you think it is. But, oh, hang on, hang on. I bet I can guess. Let me guess, Philip. I'm going to go ahead and guess. I'm going to guess that you believe it was held in the Rotunda because he couldn't actually get the crowd size. Exactly. You are smart, dude. Yeah. No, I just, no, I just, I consume left-wing media. I read, no, I read, I read left-wing media so I know what your arguments are. You knew exactly the reason why. Man, come on, admit it, man. Admit what?

[00:04:10] The dude is a douchebag. You already know that. So, wait, Philip. Philip. Philip. Hang on, hang on, hang on, Philip. So I want to be clear. I just told you something and you just completely ignored it, right? I said, I know what you were going to say because I consume left-wing media. So I knew what you were going to say. That was a lie. So, all right, what part's a lie? That I consume left-wing media, that I read leftist media, that I...

[00:04:39] You could have gotten that on the right-hand side as well. The right wasn't reporting. You know what the right was reporting? What was the right reporting? See, you don't know, but I do because I read that also. So the right-wing media, I will tell you... No, I will tell you. And this illustrates my point. I would dare say it's proof of what I just said, that I read left-wing media so I knew what you were going to say, but you don't consume right-wing media. So you did not know what I was going to say or what the right is saying about it.

[00:05:05] What the right said about it is that, number one, it was cold and just like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump has survived an assassination attempt, just like Reagan, right? They were drawing parallels between Trump and Reagan, saying he's the second coming of Reagan. Hang on, hang on. You asked. I'm telling you. So that was the first thing, okay? The other thing is that, do you know how many tickets they gave out for the Inauguration Day parade and the inauguration itself?

[00:05:36] Do you know how many hotel rooms were empty? Do you know... I'm asking... Do you know that? Philip, I'm... So, no, I don't know that, but I'm asking you how many... So I'm asking you how many tickets did they give out for the Inauguration? Oh, you mean how many tickets did the Inauguration Committee give out? Yeah, for people to attend. Uh, probably to all the dignitaries of the government, I would know that number.

[00:06:05] Yeah, like... Believe me. Guess a number. It probably wasn't over 10,000. What did you say? It probably wasn't over 10,000. Okay. It was a little bit higher. It was over 200,000 tickets were given out. Yeah, sure. See, so here... So, Philip, this is the problem. You are engaging in what is called a bad faith discussion.

[00:06:29] Because you do not take any information that I give you as even possibly true. You've already acknowledged that you don't consume all the media that I do. And so you... So you are... You're actually celebrating your own ignorance, and you want me to reward your ignorance with some sort of level of credibility and credence that you haven't earned. They could give out a 300,000 ticket. If no one's booking the rooms to come, so what?

[00:06:59] Why do you... So, let me... They gave out tickets. That's a fair question. So, Philip, why would... Let's say why... Give me a scenario where you could contemplate a bunch of people going to an event and not staying overnight. For the inauguration? Oh, my God. I can give you... I can go to my daughter's band concert in another county and not stay overnight. Right. This is a presidential inauguration.

[00:07:25] These are people coming to watch the D.C. from all over the country and the world. Yeah. Are you serious? Are you really going to ask that question? I did ask that question. So, you kind of got close to the answer, Philip. You kind of got close to the answer, which is that people show up. They attend the event, the rally, because it was at, like, noon, and then they go home. Okay. People are coming to the nation's capital. Yes.

[00:07:51] That is the premier destination for tourists in the world. Yeah. It's not, actually, but okay. Yeah, it is. I mean, it is a tourist... Yeah, people do tour, sure. You have a presidential inauguration. Yeah. Oh, man. What are you going to talk about... So, Philip, do you know... So, Philip, have you... Do you know anything about the Trump rallies? The Trump rallies? Yeah. Do you know what happens? I'll be more specific. That's kind of open-ended. I'll be more specific.

[00:08:19] Do you know what happens before and outside and after the Trump rallies? I've never been to a Trump rally. I didn't think you would have, but... No, I mean... But are you aware? Like, are you aware? I've never had any interest in going to a Trump rally. What's that? I've never had any interest in going to a Trump rally. I'm not asking you if you went to one. I'm asking if you know what occurs outside the Trump rallies. What occurs outside of a Trump rally.

[00:08:47] I'm assuming you have a bunch of people congregating and discussing how they love President Trump, I would assume. Yeah. Right. So, yeah. It's like... Do you remember... I don't know how old you are, but do you remember the... I don't remember that rally. I didn't hear you. I'm assuming you did rally. I can't understand what you're saying. So, the Trump rallies are very similar to what the Grateful Dead shows used to be like,

[00:09:15] except no drum circles and way less pot smoking. But it's a... There's a lot scene, they call it. The parking lot scene. And there are these huge gatherings of people and a lot of these rallies that are held in venues that can't actually hold all of the people that show up to these things. And so... And the people that go are totally fine with that. Because they enjoy just going and hanging out in the parking lots and tailgating. Oh, you should have said tailgate. Yeah.

[00:09:44] You should have said tailgate. Yeah, yeah. They tailgate. But it's more than that. Some of them are not just like... Yeah, so they show up. They travel. They're in their RVs and stuff. It's like a cross between a dead show and a NASCAR race. It's like... They show up. It's like a football game. Oranges and apples, man. Oranges and apples, please. How would you know that? Philip, how would you know that? You just admitted... Hang on. Again. Philip, once again. You just acknowledged...

[00:10:11] Philip, you just acknowledged that you have no idea what occurs outside of these venues. And then when I told you, you then proclaim that it is somehow different. And I'm telling you, it's not. And you, speaking from a position of self-declared ignorance, are telling me that I'm wrong? That doesn't... Philip, how could you even possibly know that when you are ignorant? I'm ignorant of the facts. I'm going to tell you. Listen, I'm going to tell you.

[00:10:39] You're comparing an inauguration to a football game. Did I compare an inauguration to a football game? Did I actually do that? No, I did not compare an inauguration to a football game. I was speaking about... Philip, I was speaking about the people that go to the Trump rallies and the inauguration that got all of the tickets. And they travel. They drive. They hang out with each other. They have this entire scene. You don't know about it.

[00:11:06] And to you, it sounds completely unbelievable that people would take a trip to go see the inauguration on the East Coast. They would drive somewhere from the East Coast. They would go. They would see the inauguration. And they would hang out in the parking lot for a couple hours. And then they drive home. And then they drive home. That's what the Trumpsters do. You don't know this because you don't consume any other media besides the media that tells you what you want to hear.

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[00:13:14] I did notice that I see the leftist trolls have finally reemerged after their post-election slumber. You know? Because they've been hard to find in the last two months, basically, since the election. They haven't been calling. They've been off licking their wounds. But now Trump is back in. He's doing stuff. Now we got new material. Now I can go after him for something. So now they're back. I welcome the calls.

[00:13:42] Like, I enjoy having discussions with people. I prefer it be substantive. I prefer it be in good faith. Now if people like Phillip, I don't believe that's his real name, but if people like Phillip prefer not to engage in good faith and prefer to engage in a different manner, well, I'm your Huckleberry. Joy, welcome to the program. Hello, Joy. Hello. Hello.

[00:14:09] I just wanted to say, I just think that you can speak with people and you can give opinions. And I think it's nice that you have a forum for them to have their opinions. But you don't have to have the nastiness and the ugliness. Like which part was nasty? You know how you spoke about that person when you cut him off and didn't let him reply back to you.

[00:14:39] He spoke, first off, Joy, hang on. He was on a clock. I know what the clock said. He had the entire segment of almost nine minutes to say whatever. Remember, do you remember what he first called in about? I do. I do. And I think that is fine that you gave him that forum to speak. I gave him plenty of time. But then you degrade him. What did I say that degraded him?

[00:15:12] But then you degrade him. Oh, when I said that it was a dumbass argument. That's what you're objecting to? He's making a dumbass argument? I am. I think that is very degrading. So you don't like the fact that I called his argument a dumbass argument? No. That is fine for you to have your opinion, but I think that is very degrading to that person that you spoke with.

[00:15:40] No matter what their forum is, the nastiness that you're ramping up towards, he didn't get to respond back to your comment is what I'm saying. Well, so here's, I will give you a bit of insight into the industry here. Where when you have your own show, you get the last word. I understand that. Okay. But does it mean that your listeners have to like what you do? No. That's why you're on right now. Exactly.

[00:16:09] And I appreciate that. So, Joy, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I'm probably going to have the last word here after I hang up with you. And by the way, I never hang up on people. I put them on hold. I put them on hold. Of course. And if he had stuck around or something for a long period of time, the producer at some point would have gone over and asked him, hey, are you still there? Not that he's going to be able to get back on. But Phillip, that's not his real name, calls regularly. Have you heard him before? I have not.

[00:16:39] Whether I have heard him before or not, I just think that you don't have to be nasty that way. Oh, no, I don't have to. So, first off, yeah, so, Joy, so here's the thing. You have, Joy, you have your opinion, first of all. I respect that. Second of all, me calling somebody's argument a dumbass argument is not degradation of them. They are making, they have the power to make a better argument.

[00:17:03] But Phillip, not his real name, he calls under assorted names, Phillip does not engage in good faith. Phillip is a troll. Phillip prefers to engage in that way of arguing. But you allowed him to speak. I did allow him to speak because I'm a nice guy. I let people speak. And so I allowed him to speak. I allowed him to make his argument as best he could.

[00:17:26] And when it became clear that he couldn't even do that without resorting to, I mean, he started with the name calling of various people, right? He started assumptions of bad faith, right? He started using all of these lazy crutches that people who don't know what they're talking about and are simply trolling that they use. That's what he did. That's why I called his argument a dumbass argument because that's what it is. It's not actually, it's not based in intellectualism. It's not based in logic.

[00:17:54] It's just meant to inflame. That's all. And so, and look, and I meet people where they are. And Phillip may not be able to communicate with people in any other way. I have tried to talk to Phillip in the way I'm talking with you. And he doesn't respond. He doesn't want that. So I give people what they want. That's what he wanted. For all I know, he's posting this stuff on YouTube and making money off of it and more power to him. Well, I just say as a listener, I just, I don't like the nastiness.

[00:18:24] I don't think I was nasty at all. Not to him. I did not degrade him at all, except I call him a troll. I appreciate the call, Joy. You'll see I've put you on hold so you can still hear me when I'm saying to you, Phillip was making a dumbass argument. That is true. That is absolutely true. That's not degrading to him. He can change. He can make better arguments.

[00:18:47] I am trying to inspire him and motivate him to make better arguments, be more logical and rational, and to educate himself on the other sides of arguments. Phillip shows a lack of desire or maybe even an inability to do that. And then chastises and attacks people who do that. As I did, like I read the media that he reads. He basically called me a liar.

[00:19:16] I think he actually did call me a liar. I get no, but Joy did not find that to be offensive. I guess that's okay. He can call me a liar and that's fine. But I call an argument dumbass and that's, that's degradation. So I disagree. Agree to disagree. All right. I hope you had a happy holiday season, but tell me if something like this happened at your house. Your family and friends are gathered around. Maybe y'all are in the living room. You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing.

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[00:20:40] By the way, something that Philip, if that is his real name, mentioned about the hotel occupancy rates or vacancy rates. He was trying to say that, like, all of these, all the hotels were empty or whatever. So I was curious about that. And see, because I, like, I hear information. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I should go check and see if there's more about that. Actually, the hotels were surging until they announced they were moving it. So you had all of the hotel rooms.

[00:21:07] Like, there was, like, several news stories, different outlets that were reporting on a, or some hotel that was offering, like, a $73,000 package deal. $73,000 for hotel accommodations and such. Like a bundle deal or whatever. And it sold out. And the hotels were sold out.

[00:21:35] And then, of course, they moved it, and then people canceled the hotels. So I don't know what Philip was talking about, but I'm sure whatever news outlet he was reading told him what to think on that. Let me go over here and talk to Ray. Hello, Ray. Welcome to the program. Hello, Pete. How are you doing today? I'm good, sir. What's going on?

[00:21:58] I was just calling in defense of your encounter with Philip a while ago. Okay. Yeah. It reminds me of someone that might have had a secret desire to be a dentist and have the one-way conversation. Because, you know, to have a conversation, you have to. Right. You have to have a listener and a talker. And they can't both do the same thing at one time. That was my comment, Pete.

[00:22:27] Now, to be fair, Ray, I think most of the time that happens with the dental hygienist. Well, that's true. Right. That could be. Yeah, because, like, the dentist comes in after the hygienist has done all the work. And the dentist comes in and is like, you know, grabs your tongue, moves it around, looks at stuff. Okay, okay. All right. Looks good. You know, after the hygienist did all of the grunt work, you know? Right. Well, thanks a lot, Pete. I appreciate you talking to you. Yes, sir. I appreciate the call, Ray. Thank you.

[00:23:02] So, in reference to Phillip, I went to the inauguration. So, when I booked my room a few weeks back, I had to stay outside of D.C. Yeah. Because there was nothing available. And I was one of those guys. I got tickets to that rally on Sunday. Right. So, I got there late. And I'm like, there's no one waiting in this line. So, I went to the end of the line just walking around D.C. We walked back to the front of the Capitol Arena. It was over two miles long. The line was? The line was.

[00:23:31] And, you know, it wasn't single file. I mean, it was groups of people 10, 12 wide. The mile was, that I saw was, and I wouldn't even start at the back. It was over two miles long. Right. There had to be 200,000 people in line. Well, yeah. So, the official count for the ticket total was 220,000 tickets given out. And I got a message from Melissa who said, Phillip has no idea the process required for obtaining an inauguration ticket.

[00:23:59] As a recipient of one, I do. Tickets are not just handed out. Perhaps if he shut his mouth once in a while, he might learn something. Yeah. So, it's hard to say that he couldn't get the crowd. And I can imagine how many people, I always thought about canceling, but I said, no, it's a history thing for me. Yeah. So, I wanted to be there. But I said, there was, the mile was probably, it was probably almost three miles long to get into the arena. And I talked to people at the end, and they go, hey, we're being hopeful. And I just started laughing because they had no idea.

[00:24:27] So, he was wrong on not having the numbers. There was, I said, and then I've been to D.C. probably seven, eight times. I have never seen so many people there. It was crazy. So, love the show. Yeah. Thanks, Dan. I appreciate the call. Yeah. Well, I mean, you realize that, and I realize the point why he raised that attack, which was a pivot away from something that he couldn't defend. So, he deflected with this other attack. Oh, you know why he moved it?

[00:24:57] You know why he moved it, right? He started that line. So, why would he do that? Because the left believes, and they're not mistaken in this, is that Trump is very sensitive about attacks against his crowd size. Right? We know this. And so, that's why they keep saying stuff like that. That's why they make these jokes, because they know it hurts him. And so, here's the difference. I don't care about the crowd sizes. Like, that doesn't matter to me.

[00:25:28] Like, I can look at a crowd and say, oh, it's a big crowd. And that's it. Like, that's the extent of my thinking about it. Like, I don't, I mean, if I'm doing an event, and I want it to be a big crowd, then yes, I would want it to be a big crowd. And I would probably get a little irked if people were running around saying it's not really a big crowd. But I also wouldn't go out and lie about the size of crowds when they're not large. Right? I wouldn't say that either. I would say, oh, it's a good-sized crowd. I was happy to get it. Always want more. Whatever, whatever. But I wouldn't lie and say it was a bigger crowd than it actually was.

[00:25:58] But that's the reason why Philip went there. He's trying to attack Donald Trump. And he was trying to, I guess, get me to defend Donald Trump and his sensitivity about crowd sizes or something. And so that's, again, like, wrong guy to make that argument against. Because I don't care. Like, I'm just going to look at the crowd size. I'm going to look at the ticket count. I'm going to say, okay, you don't know what you're talking about. You're just trying to make fun of Donald Trump. That's all.

[00:26:28] And had he, you know, had he just copped to that, I guess probably it would have gone a little bit better for him. At Patriot Girl says, Philip is nothing but a troll. Don't feed the trolls. Look, okay, I get this line of thinking as well. That don't feed the trolls or anything. But I also, like, do you get mad at a cat when it is playing with a ball of yarn?

[00:26:56] Do you get angry at the cat saying, don't play with that ball of yarn? It's just a ball of yarn. I'm the cat. I just, I, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. And I, so, I make no apologies. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know, I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do too. And you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why?

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[00:28:18] Email is Pete at the Pete Calendar show dot com. This is from, I think, Suzanne. I can't remember that guy's real name, but he's been around since before Winterbull. Yeah, I am aware. Let me go and speak with next up here is Joe. Hello, Joe. Welcome to the show, Joe. Hey, how are you doing, buddy? Hey, I'm good. What's up? Nothing much. I was just going to say it's like I told your screener. You're giving Philip, James, Keith, whatever his name is,

[00:28:48] I think we're giving him a little bit too much air time because that's probably exactly what he wants. But, yeah, I agree with your statement of damasery. Yeah. And that's exactly what that was. But, yeah, I just love your show and listen to you every day. Well, thanks, Joe. Thanks for taking my call. No, I appreciate it. Look, and I get the there is it. You know, this is the same thing. Like, do you platform somebody or not? Do you let them speak or not? That kind of thing.

[00:29:17] And I am generally of the opinion in most cases that you let people speak and you that, you know, you let them espouse their bad ideas or their dumbass arguments in Philip's case, and then you dismantle those ideas. You. You beat the bad ideas with good ideas, and that's why I give people like Philip.

[00:29:44] The time to attempt to make some sort of an argument, and maybe one day Philip will be able to do it. I mean, we can dream here, people. Like, if we can dream of going to Mars, we can dream that Philip will make a rational, logical, cogent, coherent argument. I mean, are we Americans or Americans? Come on. Let me see here. Next is John. Hello, John. Welcome to the show. Hey. Hey, Pete.

[00:30:14] How are you doing? Good, man. What's up? I was at the, I was in D.C. last weekend, and I can tell you those hotels were packed, even though a lot of the stuff was canceled. People were everywhere. And the hotel I stayed at was a nice hotel right by the Capitol. Two weeks ago, a friend went up there for the congressional swearing in.

[00:30:37] And I paid 10 times the rate he paid, the exact same room, with a three-night minimum, paid in advance, no cancellations, and the place was packed. So, you know, Philip can pretend like there was no demand for this, but it was, the hotels from an hour outside were all sold out,

[00:31:03] and they all pretty much had the same, you know, quadruples or more of the rates. Like I said, three-night minimums with no cancellations. So, you know, people were willing to pay to go to this event. So, you know, for them to try to, you know, diminish and say, oh, nobody's showing up, it's crazy. And even after everything was canceled, the place was packed.

[00:31:27] So, to be fair, in Philip's defense, he made a lot of arguments and statements based out of pure ignorance. So why wouldn't his comment about the hotel vacancies be based in anything but ignorance as well? Like, so, it was very much on brand. Well, yeah, we expect nothing less from him when he does call. I mean, and you're right, it is like a cat smacking, you know, a ball around. It is humorous. Yes. But the thing is, he keeps coming back. Right.

[00:31:55] And look, there is also, there's another, and this is an important reason to why I bring, why I allow people like Philip to have all the time that he can muster and I can bear to make these dumbass arguments is because the stuff he says, he is repeating from, you know, news sources, from whatever TikTokers he watches or whatever. Like, these thoughts are not his original thoughts.

[00:32:23] He is regurgitating this stuff because I see it. I see it in these other, you know, news sites or on websites and stuff. And so it's important to know what your opponents are thinking and how they think so you are better prepared to do battle. And, like, that's, if I didn't know what the, what the ticket counts were, right, Philip could have had his way with me in that discussion because I didn't know. I would have just said, oh, well, I guess you're correct.

[00:32:50] And I bet that the way Philip presents his arguments in his real life to people that don't know, that are more ignorant about particular things than he is, they will just believe him, right? They'll just say, oh, well, I guess he sounds like he knows what he's talking about. And he doesn't. Well, I think Philip gets most of his information from Facebook memes and uses that as his basis.

[00:33:15] Well, he's going to get exposed to a lot more conservative memes now, I think, under the new regime. So we'll see. John, I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you, buddy. Have a great day. All right, man, you too. I got a message here from Alan. He says, Philip is using a false name. He's the same clown who calls Vince all the time. His only interests are hearing his own voice and listening to his own opinions. Why he keeps walking into your intellectual buzzsaw is so entertaining.

[00:33:44] He has no sense of self-awareness. And then Mark says, Pete, you give all callers and guests a section of rope. It is up to them to turn it into a swing or a noose. And that is exactly right. And Mark, I believe, is the man who told me that axiom, lo, those many years ago. And it is good advice. Let people talk. Let me hear what you have to say.

[00:34:13] Oh, really? Oh, that's interesting. Oh, you don't say. Oh, can you elaborate on that? What's your proof of that? What's the evidence for that claim, as I asked Philip? And the more you talk, the stupider and stupider the argument becomes. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them, too, and tell them you heard it here.

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