Patriotism and disaster response (10-04-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, thank you so much for your support. I am focusing a lot on the devastation in Western, North Carolina

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it is the biggest story in the country despite the

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The spotty coverage that we're seeing in the national media

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have a pretty good guess as to why that is the case

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My intention is to keep the focus on

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The people there and their needs and to help them get

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: first off safe

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: stay alive and

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then to start rebuilding but right now it's just getting them safe

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Helping them to survive got a message from

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Monica who says I thought I had a lot quote-unquote a lot of water on hand

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But I really only have enough for three days and that's without considering other water needs. I

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that for the next three or four days

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But until I looked it up, I didn't know exactly how much that should be

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then she's got the links here for how much water well, yeah, if and that's the thing like however much water you may have

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: stored

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna ration so you're you know in a situation like this you're going to be

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Consuming less than the recommended daily intake, you know

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: uh adequate daily fluid intake

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: is

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: 15 and a half cups for men 11 and a half cups

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: for women

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: every day

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh that cover fluids from water other beverages and food about 20 percent of daily fluid intake usually comes from food

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And the rest from drinks. See this is why I drink

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 pots of coffee a day

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Just as my doctor prescribed

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: As the doctor recommends 12 pots a day

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[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'll go over here. This is robert. Welcome to the show. Hello robert

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, p

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to first and foremost

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to thank you and your fine station for

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: giving haleen the

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: The the uh attention that it deserves

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a catastrophe, which is an understatement and but you all

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Are handling it so well. I know you're trying to uh

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Squelch any of these possible rumors and and trying to get the facts straight. So first and foremost

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, and I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that well, I appreciate it

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Just doing what we can you're uh, you're a good fair

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: News person and that shows and and I'm a long time listener. Um

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and p

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, as an aside, uh, I want to ask you a political question because again

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I've listened to you for a long time. I've listened. I've listened to your station for a long time

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And I believe I've every reason to believe that you are a straight shooter a logical person, etc

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: A simple question. Mm-hmm this party over country charge that is being uh,

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Broad up more and more including last night with lizz chaining

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: When someone tells you if you're let's just say if you're a trump voter like I am

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: If someone tells you that you're putting

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Party over country

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_04]: If you vote for donald trump

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Does that necessarily mean that you are being unpatriotic?

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I so I would challenge the premise of the assertion

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a it it it it's a trap

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a rhetorical trap, right?

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're the only way out of the trap that they're setting by framing it like that

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Is to say that you're not being patriotic, right?

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only if you if you're gonna say no i'm voting for trump

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But and then like no no no because that was it's a false choice. There's that's the trap

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying you either vote for the country or you vote for the party and that's not the choice like for example

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I wrote an op-ed a couple of weeks ago

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That i have never voted for a major party candidate in my life, but I intend to vote for donald trump

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not happy about it, but it's the only way that I can punish the media

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: For the role that they have played in the degradation of that institution that I believe is vital

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: To protecting our constitutional republic and so I don't know any other way to get at them, you know

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I've I've you know, I have abandoned watching them. I don't give them clicks

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't give them my eyeballs and stuff

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know any other way to express my my you know through except through one vote

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And an op-ed and then you know this radio show

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess is to say

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys have done great damage to this profession that is of critical importance

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And shame on you and so I know and so I essentially am using their hatred against them because I know

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That they will hold donald trump to a level of accountability

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That they will not hold kamala harris too and I know that just from simply observing their behavior in the last two months

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Well p I understand the false choice

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh premise that you're talking about yeah, if someone comes up to you and says p

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: If you if you vote for trump you are putting party over country would you take that

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: As an affront to your patriotism because I would

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so no, I so here's the thing. I always assume that the people who use those kinds of slogans

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't understand what they're saying. It's just a slogan to them

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't you have you have obviously paid more thought to what that slogan means than they would

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's such a stupid slogan and they just did it. They had a big like they just did a

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Rally or something where they're like look at everybody. Liz chainy supports kamala harris and they did a banner and it says, um

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It says country over

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Party so apparently they're having a party celebrating the end of the country

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the way I read their sign

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But uh, no, I think what they're saying is that country over party like that's their slogan. That's the message

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and so

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they're the they're trying to send this as a you know this communication that we are better than you

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We are more patriotic than you and look democrats know that this is a weak spot for them, right?

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: This patriotism or un-american charge that like they they know that so that's why they're that's why they're trying to do it

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody that comes up to you and says that to you

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Is has probably not paid it any other

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: thought

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I understand I'm just trying to I'm just really looking at it as a logical type of the question

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't let no there's your first problem. That's the first problem

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a logical thing that they're they're not coming at you from a logic standpoint

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're just trying to like I said, they're trying to put you in a box

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to put you on defense because then what do you do?

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to argue with them about oh your challenge in my patriotism and now you're arguing about something

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That is that is not the point right?

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Because all they're trying to do is get you to vote for their person and to embarrass or shame you or insult you into doing so

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So just a lot. Yeah, so just challenge the uh, so if somebody actually has that way did somebody come up and say that to you?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, this this this is a

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll put it this way p. It's a red line for me if someone called me unpatriotic

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That is a red line for me. I will not tolerate it and I don't think I'm alone and I don't

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't I don't like the insinuation at all

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And no no one has told me that but that slogan to me means

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That I'm put that I'm unpatriotic and I will not tolerate it. Well, yeah

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think what it is is they're they're they're attempting to uh to rebrand themselves

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: as not un-american because the

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They have obviously

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Seen the polling right?

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think I do find it funny that they're attempting to do this rebrand with les cheney of all people

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right like they're they're celebrating the

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The accumulation of neocons

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: On to the democrat party

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Stage and I find that and and and they're citing these people

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: As proof that the democrats are pro america yet. They were railing for the last 25 years that neocons

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Were unamerican so that's where they're at. It's just it's cheap political slogan eerie

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, p. Yeah man. All right. Have a great weekend robert. I appreciate the call. Um

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know if I've ever you know if somebody's if somebody comes up and says it like okay, so wait so

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: the party over country

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Is my choice and the guy who is

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Running on an america first

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Platform is the guy that's not for the country

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That might be a way if anybody ever says that to you that might be a way to say wait the america first candidate

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's branding himself as america first?

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy that's unamerican

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And the people that want to send all of the money

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: To other countries

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And bringing all the people from other countries here

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They are that's the american party like that's

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a rebrand fail right there

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: aka gas lighting

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[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Alan

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: In gastonia says i hope all of these various rescue teams have cleared themselves through the administrators in lake lure

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Could be big trouble for them if they don't bend the knee. That's right

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: grander flight

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Dennis says so from what I gather femas blowhard mayorkas

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Has admitted fema is close to being broke after spending over a billion dollars to make life easier for our

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Legals that poured in over the border during 2023 through 2024

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He said they don't have any money to make it through this hurricane season

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to show this biden administration including mayorkas an immediate exit

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I heard one comment that fema would offer 750 to helene victims. That is true. There's

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna you know if you are

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: In the area and you've uh

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You've suffered, uh

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Damages and such then you can apply for

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: $750 that is the immediate assistance check

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You then can apply for

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: more assistance other than that but um

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The $750 that's a slap in the face to our suffering citizens who said fema fund should be spent to care for intruders into our country

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes me sick. So this is what I said. This is all under the department of homeland security budget

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: so

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You've got fema and then you've got other operations

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and the problem that mayorkas has now is

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: that

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He had said a little while ago

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: When was this june?

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That they were gonna run out of fema money for disasters in mid august

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And now

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: People are pointing out well, wait a minute

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If you said you're gonna run out of money you've been spending all this you've been spending all this dhs money

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: on the quote migrants coming in

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: hotel accommodations

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: food

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: preloaded debit cards right you've been you've been spending hundreds of millions of dollars on that stuff

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So why are we broke and then like well, that's a different line item that's separate appropriations and all this stuff

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: People don't care about your budgeting tricks

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They look at it as

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: An entire budget

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same pair of pants different pocket

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, well this pocket's got some money still in it and this one doesn't so

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We need some more money for this pocket over here

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we don't have any more money for you. This is what the message

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: is

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: For people that are

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know without communications, but also social media people spreading stories and stuff and when you come out and say

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can get 750 dollars, which as I understand it is about 50 bucks more than the Maui people got so

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Consider yourselves lucky for that

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let me go over here to uh, jody. Hello jody. Welcome to the program

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, pete. Hey, um my husband sent me a link to the french broad

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Adventures website. Yeah, um, I'm sure you're familiar with it. Yeah, and there's a brief article about the remembering the flood of

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: 1916

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And it is so uncanny the similarities. Of course, they didn't have back then they were on their own

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a brief article, but it is it is interesting to read with what's going on now

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It may be I yeah, there I did read an article

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the weekend. I want to say or maybe monday

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I I don't think I was at that website, but they may have republished

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the same article. Yeah about the flood of 1916 and uh, I did notice that in yeah and built more village

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That they've got a historical marker there

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: um, and um

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Four people died in built more village during that flood for yes, and in buckham county

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go ahead

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember my um aunts and uncles

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are certainly not with us anymore? I remember they lived in ashville and I remember them talking about that

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they would have been born, you know, it would have been before when they were

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know really young children right but there was still something quite talked about yeah

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean there were there were marks and stuff on walls and buildings

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know like this is where the flood waters came up to and this flood was worse than that

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so yes, yeah jody. Thanks for the call. Yes. I appreciate it. Yeah the uh, that sign that I saw a picture of that marker

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was uh, knocked down in this flood and I just saw a video from w l os tv

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They got down into built more village and they were going around because the water is now gone down and

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: People are going through and you know clearing out all of the stores. They're everything is just wrecked

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[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go over and talk to bob. Hello, bob. Welcome to the program

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, thank you p. Um, yes, sir with

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Heartswithhands.org. Yeah

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Parts of the board cool. Um, so yeah, I just was gonna I love being redundant

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But uh, you were talking about, you know, uh, a country over part

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'd like to talk about liberal white guilt

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And that the for the last four years, you know

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Putting our four years ago putting, you know country over party means that we were not right

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That meant that we were or we were not

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Correct, right

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So so now, you know because I'll only vote blue blue

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02]: As a democrat, I will only only only vote both blue

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's easier media except the fact that I'm voting for my country that I'm voting for my party

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my take on it. That's no, I think that's a fair sort of read into some of the psychology

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, that it's a rationalization

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah guilt man, you know, let I mean

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Can't compare politics

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right if we take what we take, you know, let's take the america first policy

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the the liberal left is is terrible, you know, well with immigration and uh, you know

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean all of it really I just uh

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't you compare politics, but you can compare emotion

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: My emotion for my country is way greater than your emotion for your country

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, it's well. Yeah, it it is as is often the case with leftists

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It is an attempt to seize the moral high ground

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Because as you said the the policy debate, uh, is not in their favor

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Bob, I appreciate the call your cell is breaking up, but I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me jump over and get ralph on here. Hello ralph. Welcome to the show

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hey, you know, uh

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: If people know their history and everything

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: 1916 we're really after that flood it was the birth of lake norman

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's when duke energy

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the duke and dalma or whatever started buying up land right around lincoln county and

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: uh elsewhere iraille and all that

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I live about a mile from the uh, california

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean overall haggis fray

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh off that road that you know people soldier farm and house houses and stuff too

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And and they you know blooded absolute, uh great blood

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_03]: They you know, I guess they entrenched and they built the dam and everything also but uh

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's when they dammed it up and lake norman was full

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. I I was not aware of that that that's the same flood

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That prompted that construction and like I I saw a guy talking about the history of the tennessee valley authority

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I know really very little about

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And really nothing at all, but uh, he was going through

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Um talking about how like the flood controls and the dams that were built under that uh that public works program

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it also in response to the constant, you know flooding and devastation that was occurring and then

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh when they you know worked their way into north carolina

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um the local there was local opposition on the french broad to uh to control that water system and

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That might be uh part of the contributing factor there local opposition to a lot of quote unquote progress

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Um over the last century and in the ashville area has contributed to you know

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of problems whether it's road widening and construction

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you know housing or um, you know floodplain mitigation stuff

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It there there's a long history there, but I yeah, I didn't know about it like I did not know the connection to lake norman

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting. Hey, one other thing did you get when you wrote that?

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you get any pushback from mainstream media? No

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Do that no there was because something else happened

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what was it?

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I it published at the blaze and then something else happened

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And that that took up all of the the oxygen not that anybody would care

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, I'm just a little old radio host here like who cares

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I did get some I got some haters. So, you know that was a plus

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I got some internet trolling that was it Ralph. I appreciate the call now

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I there was no I got no other attention to it

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I may submit it over to somebody uh to

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Some other publications now at this point. I don't think there's any prohibition against that

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the blaze would care

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I got uh, let's see here. This is a message from Steve

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He sent this to me on wednesday

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I'm trying to keep up. I got a lot of messages but um

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He forwarded me a text from

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: his girlfriend's

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: college

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: friend

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Um at from western carolina

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Who said um

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Today was the first day I attempted to make it into ashville to work

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to check on my store and my staff and see my co-workers and get so much needed supplies

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still out of power

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: End water at my home in marion

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: With highway 40 eastbound closed. I had to take back roads

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Around it which included uh down close to lake lor chimney rock and then back up into black mountain and swananoa before finally into ashville

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The normally 40 minute drive to work

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Took the better part of two hours

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And in that time the things I saw will haunt me for the rest of my life

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The lightest of things

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Were down trees collapsed power lines

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I drove over and under so many destroyed power lines. It wasn't funny

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I got into areas where I was driving over cliffs

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And the edges of collapsed roads some of which had me wondering if I would even make it to ashville alive

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: To see my little girl again

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: On more than one occasion my car felt as if it was slipping off the road

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The road was collapsed in many places and slid down the mountains or into rivers below

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So much so that barely one car could make it through

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I even had to drive through what used to be a stream

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is now a small river that had uh overtaken a bridge

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It took me a while to get the courage to drive through it. I do not recommend this by the way people

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Do not recommend driving through that

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I had to wait on somebody else obviously more familiar with the area to go through first for reassurance that I could make it in my

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: little keya

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I began to see cars

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: um and houses and a couple of campers

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Collapsed and washed away down the mountains and the rivers

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even just with trees fallen on them. They had completely been destroyed and taken away by the storm waters

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw whole sides of mountains and rivers that had collapsed in giant mudslides more than a hundred feet high easily

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not the worst

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: As I drove through several areas where the storm had hit the worst

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw bodies bodies of animals wild and domestic

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I saw human bodies who had gotten caught in the storms and the rivers

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: At first I thought they were halloween decorations or just clothes or something

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But as I got close

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I could see that they weren't they were real real victims of hilline washed away by the storm. I saw their faces

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh even worse when I was able to get signal

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I finally got into ashville. I called emergency to let them know about the victims

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was told that they would get to them when they could but they were currently

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Overwhelmed with calls similar in nature and the disaster response and honestly, they did not know if and when they would be able to get to them

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: All of this was happening while on the radio

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh which for ashville has mostly become call ins

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: A woman got on the call from swan and know where to talk about the body

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: She had seen floating down the river and piling up

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Those two hours

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: completely changed me

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's one thing to hear of these kinds of disasters and a complete other to see it

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: She goes on to say I've seen posts of people trying to find their loved ones

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And all I can think of were some of those people that I saw

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Were the loved ones that they were looking for and what'll happen to them

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure my co-workers

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Thought I had lost my mind because I couldn't really do much except stare off into space thinking about what I saw

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I was just in tears

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And she says please keep us in your thoughts and prayers

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And remember kindness

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: In the face of this disaster

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So I will do that

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So when I was a kid my grandpa died with alzheimer's and before he died my mom and my dad and all of us really helped take care of them

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: As he got progressively worse 40 years ago

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: There were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Things are different today because of the work of so many people including the alzheimer's association of western north carolina

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great organization with awesome people. They've got huge hearts. I've been a supporter for like 25 years

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: This cause means a lot to me. I participate in the annual walk to and alzheimer's and I am leading a charlotte team this year

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's called pete's pack. You can sign up and join the team and walk with me

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's on october 19th at truest field in uptown sign up at alz.org

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Walk and then just look for my team pete's pack and there's also a link in the podcast description here

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, i'm going to be mc'ing the gastonia walk on october 5th

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So make a team and join us or make a donation to help me hit my goal. I would really appreciate it

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: There are a bunch of other walks around the carolinahs

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can go to alz.org for all of the dates and locations

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We are closer than ever to stopping alzheimer's

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you can help us get there, we would really appreciate it

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Will you come walk with me for a different future for families for more time for treatments?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why I walk

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The agriculture commissioner steve troxler

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: issued an urgent plea for donations of

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: fencing supplies

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: For livestock producers in western north carolina

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Quote we have seen time and time again our agriculture community support one another in times of need

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is no different. We are seeing an outpouring of support with hay

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Animal feed fencing and other supplies that are going out to those needing these resources

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: In the days ahead, we know we are going to need even more fencing supplies

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially solar fence chargers to help livestock producers

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: If you have resources to donate, please go to the uh website

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: The direct link uh to the disaster hay and livestock assistance portal

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh that is that

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm well yeah, okay. Well, I mean it's a very lengthy all right. I'll read it go.ncsu.edu

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's NC state

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Go.ncsu.edu slash

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: livestock disaster help

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a form there. It asks you if you need help or if you want to help

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you click you know want to help if you want to donate and um

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You can get more information

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: at their website

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: ncagr.gov

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: ncagr.gov

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: FEMA has put out um a rumor response

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They say it is false

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The rumors that we are diverting any disaster

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: money

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh their response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the disaster relief fund

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a dedicated fund for disasters

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's obviously in regards to the uh

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: migrant money right

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh rumors also that FEMA is turning away donations stopping trucks or vehicles with donations

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Confiscating and seizing supplies often spread after a disaster. These are all false

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: FEMA does not take donations and or food from survivors or voluntary organizations

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's the key is the uh the voluntary organization

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I guess if it's government well, they might just requisition some of that stuff

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's all one big family. You know, we're all we're all cuffed coat

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening

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