"One of the largest sociological changes in American history" (09-03-2024--Hour1)

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[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: at

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: church service on Sunday the pastor

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned not by name but the writings of

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Alexis de Tocqueville

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: America is good or sorry America is great because Americans are good and

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: if Americans cease to be good

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: America will cease to be great and I

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't think it's a coincidence because I've had this article in my stack of stuff

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: for

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: For quite a while and look I have had opportunities to tie it to various topics before

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it just kind of gets bumped out of the shuffle as you know

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm covering different things and then I run out of time because I talked too much about you know

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: How I have allergies or something and so I don't get to it

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So I just bump it and it's what we call in the biz an evergreen piece so it can work for

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know an extended period of time. It's not dated

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a piece that appeared at National Review back in June and if I recall correctly it comes from

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was in the August 2024 print edition of National Review

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's by Joseph bottom

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah, all right and

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The title is the hollowing out of an American church and

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: In his piece he mentions

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Alexis de Tocqueville different quote

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But he starts by talking about mainline

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Protestantism and I was unaware of this. Do you know where the name mainline Protestantism comes from?

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The churches along the mainline railroad

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That connects Philadelphia to its wealthy Northwest suburbs. That's where the name came from mainline Protestantism

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I was not aware of that

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He says America once upon a time a land of churches one after another down the leafy streets of small towns in

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: 1965

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Churches affiliated with these mainline denominations claimed around 50% of the American population

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: One out of every two Americans was a member of one of the quote mainline

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Protestant denominations

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: 50% you know what the number is now

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: 9

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: 9%

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Seven denominations that once formed the core of American Protestantism

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Have numbers that are nearly invisible in national totals the northern Baptists

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The disciples of Christ

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The congregationalists who later merged with a set of German reformed churches to create the United Church of Christ

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The Episcopalians the Lutherans the Methodists and the Presbyterians

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The mainline Protestant

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Protestantism this is one of the largest sociological changes in American history and it has happened

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: To institutions that seemed central to the nation itself

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the Alexis de Tocqueville

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: observation after touring the nation in

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: 1831

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: There was general agreement about personal morality

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He wrote quote the sects that exist in the United States are innumerable

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They all differ in respect to the worship which is done to the creator

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But they all agree in respect to the duties which are due from man to man

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: now, uh

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What's his name? Joseph?

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Joseph bottom

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Says morals and manners are not everything but they are nonetheless something

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Beyond all their differences the central Protestant churches gave a form and tone to the culture

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Their unity in difference

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's unity dash in dash difference not indifference, but

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We may differ in opinions, but we are unified in

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The understanding of personal morality and the role of the creator in our lives

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So this unity even though we differ offered the United States a peculiar gift

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: America had the advantages of social agreement

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That come with a state church without the disadvantages of government control of religion

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. We didn't need to have

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: a government

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Control of religion

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: There didn't need to be a state church. There didn't need to be a you know government sanctioned church

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: people just kind of were

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It did achieve a national vocabulary a way to understand ourselves outside political struggles and economic exchanges

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what we have lacked in recent decades with the unsurprising result

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That our political and economic divisions have become nation threatening

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: imbued with the spiritual anxiety that the churches once corralled and directed into concern about

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: personal salvation

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes on to talk about

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: um, a three-legged stool

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Which this is not like you've heard this referred to i'm sure in uh, you know the description of what the republican party has been

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Since the reagan coalition

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Three-legged stool you had your sort of libertarian anti communist types

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But uh, you had libertarians you had your evangelicals and then you had your

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Defense hawks and they were all unified in this anti communism

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: project much the same way

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: America can be understood as a three-legged stool with each leg counter balancing the other two, right?

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Democracy capitalism and religion

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Those are the three legs of the stool. He says

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: democracy gives people

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: participation in national governance

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that that fills the desire

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: of people who want to take part in history

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: democracy

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Leans towards vulgarity and short-sightedness

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right because it's mob rule and the mobs can get pretty passionate about stupid things

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's capitalism. It gives us other freedoms and outlets for ambition

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But it threatens to topple over eroding the virtues it needed for its own flourishing

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right cap. I've said this all the time capitalism is apolitical. It's amoral. You know money is amoral

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You could use it for good. You could use it for bad

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile religion provides meaning it provides provides a narrative

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It provides a channel for the spiritual hunger of human beings

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: it can turn towards hegemony and

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: conformity

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Think the Inquisition

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean just yeah or or Islam

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we have this idea. This is what's right. This is what's wrong

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the thing and only the thing and you can't do anything

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That is uh, that's not approved by us, right?

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So these are sort of the three legs of this stool of the American experiment

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And through most of American history these three legs of democracy capitalism and religion

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Accommodated one another and at the same time they would push against each other

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: In many ways

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: America's Protestant Christianity was a highly accommodating religion

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But again and again the churches managed to withstand the politics and the economics of the age

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The great fight to abolish slavery or to gain women's suffrage or the temperance struggle against the demon realm

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, or the civil rights movement, right?

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Every so often there would explode out of the churches a moral and prophetic demand on the nation

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And to that demand

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: politics and economics

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Had to bend

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: politics and economics had to bend to the

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: uh, to the religion to the churches

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was 50 percent may uh, you know of the population were mainline denominations

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But now that's changed. All right real quick

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[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Going over this piece at national review dot com. It's called the hollowing out of an american church by joseph bottom

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and um

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He says the american experiment best understood as a

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Or might be understood he says as a three-legged stool

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Each leg counter balancing the other democracy

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: capitalism religion okay, and all three of these kind of prop up the american project

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He talked about how these mainline protestant denominations have gone from 50 percent of the american public down to just nine percent of the american public

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, he says we could suggest any number of causes for the decline of mainline churches the rise of television

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: For example the disdain for narrow doctrine in the prestigious mission boards

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The social gospel movement which diminished the need for church in the name of a higher social morality

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And and more right it was a it was it's always been a ratchet

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That turns in only one direction with each new sociological change weakening mainline protestantism

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a key concept

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen this in various forms

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But in in politics and culture this ratcheting effect. It only goes one direction

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: To the left

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It is a constant ratchet right where it's like you gain a little bit click click click click and then it stops

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't go back. It doesn't flip back. It just start it just keeps ratcheting ratcheting

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I like to say the word ratcheting too. I don't know why it's a very powerful sounding word. Okay

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the result is undeniably says we're living in an age of spiritual anxiety

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Some mainline protestants left for evangelical churches and others for Catholicism

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think actually jd vance uh became a catholic

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But much of that decline from the 50 to the 9 percent over the past decades has come from the people who simply felt that their politics

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Gave them the moral satisfaction that they needed

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I was discussing this actually this weekend

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That people identify

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: As their politics now their identities are completely wrapped up in their politics

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It has replaced religion

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxism for example is a religion

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And now their children are in the streets

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Without any satisfaction at all. They're spiritually anxious

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They react to each short-lived bit of political hoopla as though it were the trumpet of armageddon

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They are desperate for meaning

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Shouting slogans. They ache for the unity of a congregation singing hymns. What pros

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, what protestantism once gave they have no more

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a nation defining pattern of marriage and children a feeling of belonging a belief in

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: providence and a sense of patriotism

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The danger in all of this comes from the fact that the apocalypse is self-fulfilling if everything in public life is

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Elevated to world threatening danger if there is no meaningful private life to which to retreat

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Then all manners and even personal morals must be set aside in the name of higher causes

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And opponents quickly come to feel they have to respond with similarly

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Catechlysmic rhetoric and action

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The collapse of the central denominations in american religious life

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Is not the cause of our current social and political divisions

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But it is a significant cause of the rancor the lack of fellow feeling

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And the apocalyptic threat in those divisions

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[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So pivoting off of this piece by joseph batom

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: At national review called the hollowing out of an american church

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a term and I actually discussed this this weekend as well, which is a wolf in sheep's clothing

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Right a wolf in sheep's clothing and people kind of think like oh, well, that's the wolf and they've got like you know some

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh some like costume of a sheep on and uh, well, thank you pam. I appreciate you bringing that into me. Thank you

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[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but they are but okay, um

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: wolf in sheep's clothing

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: People think like oh, there's a wolf and he's got a costume of a sheep. Oh and so he's tricking people, right?

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but what must occur first?

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The the the wearing of the sheep's clothing is

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the second stage

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right third stage is you know, obviously when the wolf eats you because you don't realize it's a wolf

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's dressed in sheep's clothing. It's not really clothing see

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because sheep don't wear clothes

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right much like donald duck. They don't wear clothing no pants

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: so

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: What is it that the wolf is wearing?

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It is wearing the sheep's skin

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So what is step one in this in this thought experiment? It is for the wolf

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: To murder the sheep, right the wolf has to infiltrate the flock

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: murder the sheep

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Scoop out everything inside of it

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Hollow it out and then parade around with the skin

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody thinks it's a sheep. It's docile all of the attributes of a sheep are now

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: given to this wolf

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And that is what we are seeing in our institutions. I believe this is what we are seeing

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The hollowing out not just of these churches, but virtually all institutions

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the destabilization that's occurring in our society and it's why it seems like everything is chaotic

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's because that's intentional there are there are agents of destabilization that are working to undermine

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Institutions that have long supported the american project the foundational

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: institutions and this goes to

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The press it goes to

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: academia and education

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: government law

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Churches religion that's that's the big one family right all of these institutions are being what?

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Hollowed out from the middle

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Right scoop it out then wear the skin of the institution

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And people then give you the credibility and they project upon you the attributes that the skin of the thing

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: One earned over a lifetime

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right the attributes of the sheep in this case or like if you were looking at say

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: law or

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Or education

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Right these institutions or the churches like the I covered this a couple of months ago when the

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_00]: United Methodist Church came to town for their big convention and

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: There are conference and

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: There there has been a split occurring in the united Methodist church

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you have people that are advancing different interpretations based on current political

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh mores or norms

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they are reinterpreting the word of god

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: What used to be understood to be the thing that united this institution when it comes to for example gay marriage

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Has now been abandoned

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And it has caused major problems in the church. Well, they're just not being tolerant. Well, here's the thing leave the church

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Just leave you don't have to be a member of that church

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you want to be a member of that church? No, we're gonna change it. Oh, I see

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're gonna hollow out the inside of that church

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to kill the church

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to scoop out its innards and you're going to walk around wearing its skin as if you've earned

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: All rights to its reputation and its credibility

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's the point you see

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the point

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not to make the church better

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's to break it apart

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what destabilization requires

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because once again the issue is never the issue the issue is always the revolution

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: James Lindsay

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Who writes

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: New discourses is his podcast

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I quote him frequently. You should know him by now writes at twitter also under the handle of conceptual james

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And he says he's been reading

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The historical facts

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: about

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Mao's cultural revolution

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: In china the cultural revolution

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He says we know our kids are being made into a new red guard

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: he says

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He sees it more in

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The illegal immigration issue

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: than even education

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And coming from academia as he does

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That's quite the uh

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's quite the observation

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And i'll get back to that

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's also a piece at the washington examiner

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: By nicolas giordano

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And he is a political science professor at suffoc community college and a leadership institute campus reform higher education fellow

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And he wrote this op-ed called the u.s. Education system has conditioned americans to accept

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: socialism

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: This is

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The philosophy

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Slash religion

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Of marxism

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That we have been fighting in one way or another for over a century now. This is the great debate

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And they are destabilizing through the institutions and they have made great strides in their march through the institution of education

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: uh

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Message here to pete at the pete callaner show dot com from jason pete this segment reminds me of a tweet

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw last june from david burgh who by the way tweets under the name of iowa hawk blog

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He gives four steps

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Number one identify a respected institution number two kill it number three gut it number four

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Where it's carcass as a skin suit while demanding respect

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that is the playbook

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Nicholas giordano at the washington examiner

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a college professor. He says two decades ago the mere suggestion of a major presidential candidate proposing socialist policies would have been political suicide

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But this year vice president camila harris the democratic presidential nominee received applause when she unveiled an economic agenda straight out of the socialist playbook

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Which includes price controls

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: 25 000 government handouts to buy homes and economy crushing taxes to name a few

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: She's running ads on wbt among others

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: promising this very thing

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: these very

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Quote policies which aren't even policies. They're aspirational goals and that's always how

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Socialism approaches you

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They never walk up and ring your doorbell and say hi vote for marxism because

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody will live in misery and we'll probably end up having to do pogroms and you know mass killings and such

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No, nobody nobody votes for that

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But if I can vote or if I can convince you to vote

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: To you know soak the rich

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Take all their money give it to you free stuff for you

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll never have to worry about anything ever again. Well, you're offering me all of these things sounds too good to be true

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That's because it is but I'll vote for you

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll vote for that and that's the thing about marxism is that you can vote it in

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But in order to get rid of it you kind of got to shoot your way out of it

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's such a terrible religion

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: masquerading as an economic theory

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't just a seismic shift in the democrat party

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a shift in the values that wants to find the united states a country where a growing number of americans support socialist policies

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: As a professor, I can tell you the u.s education system is the root cause of this new reality

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Most americans have gone through a failed education system that never properly taught them about the concepts of liberty

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: self-government self-reliance

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: free enterprise

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and capitalism

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: A pure research center survey revealed that 44 of individuals

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Between the ages of 18 to 29

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: 44 of them have a positive view of socialism only 40 hold a positive view of capitalism

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Even 23 percent of republicans or those that lean republican have a favorable view of socialism

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: According to a recent ugov survey of harris's economic policies

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Many people approve of government price controls including 64 percent that strongly or

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: somewhat support capping increases on food and grocery prices by the way

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: If we're going to price cap

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: groceries

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Shouldn't we also be capping prices at restaurants?

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Aren't they selling food?

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: To right they have personal cost, but so do grocery stores

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Fair's fair people. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening

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