Obama makes joke about the size of Trump's... um... crowds (08-21-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Before I get to some of the audio from the Democrat convention last night from Barack Obama, I've come across a couple of audio clips. I just want to run through them real quick. This is Amy Klobuchar. And remember at one point she was a presidential hopeful and maybe still is as far as I know, I don't know. But she is doing something at the...

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Democrat National Convention, the Michigan delegation breakfast. Okay. All right. Just a warning. It's pretty annoying. I told you. Sorry.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So psyched to see all of you. I decided instead of the MAGA movement, we're gonna start the mama movement. That is make America, Michigan and Minnesota again.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Dustin Grage points out that Michigan and Minnesota are actually losing residents to Florida and Texas in record numbers. Okay. Sure. Keep on doing that, I guess. That's definitely one way to go.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, what else here? Do, do, do, do the others. Hang on a couple more sound bites. This is RFK Jr.'s vice presidential pick, Nicole Shanahan. And, um, by the way, RFK is rumored to be dropping out of the race and he's going to throw his support over to Donald Trump.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Not sure how that's going to play out. But, uh, that's the rumor I've been seeing. I don't know if he's actually done that yet or not, but that's what I saw earlier.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, his vice presidential pick, Nicole Shanahan appeared on a podcast called Impact Theory. Um, uh, once again, a warning, highly annoying, but this is vocal fry annoying.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And you'll know, if you don't know what vocal fry sounds like, you are about to hear it or, you know, just on any NPR program. Uh, this is vocal fry, but listen to what she is saying.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Start this campaign. I did not put in tens of millions of dollars to be a spoiler candidate. I put in tens of million dollars to win, to fix this country, to do the right thing. Um, I will say that clear choice, this PAC, this DNC aligned PAC that was created specifically to take us out has spent millions of dollars to take us out.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They have unfortunately turned us into a spoiler. Um, and we don't want to be a spoiler. We wanted to win. We wanted a fair shot. Uh, the DNC made that impossible for us. They have, um, banned us, shadow band us, kept us off stages, manipulated polls, used lawfare against us, sued us in every possible state.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They, they've even planted insiders into our campaign to, um, to, um, disrupt it and to create actual legal issues for us. I mean, the extent by which, um, the sabotage, uh, they've unleashed upon us, it's, it's mind blowing. I mean, we're still learning new ways that they have sabotaged us. Um, I really wanted a fair shot at this election.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I believed in the America that I, a little girl pledged an allegiance to, and that is not, that is not where we are today. And it's not because of the Republican party taking us out. It is exclusively because of the Democratic party taking us out.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And I am so disappointed I ever helped them. I am so disappointed that I helped Chuck Schumer in that Georgia runoff, um, secure a majority. It's probably one of the biggest mistakes of my life.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Nicole Shanahan, RFK's, uh, RFK Jr.'s running mate. Up in Asheboro, J.D. Vance, Republican, uh, vice presidential nominee, uh, made some comments earlier. Here are some of them talking about, uh, Governor Tim Walz, who is a liar.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, Kamala Harris, she gets really mad when I bring up the stolen valor of her running mate. But let me tell you why it matters. Every single person here understands why this matters.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the record on Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota. He dropped out of the military and allowed his unit to go to Iraq without him. And he knew they were going to Iraq. He lied about it, but he knew they were going to Iraq.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Even his chaplain called him a coward. And those of you who served in the military know the chaplain is the nicest person in the unit. If the chaplain is calling you a coward, you must've really screwed up.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He claimed to carry a weapon in war, but you ask him, Tim, what war have you ever been in? And the answer is he's never been to a single war. He lied about it.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He lied about his rank and he stood in silence as Nancy Pelosi and a lot of journalists praised him for his service on an imaginary battlefield instead of correcting the record.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: What won't stolen valor Tim Walz fib about? In fact, I believe at his next speech, he's probably going to say he survived an assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what Tim Walz is going to claim next time.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. So I think we're going to need a fact check on that, on that prediction, need a fact check.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And you think I'm kidding, but they, a reporter actually did a fact check on one of his jokes.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they, they did a fact check on one of his jokes. And so I'm just wondering, like, is this now going to be a thing?

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, my computer's now just frozen up a little bit.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So I just wonder, is this going to be a thing where every time J.D. Vance makes jokes, you're going to get people at CNN and ABC and CBS and, you know, all of the others.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to start fact checking his jokes like they, I guess, like they did Donald Trump's joke about how the Russians should take a look at Hillary's emails.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: This is where we are.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. So Barack Obama, he is at the, um, uh, Democrat convention yesterday.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, Kamala and, uh, Tim are 90 miles away doing some counter-programming at a different event.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and apparently, according to Fox News, that was because, according to insiders, they, uh, the, the, the Harris-Walls campaign, uh, they did not want to be on the stage with Obama because Joe Biden has hurt feelings.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: The Biden family, the Biden crew have, uh, not a lot of love right now for the Obamas, particularly Barack, because they see him as the one who organized the coup against Joe.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So they didn't want to be on the same stage at the same event.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they had a different event, which was weird.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You never do that sort of thing.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's your convention, right?

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't, you don't go to a different city and do a campaign live TV event while your convention is going on.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's that.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So Barack Obama gets on the stage and, of course, heaps all sorts of praise on Joe Biden, who was not at the DNC after his self-eulogy that he delivered on Monday night.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_06]: At a time when the other party had turned into a cult of personality, we needed a leader who was steady and brought people together and was selfless enough to do the rarest thing there is in politics, putting his own ambition aside for the sake of the country.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's one way to say it, right?

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that is a spin you could apply.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He then says history will remember Joe Biden as an outstanding president.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Who defended democracy.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He said it.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you hear it?

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Barack Obama said it.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Who defended democracy.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Democracy.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He's.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you, people, this is going to go places.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_04]: This branding is going to work.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: The democracy.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I also have been toying with the idea to start each program whenever I first say the word democracy to say it normally like that and then just get progressively.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Unhinged as I say that word until by the very end of the program, it's just like a, you know, a primordial yawp, you know.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But he did it.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like I got to think he's listening to the show.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the only logical conclusion here.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, last night, Barack Obama took the stage at the DNC saying the torch has been passed.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But this is going to be a tight race in a closely divided country.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said, people are asking like the voters are asking who's thinking about me and my kids and and my kids future.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Which one of the candidates is thinking of me?

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He says.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: One thing is for certain.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Donald Trump is not losing sleep over that question.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's a 78 year old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his golden escalator nine years ago.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_06]: It has been a constant stream of of gripes and grievances that that's actually been getting worse now that he's afraid of losing to Kamala.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_06]: This weird obsession with crowd sizes.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Why are they going crazy?

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't see it.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_06]: It just goes on and on.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Why did they react the way they reacted to that line about the crowd sizes?

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They went nuts.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, what you don't see, obviously, because this is a spoken word format, not TV, he's as he says that line about the crowd sizes, this weird obsession about crowd sizes.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Barack Obama then puts his hands out and does sort of a measurement of about 12 inches wide, kind of moves his hands and bookends them about 12 inches apart.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he moves them closer.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And you can hear him doing this thing.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He's making a joke about the size of Donald Trump's manhood about the the family jewels.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he's doing.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He's making a penis joke.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: At the DNC.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, no, he was.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It was about crowd sizes.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, then why would he do this with his hands?

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't make any sense about crowd sizes.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's that's silly.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_04]: The it's like when he would flip off people in his speeches and he would take his middle finger and he would kind of wipe away underneath his eye.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That, you know, like you do with to your sister when mom's not looking, you know, you flip over.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Peter's flipping me off.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you talking about?

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't doing anything.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just standing here.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That's he's always done this kind of thing.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he laments the coarseness and divisiveness of our current politics.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just it's the most annoying thing about him.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And I had forgotten it had been.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been a couple of years, you know, I hadn't seen his speeches in quite a while.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So, Ray, welcome to the show.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Ray.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I call you Ray?

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, Ray.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_09]: You sure can.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I call you.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, sir.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_09]: OK, I had a comment about.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Instead of, you know, Trump, people probably said this same type of thing before instead of him, you know, going after Kamala personally and those sort of things.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_09]: I think this one commercial I saw on TV where Kamala is talking about Bidenomics and they're at the last, she says, and we're so proud of Bidenomics.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that if he'll stick to that, that'll do him a whole lot of good.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And also my comment, my question to you was, you know, the country seems to be divided in every election, like 40 to 45 on one side, 40 to 45 on the other and 10 to 20 undecided in the middle that the candidates always go after.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you know if it's always been that way for 150 years or a long time or has ever been really lopsided in one way or the other?

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. I mean, I think there have been lots.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look at 84 Ronald Reagan's reelection.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, are you sorry?

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Because if you're talking about like election results for the president.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I am.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, I mean, you can go back and look at the margins of victory for certain presidents.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, FDR kept winning, you know, for example.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But, yeah, it's gotten closer and closer as Republicans.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And look, the parties real.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: The parties are in a realignment right now.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how that shakes out.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what it looks like.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The Republican Party is becoming more of a blue collar working class party.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And the Democrats are very concerned about that.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why they have been promoting so much about their, you know, the unions and that sort of thing.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But the union leadership that may be backing Democrats does not always reflect the membership that backs a lot of Republicans, particularly Donald Trump.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's always been that way back to 150 years.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do know it's been that way in my lifetime.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I am.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm 71.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_09]: And I remember watching that one election.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it was against Mondale on election night.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I think I saw 49 stakes read on the map.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I remember that.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And he did pretty good against Carter also.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_09]: But, yeah, what do you think about that commercial I mentioned to you?

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you know the one I'm talking about?

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know the specific one, but I think anything that they do to tie Harris to Biden and the policies,

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I think, makes a lot of sense and makes more sense than the kind of childish attacks.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But then again, I thought that also the first time Donald Trump ran for president and he was making fun of all these Republicans,

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that wasn't going to win him the primary, but it did.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I was wrong about that.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But I also wonder if part of that is because he was making fun of Republicans.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And so Democrats in media, but I repeat myself, they lapped it up.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Making fun of Democrats with the nicknames, they don't really take too kindly to that.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And they would probably, you know, they would not receive it as well.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Plus, also, we know this is Donald Trump at this point.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So, Ray, I appreciate the call.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, real quick.

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[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I mentioned earlier that they fact checked some media person fact check a J.D. Vance joke.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So here it is.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Vance.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: This is, by the way, Elena Treen, a reporter for CNN.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And here's her tweet.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Quote.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Vance in Wisconsin says his little theory.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: About why Democrats chose to host their convention in Chicago is, quote, so that walls could actually accurately say that he went.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: He visited a combat zone.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: She then adds Democrats selected Chicago in April 2023, long before Biden even considered dropping out.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He's fact checking a joke.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's head over here and talk with Snake.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Snake.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: What's going on?

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, how's it going?

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just sitting there getting myself worked up while I'm waiting to get on.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I guess what I want to do is is like a postmortem on this election and just do it right now.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But you don't know how it's going to turn out.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I kind of do.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_07]: I think you do, too.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I do.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Because.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I do not.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I do not.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't know how it's going to turn out.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, when it when it turns out the way it's going to, it's it's not going to be because what happened in a.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_07]: In a general election, it's going to be because no sensible people turned up in the Republican primary.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_07]: And so, therefore, even though the Democrats have a horrible record and a horrible message, no credible message whatsoever, and pretty much an idiot for a candidate.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_07]: In spite of all those things, we have nominated a candidate who who still can't win and was barely beating a corpse.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And he'll be lucky if he manages to edge out Kamala.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_07]: It'll be a miracle.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I thought you said you knew who was.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, so are you saying there's a chance that Trump can win?

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, give me a break.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm making I'm making I'm making jokes to here.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_07]: But, you know, I can't predict the election, Pete.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, OK.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I like we lose it.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_07]: No, you can fact check me on that.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I really don't have a crystal ball.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_07]: You can I don't.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But because I was because, you know, I was going to ask you for the winning lottery numbers next, if that was the case.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I can make one up, but maybe then just end up being the governor of Minnesota or something.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_07]: But the point is here, we were winning when we were running against a corpse, barely.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_07]: And now it looks like we're barely losing.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't I don't know how we're going to turn that tide, to be honest with you.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think it's we have a lot of time, Snake.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I literally during the break, I just saw Newsweek reporting on a slew of polls that have come out from battleground states that show Trump winning in Arizona.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to say I think Michigan as well and a tie in three others.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And so and this is right in the heart of the DNC.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: They always you know, the party who's doing a convention always gets a bounce.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people don't even start paying attention to this stuff until Labor Day.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're listening to WBT, you are more aware of politics and current events than a lot of other people in America who who also vote.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. So that's why I mean, I don't know.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's way too early at this point.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the fact that I mean, we can read without looking at polling because I don't trust any of it.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I think more important than the polling is to look at the actions of the Democrats.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_04]: They are obviously to me, they are obviously concerned.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. You don't do to Biden what they did if you're not concerned.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the evidence is ample at this point that Kamala Harris was sort of the de facto candidate that they basically had to stick in there because they couldn't get around nominating somebody else.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They couldn't figure out a way to get somebody else to leapfrog her.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I agree with that.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. And I think then also, if you look at the way the VP selection turned out and our own Governor Roy Cooper, who removed himself from the vetting process.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would I choose not to run?

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Bingo. Like otherwise, why would you not do that?

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_04]: If this is your ticket to be vice president and you're done being governor, why would you not even submit to the vetting?

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would you think being a U.S. senator for one term is going to be a better option for you than being a vice president?

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I that. So to me, the evidence seems to line up with Democrats not being very confident in in this scenario playing out either.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, look, they don't. I'm not I'm not saying they're a shoe in.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I think Cooper got out because he wasn't going to get picked.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, in my opinion. But oh, I got you.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well, well, but he didn't even submit to the vetting.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would you not even because Kamala apparently is like their friends, they're they're they're pretty close.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And he doesn't have anything that I'm aware of, like that walls has got.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Like like what kind of vetting did they do on that guy?

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, obviously not not too much.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_07]: But my whole thing is, of course, they're concerned.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_07]: They ought to be concerned. It's tight. But the the the sad part is it wouldn't even be tight.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_07]: We could beat her with a yellow dog.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_07]: And instead we picked Donald Trump, the only person in the face of the earth that can't be Kamala Harris in this election.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's because the nut jobs turn out in the primaries.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And that includes me, I'm afraid. I mean, I didn't vote for him, but but but the reasonable people don't.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And then so we picked this this guy that just I guarantee it, Pete, if we had access to the polling,

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_07]: we'd see that he is dragging behind the rest of the Republican ticket by five to ten points everywhere you look.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean that. And he's dragging them.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, I made these very same arguments. I wanted somebody other than Trump to be the nominee for many reasons.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And I voted in the Republican primary and the Republican voters in the primary.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: They wanted Donald Trump again. And so we're going to find out whether or not he can pull it off.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where we are. You know, and it is it's going to be it is going to be a tight race, I think.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_07]: But I'm I'm saying that when they start pointing fingers on November 6th, they need to make it a point their thumb back at themselves.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, that's not that's not going to happen.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on. That's what what in the historic in the historical record would lead you to believe that's going to happen.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I do appreciate the call. Thanks, man.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do want to play a couple more clips real quick of Barack Obama's address last night.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He said we are all created equal, endowed by inalienable rights.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess not by God, but from government, I guess.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure. But he said even when we don't agree with each other, we can find a way to live with each other.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But yes, that's what we've been saying.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've been saying this about Obama since, you know, oh, eight, like the guy when he gives these types of speeches, he says these things that are attractive to most Americans.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree with that. The problem is I know he doesn't.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I know he doesn't. You're nominating a guy who set up a snitch line in Minnesota.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He says, though, this is the Democrats vision is to live and let live while we make your kids, you know, go to the drag queen story hour.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The other side knows.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_06]: It's easier to play on people's fears and cynicism always has been.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_06]: They will tell you that government is inherently corrupt, that that sacrifice and generosity are for suckers.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_06]: What?

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And since the game is rigged, it's OK to take what you want and just look after your own.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the easy path.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_06]: We have a different task.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Our job is to convince people that democracy can actually deliver.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Democracy.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That is a straw man argument.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I have been doing this and working in conservative radio for over 20 years.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I have never literally never heard anybody make those arguments of a conservative persuasion.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard those arguments.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: That isn't what conservatism is.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is what I mean when I say he sets up these straw man arguments and says, you know, this is what the other side believes, make some horrible accusations against them and then says, why can't we all just get along?

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand why everything is so divided.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Donald Trump and his well-heeled donors, they don't see the world that way.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_06]: For them, one group's gains is necessarily another group's loss.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_04]: That is actually the left's economic vision.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what animates their economic philosophy.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: A zero-sum game.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That the pie is one size and a slice of the pie for you means less of the pie for me.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, that is not the case in a free market.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_04]: The pie changes in size.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It grows.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It shrinks.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, shrinks kind of like the job creation numbers in an election cycle.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like that.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, and this idea that, oh, they believe that government is corrupt.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Gee, why would half of the country believe that government is corrupt considering, oh, I don't know, all of the corruption that we have been witnessing?

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you aware a member of your own party just got convicted for bribery?

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you heard about the prosecution of Donald Trump in a Manhattan courtroom?

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Or the Steele dossier that the woman who spoke last night before you helped to fund in order to smear and destroy a presidency?

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder why, people, this is the iron law of woke projection.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_04]: They are guilty of that which they accuse you.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, let me, all right, I'll get a couple calls here before the end of the program.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Steve, I have about a minute.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_04]: What you got, Steve?

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they do bring up things of which they're guilty of.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that this Kamala thing is going to, I'm afraid it may end badly because they're probably going to sometime in September just go ahead and let Biden resign.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: appoint her as president with all this fanfare of being the first female president, minority, etc., and hope to ride that wave of celebrity and, you know, into the election.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: To try to juice the polls or something, gain momentum.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that actually would do that.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I have no idea.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: As I mentioned earlier, I cannot see the future.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Bradford, welcome to the show.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a minute for you, sir.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, I have an idea for Trump to hold his own press conference with Kamala Harris.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_08]: And that is, at his rally, he would ask the question, and what is your view of fracking?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And on the video, she would answer from 2019, I am for fracking on day one.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And he could craft a bunch of questions and use those videos to let her answer.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they could do that with ads.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And he can cite this stuff in his news conferences.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, he did that yesterday, I believe.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He was, I forget what town he was in.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like, I don't remember the name of the town, but I think it was somewhere in Wisconsin.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And some reporter asks him, like, oh, why are you here when in, like, 2023, some KKK rally was held in this very town?

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And what is that a coincidence or something?

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And he responded something, by the way, of, hey, do you know who appeared in this very town in 2021?

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And they had to admit that it was, I think, Biden.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he was like, exactly, and he walked away.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_04]: See, having a command of that information, just like you said, like, play the clip if you want or say what she said.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But you have to know the information in order to make those arguments.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: First off, Kamala Harris is never going to do a press conference, let alone one with him.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but the press conference would be the questions and the video answer.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that would be a hit.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I mean, the guy's a showman, so, like, I'm sure he could kind of craft something like that to do some sort of a virtual Q&A or debate, a fake debate, if you will.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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