No mo Moe; Dems are advised to stop talking crazy (08-25-2025--Hour3)

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Bush administration with the Abu Grabe prison scandal stuff, and he I think that's where he like he came out against the administration and he was the darling talking head on MSNBC for years for this stuff. And he's a believe he's a retired JAG officer, the lawyer, and anyway, he runs for office and he fails usually, I mean, he's never won in office, but he runs for office out there in the mountains, and usually for Congress he's done. This was his third run at it. And you may remember the first time he ran. He was running against Madison Cawthorn, remember him, Madison Cawthorn, who then lost to Chuck Edwards. Chuck Edwards Words is now the congressman for the western part of the state. And Mo Davis ran against Chuck Edwards as well and lost too. And now he was running again against Chuck Edwards. But now he has decided to drop out of the race. I'll explain why. But by way of background, Mo Davis was running against Cawthorn in twenty twenty. At that point, I was just doing my podcast. I was working and living in Nashville, and I was invited to participate in a debate with those two as a questioner, and so I, along with two other media types, we drafted questions and we would throw the questions out. And so when I went up and I asked the questions, I had done some research into Mo Davis's Twitter, And by research I mean I just like read through his and the guy has like some sort of best I could determine with some sort of like violence fetish or something, because so many of his tweets were like fantasizing about in great detail about harming Trump supporters and Trump, I mean not explicitly Trump because that would get you the Secret Service visit and all. But he said, you know, you would refer to the voters as magats, maggots, right, dehumanizing language, that sort of stuff, and just real nasty stuff. And so I read to him at this debate. I read to him some of his tweets, and I asked him, how are you expecting to secure these votes? And if you were to actually win, why would people that you're describing like this, why would they feel like you are a representative of them right when you're talking about putting your heel onto their necks and grinding it down into the pavement until you hear the snap of bones. That's what he wrote. And his answer was something like, well, you're in the media, and so like you know, I was like a writing for a different audience or something like that. So in other words, I was like, well, you know, I've never written anything like that, I've never said anything like that. I don't speak like that. So he obviously thought that this was something that the audience of MSNBC just lapped up, and so he had to just keep shoveling it. I thought it was disqualifying. I don't think you should talk about people like that, especially if you want their votes and you want to represent them, right, And he lost because Democrats in western North Carolina they are very weird. Well I mean there aren't Democrats, but like they're very weird in the sense that they have this belief that they in Asheville basically can carry the entire district, like if they can just get themselves a good candidate into the general election, that they will win. But the numbers are not there for them. They would have to jerrymander a district that would you know, start in Ashville and kind of snake all the way over to Boon to get like basically get all the university towns right all the college towns. You would have to make this sort of like long squiggly district in order to get enough Democrats because there are a lot of registered Democrats still in the mountains. But they vote Republican, okay, and so they have this in their head that somehow or another, like they can actually win this congressional seat. We shall say. But Mo Davis threw was name into the hat again for this congressional district, the eleventh, and they had a big district dinner over the weekend, and they had gotten into some trouble the Democrat Party did, because they had invited only one of the candidates to speak, and it wasn't Mo Davis. It was because they got a primary they're doing, and so they invited Jamie Ager and not any of the other Democrats. And so Mo Davis went off on social media as he does, and you know, started saying all these nasty things about everybody and all the Democrats and all this, and then apparently they reworked the lineup and they said, fine, we can have you you know all speak at this dinner, okay, and on the merits of the of the beef. He's correct, by the way, like the Democrat Party says that they don't they don't, you know, pick winners in the primaries. They don't do endorsements and all that stuff. But if you're going to do a big dinner like this, and you're going to give one candidate the stage like that's you're pretty well endorsing them at that point, right, So they have the dinner, But before the dinner, apparently Mo Davis dropped out. In a grievance laced midnight Facebook post, Democratic congressional candidate Mo Davis dropped out of the race Saturday, effectively positioning Fairview farmer Jamie Ager as the party's front runner to take on Republican Representative Chuck Edwards in the next year's election. Davis's decision came just hours before he Ager and three lesser known candidates were to address a Democratic Party fundraiser marking the unofficial kickoff to the primary campaign. The NC eleven gala had become entangled in an intra party feud ignited by Moe Davis, who protested that party leaders were positioning as the favorite by giving him a keynote speaking spot at the dinner. And look, there is a reason why it looks like that. It's because that's what they were doing, right. Yeah, that's why it looks like they were positioning him favorably, is because they were positioning him favorably of course they were. Ager is the CEO of Hickory Nutgap Farms Historic Farm. He comes from a long line of politicians like this is a dynasty in the in the mountains there, and that's what Mo Davis ran up against and then went off on a ti rate. So I guess no more Democrat runs from Odavis. Maybe all right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 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Here's a message from Dave in Shelby who says Shelby definitely does not claim Mo Davis. That's fair. That is fair. Also, I got a message here from John. It's a pete mail. I guess somebody stepped on Mo Davis's campaign's neck until it's snap. That's nice, nicely done, John. Yes, so Mo Davis, No Mo Mo. He is out. He said, I'm grateful to everyone who supported my effort to kick ass for the working class in western North Carolina. Oh sorry, I forgot to mention this. Also, not only does he have like some anger management issues and the violence fetish thing going on on the social media accounts, but he curses a lot too. He uses cuss words and stuff. And he was doing this long before this became a consultant recommendation among all Democrats. He was kind of he's kind of a trailblazer here, he said, at the end of the day, you can't overcome the overwhelming weight of the party's dynasties who have aligned behind the status quo. Tonight I concede to John Ager. Uh see what he did there. John Ager is not actually the candidate that he's running against. Jamie Ager is. John is Jamie's dad. John was a longtime state representative, and then Eric ran for the seat and now holds that state legislative seat in Raleigh. Eric Ager. So this is what he's accusing. Mo Davis is accusing the Aeger family of basically operating as a dynasty, a family dynasty. Here and again, there's a reason why it looks like that. It's because that is the case, right, That's absolutely the case, he says. I can can see to John Aeger, referring to the patriarch of the Aeger family. He cleared the deck to pass down his state House seat to his son Eric in twenty twenty two, and he's doing the same for his son, Jamie in twenty twenty six. Jamie Aeger is named after his grandfather, James Jamie Clark, who represented the region in Congress from nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety one and for a decade before that in the state General Assembly. So you've got Jamie Clark, then John Aeger, then Eric Aeger and finally Jamie Aeger. Yeah, that's a dynasty's that's yeah, that's three generations, right. So Moe Davis is pointing the party, pointing out the party's dynasties. This is what he's talking about. He said, political office is a family heirloom that gets handed down like its granddaddy's pocket watch. Now, part of the problem from Odavis is him. He's not a very pleasant person, and so there's not a lot of tears being shed that he has dropped out. By the way, I'm reading from the Ashville Watchdog Avlwatchdog dot org and Beth Hampton Jones, interim chair of the Democrat Party's District eleven organization, told the watchdog that Davis had very little support within the party. Quote after losing in the twenty twenty election and burning bridges within the party with his aggressive style of blame and name calling, I'm not sure why he thought that he could build real support for his campaign without the Democratic base. She said he had alienated many party workers and voters with an aggressive campaign style. In the days before this fundraiser. Over the weekend, Davis took direct and personal swipes at the state Democrat Party chair Anderson Clayton, as well as campaign strategist Grayson Barnett. He blamed them for pushing Ager's candidacy despite the party's rule prohibiting party officers from endorsing individual candidates before primary elections. And what mode Davis said was, quote, when the head of the state party publicly supports one candidate and her senior advisor manages that candidate's campaign, it's game over. Well now, so Breezy Clayton, that's her Twitter handle, Anderson Clayton, her senior advisor, is running Agger's campaign. Yeah, I'd say that's that's a pretty clear indication. Yeah. The party leadership's ill disguised search for an alternative to Moe Davis focused early on Jamie Ager as being a strong competitor against Chuck Edwards, especially in the rural and conservative counties that have gone heavily for Donald Trump. In addition to the family's historic ties to the region. Party activists contended privately that as a successful farmer and entrepreneur, Ager could win votes beyond the heavily Democrat Buncom County and the other progressive pockets scattered across the district sixteen counties. So they went out and got themselves an actual farmer. Like this is they so need somebody else they have been They have been chasing the ghost of Heath Schuler for twenty years now. Heath Shuler, former quarterback local guy, went to the NFL right and like he represented the district in Congress until Mark Meadows won the seat and then it has not been in Democrats hand since because the voting patterns changed. 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I'm not sure if that was for men and women, but facial hair was a plus. It kind of conveys the idea that first off, your chin may be actually bigger than it is. Maybe not a double chin either, but mainly it's like it shows virility. I'm a man, I can grow hair on my face, right, So there was that. There's also this there was a rash of videos that were shot from gym's working out, so you got like Eric Swallwell bench pressing that sort of thing. So they were obviously they have been advised like this is how you're going to get the dudes back to voting for you is you got to have the facial hair, got to be cursing, and you got to be lifting weights, which actually did not turn out to be really good advice for Zorron. Ma'm Danny the Kami you know jeehati adjacent guy running for mayor of New York. Apparently over the weekend he was at some campaign, you know, grip and grin kind of event, and I don't know why they were like working out. I think they had a bench press there, and so he got onto the bench and he tried to bench press like I don't even know. It looked like maybe one hundred pounds maybe, and he could not do it. So like that's the downside. That's why you got to do that sort of thing in a controlled environment where you can like take all the weights off of the bell, off of the bar rather and then you could just lift the bar and then not show anybody the weights, you know, that kind of thing, or just do something that you know you can do, like maybe just get on the treadmill and just jog a little bit. Anyway, So there's some other advice now that's being offered up. This came from Politico and their playbook, that's what it's called playbook, and they advised in a new memo there is a center left think tank which kind of sounds like an oxymoron, but okay, it's called Third Way and it is circulating a list of forty five words and phrases that they want Democrats to avoid using, saying that the terms put up a wall between us and everyday people of all races, religions, and ethnicities, which that sentence alone is indicative of your problem. Right, You're like, oh, these words are putting up a wall between us and these slubs. Man Like, yeah, you're not seeing yourself as an everyday person. That's the problem right there. The fact that anyway, so this is what they have come up with. Okay, it's a set of words that they suggest people just don't say. I mean, you can still believe all of this stuff. You can be, you know, a full fledged member of the moonbat brigade, but you just can't say this stuff to the quote everyday people, right, makes democrats sound like they're extreme, makes them sound divisive, elitist, obfuscatory, enforcers of wokeness. Yes, right, there is a reason why that's the way democrats sound, perfectly logical explanation, which is that that's what they are, and that is why people do not want to be associated with them. In record, they are hemorrhaging voters. We covered this story the other day. Last week, the New York Times had all of the data and of the thirty states that track or that allow people to sign up with a political party. Twenty states do not, but thirty states do, along with the District of Columbia. And in every single one of those states, Democrats have lost registration and in every one of those states Republicans have gained. Like, this is an existential threat now to the Democrats. This I've said it from the beginning that the wokeism stuff, this critical theory, this Marxism, it is a cancer and it is right now eating the Democrat Party. So what are the words thought? You never ask among the blacklisted terms? Can you say blacklist? Is that anyway? Privilege violence as in environmental violence, dialoguing, which I support that too. That's a terrible word, just say talking, triggering, othering, microaggression, holding space, body shaming, subverting norms, systems of oppression. I think I saw them open for leftover salmon actually back in nineteen ninety nevermind cultural appropriation, don't say it overton window, existential threat to the climate, the democracy, the economy, whatever, radical transparency, stakeholders, the unhoused, food insecurity. I don't think they're going to have any words left. This is literally all they say. You're basically saying, guys, everything that you say turns people. So you're going to have to adopt a completely different language than the one that you have adopted over the last decade. Housing insecurity, person who immigrated, you can't say that, Well, they're not going to say illegal alien. So what are they elect with birthing person or as I like to call them, women, cis gender not a thing, dead naming, heteronormative patriarchy, LGBTQI A plus bipoc. You know what BIPOC is. No, it's not it's not the it's not the cousin of tupocets. It's not that black Indigenous people of color b I POC. Don't say allyeship, don't say incarcerated people or involuntary confinement, he said. The think tank says, we are doing our best to get Democrats to talk like normal people. Which that's the problem. You don't talk like normal people because you're not normal people. This is not like the language is not some it's not some affectation. Right, these are things. But you guys adopted these words because you are in on the ideology. Changing your words is not going to change the ideology. You are locked in the tendency for interpersonal victim and mindset. This tiv mindset. We think this is Matt Bennett uh from the Third Way. He says, we think language is one of the central problems we face with normy voters, signaling that we are out of touch with how they live, think and talk. Once again, it's always the messaging with the Democrats, like, it's never the policies. They never believe that the stuff that they are talking about is the problem. They always think it's like, oh, our message just hasn't broken through. We haven't figured out the right slogan to sell this to you on Always the same with these people. All right, you hear me talk a lot about incentives, right, Well, let's talk about incentive trips, the kind that companies offer employees to fire them up and reward their teams. 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Democrats want to win. They got to get the young dudes back. So the way they think they're going to do this, according to the various stories and the reporting over the last few months, it's more cussing, lift weights, grow facial hair. Also, you can get yourself arrested, maybe get shot even that was one suggestion from a focus group that was done. I mean get shot by ice while you're protesting an ice facility. Okay, so something like that, or just get arrested at an ice facility. Right, and now this from Third Way, essentially their recommendation is just stop talking, just stop talking. They have this list of words that Without these words, I don't know if Democrats are actually even able to have a conversation. Literally, Yeah, hang on a second. I had a message here from the Hellion on Twitter who says, so basically, throw out their entire vocabulary they've been using for twenty years, right exactly, They're about to out consult themselves. Yeah. I don't like The root of this is the ideas that you are promoting. People don't like them. They don't like them, and then you try to shame them and guilt them or lie about what it is you're trying to get done and what is their reaction. It's the same every time. You just don't understand what I am saying. This is a good policy, this is a good idea. I want to go in this direction. And the only reason that you would disagree with me is not because you disagree that the policy or idea or direction is bad. No, it's because I haven't articulated the proper formation of a sentence to convince you why it's a good thing. Mark, Sorry, Matt Bennett, I read the quote a minute ago. We think language is one of the central problems we face with normy voters. In other words, normal people. It's not the language you're using, it's the ideology that leads you to develop this kakamami language in the first place. You created these words for a reason. You do it to gain power to hide the ball. Lenay Ericsson, the senior vice president at Third Way, said the Democrat party brand is toxic across the country at this point, with way too many people, enough that there's no way for us to win a governing majority without changing that, which sounds pretty bad for them, that sense that the party brand is so toxic with too many people, there's no way to win a governing majority. She says. We were sticking to messages that were so overly scripted that they basically sounded like nothing. Yeah, that was the problem. You were too scripted. Right, It's not that you're paralyzed by fear of offending one of your coalition groups. Right, how about this what's a woman? Simple question? You guys couldn't answer it, And it wasn't due to the scripting. It was because you didn't want to say there were two sexes, because you didn't want to offend and anger a part of your moonback brigade base. So Politico asks, can Democrats really talk their way back to power. Uh, probably not. Let me jump over and get Tara on. Hello, Tara, welcome to the program. Hey, pee to see you, hear you at this time. It's a flashback for me. I used to do afternoons, so it's kind of reliving the old glories there. No, I remember, I've followed you a long time. I knew you when you were very heavy. Oh well that wasn't that long. It's been about four years though. Yeah. But I'm wondering do the Democrats believe themselves? Are they just with regard to with regard to this, like the messaging versus the the ideology. I think they're I think they're getting the the paperwork every day this say this it is and don't veer from that, and if you don't believe it, screw you. We're gonna keep going here. I don't think they believe in themselves. Well, they think. I do believe that they honestly think that it is just messaging, that it's not the policies. And so because they everybody keeps saying the same thing, No, it's there, diluted, they are deluted because they think right, well, they think that they are and you've got rank and file people, you got consultants and all of this, and so it's this way that they just remember, like the whole point of this kind of analysis is to figure out a way to get back into power. And they believe that they are the good people and their ideas are good, so they deserve to be in power, right, And so the only reason why anybody would go against us is if they're being misled or they just don't unders stand what we are saying. But they're also kind of cowards and that they won't push back against the radical elements in their party, and those are the elements that drive these types of language changes. Well, I agree with that, but I also think that they are having themselves on the back like they do with their Emmys and granted, like they give themselves awards and they're like yeah. Yes, yeah, well I got this. Yeah. Well, because yeah, it allows them to not have to change any of their ideology, any of their ideas, not have to think well that too, I mean that was never really on board on the board for them. So Tarah, good to hear from you. I appreciate the call. Got to run all right, thank you, Tarah. Yeah, I think you know so much of this is it's grievance and if you just tell yourself that you're not breaking through with your message, then that's not your fault and you don't have to change any of your policies. You just have to hire more consultants. So say the consultants. There you go, all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. 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