Nick Craig Subs for Pete (11-18-2024--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowNovember 18, 202400:29:1926.9 MB

Nick Craig Subs for Pete (11-18-2024--Hour3)

Carolina Journal host Nick Craig filling in for Pete Kaliner, talking about a piece in the Huffington Post by Andrea Tate, describing how she has been so affected by the election of President-elect Donald Trump that she is canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas with her family.

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[00:00:00] I'm going to give you two numbers, the number 10 and the number 37.

[00:00:05] Now what do those two numbers mean?

[00:00:08] Well, we are 10 days away from Thanksgiving and 37 days away from Christmas.

[00:00:14] And I caught arguably the most unbelievable piece that I have ever read.

[00:00:19] I've been in the media game a long enough time now where I've seen some pretty stupid things written.

[00:00:24] And I want to read through an entire post over at the Huffington Post, you have to bear with me,

[00:00:29] the headline is this.

[00:00:31] My husband and his family voted for Trump, so I'm canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[00:00:38] It's by an author, her name is Andrea Tate.

[00:00:41] And I want to read through it and get your thoughts on that.

[00:00:44] And are you canceling, are you getting rid of Thanksgiving and Christmas because of the 2024 election

[00:00:50] in which Trump, who was already in the Oval Office for four years and didn't destroy the country,

[00:00:55] didn't destroy the world?

[00:00:57] Are you now canceling all of your holiday plans and disowning your entire family because of it?

[00:01:02] Seems like a logical reaction, right?

[00:01:04] Okay, so here we go.

[00:01:05] I knew he voted red.

[00:01:07] He knew I voted blue.

[00:01:09] It's like a poem we're getting into.

[00:01:11] I had hoped the most capable and most inclusive candidate would win.

[00:01:16] He hoped his idea of a better America would win.

[00:01:20] He won.

[00:01:21] And from where I stand, America lost.

[00:01:24] Okay.

[00:01:25] In the aftermath of Tuesday night's elections, still under the bed covers Wednesday morning,

[00:01:32] I scrolled through social media looking for hope.

[00:01:35] I unfriended a few short-sighted Facebook friends, no need to continue our digital relationships

[00:01:42] and witness their selfishness and hate.

[00:01:45] Then I saw my husband's post.

[00:01:48] Quote, God bless America.

[00:01:51] God bless 45 and 47.

[00:01:55] End quote.

[00:01:56] Boy, that's gotta be traumatic to see.

[00:01:58] Your husband votes for Trump and then post that on Facebook as you're looking for hope.

[00:02:03] She goes on to say,

[00:02:05] It had a few likes and a few commenters joined him in his celebration.

[00:02:09] He was downstairs in the kitchen making coffee and I was upstairs avoiding him.

[00:02:16] I couldn't talk to him or even look at him.

[00:02:19] By the way, this is not a satire piece folks.

[00:02:22] This is not the onion or Babylon Bee.

[00:02:24] This is an author who wrote this and published this over at the Huffington Post like a week

[00:02:29] and a half ago.

[00:02:31] I immediately texted my husband quote,

[00:02:34] I love you, but out of respect for me and all of my liberal writer friends,

[00:02:39] can you please take down your post question mark.

[00:02:42] Also, tell your family I love them, but I will not be coming for Thanksgiving and I won't be hosting Christmas.

[00:02:50] I need space.

[00:02:51] End quote.

[00:02:53] She texted her husband the day after the election.

[00:02:56] Shortly after I sent the text, he brought me a cup of coffee in bed and said,

[00:03:01] quote, I am sorry.

[00:03:02] I understand.

[00:03:04] Yeah.

[00:03:05] Okay.

[00:03:06] Good on him for at least trying to be there.

[00:03:08] So then she writes, did he?

[00:03:11] Does he really understand what he and so many others in this country have done?

[00:03:16] I could not forgive him.

[00:03:19] Not right now.

[00:03:23] I'm sorry.

[00:03:26] I mean, this is absurd.

[00:03:29] I'm a quarter of the way through this.

[00:03:31] It sounds like it's something that's like AI generated, right?

[00:03:34] If you went to chat GPT and said, hey, hey, chat GPT, generate me somebody who is a completely politically insane.

[00:03:44] Generate a prompt on how they have to cancel all of their holidays coming up and they can't interact with their family or their husband because they're deranged leftist lunatics.

[00:03:56] And this is probably something close to what chat GPT would spit out.

[00:04:02] So he says he was sorry.

[00:04:04] And he said he understands being very, you know, probably pretty cool and casual here.

[00:04:08] His wife is completely off the deep end canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas because God forbid somebody voted for Trump.

[00:04:16] And he's like, hey, I'm sorry.

[00:04:17] I understand.

[00:04:18] But yes, of course, not good enough.

[00:04:21] She goes on to say, I spent most of the morning doom scrolling, which is a term of just scrolling through social media forever.

[00:04:30] I spent the morning doom scrolling next to a cold cup of coffee.

[00:04:34] I ignored it partially because I was distracted primarily out of spite.

[00:04:41] Your husband brought you coffee.

[00:04:42] You're obviously very upset about the election results.

[00:04:45] He brings you coffee and you ignore it out of spite.

[00:04:47] I mean, what's wrong with this woman?

[00:04:48] I finally got up, made the bed and went outside into the beautiful sunny day.

[00:04:55] Took a few deep breaths and then went back upstairs to unmake the bed and spend the remainder of the day there.

[00:05:03] He went to work, I assume, energized by Trump's victory.

[00:05:06] No, a news flash.

[00:05:08] Life goes on.

[00:05:11] Many of you were probably pretty disappointed by the election results in 2020.

[00:05:15] Right. You maybe remember that.

[00:05:18] You still had to go to work, right?

[00:05:20] Your life still has to go on.

[00:05:22] Can't just lay in bed as a writer and doom scroll on Facebook all day and hate your husband or your wife like this individual does.

[00:05:30] Right. Like life has to go on.

[00:05:32] Maybe you have to provide for your family, get your kids ready for school.

[00:05:34] I don't know.

[00:05:34] Just, you know, basic things that you have to do.

[00:05:37] The next day.

[00:05:39] The next day.

[00:05:39] So this would be not that last Thursday, but the Thursday before that, two days after the election.

[00:05:44] The next day.

[00:05:45] The next day.

[00:05:46] I finally emerged and lish listened to Kamala's concession speech.

[00:05:51] She reminded us quote.

[00:05:53] Only when it's dark enough.

[00:05:55] Can you see the stars?

[00:05:56] I wrote to my artist friends and told them to keep shining their lights.

[00:06:01] I wrote to my musician's son in college and his songwriter girlfriend, and I told them to keep creating.

[00:06:08] I wrote to my young nieces who were terrified and told them I was there for them.

[00:06:16] I wrote to my beautiful gay cousin and said I love him and was thinking of him and his partner.

[00:06:23] I kept writing.

[00:06:24] I received a message from a family member who told me her Ukrainian friend was petrified.

[00:06:31] Another message came in from an actor friend who said that she was afraid that the damage that will be done in the next four years could never be undone.

[00:06:41] One of my sisters wrote and said that she had a panic attack and had to leave work.

[00:06:48] One of my students rescheduled our afternoon appointment saying she just couldn't function.

[00:06:55] This is unreal.

[00:06:58] This is truly unbelievable.

[00:07:01] And I don't I don't I try not to say that very often, but this is truly unbelievable.

[00:07:06] Panic attack.

[00:07:07] You couldn't function folks.

[00:07:09] This guy's already been in the White House.

[00:07:12] Right?

[00:07:13] Like not that it would be justifiable, but if this is if this was your reaction in 2016, I'd be like, yeah, you know, the mainstream media believed you mainstream media made you believe this guy was Hitler and was going to like destroy the earth or something like that.

[00:07:28] All right, fine.

[00:07:29] I'll give you a pass on that in 2016.

[00:07:32] It's absurd.

[00:07:33] It's stupid, but I'll give you a pass.

[00:07:35] But this is your reaction waking up election the morning after the election in 2024.

[00:07:43] After this guy's already been in the Oval Office.

[00:07:46] After he's already governed for four years.

[00:07:49] This is still your reaction to Trump.

[00:07:51] We are going through a piece over at the Huffington Post by author Andrea Tate.

[00:07:56] The headline, my husband and his family voted for Trump.

[00:08:00] So I'm canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[00:08:03] Obviously, very logical reaction to the election some two weeks ago.

[00:08:07] Jeff is hanging on online, too.

[00:08:09] He says he's had a similar situation.

[00:08:11] Jeff, you're on the air.

[00:08:12] Enlighten us.

[00:08:13] What's going on?

[00:08:15] I can't hear.

[00:08:18] Hello?

[00:08:20] Yes, Jeff.

[00:08:20] You're on the air.

[00:08:21] Go ahead.

[00:08:21] Yeah.

[00:08:23] Everything that you were saying, I just could relate to.

[00:08:29] My wife and I both voted for Trump.

[00:08:32] And it literally just tore our daughter-in-law apart.

[00:08:37] The things she posted on social media for about four days was just incredible.

[00:08:45] And I guess she ended up in Facebook jail for some of the things that she posted.

[00:08:52] My brother has been a Democrat for years and years.

[00:08:57] And I knew he was disappointed.

[00:09:01] I waited about a week and called him and said, I know you were disappointed about the election.

[00:09:10] I just want to make sure you're okay.

[00:09:12] And we started talking before the end of it.

[00:09:17] And we started talking before the end of it.

[00:09:17] He said some horrible, horrible things to me about my interest in Trump and stuff and what it's going to do to the country in the next four years.

[00:09:30] And it was some major damage to our relationship.

[00:09:34] And only time is going to determine whether it's salvaged or not.

[00:09:40] But I'm more concerned about how we're going to repair the damage that the Democrats have done in the last four years.

[00:09:49] Like they robbed Medicare for their Green Deal things and used the money for tax credits on electric cars and all that.

[00:10:06] And kind of like, you know, no consideration for the seniors all about their program that most Americans don't buy.

[00:10:17] Well, absolutely.

[00:10:18] And Jeff, I appreciate your call.

[00:10:20] And I hate the fact that you're having to deal with that.

[00:10:22] And again, I just you and myself and so many others listening were probably just as disappointed in in 2020.

[00:10:29] Yet the reaction was not to go and disown your entire family and cancel Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[00:10:38] So reading through this post, the headline, my husband and his family voted for Trump.

[00:10:42] So I'm canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[00:10:44] So, so far, if you're just joining us morning after the election, the author of this piece sees her husband post on Facebook that, you know, Trump's the president, you know, 45 and 47.

[00:10:58] She texts him, says, I love you, but I'm not going to host Christmas.

[00:11:02] I'm not going to host Thanksgiving.

[00:11:04] I don't want to see your family.

[00:11:06] He seemingly is nice to her, brings her some coffee.

[00:11:09] She spites him.

[00:11:10] She won't look at him in the eye.

[00:11:11] She won't even talk to him.

[00:11:12] So here we are running through the piece now.

[00:11:16] And it says this later that night, this would be Thursday after the election later that night.

[00:11:24] I briefly glanced at my husband and found myself not wanting to look into the eyes that I love.

[00:11:32] I hated this divide.

[00:11:34] I wanted to touch his forearms and feel our connection.

[00:11:38] But I also felt the urge to punish him and deny him of that.

[00:11:44] What is wrong with these people?

[00:11:47] This is a quote.

[00:11:48] This is what she told him.

[00:11:49] Quote, I am sorry about the holidays, but I cannot bite my tongue like I did with Hillary.

[00:11:56] I don't want to disrespect your parents or your brother and his family in their home or our home.

[00:12:02] So it's the best way.

[00:12:04] No scenes.

[00:12:05] You can go see them.

[00:12:07] Seriously.

[00:12:08] I will not be in a room of 15 people who voted for Trump.

[00:12:12] That's what she tells her husband.

[00:12:14] How about you just get over it like everybody else does and move on with your life?

[00:12:18] I mean, maybe that's the reaction of this.

[00:12:21] 10 days from Thanksgiving, 37 days from Christmas.

[00:12:25] My husband mentioned our son and his girlfriend are going to be coming home for Christmas.

[00:12:30] And he said, will they feel bad?

[00:12:33] So she writes, bad?

[00:12:35] I think they already feel bad.

[00:12:37] Really bad, I thought.

[00:12:38] And instead I said to him, we will have our own small holiday and it will be fine.

[00:12:45] Man, oh man.

[00:12:47] She writes, will it be fine?

[00:12:51] Question mark.

[00:12:51] I have wondered that since 2016 when I saw my husband's stubbornness.

[00:12:57] How could a Latino vote for Trump?

[00:13:00] How can any of his family members vote for him?

[00:13:04] Haven't they believed any of Trump's comments about immigration?

[00:13:08] Aren't they worried about the reproductive safety of young women and girls in our family?

[00:13:13] Aren't they worried about all the other nightmares that could be heading our way?

[00:13:19] Obviously not.

[00:13:21] Obviously not the fear mongering that the mainstream media has beaten into this woman's brain.

[00:13:27] Obviously not.

[00:13:30] She says, I was surprised that he didn't argue about the change in holiday plans.

[00:13:35] Normally it would be a bone of contention because of how close he is to his family.

[00:13:40] Somewhere inside, he must understand what the election outcome means to me.

[00:13:44] I know he has empathy for me, which I'm thankful for.

[00:13:47] I will hold onto that like a life raft as I try to figure out how we move forward in our marriage.

[00:13:53] Now, I suspect the reason he didn't argue with you is because you're unhinged.

[00:13:59] I would suspect the reason that her husband is not arguing and pleading with her to visit and spend time with, oh, I don't know, your family for Thanksgiving and Christmas is because this is not a normal reaction to politics.

[00:14:15] This is not a normal reaction to an election.

[00:14:19] Folks, we were there just four years ago.

[00:14:22] I was disappointed.

[00:14:24] You were probably disappointed with the results.

[00:14:28] But life goes on.

[00:14:30] You deal with it as an adult.

[00:14:33] Now she says she's got to hang on to a life raft as she tries to figure out how to move forward with our marriage.

[00:14:40] Trump was already in the Oval Office.

[00:14:43] He was the president for four years.

[00:14:44] How did you deal with that?

[00:14:48] I guess it's just unbearable the second time.

[00:14:50] Can't deal with it again.

[00:14:52] All right.

[00:14:53] I mean, because Trump destroyed the country after all, according to many Democrats in the media, right?

[00:14:57] No new wars.

[00:14:59] American energy independence.

[00:15:02] Got rid of funding on a lot of these ridiculous programs like we were just talking about with Jeff.

[00:15:07] Bringing back American pride and spirit.

[00:15:10] Yeah, all those things.

[00:15:11] Absolutely destroying America.

[00:15:13] We are going through a piece this afternoon.

[00:15:16] It was written over at the Huffington Post by an author.

[00:15:19] Her name is Andrea Tate.

[00:15:22] And the headline is this.

[00:15:23] My husband and his family voted for Trump.

[00:15:26] So I'm canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[00:15:29] And my question to you this afternoon at 704-570-1110 is, have you experienced anything with your family?

[00:15:36] 704-570-1110.

[00:15:38] We're almost through the piece, I promise.

[00:15:40] Just to recap, her husband voted for Trump.

[00:15:43] His entire family voted for Trump.

[00:15:44] We learned in the last segment that he is Latino, according to her.

[00:15:48] And she can't wrap her head around why he and his whole family voted for Trump.

[00:15:53] And she is beside herself.

[00:15:54] So she's canceling Thanksgiving.

[00:15:56] She refuses to see his family.

[00:15:59] And she's not hosting Christmas because she doesn't want to be in the same room as these Trump supporters.

[00:16:04] Very logical reaction to the election.

[00:16:08] So continuing in the piece, she says this.

[00:16:11] I will not give thanks and hold hands in a circle of people who voted for a party that wants to take away rights from LGBTQIAP plus people.

[00:16:21] False.

[00:16:22] False.

[00:16:23] I will not pass turkey to someone who supports people who have been singled out and will cause harm to people with disabilities and the elderly.

[00:16:31] Also false.

[00:16:33] I will not sit by a Christmas tree celebrating the birth of Jesus and sipping eggnog when I know how many people are now going to find themselves in grave, even deadly, dangerous situations because they cannot get the reproductive care they need.

[00:16:49] Also false.

[00:16:51] And then says, I will not unwrap gifts given to me by people who voted for a party that is talking about building internment camps and mass deportation.

[00:17:00] Well, that last one's only half false.

[00:17:02] I haven't heard any discussion about internment camps at all.

[00:17:05] Mass deportation?

[00:17:06] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:17:07] That's on the table.

[00:17:08] Trump talked about it during the election.

[00:17:10] Not a secret, not a surprise.

[00:17:12] It was one of his campaign things.

[00:17:13] I will keep encouraging my friends and family to continue to hope and fight for our country.

[00:17:21] I don't know how or when I can greet my husband in the morning with the usual hug when I wrap my arms around him and smile knowing that we are one.

[00:17:34] We are now two and it's still agonizing.

[00:17:38] Still, I know he is a good man and he would do anything for a family member or a friend, which makes what he has done even more infuriating and even more painful.

[00:17:50] Folks, we're not through this yet, but the moral of the story is her husband who voted for Trump seems like a really great guy.

[00:17:58] She even admits that he's a great guy.

[00:18:01] But she is so entrenched in left wing politics, so entrenched in the doomsday scenarios of MSNBC, CNN, NPR and all the rest of them on Trump and Republicans that she is unwilling to even seemingly want to interact with her own husband.

[00:18:23] These are, by the way, from the same people that always talk about, right, lowering the political rhetoric.

[00:18:31] Folks, we got right, you turn on CNN, we got to turn down the political rhetoric.

[00:18:37] We got to simmer down everybody's feelings, simmer down what we're saying to each other.

[00:18:44] Yet she's completely lost her mind seemingly after the election.

[00:18:49] I don't know how else you would describe this.

[00:18:52] There is simply too much history and love between us to let this election tear us apart, but it will not be easy to repair the damage that he has done.

[00:19:01] It's like he went out and cheated on her.

[00:19:04] All he did was vote for Trump.

[00:19:07] It will take time, patience and tough, radically truthful conversations.

[00:19:15] And I know that I'm not the only person in this position.

[00:19:19] Too many of us have found ourselves here and are unsure of how to move forward.

[00:19:25] On November the 7th, I saw my husband's post was still up and it had more comments from Americans.

[00:19:32] And I believed he had made a huge mistake two days earlier when he posted it.

[00:19:37] I wanted to tell them all that they were wrong and had no idea of the harm that they would cause by making that choice.

[00:19:46] Or if they did know that they should be ashamed of themselves.

[00:19:50] I don't know how they can live with themselves.

[00:19:53] Instead, I got up and made my own coffee.

[00:19:56] Oh wow, congratulations.

[00:19:58] I put clothes in the dryer and I let the dog out.

[00:20:03] I went back upstairs and got dressed for the gym.

[00:20:06] I did more of the little everyday human things that we're forced to keep doing, even though many of us just want to curl up in a ball and cry.

[00:20:16] But we can't. We won't.

[00:20:20] When I came back downstairs, my husband was sitting in the living room with his coffee.

[00:20:25] I stood briefly at our blue front door, the one I painted last year when I changed all of the red in our house to blue.

[00:20:33] At the time, I thought it was just an obsession with the need to redecorate.

[00:20:37] I didn't know it would one day read as a protest or a subliminal message to all who crossed the threshold.

[00:20:45] He blew me a kiss goodbye from the living room as he sat drinking from his favorite mug, seemingly oblivious to how upset I was.

[00:20:55] I stood at the door thinking about how I could express my hurt.

[00:20:58] I wanted to say something that would motivate him to erase his error.

[00:21:04] But I knew if my words were too demanding or my voice was too filled with anger, it would get me nowhere.

[00:21:11] This is a woman's challenge.

[00:21:13] This was Kamala's challenge.

[00:21:15] I also knew I couldn't change what happened, only what happens now.

[00:21:20] Only what I do now.

[00:21:22] What I refuse to accept and what I promise to keep fighting for and to do all of it with honesty and love and yes, anger.

[00:21:32] I turned to my husband and told him, I saw that you didn't take down your post and that breaks my heart.

[00:21:40] Then I walked out of the door devastated but determined into the blue of a new day.

[00:21:48] Written by Andrea Tate.

[00:21:53] Unimaginable.

[00:21:55] Unimaginable.

[00:22:19] Unimaginable.

[00:22:20] And even to this point she can't even

[00:22:24] установizes her husband in the eye because of all the pain that she's feeling.

[00:22:30] And I get, you get a lot invested, you have a lot involved in the election.

[00:22:34] I totally understand that.

[00:22:37] But is this really the logical reaction to this all?

[00:22:42] Is this really the solution going forward?

[00:22:47] We heard a little bit earlier from Jeff that said he was having some issues.

[00:22:50] I'd be curious if you are as well at 704-570-1110.

[00:22:54] If you've heard from any family members in the fallout of the presidential election

[00:22:58] that your Thanksgiving plans in 10 days or your Christmas plans 37 days from now

[00:23:04] have been changed or canceled.

[00:23:06] It's really unfortunate that people get this ginned up is what I'll call it in the rhetoric.

[00:23:14] Because this entire piece I think really can be summarized down to somebody drinking too much of the Democrats' Cooley.

[00:23:25] Incessantly watching cable news and hearing day in and day out about how awful every single Republican is.

[00:23:34] Hearing how terrible we are as people.

[00:23:38] Hearing how awful Trump is and everything that he supports is counter to what you believe.

[00:23:43] And how he's going to destroy the nation.

[00:23:46] All of this rhetoric 24-7-365 it's only amplified on social media leads to this kind of reaction.

[00:23:56] Nobody that is not drinking the Kool-Aid handedly believes this is a normal reaction.

[00:24:06] Because it's not.

[00:24:10] Political elections ebb and flow.

[00:24:12] No.

[00:24:13] The pendulum swings every two, every four years.

[00:24:17] Different parties rise to power.

[00:24:19] Then they lose.

[00:24:20] Then the other party takes over.

[00:24:22] That's how our system is set up.

[00:24:24] And for the most part that's kind of what happens.

[00:24:29] Ebbs and flows.

[00:24:30] The pendulum.

[00:24:31] It swings back and forth.

[00:24:33] At least at the federal level.

[00:24:35] Many states, that's a different story.

[00:24:39] And so I think it's fair to ask, how did this individual that wrote this piece over at the Huffington Post, which seems like it was generated by AI, it almost doesn't seem real.

[00:24:51] How did she live through the first four years of Trump?

[00:24:55] How did she not divorce her husband, who she seemingly now says he's a good guy but can't even stand to be in the same room as?

[00:25:02] How did she deal with that?

[00:25:05] And I would love to know, and we won't ever, but I would love to know how her husband handled himself between 2020 and the election a couple of weeks ago.

[00:25:16] Was this also his reaction?

[00:25:18] Did he cancel Christmas?

[00:25:21] Was he standoffish with his wife?

[00:25:26] Is that how he went through the process?

[00:25:28] My guess is probably not because she would have brought that up.

[00:25:34] Folks, this is not normal.

[00:25:35] This is not healthy at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

[00:25:38] I get politics.

[00:25:40] I work in politics.

[00:25:43] This is not a normal reaction.

[00:25:45] If Trump had lost two weeks ago, I promise you I would not be on the air this afternoon crying about how I have to cancel my Thanksgiving and Christmas plans because I can't bear to face my family who may have voted for Harris.

[00:25:58] That's just not a normal reaction to anything.

[00:26:02] That's just not a normal reaction.

[00:26:03] 7-0-4-5-7-0-11-10.

[00:26:05] Chris is hanging on line one.

[00:26:07] Chris, good afternoon.

[00:26:08] You're on WBT.

[00:26:09] Go ahead.

[00:26:10] Hey, man.

[00:26:11] I'm glad you took my call real quick.

[00:26:12] I just heard what you was talking about and I needed to tune in or chime in as a mental health and substance use therapist since 97.

[00:26:20] So I'm pretty experienced in that way, man.

[00:26:23] You're on to something really important.

[00:26:26] I have never in my entire career experienced the clinical level issues that I'm seeing with this.

[00:26:33] I mean, the things that you're talking about are really things that I see in my office.

[00:26:37] Husbands and wives, family members, estrangements.

[00:26:41] There's so much going on.

[00:26:42] And you're right.

[00:26:42] It really indicates like this is a major problem.

[00:26:45] But I really wanted to call in because it really slides both ways.

[00:26:51] In 2020, it was the opposite side that was really – I was seeing so many deep-laden clinical issues with people's fear and anxiety and all of this kind of thing.

[00:27:03] Now, of course, Trump wins and we've got the other side that's just swung to the other side of the pendulum.

[00:27:09] Other than social media, I think basically our whole human race is dealing with this information age and it's causing all kinds of clinical-level trouble.

[00:27:20] It's amazing.

[00:27:20] Well, Chris, and I'm glad you called it.

[00:27:22] I'm glad you bring that up.

[00:27:23] There's an acronym – well, it's not an acronym.

[00:27:26] There's kind of a slang term used for Gen Z, the youngest individuals.

[00:27:31] Some of them are referred to sometimes as doomers.

[00:27:35] And why is that the case?

[00:27:38] Because I think kind of what Chris was just talking about, you spend so much time on social media.

[00:27:44] And politics aside, you are constantly led to believe that your life is terrible.

[00:27:51] It's not going to get any better.

[00:27:53] And so you're constantly in a place of doom.

[00:27:56] That's why they're called doomers, which is, by the way, a terrible mindset to have.

[00:28:01] And when we're talking about – this is Gen Z we're talking about.

[00:28:05] Gen Z, the most recent generation, people born like after the year 97 or 98.

[00:28:11] That's what they think.

[00:28:13] That's their outlook on life is to believe that everything is doom and gloom.

[00:28:18] Just think about how that would make you feel as a person.

[00:28:21] You're 14, 15, 16 years old and you believe that anything going forward is just going to be doom and destruction.

[00:28:28] That's so damaging.

[00:28:31] And a lot of it comes from, in the case of this younger generation, these doomers, social media.

[00:28:38] It's incessant.

[00:28:39] For individuals like we were just covering this Huffington Post story on both sides of the aisle, sure.

[00:28:44] It's coming from cable news.

[00:28:46] It's coming from podcasts.

[00:28:47] And the echo chamber that people surround themselves in where anybody that is different than them is just an outcast.

[00:28:54] You don't interact with them.

[00:28:56] You don't see what they do.

[00:28:58] They almost don't even exist.

[00:29:01] And then when you have to face that reality, when you have to face these individuals, or God forbid, in the case of politics, your presidential candidate loses,

[00:29:12] you just have no way to handle it at all.

[00:29:14] That's a really tough and awful situation to be in.