Carolina Journal host Nick Craig filling in for Pete Kaliner, talking about liberal media meltdowns and infighting since voters overwhelmingly chose President-elect Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, Trump cabinet appointments, and Trump facing media opposition over the stopping of illegal immigration and potential repatriation of millions of illegal immigrants.
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[00:00:00] So we're about, what, two weeks removed from the presidential election as the clock ticks over in 12 hours from now. We'll be two full weeks removed from the election. And you're very familiar with the rhetoric leading up to the election. How it was the democracy, right, was on the ballot. And it would seemingly be the end of America, end of, in many cases, the world, if Donald Trump was elected president.
[00:00:27] Now, irregardless that he'd already been in the Oval Office for four years and the world didn't come to an end. It wasn't any new wars started. It wasn't U.S. service members being blown to bits out in an Afghanistani airport. Right, none of that happened when he was in the Oval Office.
[00:00:44] But we were set to believe, if the American people, frustrated by the complete and total incompetence of the Biden-Harris administration, if they chose Trump, it would all come crumbling down.
[00:00:57] To bits. Just the whole world gone. And so that was the rhetoric for pretty much the entire election cycle. The Democrats really didn't have a whole lot to run on.
[00:01:08] Their strategies and platforms were, for the most part, pretty weak and useless, ineffective. And, well, we saw that, Trump winning all seven swing states.
[00:01:19] And so now here we are, almost two weeks removed. And it's amazing, because the guy that was supposed to end the world, Trump, now seemingly is going to be in the good graces of the same individuals that talked about the end of democracy, the end of the world, if he were to win.
[00:01:37] I'm sure you weren't this morning, but if you were watching the Morning Joe program, which airs over on MSNBC.
[00:01:45] Sorry if you wake yourself up to that program. It's got to be a rough way to start the day.
[00:01:51] These are the individuals that were kind of leading this charge, right? With the constant fear-mongering about Trump.
[00:01:59] So, to my surprise, I saw this clip of the Morning Joe program on MSNBC this morning. And I want you to take a listen. And again, remember the rhetoric before the election, right?
[00:02:14] Remember that when you're listening to Mika and Joe discuss, well, their busy weekend.
[00:02:19] Asked and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the president-elect himself. On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago to meet personally with president-elect Trump. It was the first time we have seen him in seven years.
[00:02:41] Now, we talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents, and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit.
[00:02:52] And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade, that we didn't see eye-to-eye on a lot of issues. And we told him so.
[00:03:06] What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike.
[00:03:21] We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania.
[00:03:34] In this meeting, President Trump was cheerful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues.
[00:03:45] And for those asking why we would go speak to the president-elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't we?
[00:03:57] Well, yeah. I mean, I have that question. You guys claim that this guy was Hitler for the last two or three years.
[00:04:06] So I think it is absolutely a valid question to ask why you would go meet with the guy that you said was going to destroy the country and destroy the world.
[00:04:14] Now, of course, Mika Brzezinski references her father, who was the national security advisor under Jimmy Carter.
[00:04:21] Oh, well, sometimes you got to meet with your adversaries. Yeah, I agreed with that.
[00:04:25] I think that is generally a pretty good strategy to have.
[00:04:30] But doesn't it just prove the fact that the rhetoric that we heard during the election really wasn't all that accurate?
[00:04:38] That the individuals making these comments about the end of the democracy, the end of the world, comparing Trump to a fascist dictator,
[00:04:46] that they didn't believe a single word that they were saying?
[00:04:49] And that's my big takeaway from this.
[00:04:53] You can't sit here and tell me in good faith that the comments made by Joe and Mika over the last 6, 8, 10, 12 months, whatever,
[00:05:03] that those were legitimate gripes and concerns.
[00:05:06] Because if they were, they would have not even entertained the possibility of going to meet with Trump.
[00:05:16] Now, I'll say from Trump's vantage point, bravo.
[00:05:21] Because you absolutely clown these people and prove that they're nothing more than complete and total political hacks.
[00:05:29] And this is just, this is the example of that being the case.
[00:05:34] You even saw it with the picture last week.
[00:05:37] Was it Wednesday?
[00:05:38] Wednesday, when Trump made his way over to the White House to have lunch?
[00:05:42] I think lunch, maybe, with Biden?
[00:05:45] Sitting in front of that raging fireplace.
[00:05:47] Looked like somebody threw a bunch of gasoline in before they sat down.
[00:05:52] Why would Joe Biden entertain sitting down with Trump?
[00:05:55] Why would any Democrat that use the rhetoric that they have over the last couple of years,
[00:06:01] why would they entertain Trump?
[00:06:03] Why would you legitimize him?
[00:06:04] If I was a Democrat, fortunately I'm not.
[00:06:08] But if I was a Democrat and I truly believed those statements,
[00:06:12] I would be outraged by what I'm hearing from the individuals that I trusted.
[00:06:19] Because I would trust Morning Joe, the illustrious Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.
[00:06:25] I would trust in Joe Biden and the Vice President, Kamala Harris.
[00:06:30] I trust in them.
[00:06:34] And now they're just walking back all of this rhetoric?
[00:06:37] Why?
[00:06:37] If this guy's such a danger, shouldn't you amp it up?
[00:06:42] Kick up the fight to 12 or something like that?
[00:06:46] Folks, it's all wish casting.
[00:06:49] It's all gaslighting.
[00:06:52] Yet another example of things that you hear in the media,
[00:06:56] things that you hear from elected politicians changing on a dime.
[00:07:01] Because the conversations that they had,
[00:07:03] the words that they used to not only describe Trump,
[00:07:06] but his supporters,
[00:07:09] would make you think, and rightfully so,
[00:07:11] that these people would not even want to mutter his name,
[00:07:15] let alone go meet him at Mar-a-Lago?
[00:07:19] I can only imagine what the reaction was from tried and true Democrats
[00:07:24] listening to Morning Joe this morning.
[00:07:26] Their coffee.
[00:07:30] Listening to them describe meeting him at Mar-a-Lago.
[00:07:33] Flabbergasted.
[00:07:34] Might be the word to use.
[00:07:37] It's, I laugh because it is kind of ironic,
[00:07:41] it's kind of funny.
[00:07:42] But in the grand scheme of things,
[00:07:44] it's a really sad sign.
[00:07:46] And a really sad sign of the times, politically.
[00:07:49] I got a tweet during the break.
[00:07:51] If you'd like to jump in on the show,
[00:07:53] you can send me a message over on Twitter,
[00:07:55] at Nicholas M. Craig,
[00:07:56] or give us a call, 704-570-1110.
[00:08:00] That's 704-570-1110.
[00:08:03] It's a message from Steve on Twitter.
[00:08:05] And this is in regards to the clip we played in the last segment
[00:08:09] of Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski
[00:08:11] saying that they had a wonderful weekend
[00:08:14] visiting Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
[00:08:16] He says, Nick, we should encourage people
[00:08:18] to work with President Trump.
[00:08:20] And Steve, I'm in complete and total agreement with you.
[00:08:25] But I'm asking this from the vantage point of somebody
[00:08:28] that believes the kinds of comments,
[00:08:32] the words that came out of Mika Brzezinski,
[00:08:35] Joe Scarborough,
[00:08:36] and you can name dozens of other left-wing pundits
[00:08:40] over the last couple of years.
[00:08:42] They told you, as a voter,
[00:08:45] as a citizen of America,
[00:08:46] as a citizen of the United States,
[00:08:49] that Donald Trump was akin to somebody like Adolf Hitler.
[00:08:53] That he was akin to a fascist.
[00:08:55] That he was going to destroy the country
[00:08:58] if he was elected.
[00:09:00] He was going to strip away rights.
[00:09:03] If you're a woman,
[00:09:04] you're going to become a second-class citizen.
[00:09:06] All of these things.
[00:09:07] This was the rhetoric from these individuals.
[00:09:10] Presumably they believed it.
[00:09:13] I'm not going to speak for them,
[00:09:14] but I'll speak for myself.
[00:09:15] When I say things,
[00:09:16] I mean them.
[00:09:18] I'm not going to say things.
[00:09:19] I'm not going to tell somebody things
[00:09:21] if I don't believe them.
[00:09:23] This has gone on for years now
[00:09:25] about Trump.
[00:09:27] I mean, just weeks ago,
[00:09:29] these two individuals were crying
[00:09:32] about how Trump's a fascist
[00:09:34] and it's going to destroy the country.
[00:09:36] And now that he won
[00:09:37] in a landslide election,
[00:09:40] first time a Republican
[00:09:42] has won the popular vote
[00:09:43] in what, 20 years?
[00:09:44] I think 04 with Bush?
[00:09:46] Now all of a sudden,
[00:09:48] the fascist isn't that bad?
[00:09:50] Now all of a sudden,
[00:09:52] Mika and Joe are excited
[00:09:53] to open the lines of communication
[00:09:55] with Trump?
[00:09:57] And so you have to ask yourself
[00:09:59] a couple of questions
[00:10:01] in regards to this.
[00:10:03] For individuals like Joe and Mika,
[00:10:07] the morning Joe over on MSNBC,
[00:10:10] there's a couple of things
[00:10:11] you have to wonder.
[00:10:12] Either A,
[00:10:13] did they not believe
[00:10:14] a single word coming out of their mouth
[00:10:16] the entire election cycle?
[00:10:17] And were they just feeding into
[00:10:20] Democrat left-wing talking points?
[00:10:23] That's presumably
[00:10:24] a real possibility.
[00:10:26] Number two,
[00:10:27] do they just not have
[00:10:28] any morals at all?
[00:10:30] And they're excited
[00:10:31] to potentially be
[00:10:33] in the good graces of Trump?
[00:10:35] Because most of these guys
[00:10:37] in media,
[00:10:38] definitely with Joe and Mika,
[00:10:39] I mean,
[00:10:39] they're egotistical.
[00:10:41] So now that they,
[00:10:42] ooh, we might get
[00:10:43] to meet with Trump.
[00:10:44] Ooh, Trump might call
[00:10:45] into our morning show.
[00:10:46] Ooh, ooh, ooh,
[00:10:46] listen, listen, listen.
[00:10:47] We're going to have Trump
[00:10:48] on a morning show.
[00:10:49] This is very exciting for us.
[00:10:52] So,
[00:10:52] either they're liars,
[00:10:53] they have no morals,
[00:10:54] and those, I guess,
[00:10:55] could be the same.
[00:10:57] Or the third one,
[00:11:00] which might be
[00:11:00] the most interesting
[00:11:01] out of all of them.
[00:11:03] Is it
[00:11:04] the case
[00:11:07] that these individuals,
[00:11:09] like Joe and Mika,
[00:11:11] like other left-wing
[00:11:12] media talking heads,
[00:11:14] that they truly
[00:11:15] just don't care at all?
[00:11:17] And I want,
[00:11:18] I'm starting to trend
[00:11:19] towards,
[00:11:20] and everything I've seen
[00:11:20] over the last two weeks
[00:11:22] is making me start
[00:11:24] to think that that
[00:11:24] is probably the most
[00:11:25] probable situation.
[00:11:29] That these individuals
[00:11:30] really don't care
[00:11:31] what they're saying.
[00:11:33] That they might just
[00:11:35] be kind of checked out
[00:11:36] in the whole process.
[00:11:38] But as long as
[00:11:40] what they're saying
[00:11:41] is amping up
[00:11:42] their audience,
[00:11:43] which, of course,
[00:11:43] on MSNBC
[00:11:44] is a bunch of
[00:11:45] individuals that fall
[00:11:46] very far left
[00:11:47] of the political center,
[00:11:49] as long as they're
[00:11:50] saying those things
[00:11:51] and keeping their
[00:11:52] supporters happy,
[00:11:54] then we're good to go.
[00:11:56] Doesn't really matter
[00:11:57] what we say.
[00:12:02] So with that being
[00:12:03] the case,
[00:12:04] the reaction
[00:12:05] is now coming in
[00:12:06] to Joe and Mika
[00:12:07] being on MSNBC.
[00:12:09] I got on his tweet
[00:12:10] during the break.
[00:12:11] You'll remember
[00:12:12] Keith Oberman,
[00:12:12] even though he has
[00:12:14] essentially fallen
[00:12:15] into non-examination
[00:12:16] resistance.
[00:12:17] Nobody really cares
[00:12:19] what he says.
[00:12:20] He, at one point,
[00:12:21] was relatively popular.
[00:12:23] People cared about
[00:12:24] what he was saying.
[00:12:26] He had some level
[00:12:27] of influence
[00:12:29] when he said things.
[00:12:30] People tended
[00:12:31] to look at it.
[00:12:32] He put this post
[00:12:33] out on X
[00:12:34] about two hours ago
[00:12:36] in response
[00:12:37] to this clip
[00:12:38] from MSNBC
[00:12:39] that we just played.
[00:12:41] And he says,
[00:12:42] why is anybody
[00:12:43] surprised?
[00:12:45] Since 1998,
[00:12:46] I've said Scarborough
[00:12:48] was the worst person
[00:12:50] I'd ever encountered
[00:12:51] in this business.
[00:12:52] He proves me right
[00:12:54] year after year.
[00:12:57] The worst person
[00:12:59] Keith Oberman
[00:13:00] has ever encountered.
[00:13:02] So now,
[00:13:04] you've got a situation
[00:13:06] where these factions
[00:13:08] are now attacking
[00:13:09] each other.
[00:13:10] And back to
[00:13:11] Steve's tweet,
[00:13:13] which came in
[00:13:14] during the break
[00:13:14] at Nicholas
[00:13:15] M. Craig
[00:13:16] on X.
[00:13:18] Steve,
[00:13:19] I do hope
[00:13:19] that people
[00:13:21] can work together.
[00:13:22] I do hope,
[00:13:23] truly,
[00:13:24] that we can
[00:13:24] turn down
[00:13:25] the rhetoric
[00:13:26] because I think
[00:13:26] it's good
[00:13:27] for our country.
[00:13:29] I just wonder
[00:13:30] how individuals
[00:13:31] that have spent
[00:13:32] years foaming
[00:13:33] at the mouth
[00:13:34] about the guy
[00:13:35] who just won
[00:13:36] the presidential election
[00:13:37] two weeks ago,
[00:13:38] how they are going
[00:13:40] to try and convince
[00:13:41] their audience
[00:13:43] that everything
[00:13:44] that they have said
[00:13:45] about Trump
[00:13:45] is now null and void.
[00:13:47] Because that's
[00:13:48] the only way
[00:13:50] that any of this
[00:13:51] makes any sense.
[00:13:53] It's the only way
[00:13:54] that you can justify
[00:13:57] having him on.
[00:13:58] Because presumably
[00:13:59] that's what Joe
[00:14:00] and Mika want,
[00:14:01] right?
[00:14:01] She even said it,
[00:14:02] we've opened the lines
[00:14:03] of communication.
[00:14:04] Why?
[00:14:05] Because you want
[00:14:06] to talk to him.
[00:14:07] You want him to call
[00:14:09] into your morning show
[00:14:09] program,
[00:14:10] which nobody faults
[00:14:12] them for.
[00:14:12] Of course you'd want
[00:14:13] to speak to the
[00:14:13] sitting president
[00:14:14] of the United States.
[00:14:18] So then you just
[00:14:19] gaslit your audience
[00:14:20] for the past
[00:14:20] two plus years.
[00:14:22] And that's going
[00:14:22] to be a really
[00:14:23] hard pill to swallow
[00:14:25] for so many
[00:14:26] of these folks
[00:14:26] that are infatuated
[00:14:28] with the talking
[00:14:29] heads on MSNBC
[00:14:30] and believed
[00:14:30] every word
[00:14:31] that they said
[00:14:32] hook, line, and sinker.
[00:14:34] And now you've got
[00:14:35] individuals like
[00:14:35] Keith Oberman
[00:14:36] and others
[00:14:37] attacking them
[00:14:38] for having the audacity
[00:14:40] to go and sit down
[00:14:41] and can you believe
[00:14:42] it folks?
[00:14:43] Have a conversation
[00:14:44] with the president-elect,
[00:14:46] the guy that will be
[00:14:47] in the Oval Office
[00:14:48] coming up in
[00:14:48] what about
[00:14:49] a little less than
[00:14:50] two and a half months?
[00:14:51] I want to talk about
[00:14:52] a couple more
[00:14:52] Trump appointments.
[00:14:54] This has been
[00:14:54] really good to see.
[00:14:56] For the most part,
[00:14:57] these appointments
[00:14:58] I think have been
[00:14:59] largely supported.
[00:15:00] There's a couple
[00:15:01] of folks that
[00:15:02] you're starting
[00:15:02] to see some
[00:15:03] rumblings within
[00:15:04] Republican and
[00:15:05] conservative factions
[00:15:06] on, but for the
[00:15:07] most part,
[00:15:08] these appointments
[00:15:08] have been really
[00:15:09] strong and we got
[00:15:10] a great one
[00:15:11] over the weekend
[00:15:12] and it's relevant
[00:15:13] for all of you
[00:15:14] radio lovers.
[00:15:15] The head of the FCC,
[00:15:18] this is a big position.
[00:15:20] Brandon Carr
[00:15:21] has been tapped
[00:15:22] for that position.
[00:15:23] He is currently
[00:15:23] the senior Republican
[00:15:25] on the FCC.
[00:15:26] He's not in the majority
[00:15:27] as you can imagine
[00:15:28] as the commissioner
[00:15:29] is appointed
[00:15:30] by the current president.
[00:15:32] That would be Joe Biden,
[00:15:33] so it's a Democrat
[00:15:34] currently leading the FCC.
[00:15:35] But I want to read through
[00:15:37] Trump's statement
[00:15:38] on this.
[00:15:38] This came out
[00:15:39] yesterday evening.
[00:15:40] It says,
[00:15:41] I'm pleased to announce
[00:15:42] that Commissioner
[00:15:43] Brandon Carr
[00:15:44] will be the chairman
[00:15:45] of the Federal
[00:15:45] Communications Commission.
[00:15:47] Commissioner Carr
[00:15:48] currently serves
[00:15:49] as the senior Republican
[00:15:50] on the FCC.
[00:15:51] Before that,
[00:15:52] he was the FCC's
[00:15:53] general counsel.
[00:15:55] I first nominated
[00:15:56] Commissioner Carr
[00:15:56] to the FCC in 2017
[00:15:58] and he had been
[00:16:00] confirmed unanimously
[00:16:01] by the United States
[00:16:02] Senate three times.
[00:16:04] His current term
[00:16:05] runs through 2029
[00:16:06] and because of his
[00:16:07] great work,
[00:16:08] I will now be
[00:16:09] designating him
[00:16:10] as the permanent chairman.
[00:16:12] Commissioner Carr
[00:16:13] is a warrior
[00:16:14] for free speech
[00:16:15] and has fought
[00:16:16] against the regulatory
[00:16:17] lawfare that has
[00:16:18] stifled American freedoms
[00:16:20] and held back
[00:16:21] our economy.
[00:16:22] He will end
[00:16:23] the regulatory onslaught
[00:16:24] that has been
[00:16:25] crippling America's
[00:16:26] job creation
[00:16:27] and innovators
[00:16:28] and ensure that
[00:16:29] the FCC delivers
[00:16:30] for rural America.
[00:16:32] That's a big point
[00:16:33] right there.
[00:16:33] Commissioner Carr
[00:16:34] has served
[00:16:35] at the FCC
[00:16:36] since 2012
[00:16:37] including as an advisor
[00:16:38] to the FCC chairman
[00:16:39] Ajit Pai at the time.
[00:16:41] Earlier in his career
[00:16:42] Commissioner Carr
[00:16:43] worked as an attorney
[00:16:44] specializing in a whole
[00:16:46] bunch of different
[00:16:46] regulations
[00:16:47] and this is really
[00:16:48] great news
[00:16:49] because the FCC
[00:16:50] well they control
[00:16:51] a couple of things.
[00:16:53] The biggest of course
[00:16:54] would be licenses
[00:16:55] to traditional
[00:16:56] television broadcast
[00:16:58] radio stations
[00:16:59] like WBT
[00:17:00] and we've seen
[00:17:02] some very interesting
[00:17:03] decisions
[00:17:04] from the Biden FCC
[00:17:06] over the last
[00:17:07] couple of years.
[00:17:09] The biggest
[00:17:10] and probably
[00:17:10] the controversy
[00:17:11] you heard
[00:17:12] a little bit about
[00:17:13] was the decision
[00:17:14] to sell
[00:17:15] a large portion
[00:17:17] of audio operator
[00:17:18] Odyssey
[00:17:18] to a group
[00:17:20] that George Soros
[00:17:21] is the primary
[00:17:22] funder behind.
[00:17:23] And while
[00:17:24] you might say
[00:17:25] well what's
[00:17:26] controversial
[00:17:26] about that?
[00:17:27] It has to do
[00:17:28] with foreign
[00:17:29] ownership
[00:17:29] and there are
[00:17:30] FCC rules
[00:17:31] that are in place
[00:17:32] that set up
[00:17:33] certain procedures
[00:17:35] that need to be
[00:17:36] followed
[00:17:36] or should be
[00:17:37] followed
[00:17:37] when you're
[00:17:38] talking about
[00:17:39] opening up
[00:17:40] an American
[00:17:41] broadcast company
[00:17:42] in the case
[00:17:43] of television
[00:17:43] and radio stations
[00:17:44] here in America
[00:17:45] to a larger
[00:17:47] share of foreign
[00:17:48] ownership
[00:17:48] anything over
[00:17:49] 25%.
[00:17:50] Now there is
[00:17:51] rulemaking
[00:17:52] for that.
[00:17:53] There is a process
[00:17:54] that is supposed
[00:17:55] to be followed
[00:17:56] but as I'm sure
[00:17:57] you can imagine
[00:17:58] that process
[00:17:58] was not followed
[00:18:00] in the last
[00:18:01] couple of weeks
[00:18:02] and this happened
[00:18:03] just before the
[00:18:03] election.
[00:18:04] where you had
[00:18:05] Soros' group
[00:18:06] take over a
[00:18:07] large chunk
[00:18:08] of Odyssey
[00:18:09] who's in
[00:18:09] bankruptcy
[00:18:10] or was in
[00:18:10] bankruptcy
[00:18:11] I'm not sure
[00:18:11] if they've
[00:18:12] come out of
[00:18:12] that or not
[00:18:13] and they're
[00:18:13] in their
[00:18:14] restructuring
[00:18:14] phase.
[00:18:16] So that's
[00:18:16] a big one
[00:18:17] and we've
[00:18:18] also heard
[00:18:18] Trump
[00:18:19] in his
[00:18:19] conversations
[00:18:20] about the
[00:18:21] media
[00:18:22] traditional
[00:18:22] mainstream
[00:18:23] television
[00:18:23] outlets
[00:18:23] that in
[00:18:24] fact do
[00:18:24] have a
[00:18:24] license
[00:18:25] to operate
[00:18:25] from the
[00:18:26] Federal
[00:18:26] Communications
[00:18:27] Commission
[00:18:27] from the
[00:18:28] federal
[00:18:28] government
[00:18:29] but there
[00:18:30] was another
[00:18:30] thing in
[00:18:31] Trump's
[00:18:31] statement
[00:18:31] talking about
[00:18:32] delivering for
[00:18:33] rural Americans
[00:18:34] and that's a
[00:18:35] big one.
[00:18:36] We saw through
[00:18:37] this disastrous
[00:18:38] bipartisan
[00:18:39] infrastructure act
[00:18:41] which I think
[00:18:42] is clear to
[00:18:43] say that
[00:18:44] big cable
[00:18:45] companies and
[00:18:46] big internet
[00:18:47] service provider
[00:18:48] companies lobbied
[00:18:50] the FCC for
[00:18:51] them to get
[00:18:52] all of the
[00:18:52] money.
[00:18:53] When you think
[00:18:55] areas that
[00:18:56] don't have
[00:18:57] immediate access
[00:18:58] to high speed
[00:18:59] internet you
[00:19:00] would look at
[00:19:01] solutions like
[00:19:01] oh I don't
[00:19:02] know there's
[00:19:03] this little
[00:19:03] service it
[00:19:04] was super
[00:19:04] helpful in
[00:19:05] western North
[00:19:06] Carolina the
[00:19:07] guy that owns
[00:19:08] it is he does
[00:19:09] the electric cars
[00:19:10] what is his
[00:19:11] name?
[00:19:11] Ah yes Elon
[00:19:12] Musk he has
[00:19:14] delivered on
[00:19:16] rural broadband
[00:19:17] he's done a
[00:19:18] phenomenal job
[00:19:19] with it and we
[00:19:20] saw the impacts
[00:19:22] of that in our
[00:19:23] own state about
[00:19:23] seven weeks ago
[00:19:26] where infrastructure
[00:19:27] power infrastructure
[00:19:28] is down sewer and
[00:19:30] water infrastructures
[00:19:31] down of course
[00:19:32] phone lines and
[00:19:33] internet service
[00:19:33] completely wiped
[00:19:34] off what
[00:19:35] happened?
[00:19:36] You had
[00:19:37] individuals flying
[00:19:39] in Starlinks to
[00:19:41] these areas which
[00:19:42] use low orbit
[00:19:43] satellites to
[00:19:44] deliver high speed
[00:19:45] internet and for
[00:19:47] some individuals it
[00:19:48] was the first
[00:19:49] communication they
[00:19:49] had had to the
[00:19:50] outside world in
[00:19:51] weeks we're talking
[00:19:52] three four weeks
[00:19:53] after this storm
[00:19:54] passed they would
[00:19:55] finally get a drop
[00:19:56] shipment of Starlink
[00:19:57] into their small
[00:19:58] community but no
[00:20:00] the federal government
[00:20:01] did not choose
[00:20:02] Starlink for this
[00:20:03] rural internet
[00:20:04] rollout they chose
[00:20:06] big cable and
[00:20:07] internet companies to
[00:20:08] do the work why?
[00:20:10] Well because they
[00:20:11] lobbied for it even
[00:20:13] though it's way more
[00:20:15] expensive to do that
[00:20:16] than to roll out a
[00:20:17] you know a thing
[00:20:18] that's the size of
[00:20:19] what an iPad like
[00:20:21] that's about how
[00:20:21] big the Starlink
[00:20:22] dish is instead of
[00:20:24] rolling that out to
[00:20:25] areas that are rural
[00:20:27] in nature and it
[00:20:27] doesn't make sense
[00:20:28] to trench fiber for
[00:20:30] dozens of miles to
[00:20:32] connect 16 homes at
[00:20:33] the top of a hill
[00:20:34] the federal government
[00:20:35] chose to deny
[00:20:36] Starlink's application
[00:20:38] for that and give it
[00:20:39] to these other major
[00:20:40] companies and that
[00:20:43] is not I mean it's
[00:20:45] just the case of
[00:20:46] government picking
[00:20:48] winners and losers
[00:20:48] and not the best
[00:20:50] solution if you're
[00:20:53] living in a super
[00:20:53] remote area does it
[00:20:55] make sense to trench
[00:20:56] and bury a bunch of
[00:20:57] cable or provide you
[00:20:59] with something that
[00:21:00] is wireless whether
[00:21:01] that be satellite
[00:21:02] internet or whether
[00:21:04] that be something like
[00:21:05] a 4G or 5G hotspot
[00:21:08] I think the answer is
[00:21:09] pretty clear so
[00:21:10] continuing on this
[00:21:11] thread with the
[00:21:12] Trump appointees and
[00:21:14] I'd be curious what
[00:21:15] your thoughts are on
[00:21:16] it I mean for the
[00:21:17] most part I think
[00:21:18] we're heading in an
[00:21:20] absolutely fantastic
[00:21:21] direction right there
[00:21:22] there was a lot of
[00:21:23] criticism of Trump's
[00:21:24] first term and I
[00:21:26] guess maybe the first
[00:21:27] two years 2016 to
[00:21:28] 2018 that he didn't
[00:21:30] surround himself
[00:21:31] necessarily with the
[00:21:33] best individuals and
[00:21:35] because there's such a
[00:21:36] learning curve you're
[00:21:37] talking about at the
[00:21:38] time a guy who won
[00:21:40] the presidential election
[00:21:41] in 2016 who had
[00:21:43] never been in
[00:21:43] government before he
[00:21:45] had spent time around
[00:21:46] government he had
[00:21:47] spent time interfacing and
[00:21:49] dealing with government
[00:21:50] whether it was building
[00:21:51] permits in New York
[00:21:53] City or across the rest
[00:21:54] of the country but
[00:21:56] had never been in it
[00:21:57] and there was a lot of
[00:21:58] individuals that tried
[00:22:00] hitching their trailer to
[00:22:02] the what is the what
[00:22:03] was the Trump campaign
[00:22:04] and then the Trump
[00:22:05] administration that
[00:22:06] probably didn't have the
[00:22:07] same interests that you
[00:22:09] and I did and we saw
[00:22:10] some of that shake out
[00:22:12] and there was a lot of
[00:22:13] concern and I think
[00:22:15] rightfully so with this
[00:22:16] second administration
[00:22:18] coming forward whether
[00:22:19] that was going to be
[00:22:20] the same case and yes
[00:22:23] it's only been two
[00:22:23] weeks but I think it's
[00:22:25] fair to say that as of
[00:22:26] this afternoon and what
[00:22:28] we've seen really since
[00:22:29] last I guess Monday or so
[00:22:32] is really when these
[00:22:32] appointments started
[00:22:33] kicking up that for the
[00:22:35] most part it seems like
[00:22:37] Trump has got the right
[00:22:38] people in his ear which
[00:22:40] I'm glad that's the
[00:22:41] case because it's one
[00:22:43] thing to run and campaign
[00:22:45] on something it's another
[00:22:47] to actually put it into
[00:22:49] effect and it's hard to
[00:22:51] put a lot of this stuff
[00:22:52] into effect folks
[00:22:54] government isn't easy for
[00:22:55] a reason government is
[00:22:58] very complicated for a
[00:22:59] reason red tape is what
[00:23:02] it is and government
[00:23:04] filibustering is what it
[00:23:05] is for a good reason it's
[00:23:07] to make sure that somebody
[00:23:07] can't make dramatic dramatic
[00:23:09] and drastic changes
[00:23:10] somebody like Trump I don't
[00:23:14] think though that it's
[00:23:15] going to be super effective
[00:23:16] this time I think he
[00:23:18] really has his eye on the
[00:23:20] prize and you know what
[00:23:22] does that mean I think
[00:23:25] there's a couple of
[00:23:26] things I think obviously
[00:23:29] the first and the biggest
[00:23:29] and the one that is likely
[00:23:31] to get the largest amount
[00:23:32] of media attention is what
[00:23:34] Trump plans on doing with
[00:23:36] illegal immigration that
[00:23:38] was a major talking point
[00:23:40] during the election cycle
[00:23:41] and for good reason you
[00:23:45] you look at the numbers
[00:23:46] that at least are reported
[00:23:48] which we know are
[00:23:49] undoubtedly under what
[00:23:52] the practicality of the
[00:23:54] situation is hundreds of
[00:23:55] thousands millions of
[00:23:57] individuals crossing the
[00:23:58] border depending on what
[00:23:59] time span you look at
[00:24:02] that's going to be one of
[00:24:03] the first things that he's
[00:24:04] probably going to tackle
[00:24:05] pretty heavily
[00:24:06] we're learning some new and
[00:24:09] additional details this
[00:24:10] morning that Trump
[00:24:11] confirms that he does plan
[00:24:13] on preparing to declare a
[00:24:15] national emergency
[00:24:17] which is significant he
[00:24:22] apparently was posting
[00:24:23] some things on on true
[00:24:25] social very very early this
[00:24:27] morning talking about
[00:24:29] declaring a national
[00:24:30] emergency and potentially
[00:24:32] using military assets to
[00:24:34] deal with this situation
[00:24:35] that has been created by
[00:24:37] the Democrats in the Biden
[00:24:38] Harris administration and
[00:24:43] that's that's substantial
[00:24:45] that's something that he
[00:24:47] campaigned very heavily on
[00:24:49] now how does this actually
[00:24:51] shake out what does he
[00:24:53] actually do with these tens of
[00:24:57] thousands hundreds of
[00:24:58] thousands of individuals
[00:24:59] well that probably remains
[00:25:02] unseen as of right now I'm
[00:25:04] sure there are some very high
[00:25:05] level talks going on to
[00:25:07] figure out the process for
[00:25:08] this because I can guarantee
[00:25:10] you the media coverage of
[00:25:12] that is going to be
[00:25:15] incredibly incredibly
[00:25:16] unfriendly to Trump I
[00:25:20] mean don't you even
[00:25:20] remember the whole children
[00:25:22] in cages hoax the first
[00:25:24] time he was in the Oval
[00:25:25] Office and that was a
[00:25:28] complete and total hoax that
[00:25:30] was run by the media and
[00:25:32] of course all the photo ops
[00:25:34] down on the border AOC down
[00:25:36] there with what a $10,000
[00:25:39] $15,000 belt and pair of
[00:25:41] jeans on visiting this media
[00:25:45] really many reaction to this
[00:25:47] is not going to be friendly
[00:25:48] at all and I've heard some
[00:25:50] interesting conversation about
[00:25:52] you know media reaction and
[00:25:53] earlier we were talking
[00:25:54] about Scarborough and Mika
[00:25:55] Brzezinski going and
[00:25:57] meeting Trump at Mar-a-Lago
[00:25:58] over the weekend you know the
[00:25:59] whole media angle is an
[00:26:00] interesting one I think in
[00:26:03] large part Trump does try to
[00:26:05] win over media support he's a
[00:26:07] media guy after all he loves
[00:26:09] the spotlight for better or
[00:26:11] for worse I'm not opining an
[00:26:13] opinion on that it's just the
[00:26:14] truth he's a media guy he
[00:26:16] loves that stuff and I think
[00:26:19] you can point to some
[00:26:20] examples in the 2016 to 2020
[00:26:23] terms of Trump in which he
[00:26:25] may have gone maybe I
[00:26:28] shouldn't say soft or weak
[00:26:29] but try doing things in a way
[00:26:31] to appease the media and I
[00:26:33] media we put that in air
[00:26:35] quotes I'm not sure that you're
[00:26:39] going to see that same thing
[00:26:40] this go-around because if
[00:26:42] Trump learned nothing from
[00:26:45] the first four years in the
[00:26:46] Oval Office hopefully he
[00:26:48] learned and I think he has and
[00:26:49] you've kind of seen it with
[00:26:50] reactions over the last couple
[00:26:52] of years the media will never
[00:26:54] be friendly towards him let me
[00:26:56] repeat myself the media will
[00:26:59] never be friendly to somebody
[00:27:01] like Donald Trump it's just not
[00:27:04] going to happen it's not in
[00:27:06] their nature now things could be
[00:27:09] different this go-around I'm open
[00:27:11] to that I'm hopeful maybe the
[00:27:13] media can step away from their
[00:27:15] derangement syndrome that they've
[00:27:17] got and actually report on what's
[00:27:19] going on actually cover the things
[00:27:22] that are happening that affect oh I
[00:27:24] don't know my life your life
[00:27:26] everybody who's listening lives
[00:27:27] your families I mean that it would
[00:27:30] be nice to be able to turn on the
[00:27:31] news and actually see what's going
[00:27:34] on instead of some pontification
[00:27:37] from some 30 or 40 year political
[00:27:39] expert you know that of course
[00:27:41] that was wrong about the entire
[00:27:42] election cycle and everything else
[00:27:45] be nice to just know what's
[00:27:47] happening so that oh I don't know
[00:27:49] maybe you could make up your own
[00:27:51] mind about it so maybe you could
[00:27:53] have an opinion on what's going on
[00:27:55] without being told that this is the
[00:27:57] worst thing that's ever happened to
[00:27:59] the country that this is gonna have
[00:28:01] grave impacts grave effects on the
[00:28:05] nation of Trump and his radicals go
[00:28:07] forward with whatever it is which was
[00:28:10] exactly what the media coverage was
[00:28:13] for the first four years of the Trump
[00:28:14] administration I mean the guy couldn't
[00:28:17] use the bathroom without it being a
[00:28:19] national media story and an eight
[00:28:21] person panel on CNN a pining about
[00:28:24] how that was good or bad about what
[00:28:27] does this mean for the nation that's
[00:28:31] that's what that's what these people
[00:28:32] do and so it's gonna be very
[00:28:35] interesting to see obviously now about
[00:28:37] two weeks removed or so we're seeing
[00:28:39] that you know somebody like Mika and
[00:28:41] Joe they're trying to maybe cozy up to
[00:28:44] Trump a little bit maybe try and get a
[00:28:46] little bit on the inner circle so they
[00:28:48] can get some exclusives with the
[00:28:50] president but I hope for the large
[00:28:52] part Trump kind of nullifies the
[00:28:55] mainstream media
[00:28:55] media