NC's constitutional question and a bond break down (10-22-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] Regarding the caller at the end of the last hour, Dean, Mark says, I think Dean is Tony Light.

[00:00:39] That's why I always say make the assertion, just state the case, you know, make the case. Last hour, we were talking about the state constitutional amendment that is up for voters to decide. One might call that a democracy.

[00:00:53] But that's the that those are the rules for amending the state constitution, right? You put it to the voters to decide and they are doing that.

[00:01:03] And they're they want to try to head off any attempt by Democrats to if they get win back control of the legislative body.

[00:01:12] They want to prevent that future legislature from having a very easy time allowing noncitizens to vote.

[00:01:22] Once again, if you're like Dean and you believe that future legislatures should be unencumbered.

[00:01:31] By the constitutional provision, right, or the Constitution, I guess, in general, but, you know, if you you want it easier for that democratically elected body to run a bill.

[00:01:43] If you want to change the law and allow noncitizens to vote in local elections, city, county school board races, then you would vote against this constitutional provision because this amendment, if approved by us voters, would codify it into the Constitution.

[00:02:00] And that would make it much harder for any future legislature to to change it.

[00:02:07] You would have to go back to the voters and try to repeal it.

[00:02:09] And that's a harder thing to do. And so if you want to make it harder for future legislature from allowing or to allow noncitizens to vote in local races, then you would vote for this amendment to make it harder.

[00:02:26] Now, maybe you're against illegal aliens voting, but you still don't want it codified in the Constitution.

[00:02:32] Well, then you would vote against it also. OK, this is a preemptive step.

[00:02:38] Republicans recognize that they may not control the legislature for, you know, 150 years like Democrats did.

[00:02:45] And so they want to put it in place that you can't do what we are seeing happen all over the country.

[00:02:51] Democrats are allowing illegal aliens, noncitizens to vote in their local elections.

[00:02:57] Because they can't do it at the federal level. They haven't changed that yet.

[00:03:02] So that's what this constitutional amendment is about.

[00:03:07] Let me go to James here. Hello, James. Welcome to the program.

[00:03:11] Hey, your your previous caller, Dean, was it?

[00:03:15] Dean, yes.

[00:03:16] He kept carrying on about the democratic process.

[00:03:20] Right. Yeah.

[00:03:22] We're not a democracy. We're a republic.

[00:03:24] No, but yes, that's true. But it is a but it is a democratic process.

[00:03:30] Well, not exactly.

[00:03:32] A democracy is three wolves in the sheep deciding what they're going to have for lunch, according to Winston Churchill.

[00:03:38] Indeed. I've quoted the line in many, many, many, many, many, many times over the last 30 years in on the radio.

[00:03:45] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:03:46] But that's exactly that's exactly what happens in a legislative body when all you and that's why I laid out the example of like if, you know, if they were to pass it in each chamber by just a single vote.

[00:03:58] Right. Right.

[00:03:59] Then that would be the right.

[00:04:01] That's a democratic process.

[00:04:02] They could pass that law and that would be a democratic process.

[00:04:07] And it would be the equivalent of the wolves in lamb dining.

[00:04:11] Except for one small problem. Both the United States and the great state of North Carolina have a constitution which limits what both the federal government, the state government and for that matter, local governments are allowed to do.

[00:04:29] So, yes and no. Yes, they do limit the powers of the government. I agree.

[00:04:34] We're not talking about the federal elections because I know those are separate. Right.

[00:04:39] OK, so and that and by the way, that would be a problem if the Democrats ever did try to do non-citizen voting in local elections, like try to explain to people when they go in to vote and they're given a ballot and they're like, OK, don't but don't fill in these races.

[00:04:54] Right. Don't vote for Congress and don't vote for president. You're going to vote for these other races.

[00:04:59] It's just it's a stupid idea. But but the the state constitution does not have this provision in it.

[00:05:07] And so this is identified as a weakness in the state constitution. So so putting it into the constitution would do precisely what it is that you're saying.

[00:05:17] Well, you and I view it as a weakness. Obviously, Dean does not view it as a weakness.

[00:05:23] He believes that when I get very nervous when I hear someone arguing, quote unquote, democratic process.

[00:05:32] Indeed. Indeed. Which basically means, oh, we're going to get the mob together and storm the baskins.

[00:05:38] And what we demand is what you're going to do. Right. It's right.

[00:05:41] It's sort of the same kind of deal as the the packing of the U.S. Supreme Court. Right.

[00:05:47] It's this idea that once we can get just the slimmest of majorities, we are going to turn over the table.

[00:05:53] Like if you don't like the way the game is being played, just turn over the table. Right.

[00:05:57] Just just flip the game board. And that's and that's essentially what they're talking about doing.

[00:06:02] As soon as they can get a slim majority, then they will rule.

[00:06:05] And that's yeah. And so that, yes, they achieve it through the, quote, democratic process.

[00:06:11] Yeah, except it's actually. It's you know what what it's the democratic process equates to mob rule.

[00:06:20] It's right. Essentially, which is why we are a nation of law. Right.

[00:06:24] Like that's that's why you have the Constitution.

[00:06:27] And that's why the legislature right now is going through this process to codify the thing, to make it harder to change under the law.

[00:06:35] I mean, it is correct that if you want if you wanted to change the law to let noncitizens vote, you could do that right now in the state of North Carolina.

[00:06:43] Only for the local races. But you could do that. And what the Republicans are saying is we want a protection because it is this is too important of a thing to just leave it up to be changed.

[00:06:54] Literally, it could change every two years whenever a legislative body turns over majority control.

[00:07:00] Right. And because then you have the Republicans coming back and saying no.

[00:07:03] And that's that is not a good, stable environment.

[00:07:07] One last question. Yeah. Why is it you and I understand this, but people like Dean don't?

[00:07:15] So I think a lot of this goes to motivated reasoning.

[00:07:20] They are they they are suspicious of the Republican intent.

[00:07:27] They read media or see media or hear it that tells them they are right to be suspicious and that they are to assume the absolute worst motive of all Republican lawmakers.

[00:07:38] So anything that they put forward is going to be just sort of by default a bad idea.

[00:07:42] And then you have to try to overcome that default position in explaining and persuading like, no, this is actually a good thing.

[00:07:50] And so and I don't know what Dean's motives are or anything like that, but I think it's motivated reasoning in that they start from a premise that this is a bad idea because it came from the Republicans.

[00:08:00] And so all of their arguments are crafted to try to get them to that place.

[00:08:05] Right. To explain, to justify and rationalize their opposition to it.

[00:08:10] I think that's back in back when I was a kid, my people in the South called it the yellow dog Democrat.

[00:08:18] Yeah, they vote for a yellow dog Democrat.

[00:08:21] Yes, sir. James, I appreciate it.

[00:08:23] And look, people use motivated reasoning all the time, left and right.

[00:08:28] MAGA, anti-MAGA, dark Brandon, whatever.

[00:08:31] Everybody uses this.

[00:08:33] It's a difficult thing to completely avoid.

[00:08:35] But if you're aware of, you know, yourself doing it, that's the first step to try to break free of that tendency because it just becomes people do it so much that it just becomes automatic.

[00:08:48] It's, you know, if you're scrolling through your Facebook or Twitter or Instagram or whatever it is, you know, Tinder, I don't know.

[00:08:56] But you're scrolling through these apps and you are you see something that you don't agree with.

[00:09:04] Do you automatically be like, oh, there's an idiot to scroll past it or, you know, respond?

[00:09:10] You're an idiot, you know.

[00:09:12] If that's the immediate reaction is to automatically reject that or block the people so you don't see it, right?

[00:09:20] That's how easy it becomes with the motivated reasoning.

[00:09:25] I purposefully put stuff in my own Twitter feed that people, I follow people and I have them in my list that I follow specifically that I don't agree with.

[00:09:41] Because I want to hear what that argument is.

[00:09:44] I don't I because otherwise you just end up in an echo chamber, right?

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[00:10:07] I want to hear it and then formulate arguments against it.

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[00:11:14] City Council in Charlotte has approved a resolution.

[00:11:19] It's on our ballot.

[00:11:21] Well, your ballot.

[00:11:22] I live outside the city limit, so I don't get to vote on the city.

[00:11:25] But I still get the Charlotte address for all that's good.

[00:11:28] So they approved putting $400 million in various bond referenda on the November ballots.

[00:11:40] It's going to pay for transportation, housing and neighborhood improvement projects.

[00:11:45] The $400 million will be split between three ballot questions.

[00:11:50] So you've got a $238 million transportation bond.

[00:11:55] And that has $50 million for sidewalks, which is a kind of transportation, if I'm walking and I guess carrying something.

[00:12:04] $55 million for potential new projects.

[00:12:08] $20 million on Vision Zero.

[00:12:11] Well, that doesn't sound like a very good plan.

[00:12:15] A program to reduce traffic fatalities.

[00:12:18] Oh, okay.

[00:12:18] Well, that does make sense then.

[00:12:20] Yeah, because Vision Zero.

[00:12:22] Well, that just means you're blind, right?

[00:12:23] Like that's.

[00:12:25] But okay, Vision Zero.

[00:12:27] Maybe like goal zero or something like that.

[00:12:31] Vision Zero makes it sound like you have zero visibility, you know?

[00:12:35] And then that would actually lead to more pedestrian deaths, I think, or traffic fatalities.

[00:12:39] But anyway, here's an idea.

[00:12:42] It doesn't cost any money at all.

[00:12:43] How about just make the yellows a little bit longer at the stoplights?

[00:12:48] You could do that.

[00:12:50] Anyway, it includes funding for congestion mitigation.

[00:12:55] So lots of Allegra.

[00:12:56] Street resurfacing and roads and intersections.

[00:13:00] Under the proposed bond, according to the Charlotte Observer, housing projects serving people earning low and moderate incomes would receive an additional $100 million.

[00:13:11] Neighborhood improvement projects would get an additional $62 million.

[00:13:15] These projects could include the renovation and installation of more sidewalks, pedestrian and bike paths, as well as traffic controls.

[00:13:25] So all of those bonds are up.

[00:13:27] Now, I will tell you that historically, the bonds pass.

[00:13:30] They usually do.

[00:13:32] Especially in blue locations like the city of Charlotte.

[00:13:37] I think the last bond.

[00:13:41] The last one I recall failing was a school bond.

[00:13:45] That was like a bajillion dollars or something.

[00:13:49] And they eventually brought it back, I think, and they got a smaller one passed.

[00:13:53] And then there was one like, oh gosh, probably, it was before I, I think I was still in college at the time.

[00:14:00] It was like the 90s.

[00:14:01] And there was a school bond that failed in Mecklenburg.

[00:14:04] So that's it.

[00:14:06] But these are city bonds.

[00:14:07] So all you city folks, you get to vote for or against the bonds for all of the various projects and future tax increases.

[00:14:18] Okay.

[00:14:18] So good luck with that.

[00:14:19] So if you would like to win tickets, we're going to play a little game here that I like to call Who Said It?

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[00:15:08] It's a little thing I like to call Who Said It?

[00:15:11] And so I'm going to read a quote and then you're going to tell me, you're going to guess who said it.

[00:15:17] All right?

[00:15:18] Okay.

[00:15:20] I want to make sure we got some people.

[00:15:22] All right.

[00:15:22] We got some people.

[00:15:23] Because I don't know, like people haven't heard.

[00:15:24] You know, actually, hang on.

[00:15:25] I should give everybody an equal chance here rather than just spring it on the first caller and then they may not have a good guess.

[00:15:32] Okay.

[00:15:32] And by the way, if you guess the same answer as somebody else that went before you and it was wrong for them, it will be wrong for you too.

[00:15:45] Okay?

[00:15:45] So just a heads up on that.

[00:15:47] All right.

[00:15:48] So in making a pitch for people to vote for Kamala Harris, this person said that libertarians and Reagan supporters should feel unencumbered, unburdened, let's say,

[00:16:10] because of the endorsements now of Liz and Dick Cheney.

[00:16:16] Quote, I think Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney give permission to those folks who want to find a reason to do the right thing.

[00:16:27] Who said it?

[00:16:29] All right.

[00:16:30] I think we start with John.

[00:16:32] Hello, John.

[00:16:33] Welcome to the show.

[00:16:34] Oh, I'm going to go with Slick Willie Clinton.

[00:16:38] Is it Slick Willie Clinton?

[00:16:44] It was not.

[00:16:45] Thank you, John.

[00:16:46] Better luck next time.

[00:16:49] Next up here is Matt.

[00:16:51] Hello, Matt.

[00:16:52] Who said that Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney are giving permission to people like Reagan supporters and libertarians who want to find a reason to do the right thing?

[00:17:05] Bernie Sanders.

[00:17:07] Is it Bernie Sanders?

[00:17:10] It is not.

[00:17:12] Sorry, Matt.

[00:17:14] Better luck next time.

[00:17:16] And next up here we've got Donna.

[00:17:18] Hello, Donna.

[00:17:20] Is it Barack Obama?

[00:17:23] Show me Barack Obama.

[00:17:26] No.

[00:17:28] I'm sorry.

[00:17:29] It's not Barack Obama.

[00:17:30] These are all very good guesses, though.

[00:17:33] Right?

[00:17:33] Because we all know the Cheneys came out and endorsed Kamala Harris.

[00:17:38] And so.

[00:17:39] This person says that their endorsement should free people up, people like libertarians, Reagan supporters.

[00:17:50] They said, don't tread on me, people and constitutionalists, too, by the way.

[00:17:55] But these people are now freed up.

[00:17:57] They have permission because of this endorsement of the Cheneys.

[00:18:03] That's.

[00:18:05] That's.

[00:18:05] Okay.

[00:18:05] I'm not saying it's a good argument, but that's the argument that this person made.

[00:18:08] Who is that person?

[00:18:10] Who said it?

[00:18:11] All right.

[00:18:11] Let me go over.

[00:18:12] Next up here is David.

[00:18:14] David.

[00:18:14] Who said it?

[00:18:15] Hey.

[00:18:17] I'm going to go with Adam Schiff.

[00:18:19] I'm going to go with Adam Schiff.

[00:18:20] Show me Adam Schiff for brains.

[00:18:29] Not Adam Schiff.

[00:18:30] That's a good guess, too, though.

[00:18:31] These are all very good guesses.

[00:18:33] All right.

[00:18:34] Next up is Janice.

[00:18:35] Hello, Janice.

[00:18:37] Hello.

[00:18:37] Hey.

[00:18:39] What do you.

[00:18:40] Who do you think said it?

[00:18:42] I'm going to go with Nancy Pelosi.

[00:18:45] Show me Nancy Pelosi.

[00:18:47] No, it is not Nancy Pelosi.

[00:18:50] Sorry, Janice.

[00:18:51] That's a good guess, too.

[00:18:52] Oh, very good.

[00:18:54] It's another David.

[00:18:55] Let me see.

[00:18:57] Hello, David.

[00:18:59] Hi.

[00:19:00] Hey.

[00:19:00] Is it Mika Brzezinski?

[00:19:03] Mika Brzezinski?

[00:19:04] Went with the media, but also a Democrat.

[00:19:09] Is it Mika Nadakami Brzezinski?

[00:19:13] No.

[00:19:15] Sorry, it is not Mika Brzezinski.

[00:19:17] Good guess, though.

[00:19:18] Next.

[00:19:19] I didn't think this would be this difficult for people, but I'm enjoying the answers.

[00:19:23] Danny.

[00:19:24] Hello, Danny.

[00:19:25] Hey.

[00:19:26] How you doing?

[00:19:26] Adam Kissinger.

[00:19:28] Is it the crying Adam Kissinger?

[00:19:33] It is not.

[00:19:35] It is not.

[00:19:36] Again, this person said, I think Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney give permission to those folks

[00:19:42] who want to find a reason to do the right thing.

[00:19:45] All right.

[00:19:46] That's that's the quote.

[00:19:48] Who said it?

[00:19:50] Let me see who's up next here is.

[00:19:52] Ron, I'm really I'm really giving Steve a workout here on the call screener board.

[00:19:56] Ron.

[00:19:56] Hello, Ron.

[00:19:57] What do you think?

[00:19:58] Who said it?

[00:19:59] How about Kamala Harris?

[00:20:02] Is it Kamala Harris?

[00:20:04] I feel you were close there.

[00:20:10] I feel you were close, Ron.

[00:20:12] Good luck next time, if you can.

[00:20:14] Next up is Scott.

[00:20:17] Yellow Scott.

[00:20:19] Hey, Pete.

[00:20:20] How are you?

[00:20:21] I'm good.

[00:20:21] I'm good.

[00:20:22] So who do you think said it?

[00:20:24] I think it's Carl Rove.

[00:20:26] Carl Rove.

[00:20:28] Show me Carl Rove.

[00:20:31] Not Carl Rove.

[00:20:34] No whiteboard for the turd blossom.

[00:20:37] No whiteboard for the turd blossom.

[00:20:38] That was W's name for him.

[00:20:42] I did not make that name up.

[00:20:43] All right.

[00:20:44] John.

[00:20:45] Hello, John.

[00:20:46] Who do you think said it?

[00:20:48] Is it Serpent Head Carville?

[00:20:51] Show me Serpent Head.

[00:20:54] No.

[00:20:55] It is not James Carville, John.

[00:20:57] But that's a good guess.

[00:20:58] Not James Carville.

[00:21:01] I don't think I've ever played the wah-wah this many times in a contest ever.

[00:21:06] Who's up next here?

[00:21:07] We got Ben.

[00:21:09] Hello, Ben.

[00:21:11] Hello there.

[00:21:12] Hey.

[00:21:13] So who do you think said it?

[00:21:15] Minnesota Governor and current Vice Presidential Candidate, Tim Walls.

[00:21:19] Show me Tim Walls.

[00:21:28] Indeed, it is Tim Walls.

[00:21:31] Good job, Ben.

[00:21:32] I'm going to put you on hold.

[00:21:33] And Steve is going to get some information from you.

[00:21:36] Congratulations.

[00:21:37] You get the tickets.

[00:21:39] And we'll see you at the Talktoberfest event.

[00:21:42] Here is the actual clip of Tim Walls appearing on the vaunted news program,

[00:21:48] The Daily Show, with Jon Stewart.

[00:21:52] Do we really have to do that?

[00:21:56] Look, it goes broad in that.

[00:21:58] Look, Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift.

[00:22:01] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:22:02] Oh, the shooting.

[00:22:03] No, no, no, no.

[00:22:03] Having the Cheneys on board?

[00:22:05] No.

[00:22:06] You can't Dick Cheney or Taylor Swift.

[00:22:08] No.

[00:22:10] We're a big tent.

[00:22:12] We're a big tent.

[00:22:12] What country did Taylor Swift get us to invade?

[00:22:15] No.

[00:22:16] No, don't you think, though, that, and I do this, I believe this,

[00:22:20] there is still a core group of folks out there.

[00:22:23] You know, your point being, and not joke,

[00:22:24] the don't tread on me, the Reagan piece of this,

[00:22:27] the libertarian piece, but the constitutional piece,

[00:22:30] there are a lot of people out there.

[00:22:32] I think Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney give permission to those folks

[00:22:35] who want to find a reason to do the right thing.

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:39] Libertarians.

[00:22:39] There you go.

[00:22:41] Dick Cheney endorses Harris.

[00:22:44] You are now free to vote for Harris, too,

[00:22:47] because Dick Cheney told you to.

[00:22:48] This guy has got his finger on the pulse

[00:22:51] of the libertarian mindset.

[00:22:53] Does he not?

[00:22:54] Am I right or am I right?

[00:22:55] Right.

[00:22:57] I just, like, that is just astounding to me

[00:23:01] that Tim Walls would believe that the Cheneys,

[00:23:04] that, I mean, Liz Cheney,

[00:23:06] just take her out of the equation altogether.

[00:23:09] Okay?

[00:23:09] Just that libertarians,

[00:23:11] the party that is so animated

[00:23:14] against foreign intervention and endless wars,

[00:23:18] right, that this party, these libertarians,

[00:23:21] would somehow now have permission

[00:23:24] to vote for Kamala Harris

[00:23:26] because Dick Cheney said,

[00:23:28] I'm for her.

[00:23:30] She's all right.

[00:23:31] Really?

[00:23:32] How?

[00:23:33] How does one even begin to conjure up that idea?

[00:23:39] Except just pure ignorance.

[00:23:41] I don't, it's just, it's craziness.

[00:23:42] Anyway, we'll go to the phones here

[00:23:45] and talk to Mary.

[00:23:46] Hello, Mary.

[00:23:47] Hey, I loved your game.

[00:23:49] It really surprised me that it was Tim Walls,

[00:23:51] but knucklehead that he is,

[00:23:53] it shouldn't surprise me.

[00:23:55] Yeah.

[00:23:55] And I just wanted to say,

[00:23:57] I really like all the good information

[00:23:59] you're putting out about the election

[00:24:01] and about the legislative process,

[00:24:03] and I'm just wondering,

[00:24:03] how many high schools are having

[00:24:05] these kinds of discussions?

[00:24:07] Well, I mean, I would imagine,

[00:24:08] I would imagine a lot of classes are, right?

[00:24:12] They do teach this stuff.

[00:24:14] I don't know if they, you know,

[00:24:14] it's going to be up to the teacher

[00:24:16] to use this as an example

[00:24:18] in their lessons, right?

[00:24:21] Like they, to me, like if I were a teacher

[00:24:24] and I'm teaching American history

[00:24:26] or civics or something,

[00:24:28] I would be looking at this

[00:24:29] as a good use of a current event

[00:24:32] in order to get kids engaged

[00:24:35] in the learning process

[00:24:37] about what it takes to become a law

[00:24:39] and the difference between,

[00:24:40] you know, the legislative body

[00:24:41] approving a law

[00:24:42] versus a constitutional amendment.

[00:24:46] Well, I think that's optimistic

[00:24:48] of you to think that way.

[00:24:49] I feel like these days

[00:24:50] that young people don't know

[00:24:52] much of anything,

[00:24:53] and I don't think they take

[00:24:54] these opportunities.

[00:24:55] I mean, I like...

[00:24:56] Well, hang on.

[00:24:57] You asked about the,

[00:24:58] you asked about whether

[00:24:59] that's being taught.

[00:25:00] So I don't know what the kids,

[00:25:02] like I don't put that on the kids

[00:25:03] to go find that.

[00:25:05] No, no.

[00:25:05] I just think it,

[00:25:06] I think civics isn't even a class anymore.

[00:25:09] That used to be a...

[00:25:10] It is.

[00:25:11] Yeah, I mean, it is.

[00:25:14] There was, I mean,

[00:25:15] there is American history

[00:25:16] and this sort of stuff.

[00:25:17] I mean, this stuff does get taught.

[00:25:19] Now, I would say

[00:25:19] it's not taught enough.

[00:25:21] Yeah, I don't think

[00:25:22] it's taught enough.

[00:25:23] But can I just mention

[00:25:25] one more thing about Tim Walz

[00:25:26] that I haven't heard anybody say?

[00:25:27] But when he was given

[00:25:29] that question in the debate

[00:25:30] about the Tiananmen Square

[00:25:31] and how he lied

[00:25:32] that he was there,

[00:25:34] the beginning of his answer

[00:25:37] was,

[00:25:38] well, you know,

[00:25:39] I grew up in the kind of neighborhood

[00:25:40] where you're out playing

[00:25:42] and riding your bike

[00:25:42] until it got dark

[00:25:43] and you came home for dinner

[00:25:44] and I'm proud of that service.

[00:25:45] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:46] He said,

[00:25:47] I'm proud of that service.

[00:25:49] Right.

[00:25:49] Well, he then said,

[00:25:51] I'm a knucklehead.

[00:25:51] So that explains why he said it.

[00:25:54] I mean, I thought,

[00:25:55] okay,

[00:25:56] but I thought the knucklehead

[00:25:57] was only referring to the fact

[00:25:58] that he just outright lied

[00:26:00] about the whole,

[00:26:01] that he was even there.

[00:26:02] See, I took it as just

[00:26:04] a general blanket statement

[00:26:06] for his entire existence.

[00:26:09] Well, that's good.

[00:26:10] Yeah.

[00:26:10] That's a good way to look at it.

[00:26:12] Right.

[00:26:12] Yeah.

[00:26:12] So I know it's not an excuse

[00:26:14] by any stretch.

[00:26:15] No, Mary,

[00:26:16] I appreciate the call.

[00:26:17] And that's,

[00:26:17] I mean,

[00:26:18] yeah,

[00:26:18] we had some fun with that

[00:26:20] after the debate,

[00:26:21] the day after the debate,

[00:26:22] because, yeah,

[00:26:22] like that was his attempt

[00:26:24] that I'm from a,

[00:26:25] you know,

[00:26:25] I'm from a working class family.

[00:26:27] That was his,

[00:26:30] that was his attempt there.

[00:26:32] Oh,

[00:26:34] Donald Trump is set to appear

[00:26:36] on Joe Rogan's podcast.

[00:26:40] The interview will be recorded

[00:26:42] at Rogan's Austin, Texas studio

[00:26:46] on Friday.

[00:26:49] So in case you are unaware,

[00:26:51] Joe Rogan,

[00:26:52] Joe Rogan,

[00:26:53] Fear Factor host,

[00:26:54] MMA guy,

[00:26:55] comedian,

[00:26:56] standup comic,

[00:26:58] and a TV actor guy.

[00:27:00] He has like the most popular podcast

[00:27:02] like ever.

[00:27:03] And it's like,

[00:27:04] they do like a,

[00:27:04] it's just a straight up

[00:27:06] three hour long chat interview.

[00:27:09] That's what his podcasts are.

[00:27:12] And this guy McGills on Twitter says,

[00:27:15] imagine going into a coma in 1999

[00:27:17] and waking up today to find out

[00:27:20] that the maintenance guy

[00:27:21] from the show news radio

[00:27:22] is one of the most influential voices

[00:27:24] in the presidential election

[00:27:25] between the people you knew

[00:27:27] as the New York City real estate guy

[00:27:29] and steak salesman

[00:27:30] versus a Montel Williams girlfriend.

[00:27:34] That's,

[00:27:34] that's where we are people.

[00:27:36] Welcome to 2024.

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