NC overrides a whole mess of the Governor's vetoes (07-29-2025--Hour2)

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I think he's whatever he has to be in the moment. And the problem is Republicans haven't been limber enough to to Perry him in a lot of these actions, and the one that really stuck in my crawl was Dan Forrest in twenty twenty when the riots were going on and we had the lockdowns at the same time, and Roy Cooper came out, I think what he measured to be in his best interest. He said, well, people are mad about the property damage is being done to these riots, but that's not as important as to why they're protesting a favor of right. I thought, this is a moment when you come out with an ad showing all the African American business owners crying because their property has been destroyed, and then show Roy Cooper saying it's Jeff property. But instead, that moment passed and we allowed I think we allowed Roy Cooper to kind of come out as the guy with a plan where he said, we've got a lot of down. I don't really know what Dan Forest plant was, so I feel like he's whatever he has to be and we just haven't pay. Yeah. I'd say yeah, I'd say that's uh, that's fair. I think that's accurate. The the the attacks that were leveled against Roy never seemed to stick, and they were never in my opinion, they were never the harshest lines that could be taken. You know, there's a reason why attack ads are done. It's because they work, and so you're I will say, like we played two ads or in the last hour that have already dropped against Cooper. And if this is like day one and they've got these things already loaded and ready to go, I gotta believe that there's going to be a lot more mining of his record because he and that's going to be his biggest problem is he has a record, and he has a record of vetoing things that are I would say, you know, majority opinion, especially on like the trans stuff, but also you know that all of the budgets, all of the pay raises and everything like, there's a lot of stuff there that can be used against him if you've got I think, if you get a skillful enough uh you know, ad maker for the Republicans. If if he indulged me for a second, I'd say Michael Lottley came to chair during the Wholemark Arriss thing where we saw the Republican Party, I felt not just drop the ball, but never even trying to pick up the ball, and Wattley changed that. I know there's conservative detractors who wish they would Watley take when he was chaired certain actions, but he fought in a way that we didn't see leaders of the Republican parties fight beforehand. So he's got. Yeah, he does, yes, Sir Travis, I appreciate the call Watley. I agree he Wally when I saw him speak at that Ted Cruz event. He has like he has some sharp elbows and he can throw them. So I think people think of him as I don't know, not quite as vanilla as Roy, but I think he's going to be able to make some of these arguments. And I said this the other day when Laura Trump announced she was not going to run, and everybody then said it's probably going to be Wattley. That he was. He was the chair during Cooper's term, so he has first hand experience with the issues that Cooper is going to cite for why he should be picked right, why people should vote for him, and so Wattley knows firsthand those issues. It's not like he was up in you know, Washington as a congress member or something and was removed from these issues. He was. He was the North Carolina GOP chairman. He was on the ground. He knew about these issues. He knew about these fights, so I think he I think it puts him in a better position than somebody who wasn't really on the ground fighting these things as they were occurring. Let me go to the uh the the text line here and get a couple of comments in before I move on to the veto overriding. Marty says, great shoe, Thank you, Marty, I appreciate it. Rob in York says Ray Ray sounds like a TMU televangelist. Jim says, if Ray Cooper tries campaigning in the Hurricane Helene impacted areas of the state, he may turn into dB Cooper and the money he took. All right, so the let me go over here to the Carolina Journal. Uh. This has been going on since nine am today. The House came into sessions, started doing their veto rama. They started overriding all of these vetos. Now in the Senate, they came into session a little bit later, they started moving a bunch of vetos as well, or overrides as well. The Senate has a super majority Republican control, so it's easy for them to override the vetos much easier than in the House, where the Republicans have to peel away a Democrat on like every issue, every bill. Okay, so every one of the overrides, they have to get one democrat, and they have been able to do that. I saw. I think it was Neil Inman strategist guy political who said the word of the day or the phrase of the day is what was it governing super majority something like that. I mean, yeah, like, if you're able to if you're able to find one Democrat on every one of these bills, that's all you need and then you can override. And they did so. This is from the Carolina Journal. Senate bills that were overridden by the Senate. The Freedom to Carry that allows permitless concealed carry of handguns for adults aged eighteen and over. The North Carolina Border Protection Act mandates cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and empowers residents to sue local governments that adopt sanctuary policies. Senate Bill two twenty seven would prohibit DEI offices and diversity trainings in public schools by targeting divisive concepts like race based success. Senate Bill five pin fifty eight prohibits DEI offices and statements on UNC system, CAMPI and community colleges. Opponents say it chills free speech. Supporters sayed combat's divisive campus practices. So those were all the bills that got overridden in the Senate. Both chambers have overridden the expansion of charter school authority by impuring the charter school's review board. The Power Bill Reduction Act, it repeals North Carolina's interim twenty thirty carbon reduction mandate, projected to save consumers fifteen billion dollars by eliminating costly compliance measures. The Senate voted to override thirty yes. So that passed both thirty to eighteen and seventy four to forty six. So that's now law. So in other words, we were supposed to hit these targets in twenty thirty, and they've scrapped that. There's still a target for twenty fifty. I believe that remains also overridden by both chambers. Senate Bill four sixteen bars state agencies from collecting or disclosing nonprofit donor data and imposes penalties on officials who disclose that information. Right, this was the Left is like there's dark money shielding dark Maney you're like, well, no, this is for like any nonprofit. So like the Left has weaponized donations to nonprofits to try to cancel people. They did it on like gay marriage referenda they did in California. That's how the founder of Firefox, the developer, the creator of the Firefox browser, got ousted from his own company because he donated five hundred dollars to a you know, the traditional marriage referendum that California held like fifteen years ago. 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So this is one of those deals, I think where if they can't peel away a single Democrat on the remaining override votes, what they'll do is they'll keep coming back into session and one day some Democrat will be, you know, late, or they'll be on vacation, or they'll be doing something else and they won't be there, and then they'll call the bill up for a revote, and then they'll have the necessary votes to override. Says that Michael Wattley will be staying at the RNC until the August meeting. All right, thank you, John, I appreciate that. I wasn't sure if he had already stepped down or not. All right, So I'm going to go into depth more on this House Built one ninety three. It was a firearms bill related to private schools. There's House Built eight oh five defines sex in state law based on biological attributes. This is now law. This got overridden and it bars K twelve schools from placing male and female students in the same sleeping quarters. It prohibits state funds for gender transition procedures and correctional facilities. And it increases the statute of limitations on lawsuits for transition surgeries now to ten years. So if you, you know, you go through the transition surgery procedures and stuff, you would have a decade after that last surgery to sue. I think that's the idea. What else here? This was wrote both chambers overrode House Bill five forty nine's veto. This gives the auditor broader access to state agency databases, digital records, facilities, and property. This is the Rains Act limiting rules with substantial financial costs. This would require greater legislative scrutiny for rules. And these are rules, not laws. So if like a executive branch agency tries to do some rules that I think it was at twenty million dollars. If that's the cost, it needs legislative approval. Three House Democrats voted in favor of that bill. The Criminal Illegal Alien Enforcement Act, this is House Bill three eighteen. I'm going to give more got sound on this one as well. This tightens the timeline on the law mandating that law enforcement alert ice before an illegal alien criminal suspect is scheduled to be released. One of two bills that the House Republican Caucus is focused on to target politically vulnerable Democrats ahead of the twenty twenty six midterms. I would also add it's also to rein in Meclamburg County Sheriff Gary not my fault McFadden, and other sheriffs around the state. There is like four or five others that refuse to cooperate fully with ICE. So this is another attempt at closing these loopholes. Let's see here, okay, And then these two have not yet been done. Expedited removal of unauthorized persons, and then there's a DEI thing, so those things do not appear to have been voted on yet, so I think there may be two remaining. There's like a dozen bills that got overridden today, which is that's history making. There's never been that many vetos in a single day. All right, So let me go back and play you some audio. This is Marsha Morey, former Judge Durham Democrat, opposing House Built one ninety three. This is an act to allow certain employees and volunteers at non public schools to carry certain weapons on educational property when authorized by the school Board of Trustees or school administrative director. Okay, so they can carry concealed So they can basically act as a volunteer security guard and conceal carry at a private school, some of which are very small, only you know, a couple dozen students. They can't afford to hire a security guard, a school resource officer. So if you have somebody in the community that would volunteer to do this, then the school would be able to allow that person to carry on school property. Marshall Moury says, that's bad. Ladies and gentlemen. Here we have once again a bill that encourages firearms in private schools. Children at risk of a receipt getting a firearm from a teacher. Volunteers can have firearms on these private schools. It is shown that states that have stronger firearm laws are two and a half times more likely to have less violent crime with firearms. This is common sense. We are turning into a state of guns anywhere, anytime, by anyone. It defies common sense, it defies logic. I urge you keep your citizens safe, keep your children in private schools safe. Vote to sustain the governor's veto. Keep the kids in these schools safe by leaving them unprotected. It's a brilliant argument from a former judge. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion. 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So the House debated this House built one ninety three overriding the governor's veto. And this particular bill allows private schools to have somebody on their campus concealed carey. Usually this would be a volunteer because the private schools can't afford an SRO school resource officer. So that was the purpose of the legislation. And Representative Laura Bud she is from Mecklenburg County. She is a Democrat, which will become very very obvious when you hear what she has to say in opposition to the overriding of the veto. It's yet another gunbell that removes boundaries, it removes protections, it removes common sense. It inserts more firearms into the community without any regulation, without any oversight, without any training, or any thought to the consequences that may arise if an accident should occur if someone is misidentified, or someone doesn't know how to point and shoot with good aim, or even if they do, what if they hit someone that's not the intended that. Okay, there are laws already for that. This is what's amazing is that people who get up there and speak about these issues and have no idea about what the current law is concerning firearm use. Right, some if you have some you know, volunteer security guard that just like start shooting kids because somebody called nine to one one for a beasting. Like that guy's going to prison. He's going to prison for the rest of his life. Like, that's not the way we want to prevent it from happening by leaving the place completely unprotected. Right They again, like they never offer solutions. It's just guns are bad. Okay, that's it. That's all. That's all their argument is. She continues, this. Bill does not provide anything other than tragedy. Because in the event that there is someone in a school that volunteer dad who says, I'll sit at the front desk, I'll keep our kids safe. I don't doubt where his heart is on this, But what I do doubt is that he has the requisite amount of training, education, and experience that law enforcement has, whether they're active duty or retired. I do doubt that, and I don't want any of the children in this state to inadvertently become a victim. Then here's an idea for you. Do not send your child to a private school that has a volunteer security guard. Okay, that's how you avoid that. It's very simple in my mind. She then started making up all of these various scenarios of how a volunteer dad would just go around murdering people accidentally, including the beasting and needed an EPI pen. Like again, like this nanny state mentality is just perfectly conveyed by a representative Laura bud And so she runs through these scenarios and then concludes with this. And that's a tragedy that we can avoid if we simply act with common sense and stop thinking that somehow owning a gun and possessing a gun is a god given right from the US Constitution or the North Carolina Constitution. It's not. It is not a god given right. Okay, hang on a second, slight correction to offer there. It is. This is rooted in natural law. You have the right to defend yourself and your family and your property. It occurs in nature right animals defend themselves and the rights that we enjoy as Americans. In our founding documents, the US Constitution lays it out right, we are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights, and then they list them for us specifically these, and the first one is the ability to worship and to speak freely, and to publish newspapers and the like. And then the second one is there to protect all the others, which is the right to bear arms, which the Supreme Court has ruled that it is in the constitution right. That is what it means, you have the right to bear arms. So I don't know what the hell she's talking about. I don't understand why she believes that this is not a god given right as codified in the US Constitution, in the North Carolina Constitution, when it clearly is. Now you heard there at the end where the Speaker of the House, Destin Hall, had to bang the gavel because there was some noise being made by some of the Peanut gallery. Well, people in the gallery. Spend momentary members of the gallery. There's no Paul, there's no comments to be made from members of the gallery. If there's another comments that they're just going to clear the gallery. Again. Many have are frequent flyers and know this, but I'm assuming the person had just shouted maybe it's your first time here and you don't understand the purpose of this room is for the members, like by the people of the state could debate the bill. There's members on both sides of the issue, and when you try to shout them down, you're saying your voice is more important than the voice of the eleven million people of this state. And so if you have something to say, go outside and say it. Or the chair just going to clear the gallery, please remain signed represented Bud. The lady continues out the floor. All right, so this is not the first time or sorry, this was the first time that there was a disruption. It was in support of Bud because these were lefties that were there, and so they were applauding her. So he warns them it would not be the last time there was a disruption. Carla Cunningham was disrupted. We'll get to that too. I've got that audio that one is cunning him was in fuego. As the kids say, well not anymore, but they used to say it. Jeff McNeely, the Republican from Iredale County, this was his bill and he spoke in favor of it. You know, stories are power power. 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They are your life told through the eyes of everyone around you and all who came before you, and they will tell others to come who you are, visit create video dot com. Yes, it is god given constitutional right to keep in bare arms. Despite what Representative Laura Budd from Mecklenburg seems to think, and said so on the floor of the House today, she failed in her argument. It was still overridden. Here's Jeff McNeely, Republican from Iredell, who explained why he put forth this bill and why it was worthy of the override vote that it did get. Gonna what's going to happen at these schools that do not have an SRO cannot afford an SRO. An SRO the first year will be about one hundred thousand dollars outlay because they'll have to have a vehicle, they'll have to have all the equipment, they'll have to have everything that takes to stall an officer. And then from there it'll probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of sixty to seventy thousand dollars a year that they'll have to come up with and for a school of fifteen kids at an am church. I just don't see that happen happening, but I do see them at risk. I do see a crazy person showing up. I do see somebody coming to do harm. If you don't believe evil's not out there, just watch the news. It's out there every day. And we saw a knife stabbing in Minnesota. It was not a gun involved, but there was a crazy, evil person involved. And I feel like these children are no different than any other children out there. I think they're saying, was it red, yellow, black and white? They are all precious in his sight? Well, these children are precious. And I don't think we can take the time to wait fifteen to twenty minutes for somebody to get there that's going to bring a gun when we could have somebody there that already has a gun, because that's what you're asking. You're asking for somebody to show up to help protect them when you could have somebody there that will protect them. And I'm not gonna lie. This gets kind of personal to me. My wife is off this administrator at a private school of about ninety to one hundred kids on average each year, and they have a fairly high tuition because they have to to do the quality they do with minor students. There's no way that they can afford an SRO. It would cost so much more. They would not have a school, people would go elsewhere, and that's I guess what we're trying to do here. We're trying to force them away from a choice to where they have to go if they want protection. But I don't believe that's necessary. I believe there's people out there that are qualified, that are smart enough, that have the ability to protect these children in some way, somehow until law enforcement does arrive on the scene, just like first responders show up whenever somebody's hurt in a car wreck. No, they're not an EMT necessarily, but they do know how to administer first aid. They are on the scene as fast as they can get there until the people that can do the medical procedure show up. Same principle. Yeah, I don't think Hi meant first responders. I think him in good Samaritans, people that are there, you know, when a car accident happens and you jump out, you try to help, same idea. He mentioned this stabbing. He said it was in Minnesota, but it wasn't. It was in Michigan. This was eleven people injured Saturday when a forty two year old maniac stormed into a Michigan Walmart and began stabbing shoppers. The victims, age twenty nine to eighty four, all taken to the hospital after the violence in Traverse City. None of them, thankfully, none of them were killed. The suspect, who I do not name, was subdued by shoppers and taken into custody when a deputy arrived. He faces charges of assault with intent to murder as well as terrorism. Now this is from NBC News, and as I read this piece, I already knew what had happened because I saw a video of the subduing. Okay, video went viral. This article never explains how the Good Samaritans about six or seven dudes, how they subdued The attacker who chocker of Shockers, has a very lengthy criminal history, is a homeless guy, has been involuntarily committed for mental health issues. He's got a record of assaults, controlled substance violations, public intoxication misdemeanor, assault and battery, misdemeanor, aggravated assault, drug possession, assault with the dangerous weapon, malicious destruction of tombs and memorials. Apparently he was like digging up he was going to the cemetery to dig up graves. He's crazy. By the way, The judge gave him one hundred thousand dollars bond. Yeah, the hearing, he had to be interrupted by his own defense attorney and the judge multiple times when he started talking about alleged conspiracy theories like cigarettes containing fiberglass and chemicals just to kill off this population, stuff like that. He entered pleas of not guilty on every count and he was put on placed on one hundred thousand dollars bond. What I know about the subduing NBC never mentions the man's name, Derek Perry, Marine Corvette who had a gun, pulled out the gun and held the man until police arrived. Well, he pulls the gun out, he's yelling at him, drop the knife, drop the knife. Other guys starts surrounding him, a couple of them with like shopping carts to block his way, and then another Marine Corps veteran, Matthew Kolakowski and his brother in law, Chris O'Brien Koleakowski tackles the guy. Was it was a good guy with a gun that subdued the attacker, and that is not mentioned in the NBC story. There's no mention of Derek Perry, who had the gun legal carrier. There's no mention of a firearm being used in the subduing process, and this is standard. By the way, this is standard. They ignore these types of incidents. Media ignores these types of incidents, or they leave out details like this NBC news story. They leave out the critical detail that it was somebody with a firearm that stopped the carnage, that caught the guy that subdued him. Were it not for Derek Perry and the firearm, don't know if the guy would have gone away, don't know if he would have continued stabbing more people. But they omit it. So yeah, I'm okay with some volunteers carrying. If the private school says, hey, we would like private we would like some volunteer security. If they want to do it, it's their choice, all right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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