NC Lt. Gov. files defamation suit against CNN (10-15-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:28] So I'm old enough to remember when the allegations first came out against Mark Robinson and his, the porn addiction or predilections or fetishes or whatever. And when I, at the time I covered it, I said, I don't know what, I don't know if it's true. I have no idea if this stuff is true.

[00:00:54] And, and I said at the time, the biggest problem for the CNN story, or with the CNN story, is that it is CNN doing the story. I don't trust CNN. For many reasons, Steele dossier being a pretty big one. So I didn't know I, and I still don't know if the allegations are true.

[00:01:16] But one of the things that I heard at the time, maybe you heard this too, was that if Mark Robinson is innocent of these allegations, as he claimed immediately, then he should file a lawsuit, right? He should sue because that's defamation. Well, he has sued.

[00:01:41] And now the same people who were saying that he has to sue in order to show us that he is actually innocent. And if he was really innocent, he would sue, he would try to get a defamation case against CNN. And if, if, you know, that's what he did, then I thought, okay, well, then maybe they would take that as some sort of an indication that he is seriously going to go after CNN because he is innocent.

[00:02:09] Not true. They don't care. That was just something they said at the time. Because now that he has filed the lawsuit, now they say, well, he doesn't provide any evidence that he didn't do it.

[00:02:24] Do you hear yourself? To quote J.D. Vance, do you hear yourself?

[00:02:29] These are reporters. These are, quote, journalists. These are people that are supposed to be the gatekeepers of the truth, telling us that he has to lay out his case that he is innocent.

[00:02:43] He says, this isn't me. He says, I didn't do this. Here's the thing. He can't prove it because all of the information has been hidden by CNN, by the website.

[00:02:56] They took down all of the posts. They blocked it all so nobody can see it. Don't even know if it's still around, if it still exists.

[00:03:03] But now that they filed a lawsuit, you know what? Now they get discovery.

[00:03:08] Now the law, the lawyers hired by Robinson can now get at CNN.

[00:03:15] They can get at what's this guy's name? Money.

[00:03:21] Lewis, love money, which I think is sort of the root of evil.

[00:03:26] But he actually changed his name to be that, by the way.

[00:03:34] So now they get to get at these people in a way that they would not have otherwise been able to.

[00:03:39] And they haven't been able to because they could just say, I don't want to talk to your lawyers.

[00:03:43] I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't have to say anything.

[00:03:45] Where's your subpoena?

[00:03:46] OK, well, now they can go get subpoenas.

[00:03:48] They can get discovery. That's the process.

[00:03:52] And so now I'm seeing people saying that Mark Robinson needs to produce his bank records.

[00:03:58] He needs to show us his bank records to prove that he didn't go into that porn shop next door to the Papa John's where he was a manager.

[00:04:08] What do you think the bank records are going to show?

[00:04:14] Do you think he was going in there using his credit card?

[00:04:19] To rent the the videos and the.

[00:04:25] The time in the back room where the nastiness occurs.

[00:04:28] Don't go in there with a black light.

[00:04:30] My goodness.

[00:04:32] Or do you think he may have been paying in cash?

[00:04:37] Like, what do you expect?

[00:04:39] So you want to see his bank records to see what.

[00:04:42] He's part what he purchased back in.

[00:04:45] Was it twenty.

[00:04:47] Ten or something.

[00:04:49] Two thousand nine, two thousand eight, twenty ten time frame.

[00:04:54] He needs to show you his bank records records to show you what he was spending his money on.

[00:04:59] Do you think, by the way, that his wife might have noticed thousands and thousands of dollars being spent at a porn shop?

[00:05:06] Do you think she might have noticed that if he had used a credit card?

[00:05:10] I think she probably would have noticed that.

[00:05:12] But she's standing by her husband.

[00:05:14] She says he didn't do it either.

[00:05:17] By the way, if they do release his bank statements in order to prove the negative, will that be good enough for you?

[00:05:25] Of course not.

[00:05:26] No, because then you're going to say, well, he probably used cash.

[00:05:31] It's almost like he can't win with you.

[00:05:35] The level of skepticism.

[00:05:38] And I don't begrudge people for being skeptical.

[00:05:40] But the level of skepticism that you are employing against one party in the matter is not consistent with the level of skepticism that you're not employing with the other members of the story.

[00:05:58] Particularly the porn shop guy.

[00:06:00] Lewis loved money.

[00:06:02] I said this at the time because, I don't know, I'm kind of old-fashioned.

[00:06:07] I kind of adhere to the rules that I was taught when I went to mass communication broadcast journalism school.

[00:06:16] The stuff that I was taught to be a reporter was one of the questions you ask yourself is about the harm done and what if the story is not true?

[00:06:26] And it doesn't seem like anybody ever bothered to ask that question.

[00:06:29] What if this isn't true?

[00:06:31] And there are a couple different stories, right?

[00:06:33] The first is the porn shop story that the assembly did.

[00:06:38] And I was suspicious of that story right out of the gate because of the people who wrote the story.

[00:06:45] I don't trust them.

[00:06:47] I don't.

[00:06:48] I don't trust them.

[00:06:50] They're on the left.

[00:06:52] I don't trust people on the left in general.

[00:06:56] Particularly when they are writing as journalists.

[00:07:00] Because there seems to be a common theme through a lot of their reporting work.

[00:07:07] So I was skeptical of that story and I was skeptical of Lewis loved money.

[00:07:13] And I could tell right away that he had an incentive.

[00:07:17] See, that's one of the questions you should always be examining is what is the incentive structure?

[00:07:25] In any story.

[00:07:26] And you have to include in that the media and the reporters doing that story.

[00:07:31] Because people behave in accordance with their incentives.

[00:07:39] And in their own interest.

[00:07:43] So I thought this guy with his little, you know, podunk, non-famous garage band.

[00:07:54] Trying to get web clicks and YouTube hits.

[00:07:57] And trying to make money on monetization on the social media platforms.

[00:08:01] I could identify a pretty good incentive to make up a story.

[00:08:06] Especially if you don't have any ethics.

[00:08:07] And especially if you knew the guy.

[00:08:10] Right?

[00:08:10] If you knew this politician.

[00:08:12] You could definitely make some money there.

[00:08:15] So I've read through the 15 page complaint.

[00:08:19] That's been filed at the Wake County Superior Court.

[00:08:23] And there is a demand for a jury trial.

[00:08:27] Now maybe this is all part of the political campaign.

[00:08:31] That's possible too.

[00:08:33] Right?

[00:08:33] It is very possible that this lawsuit is filed.

[00:08:36] And they have no intention of seeing it through.

[00:08:38] They just had to do it before the election.

[00:08:41] That's possible as well.

[00:08:42] See again, I don't know what the truth is in this matter.

[00:08:47] But I'm trying to treat all of the participants with an equal amount of skepticism.

[00:08:54] And if I can think of some questions that might undermine the veracity of the CNN story.

[00:09:00] Which was about this information.

[00:09:03] These posts on some obscure porn sites.

[00:09:09] Where apparently we are to believe that Mark Robinson used his own name.

[00:09:14] His own photo.

[00:09:16] And an account.

[00:09:17] A pseudonym account called Mini Soldier.

[00:09:19] Which by the way.

[00:09:20] In the court complaint.

[00:09:22] They say.

[00:09:23] He never had that.

[00:09:25] That he didn't use that.

[00:09:28] So I don't know what's going on there.

[00:09:30] He could be lying.

[00:09:31] That's absolutely.

[00:09:32] That is absolutely a possibility.

[00:09:34] He could be lying about all of it.

[00:09:35] And the lawsuit is intended not to proceed after the election.

[00:09:41] They'll drop it if he loses or if he wins.

[00:09:43] They're going to drop it and it's just done in order to score some political points.

[00:09:49] And to address the matter.

[00:09:50] And try to change the narrative.

[00:09:52] That's possible.

[00:09:53] But why isn't CNN providing any of the information necessary to corroborate their story?

[00:10:02] The kind of information that would allow forensic deep dives into the data.

[00:10:09] To determine was this a legit post or is somebody masquerading?

[00:10:17] I don't know the answer to that.

[00:10:19] CNN won't tell us.

[00:10:20] That's kind of suspicious.

[00:10:21] Or sus as the kids say.

[00:10:25] And watch the press conference as well.

[00:10:29] You know who hasn't done a press conference?

[00:10:31] It's CNN.

[00:10:33] Lewis Money.

[00:10:34] He hasn't done a press conference.

[00:10:35] He hasn't opened himself up to the kind of questioning from an adversarial press.

[00:10:41] I suspect if he did a press conference.

[00:10:43] He might not be subjected to the kinds of questions that Mark Robinson got.

[00:10:49] Well that's because he's not trying to be an elected leader.

[00:10:52] Or he's not already an elected leader.

[00:10:55] Okay but he's trying to take one down.

[00:10:59] Right?

[00:11:00] Oh no he's not.

[00:11:01] He's just trying to make money.

[00:11:02] Oh he's not just trying to make money.

[00:11:04] Okay so then what is his incentive?

[00:11:06] Why come forward with all of this stuff now?

[00:11:08] What would be his incentive for doing so?

[00:11:10] Have you guys ever considered that question?

[00:11:12] Why would you do this now?

[00:11:16] Oh no we don't have an answer for that.

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[00:12:20] Let us, ham and tomato, read from the complaint submitted by Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson and his lawyer, Jesse Benal.

[00:12:31] CNN and Lewis Love Money, so CNN and LLM, are responsible for a new low in digital lynching.

[00:12:41] In a malicious hit job so well timed as to be uncanny, they italicized uncanny,

[00:12:47] they have published disgusting lies about Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson and what appears to be a coordinated attack aimed at derailing his campaign for governor

[00:12:55] and has already inflicted immeasurable harm to his family, his reputation, and his good name.

[00:13:01] This lawsuit, while utterly insufficient to right this wrong, shall serve as a small measure of accountability.

[00:13:08] And then it lists the parties.

[00:13:10] He's, you know, Robinson, CNN, Lewis Love Money is an individual, 52 years old, sings in a local punk rock band called Trailer Park Orca.

[00:13:21] I shouldn't even say the name.

[00:13:23] His real name was Lewis Allen Wooten, but he changed it to Lewis Love Money.

[00:13:32] The court has jurisdiction, personal jurisdiction, blah, blah, blah.

[00:13:36] Venue is Wake County.

[00:13:39] On August 11th, defendant Money released a music video on YouTube, his band's first in three years.

[00:13:48] The title of that song was The Lieutenant Governor Owez Me Money, and it talks about how they made representations that this was Mark Robinson.

[00:13:57] Within weeks of this then obscure, barely viewed music video being published, Money was then interviewed by a major online public...

[00:14:09] Okay, well, that's not true.

[00:14:11] The assembly...

[00:14:11] Major...

[00:14:12] A major online...

[00:14:14] Okay, come on.

[00:14:17] This resulted in an article published on September 30th titled,

[00:14:20] Ex-Porn Shop Employees Say Mark Robinson Was a Regular.

[00:14:24] He Denies It.

[00:14:26] In this article at the Assembly, defendant Money falsely alleges that in the 90s and early 2000s,

[00:14:33] when Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson was already a married father of two children,

[00:14:37] Robinson was a, quote, frequent customer at the porn shop, right?

[00:14:41] Several years, he hung out five nights a week, spending a good amount of money paying $8 per video to preview two or more porn videos a night

[00:14:52] in a private booth and purchasing hundreds of bootleg porn videos for between $20 and $25 a piece.

[00:15:00] These were, quote, super hardcore and compiled from videos too risque or extreme to sell in North Carolina.

[00:15:08] So goes the allegations, at least.

[00:15:11] The false allegations from the music video and assembly article are here and after referred to collectively as

[00:15:19] defendant money defamatory statements.

[00:15:22] 16 days after that article, CNN publishes an article salaciously titled,

[00:15:28] I'm a Black Nazi.

[00:15:29] NCGOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum.

[00:15:34] These falsely attributed statements include several lewd, sex-obsessed, racist and outrageous statements.

[00:15:40] I said at the time, reading through the stuff, it reads like a parody written by a leftist of what they think a right winger would secretly be thinking.

[00:15:53] That's the way it reads.

[00:15:58] They call them false statements.

[00:16:00] And they're all, all of the reporting and everything is covered under the CNN defamatory statements.

[00:16:07] All right.

[00:16:07] So there's the foundation.

[00:16:11] All right.

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[00:17:24] Got a message from Gary.

[00:17:26] It's a Pete tweet.

[00:17:27] He says, if Lewis Love Money had all of this information, why didn't he release it all at once?

[00:17:33] How does he have this information decades later?

[00:17:36] It doesn't add up at all.

[00:17:38] It's like he has a personal grudge against Robinson and will do anything to take him down and he doesn't seem to care what it is.

[00:17:44] Well, I don't know if he's got a personal grudge against Robinson or not.

[00:17:49] But I do think he's seeing his opportunity and he's taking it.

[00:17:53] His opportunity to get attention to his stupid band.

[00:17:59] Try to get discovered, try to get YouTube clicks and views and such.

[00:18:06] Here's another from another tweet.

[00:18:08] If this was legally feasible when running for political office, imagine the judgments Trump would win.

[00:18:14] It's so ridiculous.

[00:18:15] You know public figures almost never can bring, let alone win these cases, which is why they run these smear campaigns with impunity.

[00:18:25] That is true.

[00:18:25] It's very difficult for public figures to overcome the limitations against them when it comes to defamation, libel, slander.

[00:18:37] However, you can.

[00:18:39] You can overcome them and you have to be the challenge is that you've got to prove negligence, malice, that they knew this stuff was was incorrect when they ran it or they didn't do, you know, the basic level of verification required in order to minimize harm, that kind of stuff.

[00:19:03] So there there are challenges that have to be overcome, no doubt.

[00:19:06] And we'll find out.

[00:19:08] And we're going to find out whether or not Robinson's lying because he has filed lawsuit.

[00:19:13] They're going to start, according to the lawyer, they're going to they're going to get discovery.

[00:19:17] They're going to start subpoenaing records and data that CNN refuses to turn over.

[00:19:23] So we'll see.

[00:19:25] Let me go back to the to the complaint.

[00:19:32] It talks about Robinson's background, overcoming poverty, abusive, alcoholic father, stints in foster care, first in his family to graduate from college.

[00:19:44] CNN, CNN and Lewis love money in their cynical and malicious smears are trying to tear him down and take away all that he's achieved by portraying him as something he is not.

[00:19:54] I talked about how we joined the Army Reserve.

[00:19:58] He was honorably discharged in the 90s.

[00:20:02] He was a young father struggling to provide for his family during this period.

[00:20:06] He worked at Papa John's Pizza, eventually being promoted to manager where he sometimes managed the closing shift.

[00:20:13] Nearby was an adult video store where defendant money worked.

[00:20:17] Lieutenant Governor Robinson, who has always been a gregarious, outgoing person, made friends with defendant money who was who also worked the night shift.

[00:20:26] He would occasionally bring over free pizza and socialize.

[00:20:30] More often, however, defendant money would come over to the Papa John's looking for free or discounted pizza.

[00:20:37] All right.

[00:20:37] So what do we so what do we hear from this now?

[00:20:40] That Robinson is acknowledging that he did go over to the porn shop.

[00:20:45] That he did go over there and socialize with those guys after hours.

[00:20:50] Now, I will tell you, as one who worked in restaurants in various locations, some of which were strip malls where you would have other shops nearby.

[00:20:59] I never did that.

[00:21:01] I never had time to do that.

[00:21:03] I would not go over next door and hang out at the 7-Eleven talking with the people of it.

[00:21:08] That never I never did that.

[00:21:10] It was just you hung out there.

[00:21:12] Now, some of the people who worked nearby, they would come over to the restaurants or the bars.

[00:21:18] Right.

[00:21:19] They would come over there.

[00:21:22] But I never went over to the other shops.

[00:21:24] Now, I've also never worked at, you know, Papa John's or Domino's or kind of fast food type of a pizza joint.

[00:21:30] I was always working at the real McCoy, you know, the real pizzerias.

[00:21:35] Well, it's just one, really.

[00:21:37] But other restaurants and bars.

[00:21:39] So I never did that.

[00:21:41] But in the service industry, when you work the second shift and you work, you know, till 11, 12, 1 o'clock at night.

[00:21:47] Yes, you do end up associating with other people that keep those hours.

[00:21:51] And so I could see that.

[00:21:52] But at least now there is confirmation that Robinson did, in fact, go over to that shop.

[00:21:59] He is admitting that he would go over to the shop, but he says he didn't buy stuff over there.

[00:22:04] That, to me, doesn't sound completely believable.

[00:22:08] That you're just hanging out over there and you never purchased a single video while you were over there.

[00:22:16] Ever.

[00:22:17] For cash or something.

[00:22:21] So I don't know.

[00:22:22] I don't know the truth.

[00:22:23] Just trying to be equally skeptical.

[00:22:26] I'm applying a consistent standard.

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[00:23:47] The complaint goes on to say, contrary to the portrayal by the defendant,

[00:23:53] Louis Love Money,

[00:23:54] Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson was not spending hours at the video store five nights a week.

[00:23:59] He was not renting or previewing videos.

[00:24:02] And he did not purchase a bootleg or other videos from defendant money.

[00:24:07] When Robinson managed the closing shift, usually closing at around midnight,

[00:24:13] he went home after work so that he could wake up at a reasonable hour

[00:24:16] and spend time with his wife and two young children.

[00:24:19] Robinson stopped working at Papa John's in or about early 2001.

[00:24:24] And from then until 2022, he never saw defendant money again.

[00:24:30] He worked for various manufacturing companies.

[00:24:33] And it says he was an early adopter of Facebook.

[00:24:36] He joined in 2007.

[00:24:38] He has maintained an unlocked public account since then.

[00:24:41] He was also an active user, getting into heated political and social debates

[00:24:45] with other Facebook users from those early days.

[00:24:48] Against the advice of many, he never deleted his history or made the account private.

[00:24:54] He believes in transparency.

[00:24:55] Even though his views have changed over the course of 17 years,

[00:24:59] as a public servant, Lieutenant Governor Robinson believes that North Carolina voters

[00:25:03] have the right to know what he has said in the past

[00:25:04] and critically to this lawsuit, what he has not.

[00:25:09] Robinson in 2008 started a new chapter in his life, bursting onto the political scene

[00:25:14] as a complete outsider.

[00:25:15] Talks about how he went to the city council meeting.

[00:25:17] He got more interested in politics.

[00:25:20] He became a tireless leader.

[00:25:24] In 2022, Lieutenant Governor Robinson was at Planet Fitness for his routine workout.

[00:25:30] Okay, well, that's not true.

[00:25:34] That nobody goes to Planet Fitness for a routine workout.

[00:25:39] I kid.

[00:25:40] Planet Fitness, I kid.

[00:25:43] It was defendant money.

[00:25:49] Oh, he heard a friendly greeting while he was there doing his workout.

[00:25:54] And it was money.

[00:25:56] Robinson recognized him but could not place him at the time.

[00:25:59] They had a pleasant conversation that consisted mostly of money saying how proud he was of Mark

[00:26:04] and that it was great to see a regular working class guy succeed in politics.

[00:26:07] There was no talk about bootleg videos or Robinson owing him any money.

[00:26:12] Money asked for a photo and that was the end of the encounter.

[00:26:16] Robinson didn't give it a second thought.

[00:26:18] He was regularly recognized for his public role

[00:26:21] and he was always happy to speak with and take photos with constituents and acquaintances.

[00:26:25] Unknown to him, however, money would later use this encounter

[00:26:29] and their prior passing acquaintance against him in a fantasy

[00:26:33] concocted by money to embarrass and tear him down

[00:26:36] and to seek his own 15 minutes of fame.

[00:26:39] He released the music video in 2024.

[00:26:42] It was seen by very few people.

[00:26:45] But then he gave the interview to the Assembly.

[00:26:49] And as a publication, according to the lawsuit, which I was not aware of this,

[00:26:54] it has ties to George Soros.

[00:27:03] No, I had no idea.

[00:27:05] The Assembly article was viewed by tens of thousands of people,

[00:27:09] which also raised the profile of the music video,

[00:27:13] causing thousands of people to view it and share it online.

[00:27:17] Leftists, mainly.

[00:27:19] When Defendant Money describes in the song,

[00:27:23] in the Assembly interview, he called it a harmless joke.

[00:27:27] The entire premise of the music video, though, is not a joke, but a deliberate lie.

[00:27:31] Moreover, the music video was intended to be understood as fact,

[00:27:35] not as hyperbole or exaggeration.

[00:27:37] Money admits this in the Assembly article.

[00:27:40] Money spins his fantasy to even greater heights of falsity and depravity

[00:27:46] in that interview by claiming Robinson,

[00:27:49] then a financially struggling married father of two young children,

[00:27:52] was spending every night after work for hours at a time

[00:27:56] until four in the morning,

[00:27:57] hanging out at an adult video store

[00:27:59] and spending thousands of dollars on hardcore bootleg porn videos

[00:28:04] and on private booth previews.

[00:28:06] Every bit of this is knowingly false,

[00:28:09] but Money uses his selfie with Lieutenant Governor Robinson

[00:28:13] and his fellow porn store friends as supposed corroboration.

[00:28:18] Right.

[00:28:19] To me, that was always the glaringly obvious problem with the story that the Assembly did.

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