NC Democrats attacking one of their own over illegal immigration (08-07-2025--Hour1)

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McFadden, our illustrious sheriff. When he's not letting people loose, he's frustrated that his command staff forces him to use racial epithets, but she voted with the Republicans and this has gotten the Democrats very angry. Last week I played clips of the full was it last week or maybe it was two weeks ago. I guess it was last week, and I played her full speech ran about six minutes. She was interrupted twice by Democrats and leftists. The first was the first interruption was a bunch of the people in the gallery that started coughing and clearing their throats really loudly, you know, like that kind of thing, and the Speaker of the House, Deston Hall, had to gabble them down and say act like adults. Basically, by the way, we're going to have Speaker of the House Deston Hall on the show here at two o'clock, so third hour of the show today will be chatting with him. They've still got more vetos to get through, but on this one they need on all veto overrides. They need a Democrat on board because they are one seat shy of a super majority, and so Carla Cunningham was that Democrat vote and she got up and explained her vote in this speech. Again, she got interrupted by the peanut gallery and then she got interrupted by a fellow Democrat lawmaker deb we will not yeah, mister speaker Butler from New Hanover County, who is very theatrical in her performances, and she attempted to shut down Cunningham by calling the question basically, I call for a vote, just like the and floor debate, and let's just move the question. She did not want Cunningham to be able to finish explaining why she wanted this vote or why she wanted to side with the Republicans, and her comments were directed mainly at Democrats and Democrat voters, explaining herself and her colleague did not want her to be able to do that. And immediately afterwards then we start getting all of the condemnations from her fellow Democrats. We had the senatement minority leader Sidney Batch, Democrat, who ripped into Cunningham. We saw an op or, well not an op ed, but a column in the Charlotte Observer by Paige Mastin. The opinion editor. She ripped into Cunningham saying how dare she say what she said? And what is it that she said? Well, I will play this clip again. This was the clip that I played for State Representative Caleb or sorry, State Senator Caleb Tedros from Charlotte. I had him on the show. I think that might have been Monday, and I played this clip for him because he had put out a statement saying that there's no room for what she said in the Democrat Party. And in his post on substack this statement, he said that her comment is dangerous and divisive. Here's what she said, and here's the clip I played for him because this is the one that he quoted. First, as a people, we need to recognize that it's not just the numbers that matth, but also where the immigrants come from and the culture they bring with them to another country. As the social scientists report, all cultures. Are not equal. That's it. Some immigrants come and believe they can function and isolation, refusing to adapt. They have come to our country for many reasons, but I suggest they must assimilate, adapt to the culture of the country they wish to live in. So that's what got her in all the trouble because she said all cultures are not equal. And so when I had Senator ted Dross on and I asked him, like, you said that that's divisive and dangerous. So are you making the argument that all cultures are equal? And he tap danced around in he said, well, you know, I don't mean it like that. It's the context of what she was talking about. And I said, okay, well what's the context? And well the bill. Okay, but the bill was about enforcement of illegal immigration law, right, so what was what's the context? And he never explained the context. So now we have yet another Democrat organization weighing in on this against Carla Cunningham. Here's from the Charlotte Observer Sophia Bailey and Avi Bajpai. Their story begins THUSLYE Representative Carla Cunningham's fiery speech about immigration on the House floor last week continues to draw a major pushback from fellow Democrats and hints of appetite within some corners of the party for a primary challenge. Okay, there aren't. These are not hints. There are Democrats that are calling for her to be primary down and the Young Democrats of North Carolina, the official youth arm of the state party, joined the chorus of intra party voices condemning Cunningham's remarks. Here is what the Young Democrats put out following her vote overri Governor Stein's veto of anti immigrant legislation. It's not it's an illegal immigration enforcement. See again, stop conflating illegal with legal immigration. They are different. Representative Cunningham disgraced her office with a hate filled speech. It wasn't actually hate filled. She didn't say anything hateful towards anybody. She was talking about the need to assimilate into the American society. When people come here, and when you come in such large numbers and then you self isolate and you refuse to assimilate, that creates problems because cultures clash on things they do not agree with each other on. And when you bring in too many people that have a difference in cultural norms that clashes with the home country, you're going to have bigger problems. That's what she was saying. And by the way, she's one hundred percent correct, one hundred percent correct. Of note, the Taliban this week announced the reinstitution of the stoning of women. Yeah, they're bringing it back because they haven't had themselves a good stoning in quite a while, been about thirty something years, and so now they're bringing it back where they get to, you know, accuse a woman of adultery, bury her up to her shoulders and pelt her with large rocks until she is dead. Yes, that is a cultural norm I wish to not import. That's just me, I would say on the ledger of good culture bad culture. If we're doing a comparison, if you stone women to death based on an allegation of adultery, I think you're a worse culture. And I think that gives the other culture in comparison a lot oflyway, unless they're murdering people based on accusations and only one gender, by the way, like, unless that's the case, like, there's that other culture gets to do quite a bit in order to offset that scale. You know. They go on to say, to say all cultures are not equal is completely disqualifying and has no place in our party. See what are they doing. They're doing the same thing that the Coffers and deb Butler did. Just shut up, Cunningham, that's what they're saying to her. They cannot argue the merits, just like teddros Couldn't you know? Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Mint Hill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. The trusted, talented and dedicated team at Creative Video will go over all of the details with you to create a perfect project. Satisfaction guaranteed. Drop them off in person or mail them. They'll be ready in a week or two. 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Because if you just have you know, open borders with legal immigration just as sort of a rubber stamp on millions and millions or billions of people, like I don't know if that's an unqualified good. But controlled legal immigration I would agree good. I want that. I want people who want to participate in the American project to come here. I want to want them to bring their skills and their ambition, their entrepreneurship, their love of freedom right, their willingness to be self reliant. I want all of those people. Yeah, illegal immigration, Well you know, now, I don't know who's signing the guest book on the way in. They say diversity is an unqualified good, and that is flat out false. There are good things to diversity, but there are also bad things about diversity. There are there are challenges, and you are a fool if you are blind to that. When you put people together who have competing visions of what a society should be doing and what is good or bad. They don't have the same they don't have similar views on civil rights. For example. No, it's not necessarily a good thing. Like you guys are the fish that doesn't know it's wet. Like you've just grown up as young democrats. You've just grown up in this multi plural society, multiplural, multicultural, pluralistic society, let's say that. But I guess multiplural could be an amalgamation of the two terms. Anyway, you've just grown up in this society and you think that, oh, this is normal. This is not normal. Okay, this experiment of America is unique. This is what American exceptionalism is about. It is the exception to the way societies have been ordered throughout all of human history. That's what makes us so special. But that takes work and tolerance. Yes, but when you have people of diverse opinions about things in the society, you get friction. So it's not always an unqualified good. And then they go on to quote the statue of a liberty poem because you remember when that got adopted into the US Constitution, right, And then they say we are better because of the immigrant communities who call our country, state, and cities home. Legal immigrant, legal immigrant. Cunningham's constituents deserve better than a representative who rejects this ideal. She doesn't, right, she doesn't. And by the way, I would say we are better because of the immigrant communities who call our country, state, and cities home. I would say, no, we are better when immigrants come to America and call themselves Americans. That's what makes us better, not just like, oh, this is my home, and you know, I'll maybe go back home to that other place, or I'll go someplace else and that'll be home. They said that Cunningham's floor speech dehumanizes her neighbors, which it did not. Here's the thing when you create subgroups of oppressed peoples as your coalition, your diverse coalition, which according to them, is an unqualified good. Right note the reaction. They're saying diversity is an unqualified good. But when someone has a different opinion than they do, they savage her and they threaten her with a primary because that's what this statement is doing. You'll be held accountable by your community. Good luck. They've made, They've. Solicited and supported primary challenges in the past against Cecil Brockman. He won his re election in the primary very close Michael Ray Democrat. Also he lost his primary after being targeted for crossing Governor Cooper Mecklimberg County Democrat party chair Wesley Harris told WFAE that he has received calls from Democrats across the state who want the party to help put up a primary challenger to her. To Cunningham, Harris told wfa that he cannot weigh in during primaries. I don't get to pick who is a Democrat and who isn't. And I agree with him on that that's Roy Cooper's job. Any challenge has to come from their district. He said. When you create all of these little subgroups of the oppressed, you cannot be surprised when they get angry, much like the young Democrats are now angry. You can't be surprised when they get angry. That's some other subgroup in the coalition is getting or is perceived to be getting preferential treatment by the group leaders. And that's what Cunningham was articulating. That's what she was saying. She got it. The first thing she said was I am an a DOS is what she said, ADS. I think it. Stands for I'd never heard this term before. She said it afric or is it African descendant or American descendant of slaves? I think is what she said. A DOS is what the acronym is. Right. So she is a participant and member of a subgroup in the Democrat coalition, one of the oppressed classes that Democrats keep telling their fellow Americans that you are an oppressed class. Here's how you're oppressed, and here's the oppressor, White Republicans basically, right, So when you when you start forcing that victimhood mentality into your subgroups and then aligning all of these subgroups based on their perceived depression and telling them gonna, we're gonna champion your causes and they're all gonna be equal. They're all our top priority, which, of course is garbage. You cannot have one hundred top priorities. One of them is going to be the top one, right, There's only one that's the top. And so what she was saying is that she's tired of her priorities as a member of one of the subgroups being brushed aside for the priorities of another one of your subgroups. That is a normal dynamic that happens in politics all the time. Republicans have different subgroups as well, different you know, around policy preferences and and you know things they want to say, tax rates, over foreign wars, over whatever. Like, they're different subgroups over there too. But this the Democrats, is based on identity. And when she sees prioritization being given now to some other subgroup, that's what she's for. That that's what she's pushing back against. And the Democrat's. Response is, shut up, Carla, we're gonna fire you. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. Nestled within the breath taking fourteen thousand acres of the Pisga National Forest, their cabins offer a serene escape in the heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains, centrally located between Ashville and the entrance of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park. 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Right people who get arrested for something, they end up at the jail. That's who we're talking about. And so they've been savaging her, attacking her and making this argument without any evidence, to quote a phrase that's in vogue now, without any evidence, saying that her comments are dangerous and divisive to say that all cultures are not equal. But she is correct, they are not all equal. That's not to say that you go out and target them or attack them or anything like that. It's just recognizing that if we get to pick and choose as a nation state who we would like to admit into our nation, then we have to make some sort of value judgment about the people who are coming in. And if you are coming from a culture that says, you know what our cultural norm and I'm just going to make one up here is to you know, murder every one of our neighbors just because they're. Not like us. No okay, wait that's humas, that's uh okay, never mind. So like, but there you go, Like, would you allow Amas to come in? Why not? Because it's a deaf cult, right, It's a deaf cult that wants to murder every infidel. So no, I don't want any of them moving into America. So Eric says on the UH text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc, so are they saying a culture that has public executions for gay people or says women should be totally subservient to men and that culture is no worse than any other and an unqualified good that should be accepted here. See Eric, that's the kind of question that they will not answer, just like Senator teddros would not answer that question. They don't want to have to defend their position. And I don't blame them for not thinking they have to, because media never makes them defend these decisions. They never ask the Democrats why or what evidence do you have that supports that claim? They never ask them that. King Daddy texts in and says, I guess the Democrats don't feel like we should listen to all women anymore. So across the pond, Britain's Labor government or is it labor Lebauer They put a you in their words. For some reason, the Labor government is in trouble. It's program of massive Third World immigration from places like Pakistan, sorry Pakistan and Somalia is wildly overwhelmingly unpopular. Glenn Reynolds at The New York Post says that that's not even the real problem. The real problem is that, despite the best efforts of Prime Minister Geter Sturmer and his leftist captive media, Britain's themselves have discovered just how unpopular it is. And you might think that's absurd, right if mass immigration and let's be clear, this is illegal immigration. And also let's be clear that despite Britain giving millions of dollars to the French to try to stop to have the French stop the people from getting on all the boats from France, and France is aiding and abetting this invasion of Britain. Like that's part of the story too. The French are not cracking down on this. They're allowing these operations to occur. And once they start, you know, going into the water, then maritime law says you got to rescue these people. And now they're in your country. So you may think, well, how is it that not everybody knows mass illegal immigration is so unpopular. Well, everybody doesn't know it, Reynolds says, because the government has been policing speech about immigration. The point of this is not to reduce racism or hate, but to make it harder for people to realize just how many of their fellow citizens feel the same way they do. That's why you police the speech. This is what Rush law and the audience that he had recognized, and it's what made him so popular, was that he got on the radio and he said things that many, many millions of people agreed with but thought nobody else thought like they did because they weren't hearing any of these arguments being articulated. Rush gets on the air, and now they hear somebody saying the same thing, like that's what I think too. I thought I was alone. And then you hear people call in and they're like, I think the same thing. And then you get a permission structure, which is what happened with Trump in the last election. Right when all of a sudden, Elon Musk comes out and you get other people that are like, you know, oh my god, like Zuckerberg, even he's like, man, he looked pretty cool and he stood up, fight fight fight, Right, It granted permission for people to say, you know, this is cool, this is okay, I can do this. Britain has been persecuting people who have been trying to call attention to the problem, and as the government gives light sentences to child rapists there, it then imprisons moms for tweets on the grounds of inciting race hatred. They're literally going into people's homes based on Facebook posts. And the whole point of this effort is to construct and maintain something known as a preference falsification, which I'd never heard of before. This is usually found in authoritarian regimes. The trick is here with a preference falsification is that you make citizens pretend that they believe what the government says when they really don't, but you force them to pretend. You make them pretend that they believe it, and fake their approval of what the government does. You promote marches and demonstrations and speech all in favor of the government's preferred positions, and you severely punish marches, demonstrations, and speech that oppose the government's favored positions. And if you do it right, you can have like ninety percent of your population hating you and your policies but doing and saying absolutely nothing about them. Because everybody in that ninety percent thinks they're part of a tiny minority. Resistance seems to be futile. And it works until it doesn't. This is the problem that Britain is facing right now. It's starting to not work anymore. The problem with preference falsification Reynolds rights is that sooner or later, some event or some development can make people realize that what they have been told to is popular is in fact very unpopular. They realize they are the majority opinion. When that happens, As Duke University scholar Timor Kiran writes in his book Private Truths, Public Lies, the result is a preference cascade. I've talked about preference cascades for years. Think of it in this term. Slowly at first, then very quickly. That's a preference cascade. That was Russe Limbaugh's rise, a preference cascade. All of a sudden, people realize I'm not the only one that's my preference. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News, as they make the media landscape more transparent. When when you have a large swath of the population wake up and realize that their dissident views are in fact widely held, well, then they become less afraid of the government and less hesitant about sharing their true sentiments, and that can be very dangerous for a regime that has been gaslighting them. Right this is all from a piece by Glenn Reynolds. Well not all. I've been peppering in my own thoughts as I go Glenn Reynolds at the New York Post. Glenn Reynolds, by the way, is a professor of law at the University of Tennessee and he is the founder of the Instapundit blog. Instapundit dot com is the website. So what's happening now in Britain? People are waking up to the realization that the majority of them actually agree with each other and not the government after a string of cases in which migrants sexually assaulted local girls and women. See, this has been a problem going on in Britain for probably a decade now, and you've reached critical mass. There are so many victims and the government's efforts to keep a lid on the story has not worked. Thanks to the rise of new media podcasters, you know, British based YouTuber and stuff. They've been covering these stories and the more they cover them, the more people realize that what they had heard or what they had experienced is actually pretty common now. So now they've started taking to the streets. There have been demonstrations in Britain over the last two weeks. The demonstrations are too big to hide. It's not like twelve people in front of some you know, gas station, much like the UH the No King's. Rally or the UH what was it? The Rage against the Regime protest last weekend here in the States. These are too big to hide. They're cropping up in every corner of the nation, organized largely on Facebook and other social media. After London police I saw this story when it happened the other day. They tried to ban protesting outside of one of these migrant hotels literally hotel where the government is putting up all of these migrants. They're paying for their room and board, giving them stipends and such authorities. They first tried to ban the protest, and then they walked it back with a clarification that the ban applied only to specific protesters, just people with these names like Tommy Robinson. I gots it questionable. Groups of masked, thuggish counter protesters have been allegedly delivered two marches in police buses. They're literally bussing people in to counter protest the British protesters who are demanding a stop to this illegal immigration that is changing the very society. When they tried to bring one of these buses in, though they found themselves outnumbered and were pushed back by the crowds, by the British crowds, shoving them back into the vans. I didn't think the Brits had it in them. I thought anybody that would behave that way already immigrated to America. But sometimes, Reynolds writes, preference cascades presage major political changes. Other times, as in the infamous case of Nicholas Chichescu's Communist Romania, they produce violent revolution. The one thing about preference falsification is that a lot of times it keeps the It keeps not just the people in the dark, but really even not so much, because the people know what's going on around them in their daily lives, their real lives, and they just pretend to go along with this fake news from the government. Right, what's the joke from communist Russia? It was the old Soviet Union. They would say, like, we listen to the news and we pretend that they're not lying to us, and they pretend that we don't know they're lying to us. They would watch the news just to know what the government wanted them to believe, not that they believed it, they just would watch it to know what the propaganda was. But not only does it try to deceive the public, but it also keeps the government itself in the dark too. In Chichescu's case, he genuinely believed that his people loved him, right up until he was dragged out of his mansion and shot. The British establishment would have been better served to let its citizens to debate the immigration question openly and fairly, but it didn't do that because it knew it would lose such a debate, so it foisted open borders on a nation that did not want that, and then try to silence the opposition. And now we are watching as the regime's strategy collapses and the preference cascade is in the very fast phase. Right. It was slowly at first and then very quickly. Is this going to end Keir Starmer's career, result in his ouster or worse violence? I'm seeing a lot of people talking about the potential for violence in Britain coming their way. I don't know. I don't make predictions, but it'd have been better off just having the debate, all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.