NC AG claims credit for doing what his predecessor claimed credit for (04-10-2024--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowApril 10, 202400:29:0426.66 MB

NC AG claims credit for doing what his predecessor claimed credit for (04-10-2024--Hour3)

This episode is presented by Carolina Readiness Supply North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein is claiming credit for clearing the backlog of sexual assault "kits" that was supposedly cleared out by his predecessor, now-Governor Roy Cooper, who made a similar claim in 2016. Stein is now running for Governor.

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[00:00:38] consensus so far is that the call or Davis was full of crap. Just a heads up on that

[00:00:43] one. Just reading the messages. Nobody believes you. So they don't believe what you said

[00:00:51] and they don't believe that you are what you claim to be. Alright, North Carolina has officially

[00:01:01] ended a decades long backlog of untested rape kits, sexual assault kits that are taken from

[00:01:12] victims at the hospital and then they're sent off to the state crime lab to be processed

[00:01:18] so they can get DNA and then they can get convictions. Rape kits. These have been, the

[00:01:28] backlog has been an issue in North Carolina for a couple of years now if I recall correctly

[00:01:34] and so the Attorney General Josh Stein is taking a victory lap. He did this yesterday

[00:01:40] I want to say and let me see, let me pull up my bookmarks here. Yes, so yesterday he sends

[00:01:52] out a series of tweets saying North Carolina has ended the sexual assault kit backlog.

[00:01:58] This is a milestone more than six years in the making to deliver justice for victims

[00:02:03] and survivors. We owe a debt of gratitude to the survivors who have advocated for this

[00:02:08] work. I want to say a special thank you to Ms. Linda who turned her tragedy into tireless

[00:02:13] advocacy for other survivors. I am so grateful that we are working together on a bipartisan

[00:02:20] basis to pursue justice by reviewing and testing these older kits. Each kit belongs to a person

[00:02:26] who experienced a brutal trauma. They deserve our best efforts to seek justice and get

[00:02:31] their rapists off the streets. I want to thank legislators of both parties in

[00:02:37] the General Assembly for their support. This bipartisan effort demonstrates we can rise

[00:02:45] above politics to make a real difference for North Carolinians when we work together. I

[00:02:55] also want to thank the law enforcement officers who have worked hard to get these kits tested

[00:03:00] and are now pursuing leads on these cold cases. They've made 114 arrests already and

[00:03:05] we're just getting started. And then he thanks the crime lab people and then says to the offenders,

[00:03:13] you know, we will do what we everything in our power to hold you accountable to the victims.

[00:03:18] We care about you and we'll never stop pursuing justice into the public. We are

[00:03:22] committed to working with the community partners to keep pursuing justice. Right.

[00:03:26] Okay. So first off, good, good, right? Good news. They have cleared the quote backlog. Okay. Good news.

[00:03:41] I don't know how long it takes them to process a kit that now comes in because like in the past,

[00:03:48] it took like months, like seven and a half months. So I'm not really sure that if you haven't

[00:03:56] reduced that is that really clearing a backlog? Right. Because the idea is that you're so backed

[00:04:03] up that things take too long to process. And that delays justice. You know, you got the

[00:04:09] rapist on the streets that you can't take them off the streets because you can't get the

[00:04:12] kit tested. So do we have an accelerated timeline now? Now that you got rid of all the old cases,

[00:04:20] they're all processed through. So now you can work on current cases as they come in and then

[00:04:25] you can get rapists right off the street. So that's a that would be a good thing to know.

[00:04:30] But we don't learn that in his tweets nor in the press release that WLOS TV wrote. I'm just

[00:04:38] kidding. It's not a press release, but it kind of reads like one. Yeah, North Carolina has

[00:04:42] officially ended a decades long backlog of untested rape kits. Attorney General Josh Stein,

[00:04:47] who is running for governor is credited by himself with spearheading the effort that started

[00:04:53] seven years ago. So this is Josh Stein using the rape kit backlog and clearing the

[00:05:01] backlog as proof that he cares about victims. He's tough on crime. He works across the aisle.

[00:05:09] He works with law enforcement, right? And he's going to keep you safe. Right? These are all

[00:05:15] very handy messages to have in an election. There were also the very same messages that

[00:05:23] Roy Cooper used in his election when he allegedly cleared the backlog of rape kits back in 2016

[00:05:37] when he was running against Pat McCrory. Roy Cooper at that time claimed to have cleared

[00:05:43] the backlog. It wasn't true then. I have to believe because as soon as Josh Stein got

[00:05:53] into office, he started talking about clearing the backlog and people like me were saying,

[00:05:57] well, wait a minute. I thought the backlog was cleared. Roy Cooper just ran a campaign

[00:06:02] on it, then HP two, but on the crime front like this, Roy Cooper was the attorney general

[00:06:09] for 16 years. 16 years, he was AG and the AG is in charge of the crime lab. So how did

[00:06:19] the backlog begin? How did it persist? How did it get cleared, quote unquote, but then

[00:06:27] not cleared when Stein got in to the point where the state legislature majority, the

[00:06:32] Republicans, they actually had to pass a law, the Survivor Act, which you would not know

[00:06:40] by the way, based on the report at WLOS which just says the state's bipartisan survivor act.

[00:06:50] So like what did Stein pass that law? Is that how that works? Does the attorney general get to

[00:06:56] pass laws now in a bipartisan way? No, this was the legislature and the legislature was

[00:07:02] like, we're going to do this thing once you come on down to the press conference.

[00:07:07] And Stein looked super uncomfortable being there, but he kind of had to be there and

[00:07:12] Republicans knew this too. I mean, look, I'm not going to tell you that the politics had

[00:07:17] nothing to do with this either. Right? Stein had just come out of an election or was going

[00:07:22] into the election, right? Because remember, he ran against that guy, Jim O'Neill, who is,

[00:07:25] I think, the DA at Forsyth County. And Stein tried to accuse O'Neill or Neil, Jim Neil,

[00:07:32] I forget, but he tried to accuse his opponent, the Republican DA, of not having the rape kits tested

[00:07:44] while Stein is in charge of the lab that does the testing. So Democrats have been using this

[00:07:52] issue now for what? Going back to 2016, right? At least. The legislature, the Republican legislature

[00:08:06] under the Survivor Act launched a kit tracker system and a requirement that officers quickly

[00:08:13] submit tests for timely turnarounds. North Carolina had this backlog. It had lasted decades.

[00:08:23] Stein's office reported more than 16,000 kits sat untested on shelves in 2019, 2019,

[00:08:31] which is three years after he took office, right? And what, 19 years after Roy Cooper

[00:08:40] took over as Attorney General. Thanks to state and federal funding, more than 11,000 kits that

[00:08:45] needed to be tested have been resulting in more than 5,000 DNA CODIS data submissions and 114 arrests.

[00:08:55] By the way, one of the ways that they were able to accelerate and clear the backlog

[00:09:03] was the labs that they were using for all the COVID testing. Although, all those private labs,

[00:09:12] they started funneling a lot of the work to them. So they outsourced to the private sector

[00:09:19] in order to clear the backlog. Yeah.

[00:09:22] Yeah. In 2016, Roy Cooper had to run an ad about this because he said when I became a,

[00:09:33] because the Republicans had attacked him over the rape kit backlog. So he had to come out

[00:09:39] and say that when he became Attorney General, he discovered a backlog of more than 5,000 DNA

[00:09:44] test kits. So keep this in mind. He says there was a backlog of 5,000 kits when he took over.

[00:09:52] But yet, Stein's office reported 16,000 kits in 2019. So it just grew. So the number of untested

[00:10:02] kits grew under Roy Cooper's tenure as Attorney General and the first three years of Josh Stein.

[00:10:12] But now that it's been cleared, thanks to the Republican legislature passing the Survivor Act

[00:10:18] and the outsourcing to these other labs. Oh, and also local jurisdictions getting so fed up,

[00:10:24] they went and built their own crime labs like in Mecklenburg. They went and were like,

[00:10:28] we cannot count on the state to do this stuff. We're going to do it ourselves.

[00:10:32] Roy Cooper actually had to put out an ad to try to beat back this negative image.

[00:10:40] So going back to WURAL's story from 2016, eight years ago, piece by Mark Binker,

[00:10:50] quoting Roy Cooper, my good friend Ray, the governor, but then he was Attorney General and he was

[00:10:55] running against the incumbent Republican Governor Pat McCrory. And Cooper's ad said,

[00:11:00] when I became Attorney General, we discovered a backlog of more than 5,000 DNA test kits

[00:11:06] and years worth of shoddy investigations in the state crime lab. But what Governor McCrory

[00:11:11] isn't telling you is that we cleared the backlog. We also solved over 2,000 crimes and put killers

[00:11:17] and rapists in prison from cold cases. We fixed the problems at the crime lab.

[00:11:24] That's what Cooper said. And it wasn't true. Now WURAL says that, you know,

[00:11:31] fixed is a strong word. Yeah, because it indicates that you fixed it, right? Problem solved.

[00:11:38] And while it is fair to say some problems have been addressed at the lab, not all of them have been.

[00:11:46] The spot could leave viewers with the impression, this ad could leave people with the impression

[00:11:52] that the state crime lab has fully addressed all of its various problems.

[00:11:56] So we give it a red light on our fact checking scale, which is the equivalent of a lie. They did

[00:12:02] like a red light, yellow light, green light kind of deal. In 2009 and 2010, when cases involving

[00:12:11] shoddy evidence and practices were the subject of reporting by the News & Observer, WURAL News

[00:12:17] and other outlets, that led Roy Cooper, the Attorney General to call for an outside review

[00:12:23] which was led by Chris Swecker, a lawyer and a former assistant director of the FBI's

[00:12:28] Criminal Investigative Division, right? Former special agent in charge here in Charlotte as well.

[00:12:35] And Swecker did this report on the state crime lab. This was 09. By the way, 2009, 2010,

[00:12:43] Democrats still controlled the legislature. So when there were complaints about the

[00:12:49] underfunding of the crime lab, Republicans had nothing to do with this. This was all Democrat

[00:12:56] action. This was prior to 2011 when Republicans first took control of the General Assembly

[00:13:02] and then McCrory won in 2012. Following the audit by Swecker, the crime lab was once again

[00:13:10] the focus of an improvement campaign in 2014. Part of the issue is what Cooper described

[00:13:16] at the time as a deluge of evidence. He said, you have 20,000 law enforcement officers across

[00:13:22] North Carolina sending tens of thousands of cases to the lab, many of them with multiple pieces

[00:13:27] of evidence and you have about 124 scientists positions who are trying to handle all of this.

[00:13:32] The problem is that the cases keep coming and the scientists who are working as hard as they

[00:13:36] can, they can't keep up. Right? So he's blaming funding, resource problem. So when Cooper

[00:13:42] says we fixed the problems, DA said, well, that depends on what you mean by we. Like, what do you

[00:13:48] mean by we? You got a mouse in your pocket there? Right? There's a lot of people who have fixed the

[00:13:52] lab. Law enforcement agencies worked to clear up lab issues as well. Wake County, Mecklenburg

[00:13:57] County local police agencies made their own local labs so they could get quicker turnaround times.

[00:14:06] WRAL asked Cooper's office for the current number of backlogged cases

[00:14:10] and they said there is no backlog figure, but the average time to process a case was seven and a

[00:14:15] half months, which is kind of a backlog. Right? Right? If you can't turn the evidence around in,

[00:14:25] I don't know, a couple of weeks, right, two weeks to turn it around, instead seven and a

[00:14:30] half months, kind of sort of seems like there's still a backlog. So last night, it was Tuesday

[00:14:37] and so as I am known to do on certain Tuesdays of the month, I sat around watching the Charlotte

[00:14:43] Mecklenburg School Board meeting because that's my idea of a good time. But no, this one was

[00:14:50] particularly important meeting last night because the Charlotte Mecklenburg school superintendent

[00:14:57] rolled out the budget proposal. Now, this is the very beginning of the process. So

[00:15:03] we don't know what the final numbers are going to look like, but I got to tell you,

[00:15:07] they're not asking for a lot of extra money. I mean, they're asking for a lot of money,

[00:15:12] but proportionately what they're asking for is not a whole lot more than what they've already

[00:15:17] gotten, and they never get cut. And I'm not even talking in like a government

[00:15:23] accounting sort of way of a cut, which is when you ask for $100 extra

[00:15:30] over the hundred you're already getting. So you want $200, but you don't get the extra hundred,

[00:15:35] you get $90. So now you're getting $190, but then you would say I got a $10 cut,

[00:15:42] right? Because you didn't get the full ask. That's government accounting. That's

[00:15:46] Govco's mentality on what a cut is. So it's not even like that. They're asking for more money

[00:15:51] than what they currently are getting. It's like a $1.9 billion budget, which is astounding.

[00:16:03] Absolutely amazing. They've got, hang on a second here,

[00:16:08] 141,000 students, 141,000 students,

[00:16:13] $1.9 billion. If you do the math, by the way, and this is just for the operating side of it,

[00:16:23] this does not include any of the capital like the buildings, right? All of the fields and all

[00:16:31] of that stuff. No capital costs here at all. This is just for operations, operating.

[00:16:37] You divide the $1.9 billion by the 141,000 students and the budget cost per pupil,

[00:16:46] $13,053. So just a little bit above $13 grand per kid per year. That's what it costs to educate

[00:16:58] the children in Charlotte Mecklenburg, $13,000 a year.

[00:17:05] Which is like that's pretty close to college tuition levels, right?

[00:17:16] Charlotte Observer Reporting by Rebecca Noll. It includes a $632, roughly million

[00:17:23] request to the county government, which is a 5.86% increase over what it currently gets this year.

[00:17:31] So they're asking for about $35 million extra from Mecklenburg County commissioners.

[00:17:37] Of that additional $35 million, 14 of it would go towards increasing teacher pay.

[00:17:45] All teachers in North Carolina are paid according to the same salary guidelines,

[00:17:48] which are set by the state legislature. The current base salary for beginning teachers

[00:17:54] in the state with no experience is $39,000. It'll reach $41,000 by the end of next fiscal year

[00:18:03] rather, next fiscal year, the 24-25 fiscal year. Individual districts then can boost

[00:18:11] teacher pay by offering a supplement. Okay? Mecklenburg County does that. Mecklenburg

[00:18:16] County has a supplement of almost $10,000 and they're proposing a boost to that of about $1,000.

[00:18:25] And as it was expressed last night during the meeting, they want Charlotte Mecklenburg

[00:18:30] schools to offer the biggest supplement in the state. They want teacher pay to be the highest

[00:18:38] here in the state so as to attract all of the people that want to get into teaching

[00:18:43] for the right reasons. I mean to, sorry, to attract the best teachers.

[00:18:51] Right. And you can only do that by offering $10,800 in supplement versus $10,270.

[00:19:04] Right? So that, so the extra $600, that's how you get the best. Okay.

[00:19:10] The plan calls for an average teacher supplement of just under $11,000. That's a 5% increase.

[00:19:18] And they say that that still leaves starting teacher salaries below a quote livable wage. Now,

[00:19:27] I thought this was interesting because look, I've covered budget cycles in Charlotte Mecklenburg,

[00:19:32] City Council County Commission, school board did it for like a decade covered state

[00:19:37] budgets as a reporter for the same amount of time and have continued to monitor. I mean,

[00:19:42] I don't cover them as a reporter when I became a host but I still monitor the budget process.

[00:19:49] But I'm not doing deep dives into all of the budgets like I used to as a reporter.

[00:19:55] However, there was a slide that I was watching last night and I gotta tell you,

[00:19:58] I never remember the livable wage being factored into the budget discussions.

[00:20:04] And I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm just saying this is a sort of a new metric that

[00:20:09] they've introduced. Well, they put up a slide last night that shows the average listing price for

[00:20:17] a home in Charlotte at $522,000. The average cost to rent, they peg it at just over $1,400

[00:20:26] a month for a one bedroom apartment in Charlotte is over $1,400 a month.

[00:20:31] And then they have income needed to rent a one bedroom apartment based on that $1,400 a month

[00:20:38] and they peg the salary then needed at $61,500. So $61,500 roughly, little bit less.

[00:20:49] But here's the thing in when you're doing budgeting at your household budget and you want

[00:20:54] to determine how much you should be spending on housing, there's the 30% rule. You don't want

[00:21:02] to spend more than a third of your income gross on and I believe that's gross, maybe I'm mistaken

[00:21:10] in its net but when you're factoring how much you spend on housing, you don't want to spend

[00:21:17] more than a third. So if you do the third, you do a 30% and well, you actually don't come to a $61,479,000

[00:21:29] salary. You come up with about 10 grand lower than that. So I'm unclear as to why

[00:21:37] this livable wage and this home rental deal at $1,400 for the monthly rent

[00:21:44] because by my math, it's like $52,000 you would need, not $61,500.

[00:21:55] So I don't know how they got that number. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

[00:21:59] Now also, do you know why the cost of living is high in Mechelber County?

[00:22:06] Could it have something to do with a $1.9 billion budget for one local governmental agency,

[00:22:15] not counting the city of Charlotte's budget and not counting Mechelber County's budget?

[00:22:21] Oh, and also all of the zoning regulations that the city of Charlotte controls. Do you think

[00:22:26] maybe these four items I've just listed, three government budgets that total somewhere north

[00:22:32] of $6 billion a year plus the regulatory regimes in place for the zoning? Do you think these might

[00:22:39] have some sort of an impact on the livability, the cost of living in Charlotte that you are now using

[00:22:45] as evidence for raising government spending? I'm just spitballing.

[00:22:51] Okay, if you're listening to this podcast, you are obviously paying attention to the world

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[00:23:44] So things are going to be very difficult here at WBT for a long time, I think.

[00:23:52] It's been a difficult day. I noticed there was something odd. We got our schedules kind of printed

[00:23:59] out, sent to us via email, I should say, from the boss, Mike Schaefer. And I noticed that

[00:24:07] our morning guy here, Beau Thompson, that he had taken a couple of days off and then

[00:24:13] the schedules showed that he was off again for a couple more days. It got tacked on to the

[00:24:17] end of it and I thought, oh, that's weird because Beau, like, he doesn't really take

[00:24:20] many days off to begin with, but then it's odd that there would be the days he had that he was off

[00:24:27] like middle of the week and it just really didn't make any sense. And what I found out this morning

[00:24:34] as a lot of others found out that his daughter who was at Wake Forest, she died. She passed away.

[00:24:42] She had a blood clot in her leg that traveled to her heart. She was a Myers Park grad.

[00:24:50] She played basketball and softball. She then went on to Wake Forest. Myers Park put out a message.

[00:24:59] Wake put out a message. Radio One, our parent company here, put out a statement here.

[00:25:08] The WBT and Radio One family is deeply saddened by the tragic passing of Beau Thompson's daughter,

[00:25:16] Janie. There are no words to provide adequate comfort under these circumstances,

[00:25:21] but we are committed to supporting Beau and his family in any way possible during this difficult

[00:25:27] time. We know that the Radio One community of listeners joins us in prayers for the

[00:25:34] Thompson family. So I'm not aware yet of any arrangements that have been made

[00:25:45] or anything like that yet to pass along so I cannot. I don't have any other information

[00:25:51] to pass along. I heard Vince today offer up a prayer. I thought that was very,

[00:25:58] very nice of him to do. He does it very well. I do not. I've never been good at it.

[00:26:07] So I would recommend going pull Vince's prayer at, it was at 11 o'clock this morning.

[00:26:16] Or say your own prayer now.

[00:26:21] I'm sure they would appreciate that.

[00:26:29] Yes, that's one of the things about this job. It's like you're supposed to know what to say

[00:26:35] and I don't know what to say.

[00:26:39] There's a, I mean, I don't have children so I could not even imagine.

[00:26:45] So all I can say is that, you know, we have prayers for comfort

[00:26:51] and for strength for the family, for the friends.

[00:27:00] Because I'm speechless in grief but also my inability to understand for the family.

[00:27:13] There is information at WBT.com

[00:27:17] talks about the work that Janie did. She volunteered for the Isabella Santos Foundation.

[00:27:23] She served as a student assistant at Footbridge Clinic,

[00:27:28] which provides free dental care to local veterans.

[00:27:39] She was a sophomore at Wake Forest University.

[00:27:43] She was majoring in biophysics and she was a member of the National Society of Physics Students,

[00:27:51] Sigma Pi Sigma, as well as Delta Delta Delta Sorority.

[00:27:57] She was active in Women's Club Basketball and Wake Radio Club on campus

[00:28:04] because of course she's Bo's daughter.

[00:28:06] So don't know what the, you know, the broadcast schedule looks like for any time soon.

[00:28:13] I know you understand that.

[00:28:16] But again, if you've got the heart and the mind and, you know,

[00:28:22] even if you don't have the words, just say a prayer for the Thompson family.

[00:28:31] We appreciate it.

[00:28:32] All right, that'll do it for the next episode.

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