More on the new "Gang of Six" (11-24-2025--Hour3)

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They are mental, they are you know, they don't want to debate issues, they don't want to talk about facts. They just go out and create things and don't want any repercussions. And again, what I'm saying is going to presuppose some things that I don't mean to, but it presupposes that they when they were making this, because there had to be a discussion, there had to be planning. What are we going to say? How are we going to release it? We're all together? Who said no? Ernest's question is who did they go to? Others that said no, I'm not going that far? Did you know what? What were the the plan? Who was behind it? Did Mark Kelly say, hey, I'm going to go to Slockin or did slock and go to Kelly? And did the rest of them just glam on? We don't know. There's so much. There's more that we don't know, but it's been done. They put a video together telling the military to disobey orders. That is in any other country, that's an act of treason. In this country, it's it's treason US. You can't go out and do that. You're sitting member of commerce, you are an elected official, and you're trying to get the US military to turn on itself or turn on the commander in chief with no by the way, with no proof, and when confronted on Sunday, Slochan was given the opportunity to say, here's what I think was illegal, and she had nothing she had to her knowledge, there wasn't nothing illegal, even though she claimed there was. There have to be consequences. There have to be consequences for their actions. So I don't know where that's going to go, but certainly it's this is the beginning of that story, not the ends. And Mark Kelly now being investigated by the Pentagon again, what and what was it they hoped to achieved? Did they hope that there would be a mass defiance of rank and file military? Did they hope that there would be mass defiance from officers in the military. Did they hope that the military from the Pentagon and the DoD would stop and go after the march on the White House? They just take that to it's just logical, you know, And I'm not blowing this out of proportion. They didn't say, you know, just rank and file privates. They said military, which was almost a call to arms against the executive brssion. Now, as much as the political left makes say of January sixth, which we learn more and more about every day, there were two hundred and forty informants and FBI folks in the crowd. There were there's a lot more questions there that still need to be answered. But if you think that was a riot, and you think that the US government was threatened by January sixth, and you don't think that sitting members of Congress essentially telling the military to disobey orders is not problematic, then you're the one with the problem, not the president. If you can't connect those two dots, they're both they're both wrong. You don't use in the military. By the way, the people who invaded Congress that day weren't armed. They didn't have the people in the military are. They have big dangerous things. If you want to turn that on the American people, it would be bad. Were they calling for the military to go after the executive branch, that's an act of treason. And I don't want to overstate that. I'm certainly not trying to pander to people's fears or anything, but it's a treason this act, and quite terrifying to me it is. But we'll see how that all plays out, because I think we're still in the beginning of that story, and it may in it you know what. And I'll give the other the other simpleton version of this too is they were sitting around going, Wow, we really think this presence out of bounds, this whole thing with Venezuela and hitting those boats. That's terrible that we got to do something. Has there been a due process? They can't reconcile that sending, you know, things that kill three million Americans a year or whatever is bad enough that we should stop them and stop them before they get here, stop the enemy before it arrives on our shores. And so they could have easily had that debate about foreign policy. They could have easily gone to Congress and said, hey, we need to stop this military intervention in the drug trade. But they didn't do that. They said defy orders. Very different, But they could have. And it may be that they just acted in ignorance, that these six Democrats were just woefully ignorant of what they were doing and said, hey, we'll put together a video because we're standing up for the every man that doesn't want to kill drug dealers, and you know, because we're better than drug dealers. So and I'll give them that, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But still it creates an active treason. It doesn't mean that what they did was right. So we'll see how that all plays out. Now, I do I mentioned healthcare. Healthcare is not nearly as exciting, but it affects all of us in some way, and we often confuse. We often confuse health insurance for health care, and they're vastly different things. Because you, if I were to pull if I were to have a legitimate poll of listeners to this station, we have left, right and center that listen, and I were to ask you how much does healthcare cost? I would think the overwhelming majority of you would not know. You know what your insurance cost are, you know what probably your deductibles are. You know what your copay is for your drugs, your medications, but you don't know what the actual cost of probably any of it is. Now further, it gets more confusing. Most of your doctors don't know what the cost of healthcare is. Most of the people in doctors' offices don't know what the cost of the services they deliver. I'd give you a personal example when I had to have a test run and there were two different well not tests. They were going to do a procedure, and they said, oh, well this is you can do this procedure which is covered by insurance, or you can do it with a different, more advanced way, but your insurance isn't going to cover the more advanced way. And I said, okay, well, so I'll just pay for the more advanced way. How much is it? It took them four days to call me back to tell me what the cost of the procedure was. This was minor things and they couldn't so four days later and it was like, I don't know, two three hundred bucks and I was like, sure, let's go, and no big deal. It took me longer to find out the answer for the cost than the schedule and do the procedure, which took like a day, and the procedure took like that fifteen minutes. So that's the kind of looney medical stuff that we've got going on, and I want to get to The Paragrin Institute has a very good piece about some of the discussion before the Senate Finance Committee. I think most Americans would find interesting. It can get a little in the weeds. I don't want to get too far in the weeds, but I want to I'm hopefully going to provoke thought with this. That would be my goal is to provoke some thinking about this, and so when on the other side of the break, we will do that and also get to your calls if you're interested at seven oh four five, seven eleven ten, and we appreciate that. Also we'll talk a little bit about the Ukraine, Russia stuff, the Nigeria stuff, and also we will get to You're gonna love this nasal drops for brain tumors. Also probably get to Donald Trump and aliens toward the end of the broadcast, which I find fascinating. Several stories circulating about that today. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life. And our stories are told through images and videos. 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I don't know what it's going to be. There's obviously a lot on the table right now, the Ukraine Russia situation. The President's given the Ukrainians still I think Thursday to have a deadline on. I think it's not a hard and fast headline, but it. The President is also tweeted out on his platform that on true social that he it leads you to believe something's in the works now. I don't know if there will be anything in the work, So I don't know if it has anything, probably nothing to do with four PM. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has also indicated some and again, foreign policy is messy. Foreign policy is difficult. You know, the surest sign that a deal is going to be made is when both sides are unhappy. But even Rubio has admitted that it appears some progress is being made. This could be great news for the planet and certainly for that area of the world. As as we head towards the end of twenty twenty five, it would be lovely to see something like that happen. So just keep you on alert. Around four pm today, you're probably gonna hear some news. I don't know what it is. Maybe he's partying turkeys, I don't know, but a lot of people are talking about it. Perryon Institute put out some good information about healthcare that I think is worth and again, the two most boring subjects to me, and yet two of the most important topics are certainly health care and climate. Why do I say they're important to it because the threat to your rights, the threat to you is real, even though it's boring, because those two topics affect what you can do to live, thrive, and survive. And you know, as much as people want to say there's an affordability Congress. I'm sorry, an affordability crisis. The truth is we have it's not a healthcare crisis. It is a health care ignorance that we have in this country, and it is widespread, and it has created a system that is it's just broken. It's a broken system. We have amazing doctors, we have amazing health care, but it's become an untenable, difficult to understand system that I believe is starting to create massive stress for people. So it may it can solve some of the most complex, difficult healthcare conundrums at the same time creating many others because of the stress of navigating the system. I know this because I try to navigate it week to week, day to day, year to year, and it's not easy, and understanding it is difficult. So what they're saying is, you know, for tens of millions of Americans, neither healthcare nor health coverage is affordable. And once we account for the taxes and debt require of finance government health programs, healthcare is not just unaffordable, it's a direct threat to our fiscal future. Counterproductive government policies, and they are like the affordable care it's not productive. Counterproductive have significantly contributed to high and rising health care prices in spending, both by inflating demand through excessive subsidies in other words, it's encouraging people to go get a lot of stuff they don't need done and subsidizing it and mandates, and by restricting supply through regulations that protect incumbent insurers, that protect hospital systems, and protect monopolies. These combined forces drive higher prices and produce rampant inefficiencies. Because there is nothing efficient about our healthcare in the way it's delivered, in the way you get processed through the system. You realize very quickly you're a number, you're a stat you are irrelevant to the system. Again, those are my words, not the articles. In many sectors of the economy, and listen to this. This is an economic reality. Products and services have improved in quality over time. Look at your phone, look at the tech in your car, look at almost every aspect, look at your TVs that you have. In almost every way, products have improved in quality, while real prices, even accounting for inflation, have declined. TVs are cheaper than they were, TVs are larger, better, and cheaper than they were ten years ago. Health care is a glaring exception. Rather than delivering higher quality at lower prices, the hospital sector, now the largest driver of US health spending, has delivered the opposite, steeply rising prices, declining competition. And Dale Folwell, the former treasurer of the state of North Carolina, to talk to this all the time. He called our hospital systems in North Carolina cartels, and they operate like cartels. They are not focused on delivering a better quality service at a lower price. Ever, and the government protects that through our certificate of need process in North Carolina, along with a thousand other decisions. Steeply rising prices, declining competition, and consolidation. Again with our healthcare system, you've seen that in our hospitals. That shields providers from market discipline. As the data show, prices for hospital services, the largest component of health care, has risen three times faster than inflation since the turn of the century meeting of the test twenty five years. No major industry in the entire nation has experienced faster price escalation than hospitals. As healthcare costs have risen, insurance premiums have soared at the same time, planned deductibles have also risen. So, in other words, your deductible's gone sky high and your cost has gone sky So you're getting less bang for your buck every day. And what's the Democrat's answer to hold the government hostage just to subsidize it more. But back to the column. To understand why costs have risen sharply, policymakers must and again trying to deal with solutions. Policymakers must look beyond market forces and recognize how federal policy, especially the Affordable Care Act, has contributed to higher premiums, narrower networks, and reduced affordability. In twenty twenty four, healthcare spending was eighteen percent of the US gross domestic product, a thirty eight percent increase from two thousand, when it was only thirteen percent of US GDP. Are we delivering better outcomes? Are we delivering more efficient services? Are we getting more bang for our button? No, it's just risen. It's taking a larger and larger chunk of our GDP. A significant part of that is waste. Most estimates suggest up to a quarter of health care spending provides people with little if any health benefit, Despite widespread inefficiencies in the with health sector. There are pockets of excellence. In the fast few decades, there have been meaningful advances such as declining cardiac mortality, improvement and cancer survival rates, a cure for Hepatitis C, and new AIDS treatments. Yet health outcomes have stagnated. American life expectancy is lower in twenty nineteen than it was in twenty thirteen before the ACA. In other words, before the affair We're Care Act, we were living longer, and by twenty nineteen, by the word pre COVID were health care, we were declining. So I don't want to get bogged down into too much of this is a very complex article. Of point I'm making is that the the government is inflating health care prices because of tax and spending policies government healthcare. Government spending on healthcare, including state and local spending is now forty eight percent of US health care expenditures in twenty twenty three, so half of all the dollars spend in healthcare. We're by government, either state, local, or national. And you have and I don't mean, I don't mean you you like me accusing you, I include me and the u US. We don't know what that gets us. There's no accountability for how that money is spent, in what we're getting for that money, and the Congress doesn't seem to care. Republicans are Democrats alike, and at some point we really need to get more government out of our healthcare system because otherwise we're gonna end up like the national healthcare system in Great Britain. It's gonna be broke, You're gonna have people in the hallways. It's not gonna work, or we have a bifurcated we kind of do. Now we have a private healthcare system and a public one in a way, and that's not going to be That's not going to end well for us. When government subsidizes something, that thing becomes more expensive every time. Think about that. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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Trump's comments come shortly after Texas declared the Muslim Brotherhood of terrorist organization in just days after the Institute the Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy, a prominent global research center, released a comprehensive two hundred page study warning about its growing influence in the country. So we'll see. He also is, you know, it's drawn up documents about what's going on in Venezuela and going after that group as as well. And you know what they're trying to do there is they're closing the circle on Maduro and trying to get him to resign. So we'll see how that turns out. But certainly they're trying to get the car. They've designated Cartel Dello Souls, which is the other one, as a terrorist organization. In so doing that that gives carte blanche to go after those those two organizations. Those are huge designations. They have a lot of foreign policy implications and domestic policy. So once you determine that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization, the activities within this country become under the purview of Homeland Security and the FBI. There is no I do not know the depths. I suspect that would be a big deal. We will see. So the four PM deadline not entirely sure what's going to happen there, but it is significant and we will see how that shakes out. So another thing that's going on is in Nigeria. The situation there continues to deteriorate. From a Christian standpoint, it's a shame that NBCCBS, ABC and others are ignoring this massive story. More than three hundred children in staff have been kidnapped by government from a Catholic school in central Nigeria, making it one of the worst mass abductions the country has seen. This is in addition to two hundred and seventy six subducted during the Chickbox mass subduction of twenty fourteen. It's literally a genocidal situation. That's happening over there, and it's being targeted because of christian If you have Christian beliefs or whatever. The targeting is against Christians there. I don't know where that ends up. I don't know how long it goes on, but that situation is something to keep an eye on. It's not getting a lot of press coverage out there. It's happening nonetheless. So four pm today, it looks like it's going to be certainly against the Muslim Brotherhood Executive Order. I don't know what that will look like, but designating them a terrorist organization, the implications are rather massive. So as we get toward the top of the hour, I tend to move in toward scientific and interesting kind of stories that I find interesting. One of the other ones that's out there that is going on is that again, it's hard to even make this jump, but I'm going to do it anyway, because well I can. The director. There's a new documentary out there about UFOs called The Age of Disclosure. Now a lot of people are speculating that a lot of the more recent UFO spottings and things of this nature are drones. Certainly, drone technologies come a long way and if you look at the drones that you can get at Target or Walmart or Costco or whatever, what you can do with a small drone is amazing. But imagine the kind of tech that the US military or any other kind of organization might have with respect the drones and the speed and how they operate, could could almost defy science in a way. I don't know how advanced they are. We don't know, but we have to assume with what you and I can do that there must be far more advanced stuff that's available. But there is a new documentary called Age of Disclosure that is making strong suggestions about the government's relationship with non human intel. And we know that the US military has been engaged in dog fights with technology it is far superior than our own that no country on the planet has, with things that can defy the laws of physics, can go underwater, above water. Can you know have seen price seeing speeds and turns? And so Dan Fair, the director of that film which does hit you know it's in theaters. There are many suggestions now again if this is either the yet another bigfoot sasquatch lockness monster Taro dact spotted at the Mexican border story, an absolute loon story, or it's the greatest story in our lifetime. It's one of these two. But what they're saying is, I think it's only a matter of time before the release of the film is followed by a sitting president, and they're suggesting Trump would step to the podium and tell the world we're not alone in the universe. It would be the most significant moment a leader could possibly have that we aren't alone. The implications of that would be massive. Pharaoh spoke to thirty four. He's the director of this film thirty four US government insiders, including those from the military and intel community, about an eighty year global cover up of non human intelligent life. Roughly that time frame is the Roswell incident in July third, nineteen forty five. So it's going back to that when the US military said, hey, we recovered a flying saucer and then days later said no, we didn't and it was a weather balloon, acting like they don't know what a weather balloon is. But sources including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, New York Democrats, Senator Christian Gillibrand, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who I think has no credibility, discusses the government's work with uf unidentified anomalist phenomena UAPs, the formal term for UFOs. I don't know why we have to have a politically correct phrase for UFOs. You and I always, you know, the X files and everything you grew up with UFOs. Now they're UAPs. But I guess it's just another way to move things about. Could be interesting, but several news organizations have suggested that this president could now again it's either you know, another long line of Oh, there's ghosts been spotted, the locknest, monsters, there there, whatever, whatever, great you know pseudoscience story you can find out there, or there's a legit thing that will happen and it'll change the course of human history in many ways. So that's issue one. Now. The second one i'll get to after the break. I want to get to one that actually is a true, absolute, one hundred percent science story that I think is worthy of of closer scrutiny. And what I do believe we at the at the one one moment in human history when the US is in the midst of horrific health care inability to deal an efficient way with healthcare. We're on the brink of so many amazing scientific discoveries. If you're studying cancer and you're looking at car te therapies, if you're looking at different genetic phenomenons that can be addressed and re engineered. At the same time, you know these horrific things about policy that are tying and gumming up the works. We're seeing phenomenal advances in human care and the ability to deal with things that here to four kills. I guess we'll just die of different things. The more we cure the things we typically die of and make cancer a living condition, the more wild just die of other things. You start curing heart disease, you start curing cancer, you die of probably all the self inflicted things like obesity and the other things we do to ourselves. Having said that, do you want to get to this story when we get to the other side of the break? Fascinating tech? All right? If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more and spiring. We have a lot to be grateful for. We all do. In spite of any challenges and setbacks and things. There's always an attitude of gratitude that can that can make we just have to be that way. We really should and for all of you out there with TDS look, I'll be praying for you, man. I know it's tough, and I do hope you get past your anger and your hatred because there's some great things happening in this nation and it's okay. It's okay to celebrate positive things. It's like, whenever there's good environmental news, all my friends that are global warming freaks, they almost can't stand it. It's like, hey, we found out they're more polar bears than we previously thought. Great news. They're like, oh no, now everyone's got to think everything's fine. Well, we found lots of more penguins. Penguins are doing pretty good. Ah, be happy. Be happy. When there's good news. You should take the victory lap. I mean, if you really wanted to spend it, you could say, hey, our policies are working. It's saving the polar bears. But they don't. The end is near. It's all bad. Be thankful, be very thankful. So this is a fascinating story about how we're moving the possibility of moving ahead in medical technology could have a significant opportunity to save more lives. And every day I see these and this is from Washington University, their education research researchers at Washington University School of Medicine and Saint Louis, along with collaborators at Northwestern University, have developed a non invasive approach to treat one of the most aggressive and deadly brain cancers. Their technology uses precisely engineered structures assembled from nanosized particles to deliver tumor fighting medicine to the brain through nose drops. Nose drops. The novel delivery method is less invasive than similar treatments in development and was shown in mice to effectively treat gleoblastoma by boosting the brain's immune response. So the short version of an overly long story is that gleoblastoma the type of tumor, and these are horrible tumors that killed Sendrick Kennedy, my best friend's mother died of this type, and it was remarkably fast from time of discovery to the untreatable couldn't do anything about it. It is almost always fatal, and your body's immune system never That's why immuno therapy doesn't typically work on these because your body doesn't see it as a problem. The body sees the tumor in the brain and goes okay. It's part of the brain won't attack it. So when you find something like this, and I'm astounded at where nanotechnology can go for good and bad. I mean, nanotechnology can be used for bad, but nanotech can be the next great frontier in treating everything. Imagine if in addition to carte therapies, when you can use nanotechnology to target all bad things, train your body's immune system to say, that's bad, we got to get rid of it. Researchers their technology uses this to go after the tumor. The findings were published earlier this month. The tumors form from brain cells called astrocites and are the most common kind of brain cancer, affecting three and one hundred thousand people. It progresses very quickly, almost always fatal. There is no curative treatment for the disease, partly because delivering medicines to the brain is extremely challenging. And having seen this personally my beloved at a horrific brain aneurysm, I was amazed at the tech that was used to save her life and see that through without even surgery, of what they were able to do. And she's a lottery winner, I mean, she really is in life to have it treated with a platinum coil and a remarkable procedure that didn't involve a surgical team but involved an interventionalists. These the type of tech that was used. And she's the five percent. You know, fifty percent of the people that have her kind of aneurysm die and of those of those that live, about ninety percent of them have long, long term issues, incapacities, brain problems. She had none of that. They were able to treat that and fully recovered, and it's just miraculous, a lot to be thankful for all the time. So watching that tech and watching the discussion about that tech, you think about that, and all of you probably know someone or know someone who knew someone who had a glioblastoma. And that's just one of a million different things that we're finding out there that might be pretty remarkable. Also, one other story I'm going to get to here is and I don't know that i'll get to all of it, but I find it remarkable because you can tell a lot about a leftist perspective from the way they write from a guilt centric way of looking at things. This is one about whether having a dog is bad for global warming. If you own a dog is bad for global warming. This guy is one of those people that has a dog but buys into all of the hyperbody about climate change. He says, I've been a vegetarian for over a decade because of my health, but because I disliked chicken or beef. It's a lifestyle choice I made. I wanted to reduce my impact on the planet. Yet twice a day I give my dog kibble into a bowl and set it down for my fifty pound rescue. Until recently, I hadn't devoted a huge amount of thought to that paradox, until the Associated Press said people miscalculate climate choices. One is owning a dog. The study, led by the folks at the PNAS and Nexus, examine how people perceive climate impact on various behaviors options like adopt a vegan diet, shift from fossil fuel to renewable public transport. The team found that participants generally overestimated a number of low impact actions like recycling and using efficient appliances, and vastly underestimated the impact of other personal decisions like owning a dog. The real objective of the study was to see whether certain types of climate information could help people commit to more effective actions. But hours after the article came out, its aim had been recast as something entirely different and attack people who had dogs. In other words, leftists saw this and attacked people up for owning dogs. How dare you're destroying the planet. Fellow researchers watched the reaction unfold. If I saw a headline that said climate scientist wants to take your dog away, I would get upset. They definitely don't. You can quote me on that. The study set out to understand how to shift behavior by communicating truths climate truths. Instead, it's media coverage revealing a troubling psychological trade off. When climate related messaging strikes a nerve, it may actually turn people off from working on shifting societal norms. In an instinct, this is again listen to the authors like trying to come to terms with this. In an instinct, I understand, I love my dog and my knee jerk reaction is to defend the very personal choice of sharing one's life with a dog. I also sympathize with redirecting the blame toward the biggest polluters like billionaires and fossil fuel companies, not my chihuahua or a dog, But it is irresponsible to shrug off any kind about the impact of our pets, something far more within our control than the overthrow of capitalism. See what he says, the overthrow of capitalism will solve climate change. Now the irony of that statement alone, when the Chinese are bringing online dozens of coal fout fuel plants and the Europeans are buying oil from Russia, acting like getting rid of capitalism is going to make it better. When we're the most efficient users of power on the planet. We may use more of it, but we're better at creating efficiencies. Is there a way to have a frank discussion about climate change without going after our dogs? I question how a particular climate behavior might fit into my life. I try to imagine how it looks in my vision of a sustainable future. It's why, for instance, I don't own the car and am dedicated to writing public transit even though it isn't convenient. I'm keen to be an early adopter of systems I believe in, but I struggle to imagine a future without companion animals. See how he's going through this horrific Sophie's choice, keep my dog or save the plant, and that's a horrific way to exist. Dog and cats are meat eaters, which is where the bulk of their carbon pallprint comes from. Twenty five to thirty percent of the environment impact of meat consumption in the US comes from dogs and cats. That's a year's worth of driving by thirteen point six million cars. For pets, they eat additional kibble over wet food. That protein may come from meat byproducts, which makes it worse. After of course they eat, they poop, At least for dogs, poop typically gets bagged in plastic and sent to the landfill. As it turns out, all the biodegradable poop bags they also release greenhouse gases in landfills, so you can see how they get trapped in this really circular, bad logic instead of seeing a bigger, more robust, and more positive picture about things. Owning a dog and a cat can enricher life, and there's a lot of dogs and cats that need to be saved. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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