"Micro-looting" and justifying degeneracy among the fauxlites | Hour 2

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So, in other words, he was a Democrat, is what they think? I go. He didn't even hit the ear. That was a piece of glass from the teleprompter. That just flew up and hit Trump's Here, Liam Donovan points out that the only thing more surreal than it would be assassin doubting the previous assassination attempt is people concocting theories whereby he himself is a patsy. His fellow his fellow left wing travelers on Blue Sky. They are now going to give him the treatment that he was giving the shooter in Butler, right, there's no way that that was in stage. He cried, I'm going to do it, and then he goes and tries to do it and he is foiled. And now his fellow travelers are going to say, there's no way that that wasn't staged. By the way, the United Healthcare social media manager apparently got herself fired today for posting a video expressing sadness over the failed attempt, saying that she was sad that it didn't work. The social media manager for United Healthcare, whose CEO was murdered by Luigi Mangioni, shot down in the street in cold blood, executed from behind, assassinated. And we're now getting all of this this signal boost on this guy, Hassan Piker, this communist, literal communist Twitter, who talks about murdering capitalists, murdering conservatives, murdering Trump, murdering Tim Scott, not Tim Scott, Rick Scott from Florida specifically, And he has not been deplatformed. In fact, he's being elevated by organizations like The New York Times by Ezra Kline on his podcast by the pod Bros. These were the former Baristas turned speech writers for Obama, and now they've got their pod Save America deal and they do a podcast and they've been glazing. Hassan Piker. He's been interviewing Democrat candidates for office, He's been appearing with them at their events. They are mainstreaming this communist Islamist apologist. He also, by the way, talks about shoplifting and how that's okay. Yeah, that was also it. We'll get to it first. Let me get over here. Mike has been waiting for a while. Hello Mike, Hello Pete, good afternoon. What's going on? Oh? Nothing, A couple of days. Slow slow news, slow news days, these days, hardly anything. I was listening to the show on and off yesterday but did not hear the part where apparently a Texter actually wrote in wanted to know where your friend Mike Daisley has been. So here I am, well welcome back vacation or something. No, No, I think I was, and I have. I've called various places. I've called Brett and uh Vince from time to time. I'm trying to get through your TJ. But he's he's doesn't want to talk to me. I don't think that's another story. Yeah, but have. You had any have you had any conversations with him? I called I called him his first night and I had a rogany conversation. Wishton Walton had a broken conversation. But after that, I've tried to call in. Well, he didn't put me on the air. One time I called in and I even gave my real name and he didn't put me on the air. So if I can't get. On, you know what, I don't feel so bad. Actually I was thinking about him just last night or I was on my way home, because he was referring to me, not me specifically, but people like me. Is a vile, disgusting, violent, uncivilized maniac. That is the average Democrat today. And so you consider yourself to be an average Democrat? Yeah, okay, So do you think that the majority of the Democrat Hang on, do you think that the majority of the Democrat voting base aligns with you and your sensibilities when it comes to things like violent rhetoric, the use of violence in order to achieve political ends, that sort of stuff. We'll see. That's the thing I think, based on what I heard yesterday of the show, there's a real difference between you and me in terms of what you consider to be violent rhetoric. All right now, as much as I didn't like the language that TJ was using last night, that I was belonged to a vile, disgusting, violent, and uncivilized maniacal party. You know, it's freedom of speech, is his opinion. It's not. It's not an incentive for listeners to his show to come crack me down and do something bad to me. Well, he didn't call. He wasn't talking about you specifically, was he? No? Right, so, but but but that I belonged to an organization that well, not just. That espouses things that yeah, that espouses and defends things that he that he categorizes in the way he did, like, for example, genital mutilation of children. I find I could put that one under the vile or maniacal kind of category. Well again, you talk about gentrif genifal mutilation of children as the only way to describe gender affirming. It's not affirming, it's denying. It's gender denying. It's not gender affirming, it's gender denying. So okay, Mike, So, Mike Kenneth, how many? How many sexes are there? How many? How many sexes are there? Can a boy become a girl? Can a girl become a boy? Is that possible? I'm not gonna. I don't want to get down the road of transgender issues. It's not a matter of no, no, it's not a transgender issue, Mike. It's simple truth. It's and if you cannot if you cannot acknowledge objective truth, then this is the problem. So this is the problem that's eating away your party. Like I remember old coach Joe White, you know, Joe Right, city councilman, school board member. He was and he told me towards the end of his career, he was like, I am the last of a dying breed. I am a white man, ill at large democrat, And he said, and he's too moderate on a lot of stuff for where the base was going where the Democrat Party was going, and this was twenty years ago. Do you think that do you think the Democrat Party now is a little bit more radical? Which is why I asked the question, which is simply an objective truth question, which is, you know, can a boy become a girl? This binary notion of gender issues is a broad, broad topic, all right, not the topic, it's this, it's it's this just does term in terms of the debate, in terms of the debate that we're trying to have now. And this is partectually true of talk radio that it's got to be it's got to be simple. Everything's got to be simple. It's got to be black, white, it's got there's no room for gray. It's got to be boy or a girl. Well, that's literally the yeah, Well in this case it is literally binary, unless you want to talk the Kleinfelter syndrome. For the point oh oh one percent of the people whatever in the extra chromosome. I'm talking about how many. Sexes are there, How many sexes are there, how many genders are there? Primarily there are two. Two sexes all. Across the board, not for every human being on this planet. Two sexes, right, so, but do you acknowledge that the truth is general? Do you ignowl? Like? So, for example, if I was born with an extra finger on my hand, right, I have an extra finger on my hand, would it be wrong to say that humans have ten fingers? No? Right? So if I say humans have ten fingers, that's correct. Right? If I say humans have ten fingers, but not all humans have ten fingers, so isn't that not true? Now? No, because the general because the. Vast majority of humans throughout the course of history had ten have ten fingers. That's the point. And so if you can't and your struggling to even accept this notion that there is male and female, something that up until about two minutes ago, everybody throughout human history acknowledged. And now who you choose to sleep with, right, that's a different question, to be sure. But when it comes to sex, simply pumping your body full of hormones and then undergoing the surgeries to make your body look like the opposite sex that does not make you that thing. What it does is to make you a human being that is different from other humans. Every human is different than others. See this is the problem, Mike, See this is the problem Mike, this. Is the problem. The problem is when I call up, No. This is the problem. It's not a rabbit hole. It's not a rabbit hole. No, it's not. It's simply trying. All I illustrating, my all I'm illustrating to you is the difficulty that you have answering this question. Now, you would have had no difficulty answering that question, say, twenty years ago. But I suspect that you. Know that there are a lot of people, you know, where this conversation or this issue has has drifted in your party. We knew twenty years ago, all right, and yet we want there's certain people that want to sort of not acknowledge that anything has changed at all. There hasn't been an additional sex. My point in all of this peak is going back to yesterday. It kind of reminds me of this peak. It reminds me one of your favorite phrases on this show. And I listened to it. Hey, you know, I listen. I enjoy the show. No, don't always agree with it, but you know, the issue is never the issue, right, But. What's the second part of that? Yeah, the issue is always how do we find a way? No, that's not the second part. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. I know, I know, I know the phrase. I've heard you say it a ton of time. Now apply it to the gender astly. Honestly, when it comes to the pre counter show, more often than not, the issue is how to blame the Democrats. I can't help it if they are to blame for advancing the revolution. That's what your party is doing. We're vile, I'm patriotic. We hate America. That's what the data shows. The data shows you guys don't like the country if your guys not running it. That's what this That's what all the polling shows, Mike. That's not me making that up and ascribing it to you. That's what you guys say when pollsters ask you, you don't like America just sort of as a baseline, and then when a Republican is in the White House, then you really don't hate America. The conservative and Republican numbers are steady. They're in like the eighty five percent range. You guys are like down into midpoint and below. So like, that's not me making that up. It's okay. I wish more Democrats would be full blown patriots, you know, like we're in the Star, the Stars and Stripes and going to the July fourth cookouts and the parades and loving America and expressing that love for America. But like today it doesn't seem like you guys are doing that so. Much patriotic enough to want to make America better. Yes, we are patriotic in that regard, and in order to make it better, we've got to look at its false. There you go, that's critical theory. You've just expressed critical theory. This is my and that's part of my point. The issue is never the issue. It's always the revolution. It's through critiquing. It's through criticism, it's through tearing down demoralization. That's what you're engaged in. Do you not see that's the way. That's the way. That's the way. Clearly you take it, just as you take pointing out that Donald Trump looks in every way to be an authoritarian wanna be strong men man is somehow inciting people to vines. And it's not pete, No, you take it that way. You want to say it that way, because again, the issue is never an issue. It's how to blame democrats. It's the democrats. That are saying that very thing all the time, whipping up a frenzy that he's a that he's the next Hitler. That you had protesters out front of the Correspondence dinner with signs that said death to tyrants. Well, how am I supposed to take that, mike, that you're calling for the you're calling for the murder of the president. Those aren't Those aren't Republicans out there all right? So when I hear the Democrats just need to be eliminated, how am I supposed to take that? Oh, that's not the same. I've never said democrats need to be eliminated? Who said that? Okay, well, then kindly don't ascribe to me some argument I've never made. I would appreciate that. But you allow calls on the air all the time to say that just those things. They have never I have never had a call or say Democrats need to be eliminated. I have look. I I police this very closely. I have for years, because I recognize the power of the airwaves that a lot of podcasters nowadays do not. They don't understand the responsibilities that broadcasters have, So I police that very carefully. I've never had anybody that I can recall ever say anything like that ever, and if anybody ever does, I would shut it down because it is dangerous talk. I got it round. I'm way late, way late. You know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. 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Yeah, so we got about thirty seconds now before the newscast because I went way too late, way too long with Mike, but I felt it was important. Mike did text in saying thanks. He enjoyed the conversation, as do I. That's the old axiom, you know, never get into a political argument with a political science major, because at some point you realize they kind of enjoy it. So that's yes, I do enjoy it. And to quote Dennis Prager, I do not seek agreement. I seek clarity. And I feel like I got clarity in the line of questioning that I gave to Mike. The silence there spoke volumes. There are a lot of people that feel like they know the answer, but they can't say the answer, so they try to find a way to not answer but sound like they're answering. It's just a question about what. Is true and what is not, and if people cannot agree on an objective true thing, we have problems, and look around, we have problems. I know people always on the text line, they always complain why in the email, like why do you let Mike Daisley on the show, why do you let Mike on the show or anybody that argues with me? And I always say the same thing, like, I want to hear the arguments, right, and I want you to hear these arguments. So if you hear them out in the wild, when you're going about your day at the family cookout or something, then you have heard these arguments, and hopefully in hearing my response to those arguments, you may remember some of those responses and you can utilize them. That's one of the reasons. But with Mike in this particular case, and here's a text from Chris, and this gets to the heart of it, and this is where I was trying to lead Mike. Chris says, Mike needs to realize that today's Democrat Party is no longer the party of JFK and they do not care about black people as much as he may think they do. Just ask Ms. Carla Cunningham and mister Nasifh Maje and Chris, if I recall correctly, is a black person. So that's his that's his take on this. My point in bringing up Joe White was Democrats are and you've heard me say this before. The Democrat Party is unable to defeat their own radicals within their ranks because everything morals truth is relative. This is a postmodernist way of looking at things, and everything goes through this prism of oppressor and oppressed. That makes you a bad person. If you get labeled as a presser, now you're bad, right. That's why with another attempted assassination of Donald Trump, and they're saying it was all staged. That's why they say it was staged with Butler Pennsylvania. Why because that then puts Trump into the victim category, and that means he's good, and that can't be the case, so it had to have been staged. This is why I asked Mike about can a man have a baby? Right? That is objectively impossible. Men cannot have babies, Okay, But to the postmodernist view, that's relative. The concept, the physiological biological concept of male and female, that's relative. Well, and that's why I kept saying, it's not really a question about transgender people or the issue, it's about objective truth. And because he is inside the party like, he can't say that a thing is objectively one or another, that a thing is objectively true. This is why I say that Democrat Party has a real problem with the rise of this radicalism because they have no inherent inoculation to this stuff. Because if everything is just I'm an oppressed victim, then well then you're good, you are correct. That's that's your truth. I can't question that because it's all relative. There is no objective truth. See. So that's Chris got it. David says, I think this idiocracy has to be shut down forever. You're abuse to do these gender denying surgeries. After twenty years they said, hey, this is no good because of you know everything, twenty years of data. Many people decided that they should and have made decisions as children that affect them for the rest of their lives. Yeah, and we've talked about like what two weeks ago, three weeks ago, the largest study came out of Finland and it showed that actually, when you go through the gender denying procedures and you get the hormones and all that stuff, you actually end up with worse mental health outcomes. And that's the longest longitudal study with everybody in Finland that has gone through these procedures. So like the science and data that we all had to worship during COVID, Right, that's what it shows. And yeah, and the polling on the patriotism that's been the case for many years. Now, and I don't like it. I don't like it. I want both parties to be for America, to love the country, love America. But even then, when I asked Mike about it, and what did he say? I wanted to be better because we've got to go back and amid all the flaws. And all the right see. And that's like, that's immediately immediately where this Hegalian philosophy takes you, right, the critical studies, critical theory, this is where it takes you immediately back to pick apart Western civilization in order to demoralize and destroy it. And some people realize that for what it is, and some people do not. They've just been trained enough in it to feel bad about the country they live in, about the history, about all of the bad things that America did, and then ignore any good things that America is doing or has done. And that is a demoralization op and it comes from the Soviet Union, That's where it came from. Uh Seth, says Pete. They just found a third gender in Mike's backyard. That's that's a big if true. Mike is trying to defend lefty loons unapologetically, but their views are indefensible. Yeah, and so this is the this is the underlying problem. This is why you're seeing. I'd also forgotten there was actually this is now the fifth. This was the fifth attempt on Donald Trump's life. I had forgotten. Remember when he was campaigning back in twenty fifteen, some lunatic rushed the stage, tried to get the gun from the Secret Service agent and then was tackled. Remember that. So that was the first. Then you had you know, you had Butler, you had mar A Lago, you had the guy outside of mar A Lago that jumped the walls and was shot dead. Then and I have this. So that's five. They have a real problem trying trying to dismiss any of their you know, responsibility in elevating and hyping up these accusations and making them so beyond the realm of even hyperbole that, like everybody understands, there are crazy people out there. That's why I pushed back hard when he said, oh, you say these things like eliminate it. I've never said that, never said that. I recognize the responsibility I have as a broadcaster that people are listening. Some of them may be unstable. I never want to be somebody that plays any role whatsoever in convincing some unstable lunatic to go out and hurt somebody. That's not the point of this. I try to argue about the ideas, and I can't help it. If the Democrat Party is embracing crazy ideas and want to govern and implement those crazy ideas. I can't. I'm not going to ignore that. Jonathan Turley, writing at The Hill on the recent New York Times podcast exploring the justifications for crimes ranging from theft to murder. The podcast with radical Hassan Piker, The New York Times Opinion culture editor Not Spiegelman, and New Yorker writer Gia Tolentino captured the moral relatives of relativism that has taken hold of the left in American society. Reading the manifesto of UH, this latest shooter shows the ultimate expression of a society where rage has replaced morality and decency. Quote it is so hard to live ethically in an unethical society. End quote that lament heard this week from New York Times opinion Culture editor not just Spiegelman, could well be the Democratic Party's epitaph. Spiegelman was interviewing two left wing influencers about how everything from shoplifting to murder may be excusable today in light of the unfairness they see in society. Note the lens oppressor oppressed even if you're not oppressed, if you just feel like you're oppressed, you just want to identify as a press like I'm oppressed because I can't have that Gucci handbag, so I'm. A steal it. The podcast, a product of the nation's newspaper of Record, reveled in the moral relativism that has taken over the American left. It featured the ravings of the anti Semitic Marxist streamer Hassan Piker, who calmly explained how the murder of United Healthcare executive Brian Thompson was perfectly understandable if you know your Marxism. Yeah, all right. So here was Hassan Piker on the New York Times podcast Okay, justifying the cold blooded murder of the CEO of United Healthcare Brian Thompson. Engels wrote about the concept of social murder and Brian Thompson, as the United Healthcare CEO was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder, the systematized forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for profit, paywalled system of healthcare in this country, and the consequences of that are tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths. And that was a. Fascinating story for me because America's very draconian about crime and punishment. They're very black and white on this issue. And yet because of the pervasive pain that the private health care system had created for the average American, I saw so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place. Okay, So, again, this is a Marxist, is Lamist, apologist revolutionary, quoting Marxist revolutionary Friedrich Engels, who had called capitalism social murder. So if capitalists or social murderers, why not kill them? Right? The logic is liberating and lethal for some on the left looking for a license for violence. Mind you. Jonathan Turley writes this same newspaper had once condemned and defectively banned a US senator for writing an op ed advocating the use of the military to quell violent protests during the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful rioting after George Floyd's death, The New York Times even forced out its own opinion editor for having the temerity to publish such an opinion. That was Tom Cotton, Tom Cotton, Remember that. Then? Later in the podcast, New Yorker writer Gia Tolentino talked about her own experience with micro looting. As she called it micro looting in other words, stealing theft, but just a little bit. She said, I think that stealing from a big box store isn't significant as a moral wrong. She detailed her own past thefts and then added I didn't feel bad about it at all, in part because the store was a corporation. Right. See, this is how you end up in a failed society. This is what happens when everything is relative. You get to take the situation, apply your own ethical code, and that's good enough. Okay, here's the problem. When everybody lives like that. Now you no longer have a high trust society. The bizarre exchange highlighted the moral chasm that is opening its maw on today's political left. Turlie writes in my book Rage and the Republic, I write about how rage helps people excuse any offense or attack. It dismisses the humanity of others and provides a license to hate completely and without reservation. It's not really murder or theft if there are no real humans on the other side, Is it again? When this is the Schmidtian Karl Schmidt This whole friend enemy distinction. If you're a friend, oh, then everything you do is fine your enemy. Anything I do against you is fine friend enemy. That's how you look at the world. Other columnists have defended such property crimes. Over the Washington Post, Mara Judkis ran a column mocking shoplifting stories as the moral panic of a nation built on stolen land. It is reminiscent of those who excused rioting in past summers as quote an expression of power, and demanded that the media refer to looters as protesters. Former New York Times writer and now Howard University journalist and professor Nicole Hannah Jones remember her. She went so far as to call on journalists not to cover shoplifting crimes. At its core, turly rights. This is a denial of transcendent values and rights. It is a decoupling of our society from a grounding in moral or universal truths. It is a trend that extends not only to attack on individuals, but also to attax on our constitutional system. There is a growing denial of our founding based on Enlightenment principles of natural rights, natural rights which come not from government but from God. They are natural to you. Some people seem to have forgotten this. He says. The left has this problem. They have no immunity, natural immunity to this cancer that is inside of their party. And by the way, that's not to say that there aren't people on the right that are proceeding down similar paths. However, right now it is quite obvious that this is where the problem is. And on the right there is a sense of immunity inherent in the ideology which is rooted in natural rights. You do not have the right to go kill somebody because they disagree with you, or they have a job that you don't like. Right, That's what Piker and this other woman like. That's what they are doing. They are rationalizing all of these things through this relativistic lens to justify what power because that's all Marxism is about. It's just about. Power, the power dynamic, oppress or oppressed, Right, That's all this is. That's why I say, as Mike referenced earlier in the hour, that the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. For example, before October seventh, when Hamas attacked Israelis, they were getting ready to come back into the kids were getting ready to come back into class. They were planning some big climate change demonstrations and stuff. Then October seventh happens and Israel responds, and all of the climate change protesters donned Kathia's and then took to the streets for Hamas. How does that happen? Right? Because the issue is in the issue, they're just. Using this And if you have trained up people, and this kind of ties into the last hour, the first hour of the show, which is if you have trained up people since childhood to this belief that they should become activists, and that is what a lot of K twelve schools are teaching kids to become activists. I've seen enough videos over the years now where teachers are you know, making having the kids do poster boards and do these chants and march around their classrooms at like very young ages, right to teach these kids, fill their young skulls of mush with the idea that that's sort of the highest principled thing that you can do for the society to right the wrongs, to be an ally, it's to come out and take these positions, march with us in the streets. We have example after example of teachers doing this sort of thing. Not all teachers, hashtag, not all teachers. But that's where this stuff is coming from, the long march through the institutions. The graham Sheean idea. Antonio Grahams she talked about marching through the institutions. It would take a while, but you eventually control media, art, film, and the school, and then you control the culture, and then you can breed little revolutionaries from a very young age, which is, by the way, what every single communist revolution has done. They always use the kids, always, this is a standard playbook. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.