Melting down over ICE in East Charlotte (05-14-2025--Hour3)

What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily show prep with all of the links, become a patron, go to dpeakclendershow dot com, make sure you hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for your support. I'm going to move on from the HOA stuff from the previous hour, but I want to read an email that I got regarding the last hour's topic about the hoas and the state legislation. This is from Ken, who says, like you, my home was part of a new development still under developer control, which meant he was also the HOA until it turned over. I also joined a committee in this case the rules committee, with the intent to make sure they didn't get ridiculous with enforcement, and eventually became HOA president. The two biggest issues I did delt with was over enthusiastic enforcement and failure to ensure we were following our own rules. We had a very good management company, but I realized that every HOA has different CCR requirements, and they rarely fully understood ours, the management company, So I became an expert on our CCRs and North Carolina General Statue Chapter forty seven F. I stepped down from the HOA, which is a show in and of itself, and have become the go to guy in the neighborhood when neighbors receive a notice of violation. To this day, the HOA fails to follow the CCR requirements for this process and thus nullify any possible legal action. In other words, they need to go to their attorney to take any real action, and dare told they cannot because they didn't follow their own and are told there and are told they cannot take action because they did not follow their own rules. So here's what I tell everybody. Sign up for or legal insurance. It'll cost you twenty to thirty dollars a month, and it'll provide ten to twenty hours of free representation annually, which is typically more than anybody will ever need. I have had a couple of folks follow my advice and the problem goes away after a letter from their new legal insurance attorney. So that's something if you've got an hoa breathing down your neck. That is that's a good piece of advice. Thanks, Ken, appreciate it. Alrighty, so you've probably heard the news that occurred the other day near a Charlotte school, and this is very traumatic for everybody that was within I think a four mile radius of the incident. A person was picked up by ice and well, yeah, that's well, that was it. They were taken up. My eyes and this is a very traumatic experience. Now, the first reports were that it happened at the school, and then it kind of moved off the property a little bit. It was like, oh, well, it was right next to the school, and then it's the next report I saw was well, it's actually like down the road a bit. It was yeah, and it's like I could see it. So it's like the Palin, like I could see Russia from my backyard or something. I can see that this traffic stop occurred way down the road over there on Albemarle Road. And if you know anything about Albemarle Road in East Charlotte, an ice operation occurring there is really not like that should not be terribly surprising. And I say that as someone who lived in East Charlotte. I lived in East Charlotte for two thousand and five through two thousand and nine or ten, so I lived there four or five years. I know eat Charlotte pretty well. And yeah, so three parents. According to the Charlotte Observer, three parents of students at a Charlotte Magnet school said Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained a father, a Charlotte father, Charlotte dad, a Charlotte man at the school's drop offline on Monday, sparking concern for families. So again this is saying it was like he's waiting to drop the kids off at the school. He was at the school's drop offline. But the school is down the side road and he was stopped in the turn lane up on Albemarle Road. So I don't know if he was like did the drop off line stretch all the way onto Albemarle Road. Maybe it did. I don't know. But see, this is one of the things that if you are ICE and you are going out and trying to find people to apprehend and then deport back to their home countries, you have to find them where they are, and you it's any law enforcement agent, it becomes very easy to find somebody when you have like a known address for them, or you know their routine, right if you monitor their home address, you see, okay that you leave the house every day because you know, you generally don't want to do it at their house, because if you do it at the house, then I'm thinking, like they could barricade themselves inside, they could shoot at you from the inside, that kind of thing, so and they could hide. They know their house better than you do. So if you pick them up as they're on their way someplace, it's a traffic stop, and then you swarm around them and you throw them into your car and take them to the facility. One parent shared video of what appeared to be federal agents, one of whom was wearing a mask. Yes, so I said this a couple of weeks back. I actually saw one of these operations occur about thirty feet in front of me, right outside of my house, standing there talking to my neighbors on the street corner. And maybe we were saying a little doo wop. I'm just kidding, but we were standing on the corner. We were chatting about, you know, the best type of fertilizer and aeration processes as we tend to do. And the next thing, we saw all these vehicles that we had seen in the neighborhood for the previous few days. We had seen them parked around the neighborhood, and there was all this chatter on Facebook, and sure enough, a car comes up the road and they surround the car. The guy tries to go around them, he runs up over the curb, smashes into a police car. Undercover ice agent. They all jump out. The guy jumps out, he runs, They chase him down and they catch him and they bring him and they put him in their car and they take him away. And some of the agents had their had face coverings. I think maybe all of them did. They were about I don't know four or five of them. And the reason why they do that, which is not mentioned than any of these stories as to why they're wearing face coverings, They wear the face coverings because they are not wanting to be identified, because they are undercover. And when they get their suspect apprehended, if there is anybody around them that's now video taping the encounter, they then take that video and they post it into social media groups and pages that use the videos to identify ICE vehicles and ICE personnel. And why do they do that, Well, not just simply to dox them, maybe threaten them, harass them, but also to avoid apprehension. So this isn't in any of the stories, by the way, that I have seen in any of this coverage about the Charlotte dad that got picked up by ICE while dropping the kid off at school, Like, this is what this story is becoming. They're trying to make this into the big narrative, like the Maryland man who just happened to also be a human trafficker but whatever, or the other guy they're trying to spring loose, who just happens to be a convicted rapist but whatever. Don't know anything about this person that they picked up. But that's why they disguise themselves. They are what's called in the biz undercover. I don't know if you're aware of this term or not, but the word it's a term that means like you're not dressed in the uniform, which I guess the proponents of open borders want all of the ICE teams to be wearing all of the you know, the identification the big you know, police and ICE federal agent. They want all of that on their bodies, so this way they can avoid detection. Right, that's why you would want that. There's this line I see in or this this argument that is sort of made, which is like, oh, it's so scary because we don't know who these people are. They could be anybody, right except that they've got flashing lights on their vehicles, right, and then when they jump out, they identify themselves as they as they take you into custody. So the reason why they want the IDs to be emblazoned on every vehicle and on every vest and back and chest is so this way they can avoid apprehension. So it's not exactly a good faith argument, shall we say. ICE has not provided details of what happened, but the PTA has weighed in, the CMS Board of Education has weighed in, the state lawmaker has weighed in. Everybody's weighing in about how awful and traumatic this thing has been. This event, so I may have a little bit of a different take on it. Stick around all right, So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. 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Mail orders are accepted to get all the details that createavideo dot com. I got a couple messages. Tim says the ICE agents should simply tell people they are wearing masks to avoid COVID. Don't the left still believe people should mask up to protect from COVID. After all, that's a fair point, tim they're doing it for your safety, all in this together, flattening the curve. Stan says, if, as the Democrats claim, undocumented persons here are perfectly fine and legal, then why does anybody living here still have or need to have a passport to enter or leave the country. Well that, yeah, that's if you don't want to go, you know, across the river Hire Coyote, all of that. I think it's just your choice, you know, just depending on how you wish to travel to and from America, that determines what documentation you need. So all righty, let's get to the reaction to the ICE apprehension of and assume illegal alien in East Charlotte on Monday. In a message to families Monday evening, the principle of Charlotte East Language Academy or SELA CELA, the principal, Sarah Lang, confirmed that ICE quote activity occurred near our school's drop offline earlier today. See so the original story where the Charlotte Observer says that it occurred at the school's drop offline. The principle like two sentences later they report that the principal says it occurred near our schools drop off line. So it's so now I'm like, Okay, was this a parent dropping off the kid at the school or was this just somebody on Albemarle Road that got stopped. Ice again did not provide details. The school's PTA issued a statement on Instagram, quote, we urge our school board to take a clear public stance regarding ice and form. Okay, what exactly do you think that the school board's authority is in this circumstance? PTA school boards hold the power and the responsibility to create and uphold policies that protect our children and ensure schools remain safe, supportive spaces for every student. Okay, yeah, that that the school. The school was not in jeopardy. People were not made unsafe. This occurred on another road nearby. So what you want is a virtue signal, That's what I think, that's what the PTA is demanding. One parent saw the ICE agents when she drove her fifth grader for tutoring to the school. They had no labels on the cars or anything where they could be identified, and they were holding three people in the car. She saw a young lady coming closer to the car and crying seeing I saw the same thing when this happened, and in front of me they picked somebody up. And then the next thing, another vehicle shows up. A woman jumps out of that vehicle and starts videotaping and chasing the ICE agents all around as they're searching for what I could only assume to be was her husband. They did not arrest her, even though she was like yelling at them and all up in their faces and stuff. But she's got there, she's got the video camera going, she's recording their license plates, she's recording their faces. This mother, quoted in The Observer, says she fears that racial profiling is happening in the country. Okay, well, that's not happening. They're targeting people based on information that they have about who is in the country illegally, and they have names of people generally pulled from police intake reports. Right, these are the ones that they've been targeting. First, they have lists of people. They're not driving around looking for Hispanic people. But it's interesting that that's where your mind went when you thought, oh, that's an ICE agent who is arresting this Hispanic person, so therefore it's a racial thing. I like my mind doesn't go there, but apparently this mother's mind goes there, and she is troubled that unidentified agents are stopping people. Again, this is because they are undercover, but she said it could be a random vigilante as far as anybody knows, that has flashing lights and a whole bunch of cars that surround the vehicle so it can't move, and then they jump out of the vehicle, identify themselves as ice, and then take the person into custody and then take them to a processing sent So yeah, okay, so your anxiety is not reality. That's what I would tell this woman. Your anxiety about what you witnessed and what your fears are and all of this. That doesn't make it true. And I know that this is not something that we tell people nowadays, But just because you perceive something and feel a certain way, it doesn't mean that it's true, and it doesn't mean that you are right. My mom always used to say feelings are neither right nor wrong, but actions are. Okay, So I'm just letting you know that this is just anxiety I think that you're experiencing, or maybe it's virtue signally. Then there's a quote from a man whose wife is the PTA President, and he said, we do think that it's appalling that parents taking their American citizen children to school would have to go through a traumatic event like this. There has to be a better way of doing that, and I'm glad that he said that. I'm glad he said there has to be a better way because there is. There actually is a better way to do this to reduce the trauma that you may experience, or your wife experienced, or whatever. Self deport That's the way you avoid this is that if you are in the country illegally, then you need to start making arrangements to go back to your home country. That's the way you avoid this. The personal responsibility of the people that are here illegally. You're welcome. I'm a giver. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Call or text eight two eight, three six seven seventy sixty eight or check out all there is to offer at Cabins Ofashville dot com and make memories that'll last a lifetime. So Yes, self deportation is the way to avoid the kind of life scarring trauma that these East Charlotte adults are claiming that they have suffered by witnessing the apprehension of somebody on the street. It was not violent, no guns were pulled or fired or anything like that. It was just looked like a traffic stop and they put somebody in the back of a car. And that is the trauma that now the Charlotte Mecklenburg School Board is being called upon to do something about, not really sure what, but to put out a statement, to say something, to stand with the children or whatever, because it happened down the block from a school where the parents were sitting in line to pick up the kids or drop them off. In a statement, State Representative Jordan Lopez, a Democrat from Mecklenburg, said that ice actions on or near school property jeopardize student safety and well being. So what exactly then, so we were not allowed to like what's the zone? Like, is there a one mile zone around a school, like a sanctuary kind of a space around around every school, and so no ice activity is permitted. So like, I'm here in the country illegally, I'm being pursued by ice. I could just run onto a school property and then be like Ali, Ali Oxen free. You can't get me. I'm just gonna stay here at the school. Oh, we could have ten cities. We could have ten cities on school properties. How about that, right, Well, just you know, requisition the soccer fields or the kickball field and we'll just you know, set up housing and such there. So this way everybody can avoid the consequences of their actions. The PTA is calling for the school board to take action. Not exactly sure what action they are demanding, but I do have a statement that the school board put out. Although the incident did not take place on school property, we understand that it was witnessed by those on SILA or Charlotte East Language Academy. That was witnessed by people on school property. Oh. I just had another idea. How about you know, like they hang they erect the fencing around construction zones and then they hang the black tarps and stuff on the fence so you can't see in, you know, we could do that around every school. Or walls. We could build walls. We finally finally found some walls that the left might actually want built walls around the schools, so this way you won't see any kind of ice activity that may end up in the visual line of sight of anybody. On school property. How about that. I'm telling you, like, these ideas just come to me. People. The people ask me like, where do you come up with these brilliant ideas? And I don't. They just they just come to me. And no, I'm not trademarking it. You're free to use these ideas. Charlotte Mecklinburg Schools. We recognize. The statement from the Charlotte Mecklinberg Board of Education says, we recognize that this is unsettling for our school community, and therefore the district is providing additional counseling support at the school for both students and staff. Well what about the parents. Why are you not providing counseling for the parents? From the quotes I've read in the media, I feel like the parents needed more than anybody else. Our commitment to the well being of every student remains unwavering, and we are dedicated to serving all students so that they can receive the best education possible for a promising future. That's what'sn't a joke, that's what okay? Never mind, To date, federal immigration agents have not attempted enforcement on cms property. So right, okay, so right? It did not happen on CMS property. They then say that the board reiterates the legal requirements and processes in place to protect all students, including the landmark Supreme Court decision plilor VDO, And then they give a couple of bullet points. Number one, all students are entitled to free public education, regardless of immigration status. Number two, Federal agents are not permitted in our schools unless they have a court order or a warrant issued and signed by a judge. Schools are instructed that any presentation of said orders must be presented to the Office of General Counsel for CMS for verification in that any order or warrant is legally sufficient, authentic, complete, and signed by a judge prior to taking any action. And so they're doing the same thing that Gary not my fault McFadden does as sheriff. Right, it's got to be signed by a judge, because the ICE warrants are administrative warrants. So that's what they're saying, Like, you can come into the school, but only if it is for like somebody who's wanted for a criminal charge. And then finally, unless otherwise required by federal law, we do not divulge the legal status or any personal identifiable information regarding our students. I don't know if this is the kind of statement that people were clamoring for the board to issue, when they were like, you need to say something, you need to do something. I don't know if this is going to address those concerns, if this is sufficient. But we have some other statements that individual members of the school board made. I'll tell you what those were in a second. First, let me go over to Walt. Hello, Walt, Welcome to the program. Hey Pete, Hey, I was just wondering about your thoughts. You know, when we had the emancipation talklem, the Democrats did everything under the sun to try to put those folks back in a box, and so now they're doing everything they can to try to keep them here, give them amnesty, citizenship for the vote, and this and that. So what is what is going on? What's what's your thoughts about that? The the cheap labor end of it. Well, yeah, so I think there's there are a couple of things. Number one, like the argument that oh, these are people that do the jobs that Americans won't do, and who's going to mow your yards and clean your toilets basically, and I find that to be a line of argument that is not persuasive for humanitarian reasons. Actually, because like you said, these are people that are doing those jobs because they are here illegally, they are they're sort of doomed to be in those professions, even if they don't want to be in those professions. And I don't find it to be persuasive to say we have to keep people coming into the country being victimized en rout while they get here to then work for below minimum wage. So that's the first argument, and I agree with you on that, it's not a persuasive argument. Now, the other part of it is packing people into areas so as to affect the census count I think that's the real play. By driving up the census counts, you then protect these states when it comes to the apportionment of congressional seats in the US House. Because if these if California, New York, they've both lost population. People are voting with their feet, they are leaving these states, and in order to stem that tide, if you can pack in a bunch of people that you can count for the census but then don't actually vote, well, now you get to keep congressional seats and you get to maintain your power. I think the number was somewhere around twenty five seats or so that would have gone for Republicans, not Democrats, had the census only counted you citizens. So I think that's really the larger play. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah. Yeah, the Republicans would have a much larger majority right now in the US House, but for the counting of illegal aliens in our US census. Yeah. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. I appreciate it. Yes, sir, all right, Walt, I appreciate the call, Buddy, good to talk with you. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why. Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information. 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So local democrats now make this illegal alien criminal who was arrested about two miles away from a school, a martyr, and local media joins the courus. This will definitely be a real winner next election time. Big slow clap for you to that point. Here a new poll from Signal found that Americans still overwhelmingly want to deport illegal aliens back to their nation of origin. It is sixty three and a half percent support, thirty one percent to pose, and six percent still aren't sure. Steve, Welcome to the show. Hey Steve, Hey Pete, how you doing, buddy? Hey? I am all right, how are you? Hey? I'm rocking on, man. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of something here from Judicial Watch. You may want to, you know, keep an eye on them with this. But they've got a case before the Supreme Court right now to eliminate race based congressional districts, and it's moved up from there because they were supported in their case in Louisiana with a two to one win, So it's up before the Supreme Court right now to eliminate that nonsense. So this has been that's well. North Carolina has been ensnared in the various rulings which have been in conflict with each other for years, basically because when Democrats would draw maps and they were allowed to then use race, and then Republicans come in and then it's like no, no, no, you can't use race, and it s all right, fine, we'll just use party affiliation, like yeah, but that's just the same. It's almost the same thing because ninety plus percent of black voters are registered as Democrats, not Republicans, so it's a surrogate, it's a proxy data point. So then they got they got dinged for that. So it's like the Supreme Court has not been able to craft a coherent message, in my opinion, on what is and isn't allowed. So that's interesting if Judicial Watch is trying to is trying to get some clarity on it. Oh, these guys are top of the top, man. I just don't understand why why the doj ain't calling on him for all the incriminating evidence they have against hundreds of people that's possible, Yeah, why they aren't using them but they've got all the info. Man. But I think this is exciting because then maybe I can get rid of Alma Adams, who was definitely put in a district a voter in and that would chickle me silly. Yeah, no, I got you, Steve. I appreciate the call. Good to hear from you. Yeah, that was I mean, it's not as gerrymandered as they used to be when Democrats drew the maps, but anyway, the Trela Mecklelberg School board members Melissa Easily and Liz Monterey Duval both put out statements regarding this ICE arrest. Liz Monterey, Latina, member of the board said, the board has explored every policy option available to us, but time and again we've hit a legal wall. We do not have the authority to override state or federal law, no matter how deeply we oppose it. And that is true. She is exactly correct, and Melissa Easily wrote a very length Facebook posts about it, talking about schools as safe places and such sanctuaries. She wants sanctuary schools, but she says CMS has guidance in place for how schools should respond to ICE activity, but that guidance stops at the school property line. The law limits what we can do beyond the property line, and that's the problem, she says. That's the problem is that our jurisdiction is an infinite Yeah. I have another idea though, here's another idea. Just imagine that any ICE deportation action is actually picking up some of those South Africans, the Africaners, some of those guys that have just been admitted into the country. Just imagine that they're the ones being deported, and I feel like a lot of Democrats will be at ease with that. Okay, problem solved, all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without yours and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.