Media & Democrats seek to deflect the leftist radicalism of assassin (09-12-2025--Hour2)

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But let me read this one from good Wahoo, who says, what the killer fails to understand is that they have just ensured that Charlie Kirk's voice of reason and truth, given in a non confrontational manner, will now be explored by millions in the US and around the world that did not know who he was and what his message was. They will now begin to find out, and the world will be much better for it. In death, Charlie has achieved his goals much faster than if he were alive. Let me see here this is hang on a second from Russ who says a quote from a friend the left has these people thinking that they're the hero in a righteous revenge story. They are not John Wick. They're the Russian punk protected their whole life, who would attack a man in his home and kill his dog because they think they are entitled to his car. No appreciation for what it cost the man to have those things, what they mean to him, and no concept of the monster that lies within a man who is trying to be good but gets pushed too far. You mentioned how many of these awful assassination celebrations were coming from the quote helping professions. I also noticed quite a few were from gatekeepers, people who make decisions about the level of medical care you receive, hiring and firing, etc. Also, all their justifications are based on lies about Charlie Kirk history and current US and world events. From the text line. Well, that's very nice, David, thank you, he says, I've been listening to BT for decades. Pete is such a blessing and in my opinion, the most insightful and educated. Thanks for standing up to all evil. We need more like you in this world. Thank you, David. I appreciate it. Let me go back to this page of the text feed, and then this page so I can pull up these texts. This is from anonymous. The left emboldens each other so they feel untouchable. That's an astute point. They Yeah, it's like you sit around in your echo chamber and you just keep egging each other on and egging each other on. And when you are, you know, a wash in the cultural media institutions that support your viewpoints on everything, it's very easy then to think that you are untouchable, that you are the majority, and that how could we have lost the election? It must be fascism. Now calling your political opponents, your fellow Americans fascists, and you know, with a steady drum beat for the last decade and a half, you cannot be surprised when people believe you. Here is here's a clip I don't even know how this is like Nate Burlison. When I first saw this guy, I was like, wasn't he a football player? And yes he was. And so now he's on the morning show CBS Mornings with Gail King and whatever. Like I guess he was like CBS's response to Michael Strahan, like, hey, let's get you know, let's get a football player in here, and he'll be just like Michael Strahan. I guess that was the play. But this dude should not be talking about politics because he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about here. He was yesterday morning with Kevin McCarthy, the former Speaker of the House, a Republican. And this is a common refrain that I am hearing from the legacy media outlets that are trying to deflect away from the obvious political motivations that are at the heart of this assassination. They don't want to confront any of the rhetoric that they have emboldened, that they have actually uttered themselves, that they have promote, that they have allowed Democrats to come on the air and say without any kind of pushback, they believe this stuff, but they recognize, ooh, this might be a little too close to home for us people might people might blame us for Dare I call it stochastic terrorism. That was the term you guys came up with when you wanted to pin every kind of crime that was committed by somebody even remotely tangentially related to the GOP or Donald Trump. You came up with this term in order to say, well, you know, Donald Trump says this, and then you know, seven orders away or seven leve layers away, or or one hundred layers away. There's a guy who saw Trump's speech four years ago and he did something bad, so therefore he was motivated by Donald Trump. And even if there's no direct correlation or causation or any kind of affiliation or relationship, you're going to say something on the order of, uh, well, I don't know, Well, it's just the climb that Trump created. This is what they are saying now. This is what they're saying now. I was driving back from the blood drive yesterday. I popped over to listen to the BBC, which is aired on our local NPR affiliate, and they've got the Utah Republican Party chairman on and this British idiot just because they got British accents doesn't make them smarter people. Just to heads up on that, This British BBC presenter brings on the Utah GOP chairman and he's asking the chairman about comments not made by Democrats that might have inspired the shooting. That was the topic of the conversation. The reason to have the Republican chairman from Utah on your program is because Charlie Kirk was assassinated in that state. And what does the brit do, probably you know, seething through his bad what does he do? He reads quotes from Donald Trump to this guy. Basically, isn't Donald Trump to blame for all this? What about Donald Trump? What about Donald Trump? Reading quote after quote after quote to try to get this guy to play defend or disavowed D or D. That's the game that the left always plays with Republicans. When the story is a scandal about a Republican, then the story is the scandal, and when it's about when the scandal is about a Democrat, then it's about the Republican reaction. This is all a deflection game that they are playing right now because they know they know this fits the definition of the very thing that they were warning us all about for years and years stochastic terrorism. This fits the bill and they don't want to have any of their fingerprints on it, So they're going to make it about Trump. And that's what Nate Burlison tried to do here with Kevin McCarthy. And as Tony mentioned, not everyone to to his words or his rhetoric. You know at times they were offensive to specific communities. But with that said, this is not the time to focus on that. We are focused on this tragedy. But you're thinking about this tragedy. Is this a moment for your party to reflect on political violence? Is it a moment for us to think about the responsibility of our political leaders and their voices and what it does to the masses as they get lost in misinformation or disinformation that turns in and spills into political viright. I say both, see both sides. See is it a time for your party to do something? Your party be doing something about this? Well, when when somebody gets radicalized by Charlie Kirk to go murder some lefty, then maybe yeah you can. You should draw attention to that. Maybe so, But of all days to frame it like this, this is why they do it. It's it's deflection and McCarthy plays along parties. I don't even say parties, I say a nation. Okay, if there's a moment in matter we want to look to. And I looked back and I watched this again when Robert F. Kennedy is running and he's in Indianapolis and he just got the news that Martin Luther King was killed and he has to tell the crowd because we don't have social media at that time. And it was. Remarkable the words he said. He said, we have to ask as a nation, who are we and how do we want to move forward? We have watched this political attack on both sides. We watched what happened in Minnesota. We watched what happened to President Trump. We've watched this on both sides. This is not a question about parties. This is a question about nations. All right. So here's the thing. If you're trying to make a connection between speech and violence, you bring people on to talk about this event, wouldn't you connect the speech with the violence that we just saw for the event that you're covering. Why are you looking to zoom out? Why are you trying to zoom out? And let's look at all this stuff. This is a story. This is the story. So if you're trying to get to the bottom of what happened, why it happened, this one story, why wouldn't you ask anybody about any kind of rhetoric that actually prompted this? Oh? Is it because you've been using that rhetoric Again, I've been doing this a long time, from a reporter to a host. I have always recognized the responsibility that I have to not inflame people, to not egg people on. I am always consistent in this violence. Just like Charlie Kirk said, you talk through these debates. That's the point. This is the political arena. You go in there, you do battle. It's passionate. Yes, you argue, but that's the point. That's where it stops. If you're going to engage in violence, then I have no use for you, and civil society should not either. And when you demonize your opponents to the extent that now you've got people going out and murdering your political opponents, then yeah, you have some responsibility there, which is why I don't ever ever add anything to that. And I'm only one man. I can only do what I can do. Maybe some people should I don't know, maybe adopt that standard. So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my mom and my dad took care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family. But things are different today because of the work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again Pete's Pack. 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If national Democrats cannot lead their base back to sanity or stage and intervention where that base gets right with the country and its institutions, we're in a dark place. As an aside, this has been a major ideological problem for the intersectional intersectionalist left going back generations. People in the main including those in groups they deem oppressed who they believe are obligated to be united against their own countries based on that supposed oppression, actually like their countries. They don't want revolutionary change and are not sold on shortcuts to Utopia. Eric Ericksson pointed out that in July, he's a talk show host in Atlanta. In July and we covered this at the time, Democrats told Axios that they were scared their base was turning violent. Quote. Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough, that there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public. I was one Democrat lawmaker anonymous. Democrats have a problem in their party. They seem incapable or unwilling to excise this cancer, and I suspect it's because they fear that if they do so, they lose support and they won't be in power. It's an electoral calculation. John Padartz, he had a very lengthy write up and give you some of the highlights. Talking about the danger of social media is that it allows people to publish their internal monologues. Our internal monologues and fantasies are oftentimes incredibly ugly. People go to therapists because they feel so guilty about them, and one of the tasks of a therapist is to explain that thoughts are not actions. You can rage in your thoughts about your brother or somebody at work, even fantasize about them dying. You've done nothing and are guilty of nothing, and you need to forgive yourself and learn how to calm yourself down. Since two thousand and seven, people have a means of externalizing that interior monologue and that and this means something a researcher at MIT saying, rather than just thinking that, Oh, I really want to see that video of Charlie Kirk dying again because it works better than my antidepressant, which is what an MIT professor said. This has now become a public act. I see it, and then I'm affected by it. The public discourse is affected by it. My sense of how the world works, what people are really like, it undergoes a change. I become rageful. I believe people who think this way are evil. It's likely they are not. They just have a means of externalizing the parts of them that no one ever saw. But another human tendency, the tendency to extrapolate from individual samples to the whole. This then kicks in as well. I will assume that anyone and everyone like that MIT researcher is an enemy of everything good and is unsalvageable. And in that way, my world shrinks. The part of him that dehumanizes Charlie Kirk and turns his assassination into a joke then threatens to dehumanize me in a way. And seriously, before social media, I would never even know that this guy existed or that he thought what he thought, and that was better for him and me. The question is, and I mean this literally, can civilization survive now that we have been made to witness the interior lives of others. We don't need to hear your internal monologues. You don't need to vomit all of your crazy, evil thoughts for all the world to see. You don't need to do that. You will be better off for not doing it, and the world will be better off for not doing it. It's sort of like making jokes on the radio. It's why I have the rim shot, because even I, a broadcast professional with no comedic training, recognize that sometimes people don't get the joke, and sometimes my jokes are not very funny. But when I add the rim shot, the jokes become fifty seven percent more hilarious. But when people call in and they try to make jokes, they're not professionals like me, and so sometimes they don't work very well. So over years of doing this job, I know an internal monologue and that stuff doesn't go on the air. But with social media, everybody puts that crap out there. Game on Week one starts now, and every touchdown brings you closer to a payout. With Drift King Sports Book and official sports betting partner of the NFL, this isn't just football, it's first touchdown firework. Anytime TD rushes live bets that ride every momentum shift. At DraftKings, every play is your next shot to win. Will the Panthers win? Will we even get a touchdown? New customers bet just five dollars and get three hundred dollars in bonus bets instantly, plus get over two hundred dollars off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. So your season starts now. 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Digital games and commercial use excluded. Restrictions apply additional NFL Sunday Ticket terms or at YouTube dot com slash Go Slash NFL Sunday Tickets Slash Terms Limited time offer. All right, Matt has been hanging on a very long time. He wants to ask me something about a book. Yeah, I was wondering, Alex Jones. Oh sorry, that's the way I react. Whenever I hear the dame Alex Jones. I don't follow follow Alex Jones, but he had the clip of this is on another YouTuber. Yeah you'll lost me at Alex Jones. Of the book that was published? Are you sure it was? You sure it's a published book? Yeah, We're always on Amazon. That doesn't mean anything. I can post something on Amazon. I can do a graphic posted up onto Amazon and make it look like I'm selling something. I've got an Amazon shop, so and then it doesn't even have to be a real thing. I could just like I could just create an image, post it up there, make it look like it's a book, and then sell the book, or make it look like I'm selling a book and there's no book. There is an l A Thoms in the New York Times that add something posted and so. I mean, I wait about what New York Times LA Times had something posted about what, oh. Yeah, about him his murder, like nineteen hours before he was assassinated. So make you make your assertion. Well, I didn't know if if anybody else. I mean, I was just like verifying you know what I had seen, and it's it's. Does it sound does it sound accurate to you like, does it sound like does that sound believable that the New York Times and the LA Times, you know, notable for their conservatism and right wingery. Do you think that they would somehow or another have been given some advance knowledge that Charlie Kirk was going to be assassinated? Well? No, what was the story? Oh wait, it was it was just clips of I don't I don't think it was like a thing. I mean, so there's yeah, there's video of it happening. It was being recorded right by Turning Point, USA. There's video. There were literally thousands of witnesses to it right right. So I'm I'm not sure and I'm not sure what the conspiracy would be. And I heard a guy call into Brett Winnables show yesterday who was convinced that it was some sort of an op of some kind. Not sure what evidence there is for that. He seemed to think that a two hundred yard shot is like impossible to make unless you are like a highly trained, skilled master hunter I think is the word that he used, which of course is not true, which is why it was probably scoped up as a head shot. But he didn't account for the drop of the bullet, which is why it ended up hitting Kirk in the neck. I mean, I wasn't. I just I mean there's you know. There's That's That's why I'm walking you through the with the questions like does it seem believable? Well no, but I mean a lot of things that don't seem believable, are you know, end up in archery? Right? But I mean think about the scale of the thing that you that you're that you're asking about, right, like that there was somehow or another this plot, there was an op of some kind that was orchestrated. Plot. Well, there had to have been if somebody got advanced notice and they had stories posted up hours before the killing actually occurred, right right, Yeah, So it's just it to me, it does not seem credible or believable at all. All Right, Well maybe some of your other listeners may have. Do you want it to be true? Well, I mean I think it's something that definitely need to be investigated, right, But you don't just so alone gunman that was out to kill him? You know, I mean there's and there's clips you've seen of other you know that the people in the crop are actually cheering, you know, which that. Yeah he did. He had opposition, but when a gunshot rang out, everybody ran, right, Yeah, there weren't people like dancing and celebrating at the time. People were running. That's that. That's what the video shows. When I watched it, I know there's a video that's making the rounds. That is that takes a h takes a different image and superimposes it onto the crowd to make that look like somebody is cheering. But no, everybody ran if you just look at the originalty. That's why I asked, if you want it to be true, I. Mean, I think it's something that needs no I. Understand you said that, but like, do you would you prefer that that there be some other explanation than than a twenty two year old radicalized by left wing antifah ideology. I mean, not necessarily. I mean, you know, I mean, you know, there it's plausible. Anything's plausible. I mean I think it's. Well, anything is possible, But what is what is more plausible? What's more credible? I mean anytime they look and then you know, police investigates any kind of criminal act, you know, or murderers say they they look, I mean they you know, they say they you know, turn over every stone and they look at anything and everything. That's me, who is you know involved or I mean, I'm just saying that, you know, so like that's those things need to be look. Yeah, well, I'm sure Alex Jones will be all over it. But I don't trust Alex Jones on anything, and I don't know. I'm not saying you do. I'm just saying, right, I'm just pointing out that if you if an investigation into these things is what you seek, I'm sure Alex Jones will be doing that kind of investigative work and coming up with all sorts of alternate explanations to tell us what quote really happened in between you know, selling you supplements. So that's Alex. Like I said, I don't listen, No, I know. I know, I'm no, I get it. I'm not saying you do. No, no, no, I'm not saying you do. I'm just like you're saying you want there to be an investigation, you think people should look into it, and I'm telling you I have no doubt people will. People like Alex Jones. Yeah, so that's it, and. Other legitimate sources say the poef or I'm sure cannath ons from the elements. Well, there you go. And if you can't trust heah, can you trust? Right? Matt, I appreciate call I guess all right? You hear me talk a lot about incentives, right, Well, let's talk about incentive trips, the kind that companies offer employees to fire them up and reward their teams. If you own a business or you work somewhere that offers these incentive trips, first off, good for you, but also there is a custom app that's a game changer for these trips. It's called Incentive trip Kit. 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I don't necessarily subscribe to it, but I had seen something as well where it showed a New York Times book coming out on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and I believe it showed it was posted nineteen hours before his assassination. So I think you are I think you're conflating two different things. The posted nineteen hours ago was the articles this is according to that. Might be Yeah, this is from Chris. All Right, you didn't see a book. You saw you saw an image of an Amazon listing that purported to sell a book. But you don't know if there's a book. There's no record that there's a book. There's no record that a book exists. There is not. And that's why with all this stuff, I don't really subscribe to all of it because it could be misinformation. But on the on the one point, on the shot, and I agree with you, where he was gaming. But if you actually watched the replay, Charlie was wearing a bulletproof vest. He was not, and he really because if you look you can see it deflect in center. Matt, No, it was not wearing a bulletproof. Vest, really, and you have that confirmed. Yeah, you can see he's wearing a T shirt. He's walking around throwing out hats. It's a T shirt. You can see the contours of his Torso. Yeah, I don't know. It just looks awfully weird. But again I don't really subscribe to it. Just it looks weird. Yeah, yeah, No, the T shirt he had had some panels on the sides, like from the armpits running down, So it wasn't like he had like there were two parallel panels or seams rather under each armpit going down. And I suspect that's what people are keying on. But it was just a T shirt and even if he were wearing a vest, it still hit him in the neck. So this is from Chris in Shelby, who says the article that the caller was talking about was posted nineteen hours ago. It actually shows that the original article was about Charlie Kirk being at the college. So that was the initial post because Charlie Kirk is coming to this college. And then after the assassination, the article gets updated and so you rewrite it, but the original posting data stays there. Usually there's something that says, you know this this post has been updated at this time or whatever. But some websites, some news organizations may not do that. But generally that's the way you're supposed to do that. But they, you know, if somebody has the article that's already posted, they go into the article to change or update it with the new information. So that's a very good explanation. Chris did the guy Bill from yesterday I believe his name was, Did he ever email you about socialism and communism after he did all that research that he said he was going to do? He did not anonymous seven h four number. He did not. I've not received any email telling me all of the the finer points of of the labels that he was opposed to being labeled with. This. Uh, I don't know, don't have a name for this either. Oh never mind, I won't read that from a three three six number. Ketamine is not good to take before you call Pete that's usually good advice. Joe says that theory about the assassination being posted before it happened came from Alex Jones. Watched it today. Yes, and just for the record, in case anybody was unaware or there's any doubt. I do not trust anything, Alex Jones says. I find him to be a Carnival Barker type of a personality con man. So anyway, you don't have to agree with me, it's totally fine, but that's my view of him. JT says, Pete, between the pot smokers the dumbasses, I really don't know how you make it through a three hour day because I only work three hours a day. Mike says, what you've just described about social media is why I personally do not participate in those platforms any longer. Well, I think if you do it responsibly, like you think, like, what I will do is if I'm going to write something, I will not send it immediately. I do this with emails too, and then I go back a little bit later. I'll wait fifteen twenty minutes, half an hour, and I'll go back and read it again, especially if it's something that is like heat of the moment or whatever, and you always have to reread your stuff and then think about how this is going to be read by somebody who may not have all the information or have ever heard the show, and that sort of thing. David says, thank God for Charlie Kirk and for you Pete. Thank you. You always seem to be my voice. Well, thank you, David, I appreciate that. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone. Hmm.