Matt Walsh get DEI expert to pay $30 in reparations (09-09-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I mentioned this a little bit ago and I had time to read through the article.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's at the New York Post.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an exclusive because the movie has not released yet.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The movie is called Am I Racist?

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's another one of Matt Walsh's documentaries.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Walsh did the What is a Woman documentary and he spent about a year and a half on

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: this one called Am I Racist?

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Where if you haven't seen any of the clips that they have released, I think they put

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: out two of them and I've seen them.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They are hilarious.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He infiltrates the grifters.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: These grifters that go around and tell people that they are racists.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And one clip shows him at some sort of support group.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They're sitting around, he said it took like two, two and a half hours or whatever

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: at this group and he's sitting around and apparently like you are not allowed, like

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: white people were not allowed to shed any tears in the discussion in this DEI struggle

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: session.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And so at one point he starts to cry and so he has to go off into the cry room.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They have a cry room set aside.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're a white person, you're not supposed to cry in front of non-white

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: people because that's a power move apparently.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's not on a scale obviously as a power move would be like you're the

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: doctor trying to tell your patients to go register to vote or anything like

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: that.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This is way worse.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: This is way bigger of a power move is to cry when maybe somebody is attacking

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you as being a racist with unconscious bias and you don't even realize you're

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: racist, you know?

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was one of the clips where he comes back from the cry closet and they

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: have apparently figured out who he is.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And he asks them, oh do I need a better disguise?

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So he does.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes and gets a better disguise.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he is able to infiltrate more settings and he actually gets

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: certified as a DEI instructor of some kind.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So he actually goes and becomes an expert.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he runs his own struggle sessions which hilarity ensues there.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But one of the other clips they put out was at these dinners.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently progressive white women have been hiring women of color to come

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: into their homes and they spend tens of thousands of dollars to be told

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: that they are racists by these two women of color.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very lucrative deal apparently and you know food is provided.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So he was not allowed to participate.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He said he tried to participate.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He tried to get a seat at the table for that dinner but he was prohibited

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: because he's a dude.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So they knew what a woman was.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I know the irony.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They understood what a woman was.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They wouldn't let him sit at their table because he had gone in undercover

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: as a server, as one of the...

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He got a job with the catering company so he could be there.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And so then he tried to get himself seated at the table but they refused.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But he did get them to toast, to raise their glasses in a toast

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and declare I am racist.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So he did get them to do that.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That was one of the other clips.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I have not seen this, the clip I'm about to tell you about.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the clip has actually been produced here

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: or has been leaked or anything.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But the New York Post has apparently gotten some screenshots.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They posted those where he got a sit down interview.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He had to pay.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He had to pay to get an interview with Robin DiAngelo,

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: the white woman who knocked the black guy off

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of the New York Times bestseller list, Ibram X. Kendi, whose book...

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What was it called?

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I forget the name of his book.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the guy that Charlotte Mecklenburg School's brought in...

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: White racist? No.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't...

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Ibram X. Kendi was the guy that they brought in

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: to lecture for like 20 minutes at a cost of like 20-something thousand dollars

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: or something to CMS management, teachers, superintendents, staffers.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So they spent a year reading his book

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and then they had him come in on a Zoom call

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: for like some softball interview and everyone is like, oh my gosh.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess you get a certificate of completion.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think then you're supposed to nail that above your door

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: outside your house or apartment and you put that above your door

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: in this way when the anti-racism...

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how to be an anti-racist, I think was the name of the book.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: How to be anti-racist.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And so this way when the anti-racists come past your door,

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they see the certificate and they pass by.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't require a sacrifice of you.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's how that works.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Totally not a religion though.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so Robin DiAngelo wrote a book called White Fragility

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: where basically she makes the case that you are racist always.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you deny being a racist, that proves you're a racist.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you get upset, if somebody calls you a racist,

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that also means you're racist, but it also shows how fragile you are

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: as a white person, see white fragility.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He paid for an interview with her.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He got a sit down with her.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he has a producer who is black.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Walsh is white.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a producer who's black.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he brings in the producer at one point in this interview

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: with Robin DiAngelo.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, his undercover disguise includes a man bun

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: for those who are interested.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He introduces Ben to Robin DiAngelo

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and says he's a producer on the film.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it would be a powerful way

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: to give a powerful opportunity to speak directly to a person of color

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and confront our racism and also apologize

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: for the white supremacist systems that oppress Ben.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: DiAngelo then responded, quote,

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: on behalf of myself and my fellow white people

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: with three multimillion dollar homes.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding. She didn't say that last part,

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: but she does have three multimillion dollar homes.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, on behalf of myself and my fellow white people,

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It is not you, it is us.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: As long as I am standing, I will do my best to challenge it.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: See, this is what you call allyship.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: She also remember...

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, don't remember. You don't have to remember

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: because you probably didn't read the book.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But she has talked about and she does this in her, you know,

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: ten thousand dollar a second speeches.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: She talks about how you got to give till it hurts.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to give money, got to donate money

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: to nonprofits and activist groups that are doing the work, you know?

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And you got to give till it hurts.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, she has not done that.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: A review of her finances,

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was by the Washington Free Beacon,

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: found that she doesn't give any money.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But you as a white person, that's not her, you have to.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, you have to give it till it hurts.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Walsh then announces after she says this thing,

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I will do my best to challenge it.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not you, it's us white people, right?

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Walsh then says he's going to pay Ben reparations

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: if Ben will accept it.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And his producer, Ben, says,

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: well, I mean, I'm not going to turn it down.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Ben or Walsh hands Ben

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: some money from his wallet, some cash from his wallet.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Walsh says, quote,

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that doesn't make up for 400 years of oppression,

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's all that I have to give.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Ben is in on the joke here.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, I don't know if it's ever enough, you know?

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But he then praises Walsh for putting in the work

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and says, I think we made some progress,

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: some small progress today.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: D'Angelo said that was really weird.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, I think reparations is like a systemic dynamic

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and approach. I mean, I think there may be some people

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: who would be offended by that.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And so then Walsh says, were you offended by that?

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says no.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, well, that's something I can do

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: if it's something I could do right now.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And you yourself, Robin D'Angelo,

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: you have said that we have to make ourselves uncomfortable.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So like, why wouldn't I do it?

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't you also?

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So then she says, well, I can go get some cash for sure.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So she goes over to her pocketbook

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and pulls out about $30 and gives it to him.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: She says, that's all the cash I have.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So we finally got Robin D'Angelo to pay until it hurts.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Now she won't be able to leave a tip at her restaurant

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: for lunch. Oh, wow.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go. Can't wait for this movie.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's coming out on Friday.

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[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go over here to Jeff.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Jeff. Welcome to the show.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, sir.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I am well. What's going on?

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm hoping I completely misheard your last statement

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: because I came in at the tail end of it.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But it sounds like that what you were describing

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: was the beginning of a very friendly 21st century PC mugging procedure

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: where people just pulling into their pockets

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and pulling out their change and whatever they've got

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and just handing it over.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Through peer pressure, through a sense of obligation.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The producer guy that got the cash,

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: he didn't even have to ask for it.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just offered.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, thank God I was raised as a cheapskate.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I carry no cash.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tear my debit card up before I do anything like that.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what would have happened if this white fragility author,

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, DEI expert Robin DeAngelo,

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: if she did not have any cash on her at the time?

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, that would have been embarrassing.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: She would have just been cancelled outright,

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: just dragged through the social media mud.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so is it worse, though, to say that you don't have any cash on you

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: so you didn't give him any money?

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Or is it worse that she gave him like $30 for reparations?

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would say the second would be worse

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: because then you're actually putting a price tag on it.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to be upset.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be like, I'm worth more than $30.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You go get the ATF right now.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't know.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a no-win for her.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Jeff, I appreciate the call.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like... This is why Matt Walsh is like the king troll on this stuff.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he goes into it just deadpan

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and he just lets them tell their stories

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and lets them say what they're going to say

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and everybody can hear how stupid they are, you know?

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And how ethically bankrupt their position is.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: In a related story, a paper came out.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It was published at the Journal of American Medicine,

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the JAMA network.com.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Question, which psychiatric disorder

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: exhibits the strongest improvement associated with placebo treatments?

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a very interesting question.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They did a review of randomized clinical trials or RCTs.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And these are sort of the gold standard.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what you want to read.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: For example, like we didn't have any of these

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: to support masks during COVID.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yet they still push the masks on us.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And when people pointed out that there are no randomized controlled...

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Or, yeah, randomized controlled tests or randomized clinical tests.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: When we pointed this out,

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: they said, shut up, why do you want to kill grandma?

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So the RCTs, these randomized trials

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: are the best way to get at the data.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And a placebo, as we all know, it's a new drug by Pfizer.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm kidding, it's not. It's nothing.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like saline salute. It's nothing.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a placebo. It's a fake pill. It's a sugar pill or something.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So you think you're getting a med and you're not.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And they do that to see if the trial of the actual drug

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: gives a different result than the control group, the placebo group.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So they reviewed a bunch of the RCTs on placebos

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: for people with psychiatric disorders.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What do they find? I will tell you in a minute.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's.

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[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and all of us really helped take care of him

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: as he got progressively worse.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: 40 years ago, there were no treatments

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and not much support for caregivers and family.

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[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so the JAMA Network,

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: which is the Journal of American Medical Association, right?

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They did a study, a meta-analysis, I think,

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: of how many of this?

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: 90, 90 high quality RCTs, randomized clinical trials.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They looked at these trials, 90 trials with almost 10,000 participants

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and what they were looking for was whether or not the people

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: who were undergoing the various treatments as part of the trials,

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: whether the people who got the placebo improved or not.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The systematic review and meta-analysis of 90 high quality RCTs

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: with 99, 185 participants found significant improvement

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: under placebo treatment for all nine disorders.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But the degree of improvement varied significantly among diagnoses.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So different disorders had different levels of improvement.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Patients with major depressive disorder

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: experienced the greatest improvement,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: followed by those with generalized anxiety disorder

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and then panic disorder and then ADHD,

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: post-traumatic stress disorder, social phobia, mania and OCD.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The group that benefited the least, but apparently still did benefit,

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: was people with schizophrenia.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They say these findings may inform planning of more trials,

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: interpreting of uncontrolled studies

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and advising patients for or against a specific treatment.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: This raises the question in my...

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: These studies, they always raise the question in my mind, which is,

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: should the medical professionals prescribe the placebo first

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and not tell you?

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Should they...

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you don't need the meds

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're going to benefit from a placebo,

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: you're going to improve without actually taking any meds,

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: then why not try that first?

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, don't tell the patient,

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: because that would defeat the purpose of the placebo.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They say this systematic review and meta-analysis

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: found that symptom improvement with placebo treatment

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: was substantial in all conditions,

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: but varied across the nine diagnoses.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: These findings may help in assessing the necessity

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and ethical justification of placebo controls

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in evaluating treatment effects and uncontrolled studies

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and in guiding patients in treatment decisions.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: These findings likely encompass the true placebo effect,

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: natural disease course and nonspecific effects.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So what does this mean?

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: To me, not a doctor, but to me,

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: this means that the cure is within you.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That for some of these disorders,

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it's literally in your mind and you can change that,

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: which is empowering, right?

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a fantastic message.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to get on the prescription drugs.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the problem with my suggestion

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: of just giving everybody placebos first

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: is that eventually people are going to catch on

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and then they're going to be like,

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, give me some meds

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and don't you be giving me no placebos, doc, right?

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think at that point,

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: then maybe some medical ethics kick in

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're not allowed to force people

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: to take a drug that they...

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually, no, that doesn't apply anymore.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess you could lie to them at that point, right?

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You could just say,

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: oh, yeah, yeah, no, I'm not going to get a placebo.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you the placebo.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And give them a placebo, right?

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You could do that.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, then if they don't improve,

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: then you could just be like,

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: okay, now we're going to give you the real drug

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: or different drug.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll give you a different one

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: than this drug here from Pfizer

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: called placebo or something or placebo, right?

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's good.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I also saw over the weekend

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: there was a study that was done

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: about dudes and testosterone

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and the connection with their political philosophy.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to be mean here.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying I saw this study over the weekend

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: that people who are...

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so people who are really progressive,

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: unaffected, okay?

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But for people who are, for dudes,

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: who are sort of leaning left, right?

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of...

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just a little bit liberal on some stuff, you know?

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That when they got testosterone,

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they began then identifying more

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: with the Republican Party than the Democrat Party.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that I'm not trying to be mean about it.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then somebody pointed out,

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'd heard this years ago.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was This American Life.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it was Ira Glass.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And they all...

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He, the host, Ira Glass,

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and all of his 7,000 producers,

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: because they have tons of producers

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: for all of the NPR shows.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because they get the free money from taxpayers

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: so they can hire way more people

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: to produce all sorts of stuff.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they had all of the producers

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: take testosterone tests

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: to find out what their T levels were.

[00:22:39] And...

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of the chicks

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: had higher T levels than all of the dudes.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And one of them, I think, was a trans.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And that person said

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: that when they first started taking their testosterone

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: as part of their transition,

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that they developed an interest in science

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: that they had never had before.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's true.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I'm just telling you,

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: like, that was what they found

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in their little control group there.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they found too.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's science!

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And not the Fauci.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying it's actual science.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: HotAir.com by John Sexton.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Headline, DOJ Public Affairs Chief says

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Alvin Bragg's case against Trump

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: was a quote, perversion of justice.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: This is an undercover video.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It was published by Steven Crowder.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever your thoughts about him are, set aside.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They published an undercover video

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: he did, which renews some old doubts

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: about what really motivated Alvin Bragg's case

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: against Donald Trump.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: As you probably remember, Alvin Bragg used some,

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: shall we say, creative legal work

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: to turn a bunch of misdemeanor infractions

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: involving business records

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: into a host of felony charges.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And he did that because that was the only way

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that he could bring the charges

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: because the statute of limitations had already expired

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: on the state misdemeanor charges.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the quote, creative legal work.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Now the DOJ's Chief of Public Affairs

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: for the Southern District of New York,

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: where Bragg is based out of,

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: this fellow by the name of Nicholas Biasi,

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: is on video saying that the whole case was quote, nonsense.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sexton says quote,

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: kudos to Crowder for getting the video

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and also for saying right out of the gate

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: that Biasi is not the bad guy here.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: What we're getting is an unbiased take

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: from someone who worked with Alvin Bragg for 10 years.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's what Biasi said, quote,

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Bragg was stacking charges and rearranging things

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: just to make it fit a case.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: To be honest with you, I think the case is nonsense.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Every real estate person in New York does what Trump did.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has ever been charged with this.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all him.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, Trump, because it's Trump.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he called it a perversion of justice.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, Sexton says it was motivated by partisan politics.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Which we knew.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Former federal prosecutor,

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Ellie Hanig wrote a piece for the New Yorker magazine

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: making the case that Bragg had contorted the law.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And this piece came out just after the verdict was announced.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Hanig said no state prosecutor in New York or Wyoming

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: or anywhere has ever charged federal election laws

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: as a direct or predicate state crime against anybody, for anything.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: None ever to inflate the charges up to the lowest level felony

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and then to electroshock them back to life

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: within the longer felony statute of limitations.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The DA alleged that the falsification of business records

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: was committed with intent to commit another crime.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Here, according to prosecutors, the another crime

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: is a New York state election law violation,

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: which in turn incorporates three separate unlawful means.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Federal campaign crimes, tax crimes

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and falsifications of still more documents.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: what those unlawful means actually were

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and the judge declined to force them to do so

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: until right before the closing arguments.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what the indictments are supposed to be for.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to lay them all out, all the charges.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You lay it all out in front of the defendant

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: so they can then prepare a defense.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And in these key respects,

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Hanig wrote that the charges against Trump are not just unusual.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They're seemingly crafted individually

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: for the former president and nobody else.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why when people say to me, as one caller did,

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like, I don't know what, two weeks ago or something.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And they tried to they tried to say something about the 34 indictment

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: or 34 convictions.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The 34 convictions, it's a 34 convictions.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't care.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why that's why I don't care.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Is because I don't believe that these are legitimate convictions,

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: because I don't believe in the way that I don't believe the way

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: that the prosecutor, Alvin Bragg,

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: crafted the indictments and then the judge allowed

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the proceeding to occur as it did.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing was corrupt.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So, no, I don't I don't hold that against Donald Trump,

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: much like I would hold the conviction against Rubin Hurricane Carter.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't throw it in people's face that he was a convicted murderer.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a convicted murderer.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes, he was convicted, but he was convicted by a.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What was it?

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The trial was a pig circus, I believe Bob Dylan called it.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Beyonce doesn't seem any more impressed

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: with the Georgia case either, which is being run by Fannie Willis,

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: who, by the way, did you know her daughter was in a car accident

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the other day and she I think she's fine.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But Fannie showed up at the crash site

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and she was there with Nathan Wade, who she's no longer dating.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not romantically involved anymore.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that all ended.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But he just apparently happened to be with her

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: when they showed up together at the car accident anyway.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's video of it.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy Beyonce calls the Fannie Willis charges a mockery of justice.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: There seems to be a lot of this partisan gotcha going on

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: in the justice system when it comes to Trump, says John Sexton at Hot Air.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to believe he's pure as the driven snow

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: to see that he's also being railroaded by partisans for political reasons.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Precisely.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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