Maryland Man's odd body art (04-18-2025--Hour1)

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[00:00:28] I need to start the first hour here with a solicitation, a plea, if you will. Pete's plea. I am in need of some service, okay? And so I'm going to use the airwaves. It's not just for my benefit. I'm not making any money on it. But I feel like everybody would benefit.

[00:00:56] All of the people that knew all of the meanings behind the tattoos on our Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, all of you guys, there were a bunch of you guys. If you could do me a favor, please, I beg you. Could you take a look at the arm of the Maryland dad? Because there's a picture of him now.

[00:01:25] He's alive and well, apparently being very well fed down at the notorious El Salvadoran prison. That is the name of the prison as far as I can tell. Because every time I hear the prison mentioned, it's always called notorious. So I assume that's the name of the prison. So yeah, we got a picture of him. We got proof of life.

[00:01:46] Thanks to Senator Chris Van Hollen from Maryland, who has not met with the family of Rachel Morin, murdered and raped and murdered by an illegal alien. And hasn't met with her, but went down to make sure that the Maryland dad that's being held at the notorious El Salvadoran prison, that he was still alive and being cared for.

[00:02:15] And he was OK. And he was apparently got a meeting after he was told he couldn't do the meeting. Apparently, somebody thought, you know what? Let's go ahead and set up a meet with Van Hollen and the Maryland dad. At a place we call the Briar Patch. And Van Hollen said, oh, yes. And went right into the Briar Patch. So.

[00:02:41] The reason I ask for the expertise of the tattoo knowers, tattoo experts, is because the Maryland dad, he's got a bunch of tattoos. He doesn't have them on his face, as best I can tell. It's a profile picture that I have seen.

[00:02:56] However. There are Internet sleuths that are now offering their expertise on some of the tattoos that the man has and what has really attracted attention are the tattoos on the man's left hand, his fingers. Specifically on the four fingers, not the thumb, because the thumb technically isn't a finger, right? It's a digit, if I recall correctly. Anyway, the four fingers.

[00:03:27] One on his on his pointer finger, his index finger there. Is a marijuana leaf. OK, OK. I don't know what the legal status of pot is in Maryland. OK, maybe it's medicinal. We don't know. OK, but he's got the he's got a marijuana leaf on that on that between the knuckle and the first joint of the index finger. Next on his middle finger. He's got a smiley face.

[00:03:57] I don't know. I don't know what that means. Maybe it's just when you're in traffic and somebody cuts you off. It's a way to, you know, flip somebody off, but in a nice way. See, it's a smiley face. OK, so marijuana leaf, smiley face. And then he's got on the ring finger. He's got. A crucifix across and then on the third or sorry, the pinky finger. He's got a skull.

[00:04:30] What is he trying to tell me? Marijuana leaf, a smiley face, a cross and a skull. Well, I decided to do a quick Google search. Actually, not Google. They're a monopoly. Did you hear that? Anyway, I did a search on DuckDuckGo, which is native to the Brave browser, which I highly recommend as a browser. I'm not paid to say that either.

[00:05:00] But the apparently. Did you know that criminal enterprises, people who participate in gang activity, they are fond of the body art. Did you know this? They they like to. Yeah, they wear tattoos. They put tattoos on themselves. Well, I guess they have somebody put them on. Well, maybe they do their own, but whatever. They have tats and the tattoos oftentimes communicate their affiliation with the criminal enterprise.

[00:05:32] And there's a gang. Maybe you've heard of them. They're called MS-13. And Maris Salvatra, whatever, 13. And I think they're originally out of Honduras. Not to be confused with the Barrio 18 group. It's a different group. That's the 18th Street Gang or something. But they, too, both of these gangs and they are rival gangs.

[00:05:58] They do not like each other like the Sharks and the Jets, you know, and they don't like each other. But they also share a similarity in that they wear a lot of tattoos. They have a lot of tattoos. And get this.

[00:06:12] They hide some of their gang logos and stuff inside of what seemingly would be, at first glance, innocuous images or even religious images. In fact, that's a pretty big one. They really do enjoy hiding their gang symbols inside of Christian iconography.

[00:06:42] And one of those symbols they really like to use, they hide the one in a cross. And they hide the three in a skull. Now think of the four tattoos again. Marijuana, smiley face, cross or one, and skull with the three in it.

[00:07:15] Marijuana, smiley face, one, three. All you experts in tattoo art and what the real meaning is, particularly when it comes to, you know, burying these nefarious ideologies inside of body art. Could you guys lend your expertise on this one? Just take a look, see if you notice anything.

[00:07:41] Because I think that might be relevant if you're, you know, accused of being in the MS-13 gang, if you're sporting a bunch of tats that are in line with the MS-13 gang, Inc. You know? So that's my plea. Thank you very much. If you can lend your expertise to this investigation, we would greatly appreciate it. I don't know if this is actually the case.

[00:08:10] I don't know for sure because I've never spoken to this MS-13, I mean this Marilyn dad. I've never spoken to Mr. Abrego Garcia. So I don't know for sure why he chose all of these different tattoos. But I can tell you that the tattoos are in line with what MS-13 does. Oh, they're also big fans of the, you know, the three monkeys.

[00:08:35] One's got their hands over their ears and one's covering their eyes and one's covering his mouth. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Apparently MS-13 really loves that one too. And you can actually find images very quickly with a quick search online. You'll find images of the MS-13 gang members with tattoos head to toe doing that thing where there will be three of them in a row.

[00:09:05] And they're doing that see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. So apparently one of the things that law enforcement, the gang unit actually up in Maryland, where the Maryland dad lived illegally. But one of the things that they noted was his sweatshirt, his hoodie when they brought him in or when they identified him.

[00:09:29] He had a sweatshirt that had a whole bunch of like dollar bills and various currency images on the hoodie, you know, like just our currency. And the currency images of our, you know, presidents and, you know, Ben Franklin and stuff. They had their eyes, their mouths and their ears covered with rolls of cash.

[00:09:54] So picture an image of a hundred dollar bill and the Ben Franklin image in the middle of it has got rolls of cash covering his eyes, his mouth and his ears. Which seems to me to be a pretty specific kind of image, you know, like I think you got to get that thing custom or like on Cafe Press or Zazzle or something.

[00:10:17] He was also wearing a Chicago Bulls hat, which is also apparently a symbol in MS-13 that you are a member in good standing. I'm not sure if the Chicago Bulls are aware of this. They may want to do a copyright lawsuit or something against the gang. But I'm sure that this is all just coincidental and doesn't prove a single thing in any court of law.

[00:10:43] But actually, no, there is a thing, the preponderance of the evidence, right, that that's the civil standard, that it's more likely than not. And either this guy is sort of the the unluckiest guy with all of these things that just, you know, point to some sort of affiliation with MS-13. Or he's a member of MS-13.

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[00:12:54] Do you want to elaborate on that? Well, the Fifth Amendment, well, you're a libertarian. I figured you would remember that we have due process, and it says no person shall be deprived of their due process. That's the 14th Amendment. No, this is the Fifth Amendment. Yeah, the Fifth Amendment. Right. The Fifth Amendment talks about the due process, then the 14th explains what the due process means.

[00:13:20] But you're talking about the disposition of his case, right? Yeah. Right. So he was, well, but, all right, so what were the three claims that he made? I don't understand what you're asking. Okay, so he went to, he was ordered to be deported, right, in the first case. You do know that, right? Okay. Then he appealed that for a different cause, a different claim.

[00:13:48] He lost that one as well in front of a different immigration judge. And then the third claim was the WOR, the warrant of removal. And that's where they said, yes, he is deportable. You just can't send him back to El Salvador. And that's where the... Hang on. And that's where the Trump administration admitted that they messed up. Now they're saying, well, we can't fix it, and we don't want to fix it.

[00:14:15] And this is where the court is saying, no, you have to facilitate fixing this. They can't fix it because they were willingly not doing so. The Supreme Court wrote 9-0. Right. 9-0, including Thomas and Alito. Yeah. All of them. Right. It's pretty easy to understand that he's defying... And Judge Wilkinson recently said, facilitates an active verb. Correct. Wilkinson was amazing to read. It's about us. This is about due process. And if it's not Abrego, it's about the gay makeup artist they sent.

[00:14:43] It's about a number of people who were never given due process. Well, hang on a second. So I would disagree with you that Abrego Garcia was not given due process. He was given due process by the fact that he was brought before two different judges making two different claims. That was rejected on both counts because of the MS-13 connections. So he was ordered deportable. Even regardless of the MS-13 stuff, he was ordered deportable because he was an illegal alien.

[00:15:12] That's been here for a long time, right? So he was ordered deported. The government can make that case. Right. And they did. No, but they did. They did. They won. Then he appealed with a different claim. He lost that one then, too. That's due process as well. He then made a third claim, and he won the third claim. And that was simply to say he doesn't get to be deported to El Salvador. But they could send him apparently anywhere else. And so I have argued. But he's in El Salvador now. Right. I agree.

[00:15:40] And the administration has admitted that that was their mess up, too. And now they are defiant in fixing that. Now, I suggested that they just give the bus ticket to the president of El Salvador, who can hand it off. Or they could have given it to Senator Van Hollen. He could have just driven him across the border of El Salvador into another neighboring country. Sure. And that would have remedied the situation. But the Trump administration is apparently trying to force this issue somehow. To what end? I do not know.

[00:16:10] Well, the end would be to litigate each and every one of these to the point that the whole system goes into paralysis. Because if it's not, again, they could have given bus ticket. There's ways to remediate Abrego Garcia's case. There's also ways to remediate, like, the gay makeup artist. We don't know. They were sent to El Salvador, not their home country. And what's this contract that we're paying them for? Like, we paid them, what, $6 million? Okay, but that's not a due process issue. But it is. They were sent without being able to go before a judge. No. No, no.

[00:16:39] If they were ordered deported, if these people had deportation orders against them, right? They come into the country illegally. You get caught somehow. They can't reduce the evidence that there has been for, like, Henri or any of these other people. Right. So what you're advocating then is... Wait, so when... I'm trying to be clear on what it is that you're advocating, because I thought I heard you just say something about hearing the cases individually and that to slow the process. No, I'm saying that's Trump's game. Trump always delays every piece of... That's Trump's game. But Trump... But hang on.

[00:17:08] Trump tried to deport en masse, and that's what got him sued. That was illegal. Yeah. Right. So you can't deport en masse. So we have to hear every single case. So everybody that comes... Everyone that comes into the country illegally, tens of millions of people, by some estimates, we have to have a separate hearing for every single one of the people, even after they've been adjudicated in a court that they were here illegally. He admitted... By the way, he admitted that he came in illegally.

[00:17:37] He did admit that. But they're... Yeah. But they're saying that to be adjudicated is the crux of it. Yeah. But he admitted he came in. They were 80 people. They weren't adjudicated. But he admitted he came in illegally. Braco Garcia said... He told them he came in. He explained how he made the trek in 2012, came across. So there isn't any disagreement that he is here illegally. Right. So what's the due process problem? Well, they were given protected status, from what I understand. And then they were taken...

[00:18:06] They basically defied the previous orders. I haven't followed every detail of it. But I do understand that there's a due process concern there. And there's also a due process concern for all the Venezuelans that have not been 100% proven. Right. So, but the people that came in using the app, the CHNV program that Biden instituted for the Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, right?

[00:18:30] That additional program that Biden put in place to give mass, quote-unquote, parole, which was also unconstitutionally and illegal. He wasn't allowed to do that because they are supposed to be admitted on a case-by-case basis by the Secretary of Homeland Security. And they were not. They were given blanket parole in violation of the law. And so now, so what I'm hearing, Dan, is that we can violate the law to allow everybody to use an app to come in and get parole. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I don't agree with that.

[00:18:59] And I don't agree with what the mass parole was saying. Okay, so then can we... But everybody that came in on the mass parole system, then, can we just take all of those people that signed up for that parole system and say, okay, you admit you came in under this parole system, so that means you're not allowed to be here, so we're going to send you back? That's what the law, the judicial system should go through. They tried to short-circuit that. No, they didn't. They said, if you came in under this program, program is over. You got to go back. You got 30 days. And that's what you're saying is used to apply to the supposed...

[00:19:29] All of it is, right? People who have... Or who are known deportable. Those were the first people that they started going after with the criminal records. And they weren't sent back to their home country. They were sent to a prison with no... There's no... When they can't send them back... Yeah, when they can't send them back to Venezuela, because Venezuela, being a socialist hellhole, they won't take them. So what do you do? Let's rephrase this. Right. So what do you do? All right. So let me... Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Tyler, what do you have to have a term limit? Tyler, what do you do?

[00:19:58] What do you do with somebody from Venezuela when Venezuela won't take them back? Well, you could incarcerate them here, or you could schedule an incarceration elsewhere. Which is what he did. Except for we don't know the terms of that incarceration. We're paying for something. We don't know if they have an ability for parole. We don't know how many meals a day they're getting. We don't know whether they'll go visit some family. It's all... We sent them away to a foreign... So government needs to take care of them? The government...

[00:20:28] We have a responsibility under our Constitution. This is who we are as Americans. No, no, no. It's one of the... That's a different claim, though. One is we have a responsibility as Americans. The other would be a constitutional claim of some kind, which I'm not... I don't think it's actually in that Constitution. But Tyler, I appreciate the call. Good chatting with you. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do, too. And you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why?

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[00:21:50] Back to the phones I go, and here I talk with Tony. Hello, Tony. Welcome to the program. Hey, Pete. How are you? Hey, I'm good, man. What's up? Good. How much? I was a retired law enforcement from Long Island, New York. I never would have guessed you were a Long Islander, Tony. I never would have guessed that. And according to your interest in how you were portraying all his identifying characteristics, and to add another layer to that argument, if he had any of those identifying marks on him

[00:22:19] and he did not earn or should not have them, MS-13 would have reacted extremely violently, if not, or might he kill them for having those marks on his body? Sure. Yeah. If you're representing that you're a... You can pretend to have. Right. If you're representing that you have attained a certain status or you're in a certain gang, like the Western click of MS-13, which is what he is alleged to have been a part of,

[00:22:47] and he was known to the Maryland law enforcement gang units, and that's where a lot of the information in the original court proceedings came from, yeah, like they would have... They'd have done him nasty if they knew that he was... And they were violent for violence's sake a lot of times. It was a remarkable level of violence that they saw with that gang up there. Yeah, they tried to say the Western click was based out of Brentwood, Long Island,

[00:23:16] and not in Maryland. That's what this guy's lawyer claimed, but that's not true. The lawyer made a misrepresentation about the territory controlled by the Western click of MS-13, which when I saw that, that they were centered in Brentwood, do you... You're a perfect person to ask. Do you ever hear of the Strong Island boys? Yes. Yeah. Are they still around or did... Are they fighting with MS-13 up there or are they just like old news?

[00:23:46] They're like old news. Yeah, okay. That was back when I was a kid. We were always so terrified of the Strong Island boys. We went through the cycle there. We had the motorcycle gangs, and then we went into these other more violent gangs from there. So we had the Pagans and the Angels. Yeah. Then we had a little few flare-ups with them, and then you had the MS-13 really start to take things over with the violence. Yeah. All right. Tony, I appreciate it, buddy. That's a great point. Thank you.

[00:24:21] I worked for the U.S. Postal Service, and I worked for a post office in southeast Charlotte, and it was located in a strip mall area. And this was like 20 years ago. On the side of the building, scrawled in large letters and numbers with MS-13 and spray paint. I mean, this crap has been going on for years. Oh, yeah. Something should have been done about long before now.

[00:24:43] Yeah, and I remember covering the MS-13, the rise of MS-13, yeah, years ago, probably 15 years ago. They're in Charlotte. I mean, like, they just busted a couple of them or sentenced a couple of them. I did this story yesterday. Three people, two people convicted for them. They're going to serve 35 years for murdering somebody in, I want to say, East Charlotte a couple years back.

[00:25:12] And they did it to advance through the ranks of MS-13. Yeah, something needs to be done about it. I certainly hope that the Trump administration is able to deport every single one of these illegal vermin who are here. I hope something can be done about it. Well, I mean, I think that's what he ran on. That's what people, I think, voted for him to do. Alex, I appreciate the call. Yeah, and look, I don't have to choose as to whether or not the administration

[00:25:40] is now acting in defiance of the court or this guy should have been deported. I don't have to choose between those two. That's a false choice. And earlier call with Tyler there, he, I think, was trying to box me into this false choice that you're either for due process or you're for him getting deported. No, I could be for due process and I can recognize that the Trump administration on this one, on the third order is acting in defiance.

[00:26:08] I can, yeah, I can, I can see that. I can also see the two other judges when presented with all of the evidence and upon the agreement of Abrego Garcia himself who said, okay, fine, I will leave. Just don't send me to El Salvador because the Barrio 18 gang is there, a rival gang of MS-13. So he did not want to be sent back to El Salvador and the Trump administration sent him back there

[00:26:35] anyway and that was in violation of the third court order or claim. So, like, I can say, yeah, he was absolutely deportable. Where they screwed up was sending him to the one country on the face of the planet that a judge said don't send him back to. Marty, welcome to the program. Hey, Marty. Yeah, hey, Peter. How are you doing? Good. Listen to you often. First time caller. Welcome. Yeah, yeah.

[00:27:01] So I wonder if all about Tyler, and I can't wait for you to bring up the point, isn't this gang labeled as a terror gang and do they have the same rights, terrorist group, and do they have the same rights in the Fifth Amendment, you know, due process if they're a terrorist? That's a fair question. They were designated, MS-13 was designated as a foreign terrorist organization. And yeah, the Fifth Amendment. Do they have the same due process? I mean, that's my question.

[00:27:31] Yeah, there is an exception in the Fifth Amendment, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces or in the militia when in actual service in time of war or public danger. So yeah, like I could see, I'm no constitutional law expert, and I'm sure there's mountains of case law about this stuff. But it just seems to me pretty stupid that you can create an unlawful program to allow, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions of people to come in illegally.

[00:28:01] And then you can't remove them by the same method in a blanket way. It's just bizarre to me. Yeah. Yeah. And Tyler is worried about to have three meals a day. Why don't you stay on time or something? Yeah. Well, I mean, that would, yeah. House arrest. That's possible. No, I appreciate the call, Marty. Thank you. Look. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. All right. Have a great weekend. I understand the discomfort of this kind of government power. Absolutely.

[00:28:31] And I said from the very beginning that the government is going to make mistakes in everything it does. It's GovCo for crying out loud. It's not a surprise. The question is, what will they do when they make mistakes and they have to remedy the situation? And in this case, I don't know if there's some sort of a legal strategy at play to try

[00:28:53] to advance a goal or an agenda that would have larger implications for other cases. I don't know if there's a dual strategy, like with the birthright citizenship case, which I will get to. There, to me, it seems pretty clear there's a dual path that they're running, that Trump administration is running. On this one, I can't, like I said, I thought the obvious answer was get the guy a plane ticket and fly him out to some other country.

[00:29:23] He can even choose. I don't care. Like, they could have just short-circuited this whole thing. But now, at this point, I kind of feel like they're in it for the PR benefits that they're getting. When you have the Democrats rallying around an MS-13 gang member whose wife took out restraining orders against the guy or filed the application to and then recanted. So was she lying then or is she lying now when she says he was this great husband?

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[00:31:08] from the DOJ that has staked out its position on Abrego Garcia and whether or not they will have to, what they will do to facilitate his return. Okay, so here is, here's what they say. Department of Homeland Security has established processes for taking steps to remove domestic obstacles

[00:31:36] that would otherwise prevent an alien from lawfully entering the United States. I have been authorized, this is from Pam Bondi, I have been authorized to represent that DHS is prepared to facilitate Abrego Garcia's presence in the United States in accordance with those processes if he presents at a port of entry. Okay, so this is them facilitating, I guess. This is their, I'm just reading this for the first time, people.

[00:32:05] I have, okay, I have been authorized to represent Homeland Security is prepared to facilitate his presence in the U.S. in accordance with our already established processes. If he shows up at a port of entry, okay, if he sneaks across the border somehow again and we catch him, like, all bets are off, I guess. Next sentence.

[00:32:28] I have been authorized to represent that if Abrego Garcia does present himself at a port of entry, he would become subject to detention by DHS. In that case, DHS would take him into custody in the United States and either remove him to a third country or terminate his withholding of removal,

[00:32:53] the WOR, which is the only one that, that's the only claim he made that he won, which was don't send me to El Salvador, but you can send me anywhere else. He agreed to be deported because he had lost his two attempts with two different judges to stay after acknowledging and explaining how he, you know, crossed the border illegally and has been staying in America for over a decade.

[00:33:20] So if he does show up at a port of entry, he would then be detained and DHS would take him into custody in the United States and then either send him to a third country or terminate the withholding of removal order because of his membership in MS-13, a designated foreign terrorist organization, and then they would send him back to El Salvador. So that's how they are facilitating his return.

[00:33:48] If he comes back across a port of entry, then we'll take him into custody and then deport him. The district court, according to Margot Cleveland, the district court has said that facilitate means what it means in the dictionary and you have to facilitate his return to the U.S. under the meaning, that meaning in the dictionary, and submit to discovery, you know, to show the court,

[00:34:17] to tell us what you have done. But the DOJ's position is, no, you have to tell us precisely what you want us to do first. The DOJ sought a stay from the court, making this point in that forcing the executive to facilitate beyond removing domestic barriers for Garcia infringes on Article 2. The Fourth Circuit denied that stay. Cleveland says,

[00:34:45] I fully get it why DOJ is drawing that line and demanding the court specify what it is ordering the DOJ to do. Because if the court says what it is telling DOJ to do, it will be clear it is overstepping into Article 2 authority. Right? That's why the DOJ is saying, tell us what you want us to do. Because if you tell us what you want us to do, everyone will see that you are, you're abusing your power. You're overreaching.

[00:35:14] You're overstepping into our authority of the executive branch. But, for as wrong as district court's opinion is, the DOJ has yet to address the fact that the Supreme Court said the district court properly ordered Trump administration to facilitate release from custody. That was the Supreme Court saying that. Yes, the district court added facilitate return to U.S. and that was overstepping. But part of facilitating release to U.S. would be facilitating release from custody,

[00:35:43] which is what the Supreme Court said was proper. And the DOJ's argument that all it's going to do is let him, you know, get to a port of entry and then get arrested again. Right? That's not consistent with the Supreme Court's order. The Supreme Court, she says, for them to say it was appropriate to order Trump administration to facilitate release from custody, it meant they did not believe doing that would infringe on Article 2 authority. But why is that?

[00:36:14] She says the only way ordering Trump to facilitate release from custody would not infringe on the executive branch authorities if the custody was not based on diplomatic give and take, but on executed agreements regarding detaining folks in El Salvador for the U.S. This is all very legally wonky, I know. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here.

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