Local mom angry over illegal alien's release (12-01-2025--Hour3)

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It's not the turkey specifically, it's everything together, I think. So. Anyway, so you had a good Thanksgiving yep? Good? Okay, So let's see here let's go awhere to start. Let's start because I've been covering the Mechlamburg County commissioners are very very concerned about the increased costs of complying with Arena's law that took effect today. They had a big meeting and they're like, oh my gosh, we don't have any money and all this. And so when one of the things that our sheriff, Gary not my fault McFadden was lamenting was that, hey, if this immigration bill gets overridden, then there's going to be even more pressure on the jail with even more people having to be held. But one would think that there might be some examples of why our sheriff should be forced to cooperate with immigration and Customs enforcement when you know, violent people end up in jail. And there is actually a pretty recent case of this that you covered. Jordan Renato Castillo Chavez. Yes, yeah, arrested by So I guess this guy was caught up in the Customs and Border Patrol Charlotte's web operation the other day. He was not only because he wasn't in jail already. Oh yeah, okay, well so that's so had So Okay, let me see if I can connect these dots. Had McFadden not released him, then Border Patrol would not have needed to come to town to pick him up. They still would have had to come pick him up, but he wouldn't have been an active target for Charlotte's webs out and about right. He wouldn't be driving around maybe using his vehicle as a weapon against law enforcement, not that he's charged with doing that, but. Well, the victim's mother he had a he was He was arrested for sexual assault of a minor, first degree sexual exploitational minor association of a child by computer and his victim was thirteen year old, and the mother of that thirteen year old asked the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's office about his release, and they said that they let him go because they were quote not legally required to detain him, so she was pretty upset about that. He was booked into jail earlier this year on May seventh, given a fifty thousand dollars bond, which he apparently posted because he was out and about, and the e court system showed him that he was indicted on those charges on May nineteenth, and an affidavit filed in the case and the victim had a brief hospital stay due to sexual assault with no injuries. So you know, he was fingerprinted, he gave his DNA sample, he had to surrender his passport, and he'd remove all kinds of apps from his phone and have no contact with the victim. But he was allowed to just you know, go. Free to go right on a fifty thousand dollars bound. Do you know if that was secured or unsecured. I think it was secured. Usually when it's that high, it's secured. Yeah, So he posted the secured bond. And I'm assuming because he had a passport, is he is he I legal or illegal? Actually? I don't even know, because I guess he could have surrendered his foreign passport. He could have. It wasn't It wasn't clear in the documents if it was a US passport or if it was a foreign passport. But he wasn't illegal. Had a passport of some kind, right, and so he was, but he was an illegal alien. Otherwise Customs and Border custom and Border patrol. Would not have Yeah, target think it was I'm thinking it was a foreign passport. Yeah, unless he had you know, forged documents for you know, an American passport, which. That never happened. Really actually hard to do. Yeah no, and they would never have any kind of you know, fake identification. Yeah sure. So yeah, this guy was out there rolling around in DHS. They put up a press release that during Charlotte's Web that he was one of six that they picked up who had been released because authorities didn't honor the ICE detainers. Right, And this is what I said the entire week when CBP was operating here, is that this is the reason CBP is here is because the local authorities, specifically our sheriff, not my fault, McFadden, where nothing is ever his fault. That's why I call him that. But that's that like his policies and his refusal to cooperate with ICE, his refusal to pick up the phone and call them, and his refusal to hold these these illegal aliens on these detained ICE detainer requests, that's the reason why CBP is here is because we know that he keeps turning these people loose from the jail, So they know CBP knows like, if we come to town, we're going to be able to scoop up a bunch of people that are illegal aliens. That have been arrested because we know he turns them out. Yeah, well that's you know, the number that was released, and it was picked up when they had finished the first couple of portions, the first couple of days, it was already into the two hundred range, and by the time they got to Raleigh, I think like the final account was over three hundred and seventy. So clearly there are folks out there that had part of I'm sure some of them have been released and not had the detainer honored. However, the Wait County sheriff issued a statement. I think it was over the weekend. There was a rumor that Ice was coming to Raleigh today and tomorrow, spread by the activist group Las ci Umbre, but no one could confirm that that actually was going on, and Sheriff Willy Rogue here in Wake County said that he didn't have any heads up that that was going on, So that tells me it was smoke and he said, yeah, no, nothing's going on here. But he encouraged people to let them do their job and stay out of the way. So that was different from his predecessor. Yeah, I'm definitely different from jeff My Fat and over there. Yes. Absolutely. He actually put out another statement. I'll read that after we let you go, which is it. It's in line exactly with what you would expect, but let me shift gears. The North Carolina State Auditor, Dave Bollock took a look at the COVID funds and that were that were part of the ARPA passed in twenty twenty one, the American Rescue Plan Act. And this was supposed to be for like COVID recovery, and so they sent a lot of money out the door of the helicopter, just dumping it on everybody in all these cities and counties and whatnot. And what did he discover, Well. He found two point ninety five billion and undistributed funds. Now they were allocated, these funds had been you know, earmarked for this, that and the other thing. But two point ninety five billion, or more than half of the funds were undistributed. So this is money that's what sitting in North Carolina State agency bank accounts. Uh yeah. Apparently he listed out a couple of examples in there. One was the Department of Environmental Equality who had one point nine billion in allocations and had not requested eighty nine percent of their funds or one point seven billion. So that's like most of it. Yeah, the office is let's see the Office of Information Technology, they requested six hundred and eighty seven million or they had not requested six hundred and eighty seven million, or ninety four percent of the seven hundred and thirty four million that they had allocated. That included broadband funds of one hundred and twenty six million. Department of Health and Human Services had forty percent or two hundred and one million that were not yet requested out of the five million, five hundred and three million that were allocated to them, and one hundred and twenty million of that was remaining funds for leading asbestos remediation and schools and childcare facilities, so that hasn't been done. That was the big deal they were talking to, like, well, we need to upfit all of the schools and we need to get better HVAC systems and make them safer for kids to be in so it's not spreading respiratory viruses and all of this stuff. And they've got all of this money and they haven't spent it. They haven't even. Asked for it. Yeah, I mean, it just goes on and on. There was another one for the Department of Commerce. They'd requested or they got one hundred and twenty six million that were allocated and fifty four million or forty three percent of that was not yet requested, and thirty nine million in remaining funds were related to a rural downtown transformation grant. So so, all right, do you remember, because I do not, Do you remember, like, how did how did the federal government come up with these funding numbers for each of these agents? I think they were in part population based, okay, population and tax spaces and that sort of thing we're used in a formula. I tried to understand at one point when it came to the school of formula funding. But it had to do with also an apportionment or a percentage of the federal dollars that they typically get for certain programs that was also factored in there. I mean, it's it's definitely you need an advocus and a space age calculator and everything to figure it out. But right, because why it's like, how did the Department of Information Technology get like seven hundred and thirty four million dollars and four years later they still haven't asked for ninety four percent of that money, Like what are we doing? Like because I have some ideas of where the money could go, Like didn't we hear about massive cost overruns with like the E filing system in the courts and that sort of thing, Like they're obviously the federal broadband money, Like that's been a that's been a campaign promise from Republicans and Democrats for years. So yeah, why isn't that money. I know, the money's still sitting there and they, I mean maybe it's sitting there because they have until December thirty first of next year to spend the actually spend the money. Otherwise it goes back to the US Treasury unless they get some sort of extension, which. Honestly, I'm okay with it going back to the US Treasury. I'm okay with that as well, because I mean, I know it's only what total, just under three billion dollars, But you know, if every state keeps three billion dollars that they should in otherwise that they're not using, then it tells me we didn't need the money and it should go back and maybe reduce our federal spending, which is just. You know, well, in a lot of these things. Also, you know, they were helpful for a certain period of time, but then you know clearly they're not being used any further. So the urgency's gone. And hi inflation, right, you know when we're sending out that kind of amount of money to the states and it's just sitting out there, right, you know that that's doing stuff to the dollar exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's devaluing it. Yeah, you're exactly right. You can read the report by ap Dylan at North State Journal nsjonline dot com. Also subscribe to her newsletter, it's called More to the Story over at substack. Ap. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it absolutely. Thank you. Take care. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. 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He says, pete three billion dollars sitting in a North Carolina state agency account at three percent return is ninety million a year in interest. What the heck? Multiply that by a bunch of other states with the same thing. Yeah, is that we're just we got three billion dollars in state agency accounts, that's just parked drawing interest. Is that? Is that the play? Is that the intent? Let's head over to the phone lines and chat with Nicole. Hello, Nicole, Welcome to the show. Hey, Pete, I got I think I've got a solution for the funding. Great. Well, you know me, Nicole, I am all about solutions. Well, you know, and I almost thought, as I believe with mister Brown, who's running Gonna brunt for the federal position. You know, all the money that Mecklenburg County gives to the illegal immigrants, space, all the cash in hand, the EBT cards, free housing, all the free medical, free you know, stuff that they don't give us actual citizens of Mecklenburg. They if they were to even take some of that back, it could easily fund the for the the jail and even police. I mean, they're giving Nexemberg County taxpayers. They're giving millions of dollars of free money to illegal ailien But you know, say, if you're a citizen, you have to work three times, it's hard to get anything. So part of the part of it is that the money is uh, it's it is sent out in the form of grants to these nonprofit organizations under you know, innocuous headings of uh, you know, community outreach or you know, improving health outcomes, stuff like that, and so they fund these third party NGOs essentially nonprofits. And that's what the n g os are, right. Right, they're passed their Yeah, they're passed through organizations to take the tax grant money and use it to then fund things that the local government doesn't want to fund and have you know, and have that publicized, or they don't know it's being funded. Either way, the result is the same, Nicole. I appreciate the call. And that does not count. By the way, the price of educating kids, building new schools to house more of the kids because of the Pliler v. Doo ruling years ago, that we have to anybody, you know, any kid that shows up gets a seat in the classroom kind of a thing. So, yeah, there's a lot, there's a there is a cost. There is a large cost. And by the way, here's one of the other things. If you remove the illegal alien population, then you don't have the same cost burden to provide all of these services that that goes away as well. So I mentioned that our sheriff Gary not my fault. McFadden put out a statement the other day, or I think, well, this may have been today, and I know this is I know this is picky, it's petty, but I say it every time because it's a waste of resources, my resources. When I print out his press releases, I waste probably about twenty percent of the page on green and gold ink. I waste another thirty percent of the page on a big photo of him and Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary L. McFadden working to influence change by being dot dot dot quote the difference end quote, working to influence change by being the difference. Like did Chad GPT give you that line? That is a that's just a silly slogan, but anyway, And then there's a logo from the Sheriff's office. Literally half the page is a waste of ink and a third of the page is him anyway, and it's a PDF, so you can't even do anything with it. Annoying, All right, here's the statement headline, CBP leaves Charlotte tangled in web of confusion, bitten with mistrust, filled with venomous fear. They're just really leaning into the whole spider thing. You know, he says, as we all know, the recent Customs and Border Patrol Charlotte's web operation created confusion, fear, and mistrust throughout Mecklenburg County. Yeah. No, I think it was the importation of tens of thousands of illegal aliens, many of whom, hundreds of whom had criminal records. I think that actually created the confusion, fear, and mistrust. See you, guys, you failed to recognize that there are competing interests at play here, and you just walk right past one side of this argument all the time. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. 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But let me be perfectly clear, the Mecklenberg County Sheriff's office played no role in causing that confusion, which he says was caused by CBP, which it actually wasn't. It was in fact caused by him. The fact that he ran on a platform back in twenty eighteen of refusing to cooperate with ICE, promising to scrap the two eighty seven G program, which is the program that allows local Sheriff's office detention officers to essentially get access to the ICE database. They're like, they become like they take a training class and stuff, and they become sort of a sworn official that has access then to the ICE database, and they can when somebody comes into the jail, they can identify that person based on the ICE database, and they can find out if the person is here illegally. ICE is then alerted and ICE can deport them. They can also find out if the person is wanted on like serious charges and such, right, which might actually play a role, and whether or not you release the person back out into the community. You know, somebody who's here illegally and you don't bother to confirm their actual identity. They give you some fake documents, you book them in under one name, and then you find out, oh, that's actually a sacario from a cartel. But you'ready let them go because you didn't know that, right, So it is actually his fault. He ran on the platform to scrap the two eighty seven G cooperation, and the first day when he won, he celebrated the scrapping of the two eighty seven G program with a cake that said two eighty seven G with a big red circle around it and a diagonal line through the word two eighty seven G. And then he cut the cake right through the two eighty seven G frosting. Okay, so this is what he ran on. And so this is a lie. The confusion and the fear and the mistrust and all of that, it is a direct result of you, sheriff. You you did this because had we not scrapped our compliance and cooperation with two eighty seven G, had we continued what your three Democrat predecessor sheriffs had done, had you just continued to do that, CBP would probably not have come to ten. CBP's operation is a result of your actions. He goes on to say, the only communication that the sheriff's office received regarding this activity was a brief heads up from federal officials that personnel would arrive on Saturday, November sixteenth. Our agency received a follow up message five days later that they would depart on Thursday the twentieth. Any other news that would be reported thereafter is false. So I'm assuming McFadden always with the thin skin. I'm assuming that he has gotten word from people, the community activists or something, that he's gotten word that he is somehow to blame, or he's implicated for cooperating with Ice or something, and so he wants to put that to rest. I had nothing to do with this. I support your right to break the law, is what he's saying. Don't look at me. I wasn't trying to round up illegal aliens in Mecklenburg County. I was opposed to the rounding up of criminal illegal aliens. Immigration, he says, didn't suddenly become an issue when CBP arrived in Charlotte. Our community has been grappling with immigration challenges since the day I took office in December twenty eighteen. Yet in the last several days, many people, including elected officials, advocates, and organizations, have shown more urgency than they have in the last several years. For those of us who have been continually fighting this fight, the struggle is not new. What's he talking about here? Now? When you first hear this, when I first read it, you might have concluded what I initially did was that he's talking about fighting illegal immigration. But he's not. He's talking about fighting immigration enforcement. That's what he's talking about. For those of us who have been fighting this fight, the struggle is not new. And to those who are just now realizing the weight of these issues, I welcome you to the conversation. Seekaus again. Always the hero or the victim, never the villain. He is the hero. He's been fighting this alone for so long, and now, thank goodness, people have finally woken up in there. They're harassing Customs and Border patrol officers who are doing their operation. They're they're swarming their facility, they're blocking them in traffic, they're videotaping their faces and doxing them online. Thank goodness, we now have fellow foot soldiers in the nullification insurrection, because that's what this is. It's nullification. It is local elected government officials who are trying to nullify and not enforce, not allowed to be enforced federal law. Nullification crisis, he says. And to those who are just now real I welcome you to the conversation. I welcome you to the fight. If this recent experience opened some eyes, then I hope you are fully aware now and woke to what our community has been facing all along. And he puts the word woke in quotes because ever the thin skin, he's very sensitive to being labeled as one of the woke sheriffs. He along with Quentin Miller up in Bunkhom County, I forget the other fellow's name out of Durham, another one in Wake County, and they all rode this. They rode this wave into office in twenty eighteen, this promise not to cooperate with ICE, and they got labeled the woke sheriffs because there's like four or five of them in the state and we got one hundred sheriffs. So this is what he's talking about, Like, this is not this struggle is not about illegal immigration enforcement. It's about enforcing our immigration laws. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with Ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I put the link in the podcast description too. I started using ground News a few months ago and more recently chose to work with them as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the left and the right. See for yourself check dot ground, dot news slash pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Let me first jump over to the phones here. I've got a little bit of audio I want to play. This is kind of a big day for me. I got a bit of a present today. I'll let you know what that's about in a minute. First, let me get over to Joseph. Hello, Joseph, welcome to the show. Hey, how you doing. Hey, I'm good taking my call. I'm a retired police officer, and it is not uncommon for local police officers and deputies to work with federal agencies on a limited basis. I worked with Homeland Security. I had two weeks of extra training, was sworn in, and I was human trafficking drugs and things like that. But US marshals have local officers that do it. The even so Secret Service we work with them on occasion during campaigns and so forth. Even on the local level, the ABC officers for North Carolina have local officers that work with them. So the thing that's happening with the sheriff's department is not that unusual. They're trained. It's been but it's been politicized, right. Right, Yeah, this was the law I was on the books for decades. And the former Democrat Mecklemberg sheriff Jim Penograph, he went to some sheriff conference or something years ago and was talking with some sheriff out of like Texas or something, and he told him about this two eighty seven G program. And when Penograph found out about it, he instituted it here and then was hired on by the Bush administration to travel the country and help other jurisdictions set up their own two eighty seven G programs. And it works well. And as far as us assisting the FED, which is ridiculous, I'd be like saying if a bank rob if a bank gets robbed and as a local police officer, I don't go because it's a federal crime. So you enforced the law. Right, Yeah, the bank robbery one is a perfect example because they're federal laws. But it's not like CMPD doesn't go and assist it's a bank robbery, Yeah, exactly. So it's no different with the sheriff's office. Yeah, Joseph, I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you for your service too. I appreciate it. Thank you all right, take care, yes, sir. From McFadden's press release, the way CBP conducted the operation highlights a critical truth that both local and federal law enforcement agencies cannot operate in silos. This is coming from the guy that created the silo. This is gaslighting. Don't whiz on my boots and tell me it's raining. You created the silo. You want them to give you all this information about their operations that they're going to be running. But you're the one that created the distance. You walled yourself off from ICE. You did that when you campaigned against cooperating with ICE, and then you dismantled the two eighty seven G program. In your jail, you refuse to pick up the phone and call ICE to let them know that you're about to release somebody. You force the state lawmakers to pass multiple bills to try to force you to drag you, kicking and screaming to a cooperative posture. You created the silo. Oh, it's just so annoying. Hate being gaslet, But I am too bright for it. By the way, New York Times in a story today, mister Biden allowed many migrants to enter the country temporarily as a way to incentivize them to avoid crossing the border illegally. Those people became eligible to work in the United States, receive Social Security numbers, and in some cases receive federal benefits. Just the casual acknowledgment of the very thing that we have been saying for the last six years, now, five years, that the New York Times now just admits it as like this is a huge scandal. They did it on purpose, all right. Let me jump over to this audio clip. This is a moment of personal privilege. If I might So this is a clip, a mashup, a montage, if you will, a couple of different conversations. US Senator Tom Tillis was on this morning. He was in studio with the Good Morning BT crew, and here's what they chatted about. At one point, let's move on, guys. I mean, my gosh, we need a little bit of adults in the room being a little bit more mature. Stop all this back and forth. This sort of amateurish or childish behavior at end, either end of the spectrum is not a vote tainer. What are you? Yes, very nice? Yes, hear that big calendar. Yes? Are you impressed? Are you optimistic or pessimistic about twenty twenty six? I think right now we've you know, you're you're always. Going to have a challenge in the in the year, the congressional elections after a new president's in place. But we've got to get serious about health care. We've got to get We've got to just calm down. I want to be the adults in the room. Let the Democrats continue to be the liberal you know, fanatics that some of them can be. But I'm watching the display up here earlier. I now know how to pronounce Afton Bay and spell her name, because I was in Middle Tennessee all weekend and there's ads running non stop. Republicans need to understand when you've got a district that's in play, or we may only win by single digits and Trump carried by twenty points. Pay attention, folks. You can learn from that. US Centator Tome tell us the time goes fast. We always appreciate you joining us. Thank you loved it. Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll be back tomorrow here on good morning. I'm votainer in. Yes, Yes, what have I talked about the preference cascade? People slowly at first, and then very quickly because Senator Tillis was in the studio and he saw that I had posted a sign up. Now. I posted that sign up last year, and it says new rule. Let me get my glasses on new rule. The word vote getter is banned. It is a terrible word that should die. Instead use the word votainer. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So I posted that up there to try to get people to start using the word votainer. It's been a slow slog, I will tell you, people, very slow. This has been like a decade that I've been promoting this word, I have gotten a couple of converts. It's still not in widespread use, though, but Senator Tillis was in here, and whatever you think about Senator till Us, it doesn't matter. The point is he used the word votainer. Now the real challenge is going to be will he continue to use it? Will he adopt it in you know, normal conversation, regular conversation, because that's how we win hearts and minds here. People do not use the term vote getter. It's awful, it's awkward, it sounds terrible. Votainer it's cleaner, it sounds better, makes sense slowly at first, then very quickly. That's how it's going to happen. People. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.