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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Last hour, we were talking about the ballot access rulings that came down in favor of RFK Jr. here in North Carolina, as well as Cornell West up in New York.
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: RFK Jr. lost, and that was over his declared legal residence.
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, like he's paying some friend 500 bucks for a room, and he's never there.
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the judge said, you don't actually live here.
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You live in your house in California where all your stuff and family and pets are.
[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So he lost that.
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to appeal.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Kevin had a comment about that.
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been waiting a little bit.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk to Kevin.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the program.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: How are you?
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey Pete, it's great to talk to you.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love the show.
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, sir.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was wondering why in federal elections or even state elections, your address isn't tied to where you pay your taxes.
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Why is your... say that again?
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You're wondering...
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: If you had a federal election, why wouldn't it be tied to where you pay your federal tax or if it's a state election to where you pay your state tax?
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because all elections, like for example, the presidential race, that is not a national election.
[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It is 50 state elections on the same day.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: States are the ones that administer the elections.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you had... so then we'll do it by the state.
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So let's say you paid your state taxes in California or wherever.
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't that be a way to tie them to that?
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so some states have income taxes.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Some states, you know, have property taxes.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But just because you own property doesn't mean that you live there.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? So you have to declare a residency.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's like... that's what you get to declare one permanent residence.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why...
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that has to happen on taxes, doesn't it?
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_04]: If you pay taxes, you have to declare a residency somewhere, right?
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I would think so, yeah.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that's also tied to your driver's license.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it seems to me that if they just...
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: if they could find people on January 6 inside a building really quick,
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: they could certainly find people who pay taxes and don't pay taxes and where they live.
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we need like a billion more IRS agents for that kind of operation.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Are we getting 77,000 from Malvine?
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Kev, I appreciate it.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, like this is the whole argument for voter ID.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's to connect the residence with the image of the person in front of you at the polling place.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it's always been.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Our entire system is based on voting where you live.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And when I say the entire system, I literally mean the whole system, right?
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: From the precinct to the city to the county to the district level to the states,
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: it's all tied to your residence.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we apportion the members of Congress, right?
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: This is how you know if a district is too big or too small by population.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: All of it is tied to residence.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: From the very beginning, from the founding of our country, it was tied to where we live.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And the driver's license serves that purpose to prove that you reside at the place you reside at
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and it is you.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a picture of you.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's some identifying information about you, like your birth date and a signature.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they still do.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we still sign the driver's license?
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll check during the...
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Hang on a second.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me check right now.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me bust out my driver's license here.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: My New York...
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just kidding.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there it is right there.
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Got a signature right there.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's digital so you can't really make it out.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the whole point.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Who is LaFonza Butler?
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: What does that even mean?
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Donna.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show.
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you?
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm good.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It just occurred to me because I remember this shenanigans were happening a couple of years back
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: when Feinstein was about to expire.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And Newsom picked this chick from Maryland to fill her seat.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: LaFonza Butler.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So what's going on with that?
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not a senator now, though.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody else got the gig, right?
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but she was temporarily filling Feinstein's seat while we were waiting for her to go.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And she was from Maryland.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this has happened.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: North Carolina...
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't gaslight me anymore.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody can.
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So I remember stuff and I remember that.
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, just keep it...
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Just stay on guard, Donna.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Not being gaslit.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta be on guard that that doesn't just automatically make your default to be disbelief in everything.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: What I'm saying is that they can't...
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: How could they do it to one and not the other?
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So like it's bogus.
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they're doing is shenanigans.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Donna, correct.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the call.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I totally forgotten about LaFonza Butler.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I probably had some fun with that name too.
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Knowing me as I do, that sounds like something I would totally do.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Matt says, Pete, don't be surprised if Democrats do an about-face on RFK Jr.'s ballot access.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that Biden is out and the Democrats have coalesced around Kamala, polls actually show RFK hurting Trump more in a multi-candidate race.
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: More lefty holdouts have now rallied to Kamala, whereas otherwise conservative-leaning RFK voters have not budged.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Now it helps Democrats, not hurts them, to have RFK running.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's possible.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So Jan says, Pete Calliner is humble.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would say that when it comes to humility, you are full of it.
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: John says, the guy who wanted to tie where you pay state taxes to where you vote.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Some people pay more than one state tax.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: For instance, NFL players have to file a state income tax for every state they play a game in, and that's why they all have accountants.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people don't realize that too.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: If you are an NFL player and you play for the Carolina Panthers, you've got eight away games during the season.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Wherever those games are, you have to pay the income tax for that game.
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So they take your salary and they divide it out by the number of games that you're playing every year, and then you would owe taxes on that portion in whatever state you went to.
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why these guys love to play in Florida, because they don't pay any income tax on their games, on their salary.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're paying in multiple places.
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's about residency.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The taxation issue, it's I think a secondary issue, because all of the states have different taxation methods.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Although in the end, it's always the same.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a balloon.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a filled up balloon and you can squeeze one end and the other side will get fatter and you can squeeze the fat side to make it get smaller.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But then the other side that you were squeezing, it gets fatter.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're just moving the air around, you know.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And so some states, they don't have income tax, but what they make up for it with other taxes like property taxes or sales taxes.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: North Carolina, before the Republicans took over, North Carolina was like all of the above.
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll have high taxes and sales and income and property, all of it, man.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll do all of the taxation.
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the Republicans came in and started reducing the income tax rates.
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The Democrats and media, but I repeat myself, claimed that this was going to create Armageddon.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: There would be this complete apocalypse and bankruptcy of the state.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they were wrong.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We actually ended up with massive budget surpluses, paid off debt early, all of that.
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But yet for some reason, they still make these same economic arguments that have been debunked over and over again.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They keep making these arguments and media keep amplifying them.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, I am talking specifically about the Budget and Tax Policy Center.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They still go to those people for quotes like you guys have been wrong about everything for 20 years.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a message on Twitter.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a tweet from Russ who says,
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I would be in favor of voting tied to taxes.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I live in South Carolina, but I have a business across the line in North Carolina.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to have a say in the elections that affect my livelihood and not just the ones that affect my residence.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody should be able to vote in all jurisdictions where they pay income, business or property taxes.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: One vote per office like president, statewide offices, of course.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But you should be able to vote in every office or on every office in every jurisdiction that gets to tax you.
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What about sales tax?
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Could I vote in every place that I get charged a sales tax?
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I take a road trip, do I get to vote in every place along the way?
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm on board with that idea, Russ.
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go over here to Spencer.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he wants to talk about something from the first hour.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Spencer.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Back to the light rail.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sure. Why not?
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever been to Munich?
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_06]: No.
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever been to Oslo?
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever been to Seattle?
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_06]: No.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever been to Memphis?
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, like you can...
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_06]: What do they do?
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. I was going to say, like, if you just keep listing places, I'm just going to keep saying no because I've not been to many, many places.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_06]: What they do in those places is they don't try to pay for right of ways.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_06]: They use the right of way that they already own.
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is the city street.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And so they don't bat an eyelid about putting a light rail line right down a narrow city street.
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Except for Memphis.
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Memphis, Tennessee has an extensive light rail system on city streets, but they've spent all their money on other things so they can't afford to train cars.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So they just got the tracks.
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so it works, it sounds like then. That's why there's no exit.
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, in Munich they have an extensive light rail and it goes right down the city streets and they stop at stop signs, they stop at street lights.
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_06]: They go by DMV traffic rules.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And it works fine.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_06]: If these people in the city, county government would quit trying to do it on right of ways that they need to buy, they might be able to pull something off.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They still have to build it.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It might end up like Memphis.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, exactly.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Spencer, I appreciate the call.
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the thing is they have to raise the money to pay for the construction and the purchase of the train cars regardless.
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what they're trying to decide on now.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you are interested in that topic, that was the first hour of the program.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: People on social media believe Donald Trump speaking last night with Elon Musk that he had a lisp or a slurring during the conversation.
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really an interview.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've watched podcasts, episodes on the YouTube and such.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a conversation.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a couple of people sitting around talking about some stuff.
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we saw last night or heard last night on Twitter.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They have this thing they called spaces.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kidding.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's called spaces.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And people get on there.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's basically like a radio.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's basically radio where people can create a space and they come in there and they talk.
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And then other people can go in there also and listen to the conversation as it unfolds live.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And so Twitter, you'll recall, did this with Governor Ron DeSantis when he announced he was going to run for president.
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And Twitter crashed.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember?
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So many people wanted to join the spaces and Twitter couldn't handle it.
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it happened again last night.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Although Elon Musk says that the reason why it went down was because of a DDoS attack.
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: DDoS attack, which is like you just keep sending – it's a hack attack basically.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hackers, spammers, whatever.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: People, they go in and they launch these attacks in order to shut down a website.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's what happened.
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There are people that say that that is not what happened.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's start with Newsweek.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, let's start here.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: This is – I have two clips.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay?
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: One clip is from the Twitter spaces recording.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the second clip was taken in the room where Donald Trump was conducting the conversation, where he was.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So somebody is – they got their smartphone up and they're recording on that side.
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're shooting a video.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the second clip.
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do a comparison here.
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Lispgate 2024 as it has now been dubbed by me.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the first clip.
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: With so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that sounds very Sylvester-ish, you know?
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Sylvester the Cat.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Or the other one – I think there's another one that's got that kind of a speech impediment.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, first clip.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Silencing of – okay.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So here is the second clip.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This was from somebody in the room with Trump.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They were recording at this very same time.
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get the whole clip, so it's a little bit shorter.
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think we will.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure we will.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I played the first clip an extra time there.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I apologize! Real professional, Pete.
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You can tell the difference in the audio quality, because one is obviously in the room.
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to play this again.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen for the lisping.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think we will. I'm pretty sure we will.
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to tell you, the S in so many, it does kind of sound lispish.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: The record in the book with so many millions of people.
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: What does that sound?
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: With so many millions of people.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So, so many? Is he? I can't tell, but I do know at the beginning of the clip here, he doesn't sound like he is lisping or slurring or whatever it's being described as.
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think we will. I'm pretty sure we will.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure we will.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's an honor. It's.
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, again, here's clip number two.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think we will. I'm pretty sure we will.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people, and that's an honor.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We view that as an honor.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He says the reference to the silencing of certain voices.
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a reference to the DDoS attack.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The BBC, which was live blogging the chat at the time, recorded more than 20,000 posts with the term slurring.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump spokesman Stephen Chung told the British network, quote, it must be your hearing.
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The Harris campaign also posted about it, quoting a section of the conversation about climate change.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump slurring says he's OK with climate change and rising sea levels because he thinks he'll have more oceanfront property.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, that was a joke of his that he made.
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Several podcasters and streamers say the strange audio effect is likely from compression, a process where data that is deemed unnecessary is often removed to reduce the size of the audio file.
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes this process ends up removing or altering important parts of the audio, resulting in distortions.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Digital and TV streaming reporter Spencer Allen Brooks said, quote, the Trump audio is no good.
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like he has a lisp, bad microphone, terrible audio compression.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Multiple people cited a separate video clip of Trump speaking on the phone to Musk.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. That's what I just played. The second clip.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: On the D.D.O.S. attack that stands for distributed denial of service, D.D.O.S., that typically sends vast amounts of traffic to a platform server in the hopes of temporarily knocking it offline.
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: When Musk finally so they were delayed like 40 minutes and when they come back, when they finally are able to launch it, that's when he says that there was a massive attack.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And it illustrates there's a lot of opposition to just hearing what President Trump has to say.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Trump is referring to about the millions of people that that that don't want to hear us in this conversation.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, by the way, that includes a European tyrant with the European Union, a European Union commissioner for the internal market, a guy by the name of Theory Britton or Britain, whatever.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But also, what's his name? Cleve Cleve Wooten.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He used to work at the Charlotte Observer and now he's at the Washington Post.
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a clip of him at the White House daily briefing from yesterday.
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark says it sounds to me like maybe he used to have a stutter. That might be the problem.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's yeah, that could be it. It could be a stutter.
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That he overcame and then.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me play this clip real quick of Cleve Wooten.
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That conversation last night might not have happened if Cleve Wooten, the authoritarian Washington Post guy, formerly Charlotte Observer, had his way.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to this softball toss up to Caringe Jean-Pierre at the White House press briefing.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Elon Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tomorrow tonight on X.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if the president is going to feel free to say if he is or not.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think that misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a it's an American issue.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_08]: What role does the White House or the president have in sort of stopping that or stopping the spread of that?
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_08]: What are sort of inter intervening in that?
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Some of that was about campaign misinformation.
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey, how about this?
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to channel my inner Tim Walz.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Mind your own damn business.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: How about that? Right.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: How about that, Clevey?
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He spells it, Clevey, Wooten, Wootan.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The white what is what role does the White House have?
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: None. They've got none. Zero.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No role whatsoever.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's some guys talking on Twitter, man.
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Good Lord.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go to the phones.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Brian. Welcome to the program.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, what's up? Hey, man.
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice to hear from you.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, listen, I watched it last night.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm an old video audio guy.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Grew up in the analog world.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Analog audio is warmer and richer.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And add to that and every all the compression issues are correct.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But the slur thing and the lisping thing doesn't bother me that much because when you're when you're trying to preserve bandwidth like that, you have to lower the bit rate.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Lower the you the compression rate.
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And so it gets weird.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It gets and then and then you add to that.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He had some kind of a Bluetooth device on his lapel.
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if that little cheap fifty dollar Bluetooth device was paired to his phone.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But when you add that kind of little cheap microphone to the scenario, anything goes right.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, no big deal.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying I don't understand why it's a big deal.
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the left is going to look for anything they can to make him look stupid or bad.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And my question for Elon was, why aren't you doing a three camera live shot?
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Why isn't it three cameras switched live to Twitter to rumble to somebody to look at it?
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's the big question for me in twenty twenty four.
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Live streaming and pictures is really a really a cool concept.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, that's all I'm going to say about that.
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I hear you, Brian. I appreciate the call.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's good insight.
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Phil.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Phil. Welcome to the show.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Pete, my favorite guy.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like a very common phenomenon with humans, young and old.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounded to me like the mic was picking up Trump eating a peppermint.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, that's I have not heard the peppermint theory, the lone peppermint.
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I was I walked out here and I was listening to it.
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, dang, man, you don't need to be eating candy while you're on a microphone.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it sounded like, though.
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, have you ever talked somebody up?
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I generally want to run around in their mouth.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, I generally prefer to talk to people with minty breath versus those without.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he just ate some garlic.
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's possible.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know either. That's that's a fair that's a fair guess as well.
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw somebody else say that he was if you look at the video, he's leaning over the phone.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Sitting on one of those charger plates.
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen those things where you just set your phone on it?
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to plug the phone in.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's like a plate and you just set the phone on it.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the charger plate is plugged in itself, which to me kind of defeats the whole purpose.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But whatever. He's got a sitting on one of those plates so it doesn't lose charge during the entire conversation.
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's sitting down at a desk or at a table and he's sort of leaning over.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That might have also caused some of the issue like the saliva would then kind of I don't want to get too gross, but it could kind of go to the front of the mouth.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's what caused it. I don't know.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. Meanwhile, the European Commission, a European commissioner, theory Breton, basically threatened Elon Musk saying you better not allow any misinformation or disinformation.
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to like come after you and your business for this conversation.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Sent out this letter ahead of time.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a lengthy letter, but it's a threat.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a threat against Musk.
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And the European Commission came out about a couple of hours ago and said he did not have permission to write that letter from us.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That was not us. That was just him.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So they are they're disavowing any kind of involvement in the letter.
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: All right. That'll do it for this episode.
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