Limited government, hate donuts, & rolling cheese (05-28-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] Let us start off the hour here with Joe calling about, uh, I went on a bit of a rant at the

[00:00:34] end of the last hour there about limited government.

[00:00:37] And Joe has called in in response to this topic.

[00:00:39] Hello, Joe.

[00:00:40] Yes, sir.

[00:00:41] Good, good afternoon, Pete.

[00:00:42] Pete, what I want to know is after, if we go back 80 or more years and looking at limited

[00:00:50] government, after we've had to make such corrections of limited government due to the abusers of

[00:00:57] limited government, what's going to make limited government work now in 2024?

[00:01:03] So let's, uh, let's pick something specific.

[00:01:06] What are the abuses of limited government?

[00:01:08] Okay, then let's not, let's not pretend we don't, we never took high school history.

[00:01:15] Uh, if you go into the sixties, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, all

[00:01:22] of these states had state and local Jim Crow and other segregated measures that punished

[00:01:32] some citizens and gave other privileges to others.

[00:01:38] Um, okay, so that's how the things were supported by state and local limited government.

[00:01:44] No, so, okay.

[00:01:45] All right.

[00:01:46] So first off, a couple of things going on.

[00:01:48] Number one, a limited government, a limited government at all level, every single level

[00:01:54] means that a government that is restrained by the law, right?

[00:02:00] So that's the first thing to keep in mind, restrained by the law.

[00:02:02] You don't get to just kind of make stuff up as you're going along.

[00:02:05] It's got to comply with the law and in the, uh, the federalism model, the laws that were

[00:02:11] being violated at the state and local levels, right?

[00:02:15] Those, the laws that existed at the federal level do apply.

[00:02:20] And that was the, so what you saw was the application of those laws of the rule of law,

[00:02:26] right?

[00:02:27] The, I would submit to you that it was not that Jim Crow was not a result of limited

[00:02:31] government.

[00:02:32] It was in fact the opposite.

[00:02:34] It was in fact government that broke through, that broke its boundaries and, and uh, and

[00:02:40] abused people in violation of the law, which is eventually what did occur, right?

[00:02:45] That's what the, that's what was overturned with all of the court rulings.

[00:02:51] You're exactly right.

[00:02:52] And many Southern leaders at that time used the phrase limited government.

[00:02:59] You Northerners stay out of our business.

[00:03:01] Washington stay out of our business.

[00:03:04] We handle our situations down here in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi.

[00:03:09] We take care of our own.

[00:03:10] Stay out of our business.

[00:03:11] This is our limited...

[00:03:12] They use the term limited government.

[00:03:16] So when you hear that dog whistle, limited government, it rings the bell of history in

[00:03:23] the minds of many.

[00:03:25] And so that's why I asked the question, what's going to make it work today?

[00:03:29] You have to have people that are willing to follow the rule of law and are willing to

[00:03:33] hold all people to the rule of law.

[00:03:37] And that's why we have a law against committing murder.

[00:03:43] That's not why we have a law against committing murder, but yeah, you have to, you've got

[00:03:46] to hold people accountable if they, yeah.

[00:03:48] If they are accused of and charged with committing murder, then yes, you hold people the same,

[00:03:54] right?

[00:03:55] Under the eyes of the law.

[00:03:57] Yeah.

[00:03:58] And Pete, I really appreciate the measure in which you're trying to present the case, but

[00:04:04] I really and truly do not feel that today's human condition is set up to really take another

[00:04:11] look at limited government because I still think that we have some abusive measures that

[00:04:19] will be exercised.

[00:04:20] So, all right.

[00:04:21] So let me ask, let me ask this, Joe.

[00:04:24] When I use the term limited government, I will be completely honest in all of my reading

[00:04:28] of all of the Jim Crow history, because I wasn't alive during that period.

[00:04:32] I have never heard the term limited government used.

[00:04:34] You say it's a dog whistle.

[00:04:35] I have no idea if that's true.

[00:04:36] I know people throw the term dog whistle around in order to accuse people of motivated

[00:04:42] arguments that they're not actually making.

[00:04:45] But I'm going to set all of that aside and I'm going to ask whether you believe that

[00:04:49] when I talk about limited government, I am talking about constraining government.

[00:04:54] And when I say constraining government, I'm talking about every single level of government.

[00:05:00] That's what limiting government is.

[00:05:03] I would love that.

[00:05:05] I would love government out of my pocket.

[00:05:07] I'd love government out of my taxes.

[00:05:11] But the human ill of it, though, is there are going to be some that are going to take

[00:05:19] that limited government, just like in Tennessee.

[00:05:22] You got the Tennessee three that are fighting tooth and nail against the majority of those

[00:05:28] legislators against crazy things that are being passed that are disenfranchising many

[00:05:35] citizens in Tennessee.

[00:05:37] And so when you have those mindsets in the state and local government, it's kind of hard

[00:05:46] to take the whole cloth of the premise of what you're stating.

[00:05:53] Limited government, by definition, what you're saying is wonderful.

[00:05:57] But I don't think we have the human condition and human soul to be free, fair and right

[00:06:06] to all.

[00:06:07] No, free.

[00:06:08] The word you're looking for is free.

[00:06:10] That's that's what you're that's what you're expressing doubt about as to whether or not

[00:06:14] people can be trusted to freely govern themselves and and by extension, not abuse others outside

[00:06:24] of the bounds of government or use government to abuse others.

[00:06:27] And this is this is the whole point here, which is that when when people take control

[00:06:31] and I made this argument in the last hour about people on the right who now they're

[00:06:36] like, oh, I'm for limited government.

[00:06:37] Yeah, I want less government.

[00:06:39] And then as soon as they get into control of the government, they're like, OK, now I'm

[00:06:43] not so good with like dismantling these programs.

[00:06:46] OK, I want to keep this stuff in place because they want to use it for what they want to

[00:06:50] use it for.

[00:06:51] Well, that's not that's not for limiting government.

[00:06:54] Right. That's that's for keeping the government the same size with the expectation

[00:07:00] that you'll get to control it and then you'll get to abuse others or or provide

[00:07:04] preferential treatment for your own.

[00:07:06] And that is a that is a sentiment that is expressed on both sides.

[00:07:10] Democrats and Republicans both have the same views.

[00:07:14] And that's sort of the libertarian premise, which is to say dismantle these programs and

[00:07:19] let people be free and get government out of all of these different areas.

[00:07:25] And people have to be willing to say no when it's their side that's in power.

[00:07:30] And until recently, probably within the last 20 years, the Republicans were the party

[00:07:36] that made that argument that if we trusted them, they would dismantle, especially at

[00:07:42] the federal level, they would dismantle some of these programs.

[00:07:45] And they have not done so.

[00:07:47] They have failed. Democrats don't even promise that.

[00:07:52] On paper, I totally agree with you.

[00:07:54] Yeah, but but but as I follow the battles of the Tennessee three and what they're

[00:08:00] having to deal with, with the state of Tennessee and their state leadership.

[00:08:05] I just see I just see case study after case study happening from state to state, that

[00:08:11] that's the kind of stuff that's going to continue.

[00:08:13] What exactly is the Tennessee three?

[00:08:15] And these are, by the way, for folks who don't know, these are the three lawmakers

[00:08:18] that got themselves arrested and kicked out of the legislature.

[00:08:22] But then they returned, I believe.

[00:08:24] Correct. Because they because they led an insurrection into the statehouse.

[00:08:29] OK, now that term you said that's kind of tossed around that I used that you said is

[00:08:36] a dog whistle. It's kind of tossed around loosely.

[00:08:39] Insurrection is in the same bag.

[00:08:42] You think that's a strong term?

[00:08:44] Too strong of a term?

[00:08:45] Too strong of a term.

[00:08:46] What would you call what happened on J6?

[00:08:51] On J6, I would characterize that as an insurrection.

[00:08:54] OK, see, so here's the here's the thing.

[00:08:56] See, Joe, here's here's here's what I'm talking about.

[00:08:58] This is this is a microcosm of what I was just going through about how when it's your

[00:09:02] team, it's your side, you're willing to say it's this thing.

[00:09:05] You're willing to be OK with certain things.

[00:09:07] But when it's the other team or other side, it's not.

[00:09:09] And this is a good example of it.

[00:09:10] I view what occurred in Tennessee as the same sort of thing.

[00:09:14] I can call it a riot, right, because that's what I call J6.

[00:09:18] I call it a riot. But it's the same thing.

[00:09:20] You're in your you're storming a legislative hall.

[00:09:23] And by the way, this same thing happened in North Carolina a decade ago with the Moral

[00:09:26] Monday movement. And they were doing the same sort of stuff.

[00:09:29] And they were they were stopping power from being exercised because they disagreed with

[00:09:35] the policies because they lost elections.

[00:09:37] Right. And I understand that's frustrating.

[00:09:39] You lose elections. You can't affect change.

[00:09:42] And you're living in a state where you are in the minority and so you can't get stuff

[00:09:46] done. I totally understand that.

[00:09:48] But when you go in and you disrupt the official proceedings of the lawmaking process, the

[00:09:53] legislative process, that to me is now over a certain line.

[00:09:58] And if you want to call insurrection on J6, then I would call Tennessee the same thing.

[00:10:04] But if you don't want to call it that, you just want to call it a riot or a storming

[00:10:06] the legislature or whatever.

[00:10:08] OK, fine. Then what I'll do is I'll take a look.

[00:10:13] Let's take a look at the body counts of both sides.

[00:10:16] OK. All right. So how many.

[00:10:18] All right. So how much. So, OK.

[00:10:19] Who was killed on January 6th?

[00:10:22] Who was killed on January 6th?

[00:10:25] What's the body count?

[00:10:25] There were. OK.

[00:10:28] The young lady was one.

[00:10:30] Right. And I was shot by.

[00:10:32] Yes, she was shot. She was shot by a Capitol Hill police officer.

[00:10:36] Right. Uh-huh.

[00:10:37] Doing his job. OK, let's go to Tennessee.

[00:10:40] No, I killed there.

[00:10:41] Were there other people?

[00:10:43] Were there other people killed on J6?

[00:10:46] No, you are focused on that one.

[00:10:48] OK. Well, OK.

[00:10:49] All right. But Joe, you said body count.

[00:10:52] So I was doing a body count.

[00:10:54] So, I mean, forgive me, but you said a body count.

[00:10:56] So I thought you wanted to have the whole body count and all of the other people that

[00:10:59] died of heart attacks and stuff.

[00:11:00] Let's let's go tit for tat.

[00:11:02] So now how many died in Tennessee?

[00:11:04] None that I'm aware of.

[00:11:06] There you go. Well, there I go.

[00:11:07] What? What does that prove?

[00:11:08] But what is that? What does what does that one?

[00:11:11] One was a violent insurrection.

[00:11:13] The other one was a protest.

[00:11:15] One was a violent insurrection and one was a protest only because a person died.

[00:11:21] How about because the person died?

[00:11:23] I would not. I don't think their family would look at it as only a person died.

[00:11:28] Right. OK, so how about this?

[00:11:30] So Joe, what the young lady did.

[00:11:32] No, no. So Joe, I know I know her family.

[00:11:34] Yeah. So how about the how about the the Black Lives Matter protests, violent

[00:11:39] insurrection or protest?

[00:11:42] How many died? A lot.

[00:11:44] A lot died. A lot.

[00:11:47] Now that I have to investigate because.

[00:11:50] Are you serious?

[00:11:51] A lot a lot of people died.

[00:11:54] Are you kidding me right now?

[00:11:56] You've not heard of a single casualty from any of the Black Lives Matter summer of

[00:11:59] fiery but mostly peaceful protesting.

[00:12:02] What I'm going to do when I get home.

[00:12:04] OK, I'm going to research how many people died in the BLM protest.

[00:12:10] All right, cool. Joe, I appreciate that.

[00:12:12] No, that's good. I appreciate that.

[00:12:13] You give me a call back. I got to run.

[00:12:14] I'm way late for the traffic break.

[00:12:16] I appreciate the call from Joe.

[00:12:18] I enjoy having discussions with people that I don't agree with and because as

[00:12:23] Dennis Prager always says, I do not require agreement, I do require clarity.

[00:12:28] Right. That's and that's what I try to get at.

[00:12:32] With people that I disagree with on a particular issue, and I got a message here

[00:12:36] from Bob, who says Caller Joe does not even perceive his filters.

[00:12:44] Right, and that's and look, this is a difficult thing for all of us, right?

[00:12:48] We have blind spots.

[00:12:50] You don't know what you don't know.

[00:12:52] People aren't experts in all sorts of subject material, obviously, I mean, except

[00:12:57] me and.

[00:12:58] You know, no, but seriously, I.

[00:13:01] I don't I don't read Bob's email.

[00:13:05] To attack Joe, it's just that first the first thing is you have to accept.

[00:13:11] The truism that Bob expressed there, which is that we have filters and we see

[00:13:18] things and hear things differently.

[00:13:21] And once you recognize that you have filters, well, then the next step is to

[00:13:26] say, OK, well, what filters am I running all of this stuff through?

[00:13:31] Am I running it through something that's just going to, you know, sift out anything

[00:13:36] that disagrees with me?

[00:13:38] Am I going to sit and think about, OK, what is it that you're going to look at?

[00:13:43] Because the insurrection argument.

[00:13:47] Four years, right, you've had four we've all had four years to stew over this and

[00:13:53] like I view what occurred not as an insurrection, but as a violent protest.

[00:14:00] And I also view it.

[00:14:01] And by the way, that's not how I initially saw it the way I initially saw it,

[00:14:06] because at the time I was watching a Governor Cooper press conference on the

[00:14:09] culvits. The quote John Moore.

[00:14:13] Now I was watching a covid press conference or whatever, and all of a sudden

[00:14:15] I like I log a log out of the U.S.

[00:14:20] Like I log a log out of the YouTube, you know, and all of a sudden I look over

[00:14:25] and it's like, holy smokes, what the heck's going on?

[00:14:27] And it looks like people are storming the Capitol.

[00:14:30] Hang Mike Pence and.

[00:14:33] Stop the stop, the transfer of the peaceful transfer of power, and by the way,

[00:14:38] there were people who were trying to do that, the vast majority of them were not.

[00:14:42] And the police acted the Capitol Hill police the way they behaved.

[00:14:48] They incited a lot of that violent response.

[00:14:50] But here's the thing to me, the key is that the protest did not happen in a vacuum.

[00:14:56] It wasn't in isolation.

[00:14:58] Right. This is.

[00:15:02] Twenty twenty and what had we seen the whole year prior?

[00:15:07] Well, the very thing I asked Joe about the Black Lives Matter protests, billions

[00:15:14] and billions of dollars in damage around the country.

[00:15:22] I got some messages here, a couple of folks saying

[00:15:26] twenty five Americans killed during the protests, according to The Guardian.

[00:15:31] That's from Will. Thank you.

[00:15:37] Jennifer says from Wikipedia, 19 people dead by the end of June 2020,

[00:15:42] 14000 arrested.

[00:15:44] 19 dead. So what?

[00:15:47] Two dozen roughly during these protests, not to mention all of the people that got

[00:15:52] covid because they were not socially distancing and not wearing masks at the time.

[00:15:56] Now they all wear masks.

[00:15:57] But when Covid was running rampant through the streets.

[00:16:01] You know, no masks.

[00:16:04] And you can make any argument you want about whether it was righteous,

[00:16:10] justified at this city in reaction to this killing or whatever.

[00:16:15] All of that stuff is irrelevant to me in the context of this description

[00:16:21] of what it is that we're looking at when we're looking at it.

[00:16:23] What is the purpose of this?

[00:16:24] And when you look at what the what the animation is behind the BLM protest

[00:16:30] and the violence and Antifa infiltrating all of these sites, attacking a federal

[00:16:37] courthouse, laying siege to it for over 30 days.

[00:16:41] I don't know if you get to call that something different because you kind of agreed

[00:16:46] with what they were doing, you know, like I'm not saying they should have done it

[00:16:50] to quote the philosopher Chris Rock.

[00:16:52] But I understand, right?

[00:16:53] If that's your argument.

[00:16:55] Then that's an inconsistency, right?

[00:16:58] And now maybe you see that and that filter doesn't exist, that you recognize,

[00:17:03] OK, you know what?

[00:17:03] I'm holding an inconsistent position because it's my team.

[00:17:06] Because it's my team.

[00:17:07] At least that's honest.

[00:17:10] So there you go.

[00:17:14] All right, so a couple of messages here, Russ says Jim Crow era laws are the

[00:17:19] opposite of limited government.

[00:17:21] That is correct.

[00:17:25] And he says you are on to something with your habitual liar's hypothesis.

[00:17:29] I have a minor in psychology.

[00:17:31] A professor said a minor is just enough to make you think you're crazy.

[00:17:35] A bachelor's will make you think everyone else is crazy and a master's and beyond

[00:17:39] will make you think you can fix crazy.

[00:17:42] Oh, that's interesting.

[00:17:43] Anyway, we talked about habitual liars in brain development and you remember

[00:17:47] what's most important or what you worked hardest for.

[00:17:51] It takes more effort to make a lie than to recount what happened.

[00:17:56] So eventually your brain, even without cognitive decline, shelves the truth

[00:18:01] and prioritizes the lies.

[00:18:04] Interesting.

[00:18:10] This is from the hellion who says I wonder if they humor people like Robert

[00:18:13] De Niro and let him do things like this press conference he did today to not have

[00:18:21] the money stop.

[00:18:23] You got to wonder what percent any celebrity endorsement of anything works on

[00:18:27] anyone.

[00:18:30] And then says, I'd say I'd say far more than 50 percent of the national fights we

[00:18:36] have probably aren't even necessary.

[00:18:38] That's really what's been lost in civics education.

[00:18:41] Yeah, I agree.

[00:18:45] Then there's a message here from Nathaniel who says, are you saying I love when

[00:18:52] people say that to me whenever just a rule of thumb when somebody starts off an

[00:18:56] argument by saying or a response in a debate by saying, are you saying usually

[00:19:00] the answer is no.

[00:19:02] All right.

[00:19:02] There it's usually an attempt to twist what you said into saying something else

[00:19:07] that makes you sound worse and fits their argument.

[00:19:10] That's usually how that goes.

[00:19:11] OK, so let me let me read the are you saying that the violence of January 6th is

[00:19:15] the same as what happened in Tennessee?

[00:19:18] Did I say that was did I make that because that's not even the same thing.

[00:19:23] No, I asked, was it an insurrection?

[00:19:25] He said and then and caller Joe said J6 was a violent insurrection and he said

[00:19:31] the Tennessee.

[00:19:34] Protest was just a protest, right, and I said that the J6 was a violent protest, a

[00:19:40] protest that turned violent, you could even call that a protest that turned into

[00:19:44] a riot, it devolved into a riot, and a lot of that was because of the actions of

[00:19:50] the Capitol Hill police.

[00:19:53] You can have a different opinion, that's my opinion, that's what I saw happen and

[00:19:57] reading through all of the the reports of it and the videos and all of that stuff.

[00:20:02] Yeah, that's my assessment of what occurred.

[00:20:05] And if you want to call that a violent insurrection, I'm curious what you call

[00:20:08] these other attempts to disrupt legislative proceedings, because that's what the left

[00:20:14] has been doing in state capitals and at the federal courthouse in Seattle in the

[00:20:18] Chazz Chop. I mean, honestly, you take a look at like the definition of insurrection

[00:20:23] in the Chazz Chop checks every box.

[00:20:26] Right, the autonomous zone in Seattle, the Capitol Hill, but it's not Capitol

[00:20:31] Hill. It's like the other one, they have one called it's yeah, in Seattle, it's

[00:20:35] called Capitol Hill and they called it the CHAZ.

[00:20:38] Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

[00:20:41] And they claimed to be there, they claimed autonomy.

[00:20:45] Which means what?

[00:20:47] They overthrew the local government and the federal government, that's what they

[00:20:51] claimed. I'm not sure.

[00:20:54] I'm not sure you could have a clearer example of that than the Chazz Chop.

[00:20:59] And then that was attempted to be replicated in various locales.

[00:21:04] And most recently, with all the Israel protests going on campus, they keep calling

[00:21:08] themselves autonomous zones.

[00:21:09] What do you think that means? It means they do not recognize any governing law in

[00:21:15] their zone. They're in charge.

[00:21:17] Look, they've got the vests.

[00:21:19] Right. Look at me. I got my Walmart reflective vest.

[00:21:22] I'm in charge.

[00:21:27] So, no, I did not say they that is the same.

[00:21:30] They are they are different things in the same category.

[00:21:35] They are protests. One was allowed to get out of hand.

[00:21:38] One turned violent and another.

[00:21:42] Shut down the legislative body and they had to make arrests and that sort of stuff.

[00:21:46] But you had people that were the Tennessee three, right?

[00:21:50] The lawmakers, right.

[00:21:52] They were there fomenting the disruption.

[00:21:55] That's why they got kicked out of office.

[00:21:59] You don't get to do that. You're not allowed to.

[00:22:01] It's against the rules. And of course, they got put back in place because the rules

[00:22:04] don't freaking matter when it's your team.

[00:22:06] Right. There is a manhunt right now underway for the the creator.

[00:22:16] Of hate donuts.

[00:22:19] I'm not sure people are aware that the manhunt is underway.

[00:22:24] I mean, it's coming out of Florida, but.

[00:22:27] The the hate donut creator, it could possibly be here.

[00:22:31] We know they have transportation.

[00:22:33] OK, we know that these the individual or individuals, we know they've got

[00:22:37] transportation because they created the hate donut hot air dot com piece by

[00:22:44] David Strom, quote.

[00:22:46] Yet another manhunt for a person who defaced a pride flag.

[00:22:51] Painted at an intersection in St.

[00:22:53] Petersburg, Florida.

[00:22:55] So, OK, first off, it's not even a pride flag, OK?

[00:22:57] It's the crosswalks and they just painted rainbow stripes.

[00:23:01] That's not the pride flag.

[00:23:03] I don't think I don't think that counts.

[00:23:05] And there he also calls it a mural.

[00:23:07] I don't think you get to call it a mural either.

[00:23:10] Right. They're just stripes.

[00:23:11] Look, I know I've been pretty hard on.

[00:23:16] What passes for what is what is, you know, described as art when GovCo pays

[00:23:22] for it, I don't believe it's article art by explanation, this is not art, but

[00:23:26] I think we have to draw the line someplace here, people, and I think

[00:23:28] murals that are just simply stripes on an intersection.

[00:23:33] I don't think that counts as a mural.

[00:23:35] I don't think it counts as a flag.

[00:23:36] I don't think it counts as art.

[00:23:38] You just painted you just painted colors.

[00:23:39] You just painted you just painted colors.

[00:23:41] Right. It's the equivalent of the kids scribbling with chalk on the sidewalks.

[00:23:46] I mean, come on. Look, they did murals.

[00:23:49] The Black Lives Matter. Well, some of them, some of the Black Lives Matter

[00:23:53] paintings on the roads, right, were elaborate.

[00:23:57] There were like all sorts of images and stuff like that that were used.

[00:24:00] I'm not talking about the ones like the one up in Asheville where it was just

[00:24:03] the letters just, you know, they took these white letters, which I don't know

[00:24:06] why is it gonna be white letters, but whatever they took the and they painted

[00:24:08] Black Lives Matter just in letters on the road.

[00:24:11] And that was it. Right.

[00:24:13] Some places, and I think Charlotte was one of them, they did they actually did

[00:24:17] like a mural, right, like images and stuff.

[00:24:21] That's fine. I think you can call that a mural.

[00:24:24] I don't think you get to call just stripes on an intersection crosswalk

[00:24:28] a mural. They're just stripes because what is the crosswalk?

[00:24:35] They're stripes. They're just stripes.

[00:24:37] They're already stripes. You just change the color of the stripes.

[00:24:40] The intersection crosswalk is not a mural, right?

[00:24:42] It's not art.

[00:24:44] You painting them different colors doesn't make it art.

[00:24:47] There's still stripes in a crosswalk.

[00:24:50] Well, somebody drove a car and did some hate donuts on it.

[00:24:55] And now they they've put out a bolo for the driver of the car.

[00:25:01] And they are they're looking to charge him with a felony if they find him.

[00:25:04] And they've already done it. They've already they've already slapped somebody else

[00:25:08] with a with a felony for doing something similar.

[00:25:13] Delray Beach, I believe it was nailed him with a felony.

[00:25:17] I don't know. Destruction of property.

[00:25:18] I don't know what the felony was, but they nailed him with a felony.

[00:25:20] Now they're looking for the St. Pete's Pride Pooh.

[00:25:23] Oh, no. St. Petersburg. Yeah. Pride Vandal.

[00:25:29] Yeah. The last guy, Delray Beach, he was doing burnouts.

[00:25:31] He was charged with a felony as well.

[00:25:34] This person, if they catch him, which, by the way, did you hear about all the street

[00:25:38] takeovers that occurred in Charlotte this weekend?

[00:25:40] There was one in No Da.

[00:25:43] And then there was another.

[00:25:44] It's North Davidson areas like the artsy community.

[00:25:48] And then there's there was another one done right at the in front of the NASCAR Hall of Fame.

[00:25:56] So they were doing burnouts and donuts.

[00:25:58] On I think it was like the big checker flag area, right?

[00:26:02] Like that's all crosswalk painted and all that stuff.

[00:26:06] So. Hey, that hate, it seems like that could be, hey,

[00:26:12] you got the mural on the ground there, the NASCAR mural on the ground just saying.

[00:26:18] Might need a bolo.

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[00:27:24] Seth has written in.

[00:27:26] Regarding the hate doughnuts.

[00:27:29] Pete, I have found a solution to the street takeovers.

[00:27:33] Paint pride flags all over the intersections.

[00:27:37] Yes.

[00:27:39] These are the kinds of solutions that can change the world.

[00:27:44] Right, so guys, we're just going to have to paint every single intersection.

[00:27:48] Actually, why stop at just the intersections?

[00:27:52] Right.

[00:27:54] Maybe maybe paint like the last

[00:27:57] or the first hundred feet and last hundred feet at every intersection.

[00:28:01] So you paint the like the part that intersects, but then you got to go out.

[00:28:05] So people don't they don't gun the tires,

[00:28:08] you know, spin them out, burn them out when they're taken off.

[00:28:11] Also, people be approaching and they would start slowing down.

[00:28:16] Rather than slamming on the brakes and creating the.

[00:28:20] The skid mark, you know, I wonder if there's a similar thing,

[00:28:24] could we do a similar thing, will it keep people driving the speed limit?

[00:28:29] Hmm, maybe rainbow flag roads.

[00:28:35] Just not a flag, though, just rainbow stripes.

[00:28:40] On every road, just paint every single road rainbow that would actually probably

[00:28:45] induce some people who are prone to epilepsy, I think that, yeah, seizures,

[00:28:51] not epilepsy, but seizures, you know, with like the lights,

[00:28:53] the strobe effect thing that could induce some bad reactions.

[00:28:57] So never mind.

[00:28:59] There are no bad ideas under the cone of creativity, we just spit all these ideas

[00:29:02] and sometimes they make it, sometimes they don't, you know, so that one didn't make it.

[00:29:06] But I like the painting.

[00:29:09] Of the intersections to stop all the burnouts,

[00:29:11] because then we're going to be looking for fellow felonious hate crimers, right?

[00:29:16] And then we could take their cars, too.

[00:29:19] We take, yeah, bust them for the hate crime,

[00:29:23] for the hate donuts, and then

[00:29:26] slap them with the penalty phase where we take the vehicles.

[00:29:31] And what do we do with the vehicles?

[00:29:35] Give them to LGBTQ plus 2IA organizations.

[00:29:41] No, they'll probably just take them and sell them for auction.

[00:29:46] Yeah, they probably do that.

[00:29:48] City's got to make its money for it.

[00:29:49] Anyway, get this.

[00:29:51] Did you know that there is a competition for rolling cheese?

[00:29:55] Like the cheese wheel, like a big cheese wheel.

[00:29:57] They're not really big, actually, but there's a wheel.

[00:30:00] And you roll it, it's seven pounds and you roll this thing

[00:30:07] down a hill. Oh, yeah.

[00:30:09] Yeah, it's true.

[00:30:10] You can also roll them uphill.

[00:30:12] That's for the younger kids because that's not so dangerous.

[00:30:17] So a North Carolina woman is once again the cheese rolling champion

[00:30:24] of the world.

[00:30:26] On Monday, competitors threw their bodies down a steep,

[00:30:30] muddy hill for one of Britain's most extreme annual events.

[00:30:35] Cheered on by several thousand spectators,

[00:30:37] scores of reckless racers chased a seven pound wheel of double Gloucester cheese.

[00:30:43] Not the single kind.

[00:30:44] It's obviously the double kind.

[00:30:46] I think it has to do with the velocity that the double is able to achieve.

[00:30:51] It has to do with the manifold or whatever.

[00:30:53] But the double Gloucester cheese is a wheel and then they roll it down this

[00:30:57] near vertical incline called Cooper's Hill near the Gloucester town in Southwest England.

[00:31:06] The first racer to finish behind the fast rolling cheese in each race

[00:31:11] gets to keep it. Do you have something?

[00:31:13] Yeah, I was just you asked if we were familiar and either is actually asking you.

[00:31:18] Well, I wanted to put people on to a cool little Netflix series.

[00:31:23] I think it's called like Weird Champions or Unique.

[00:31:25] It's something about champions and one of their episodes focuses on the,

[00:31:30] you know, however you say the town cheese roll.

[00:31:32] Gloucester and Gloucester.

[00:31:33] And it's a huge, huge deal.

[00:31:36] But it's not pronounced that way.

[00:31:38] Gloucester.

[00:31:39] And it's not pronounced that way. It's Gloucester.

[00:31:41] Watching these people run down the hill is crazy.

[00:31:45] Yeah, because it's really steep and people fall.

[00:31:47] Everybody falls. Like, that's the thing.

[00:31:49] You just have to you got to know that you're going to fall.

[00:31:52] The races have been held at Cooper's Hill or maybe it's like Roy Cooper.

[00:31:56] Is it a Cooper? Is it Cooper's Hill?

[00:31:57] Do you say it like that? I don't know.

[00:31:59] It's about 100 miles west of London.

[00:32:01] So now, you know exactly where it is, right?

[00:32:05] They've been doing it since at least 1826 and the sport.

[00:32:11] Is it?

[00:32:13] Is that a sport? I guess it's a sport.

[00:32:15] Yeah, because it's not a game.

[00:32:18] Because you're running, so, OK, it's a sport.

[00:32:20] The sport of cheese rolling is believed to be much older.

[00:32:23] So that makes sense.

[00:32:25] As soon as they invented a cheese wheel,

[00:32:28] I'm pretty sure that somebody made it into a contest.

[00:32:31] So the winner is Abby Lamp or Lampy.

[00:32:35] I'm not sure if she pronounces the E.

[00:32:37] Abby Lamp from Smithfield.

[00:32:39] She is a graduate of NC State University and.

[00:32:44] She is a repeat champion.

[00:32:47] She won last year, too.

[00:32:52] She said everyone was trying to be like, oh, she's a one hit wonder.

[00:32:55] But now it's like what? Oh, yeah.

[00:32:57] Two hit wonder.

[00:33:00] I don't think that's what they call those,

[00:33:02] but this year's Hill was especially slippery and muddy because it had rained

[00:33:06] recently, members get this of a local rugby club.

[00:33:12] They are the catchers in the rye, if you will.

[00:33:15] They stand at the bottom of the hill

[00:33:18] and they catch people as they come tumbling down the hill.

[00:33:23] They catch the competitors that roll

[00:33:25] down the hill with the cheese or behind the cheese.

[00:33:27] Dozens of children and adults also competed in the safer and slower,

[00:33:31] but no less grueling uphill version of the race.

[00:33:36] That is traditionally held on a late May national holiday about 20 miles away.

[00:33:41] There is another

[00:33:44] there's another competition kind of as odd.

[00:33:46] It's in the town of Tetbury.

[00:33:49] That's T.E.T. people, Tetbury.

[00:33:52] And they carry sacks of wool weighing up to 60 pounds over a 240 yard course up

[00:33:59] and down Gumstool Hill.

[00:34:04] It's Britain, man, what do you do?

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